If teachers were given the option to conceal carry, schools would be a lot safer.

[surada]

It's interesting how people always equate "telling the truth" with conservatism.



That has already been done some 90 years ago.

We live in the 21st century now.



There is no conflict between the two.



It never fails that anyone who supports fascism or opposes civil liberties will always invoke some variation of "common sense".



There is still no conflict between the two.

Fascism has always been racist, nationalistic, authoritarian.. look at Hitler, Mussolini, Franco.. Hitler revoked the gun laws in Germany. He knew how to appeal to the populist mob.

 

[surada]

You are your own first responder.
If you don't want that responsibility, that's fine, but then you place your life in the hands of others.

You think every 24 year old school teacher should be responsible for protecting our children so you can have your gun rights? Do you have any children?

 

[M14 Shooter]

You think every 24 year old school teacher should be responsible for protecting our children so you can have your gun rights? Do you have any children?

Like I said:
If -you- don't want that responsibility, that's fine, but then you place your life in the hands of others.
Don't presume to make that choice for me or anyone else.

 

[Woodznutz]

I believe our gun laws and the repeal of Roe vs Wade make us look like a third world nation more so than immigration policies.

I actually agree with your Roe vs Wade statement.

 

[Woodznutz]

I wonder what it will take to get serious gun control laws on the books?
When will the gun enthusiasts start loving children more than their guns?
The 1st or 2nd Amendments do not protect the insanity we are seeing with these school shootings.

Insanity is a legal defense that mitigates responsibility, and should not be used in these cases. Anger and evil are more responsible than mental defect.

 

[Unkotare]

You think every 24 year old school teacher should be responsible for protecting our children .....

Every teacher of any age is responsible for the protection of the students in their care.

 

[Open Bolt]

She's right. It's not fair to put this responsibility on teachers so you can have multiple guns and unlimited ammunition. It's a cop out by all you Kyle Rittenhouse wannabes.

The responsibility is being put on teachers because it will save the lives of their students. It has nothing to do with the fact that we will be keeping our guns and ammo.

You think every 24 year old school teacher should be responsible for protecting our children so you can have your gun rights? Do you have any children?

No. They should be responsible for protecting children so the children will be protected.

It has nothing to do with the fact that we have gun rights.

 

[surada]

The responsibility is being put on teachers because it will save the lives of their students. It has nothing to do with the fact that we will be keeping our guns and ammo.



No. They should be responsible for protecting children so the children will be protected.

It has nothing to do with the fact that we have gun rights.

Do you have a daughter? Is she a teacher? Foisting this responsibility off on teachers is a cop out.

 

[Open Bolt]

Do you have a daughter? Is she a teacher? Foisting this responsibility off on teachers is a cop out.

If you want to let kids keep on getting slaughtered, fine with me. Just don't start whining about it when the next massacre happens.

 

[surada]

If you want to let kids keep on getting slaughtered, fine with me. Just don't start whining about it when the next massacre happens.

You see what you're doing? Abbott makes the same speech for the six mass shootings since he's been governor. The GOP blames mental health, teachers, cops, doors, the Democrats... And, now you lay a guilt trip on teachers. You want them to be responsible for our children's safety.

 

[Open Bolt]

You see what you're doing? Abbott makes the same speech for the six mass shootings since he's been governor. The GOP blames mental health, teachers, cops, doors, the Democrats... And, now you lay a guilt trip on teachers. You want them to be responsible for our children's safety.

If you don't want to save the kids, fine with me. That's between you and the kids.

Just don't come whining if you later regret your choices. I will not be even a little bit sympathetic.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

I wonder what it will take to get serious gun control laws on the books?
When will the gun enthusiasts start loving children more than their guns?
The 1st or 2nd Amendments do not protect the insanity we are seeing with these school shootings.

I have children and i have weapons that can be used to kill people, yet not one of my weapons has taken a life....yet. But when the economy goes to shit, and this country goes full on retarded anarchy, i think my weapons will be more valuable then along with my children who will take arms against those that has caused this great country to go down the shitter, and those that voted for those who made this country that way.....

 

[Woodznutz]

Do you have a daughter? Is she a teacher? Foisting this responsibility off on teachers is a cop out.

Armed teachers would be the last line of defense if all others failed.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Do you have a daughter? Is she a teacher? Foisting this responsibility off on teachers is a cop out.

If -you- don't want that responsibility, that's fine, but then you place your life in the hands of others.
Don't presume to make that choice for me or anyone else.

 

[surada]

If -you- don't want that responsibility, that's fine, but then you place your life in the hands of others.
Don't presume to make that choice for me or anyone else.

Right. You want your guns but you want teachers to protect your children.

 

[Unkotare]

You see what you're doing? Abbott makes the same speech for the six mass shootings since he's been governor. The GOP blames mental health, teachers, cops, doors, the Democrats... And, now you lay a guilt trip on teachers. You want them to be responsible for our children's safety.

We already are.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Right. You want your guns but you want teachers to protect your children.

You choose to not understand the issue.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

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[Jarlaxle]

The idea that classrooms would be safer by having firearms introduced into them is madness to me.

The answer to this part of the problem is SROs. They didn't stop the guy at this one data point, but they do a lot of good.

You mean like the guy in Parkland, who ran away?

I think the most distressing aspect of all of this is that the anti-American left are focused on obtaining the one thing they will never get: an outright ban on guns.

In order to get that, the democrats need more votes than they will ever get. They know that. They know that what they're clamoring for is something which will never be achieved.

This is why, when it comes to matters of guns, gun safety and the 2nd Amendment, they should be ignored. They've got as likely a chance as catching a unicorn that's farting rainbows as they do of getting rid of guns.

Maybe if democrats would start looking at possible solutions which are actually viable we could actually find one. The reality, though, is that they're devoid of ideas, and the facility for critical thought eludes them.

The gun-haters WANT violence. They NEED dead bodies. They CELEBRATE school shootings. It helps their agenda.

Most hospitals and clinics have security guards. Sometimes they are not armed, though.
Why don't we just make it harder for nuts to have access to guns?

Because criminals will always be armed.

NO. I want less guns (ban assault rifles) and more gun control laws (stop allowing the NRA to donate money to politicians).
These steps make more sense than expecting teachers to act like policemen.

You want guns limited to the rich, the well connected, and criminals.

I'm the "Leftist" who voted for Trump twice? That's....amazing.

And yes if you require teachers to arm on top of everything else there will be an exodus. But there already is one so....

Nobody but you has suggested requiring teachers to be armed.

 

[Calypso Jones]

is bodecea and surada the same person? LOLOL