If we do reparations to slave descendants

[task0778]

Will the Indians have to cough up dough?

I think reparations (if passed) will come from the taxpayers, no matter who you are. If you pay taxes, even if you are a black person, you'll be in effect paying another black person. Or maybe reducing somebody's tax burden will depend on race, white people pay more than black people? That's unconstitutional, which means everybody pays, like it or not. Now I suppose if the democrats ever get to the point where they have a democrat in the WH and control of both the House and the Senate with at least 50 votes who will tow the party line on everything, then they might pack the Supreme Court with enough liberals that will make anything they want to do as legal. Of course, at that point we're all fucked.

 

[TNHarley]

Why would you expect Native American tribes to somehow pay more in reparations than anyone else

And people think im joking when i say cultists live in an alternate universe
I never said such a thing, you illiterate moron.

It's a dumb post.

How do you know? You cant fucking read

Then why are you singling out Native American tribes? Like somehow they have to do more than anyone else?

Again, I didnt say that. I didnt even come within a semi trailer of implying it.
If you cant read and/or comprehend, why forum?

Ok, then I guess those tribes would be like everyone else through taxes. I didn't realize this was a question you couldn't answer yourself and assumed there was more to it, guess not.

Im waiting on you to answer. You havent said anything strait forward.
You implied the govt would do it. Which also implies blacks would (unless you think black people dont pay taxes...)
Then you said probably not. Now you are saying the indians would through taxation.
Are you just trolling, or stupid as shit? If you are trolling, all is forgiven

 

[HappyJoy]

Will the Indians have to cough up dough?

I think reparations (if passed) will come from the taxpayers, no matter who you are. If you pay taxes, even if you are a black person, you'll be in effect paying another black person. Or maybe reducing somebody's tax burden will depend on race, white people pay more than black people? That's unconstitutional, which means everybody pays, like it or not. Now I suppose if the democrats ever get to the point where they have a democrat in the WH and control of both the House and the Senate with at least 50 votes who will tow the party line on everything, then they might pack the Supreme Court with enough liberals that will make anything they want to as legal. Of course, at that point we're all fucked.

How would it be unconstitutional?

It would be OK to pay only decedents of former slaves but it would unconstitutional to not collect taxes from them for reparations? I don't think that's sound.

 

[TNHarley]

Will the Indians have to cough up dough?

I think reparations (if passed) will come from the taxpayers, no matter who you are. If you pay taxes, even if you are a black person, you'll be in effect paying another black person. Or maybe reducing somebody's tax burden will depend on race, white people pay more than black people? That's unconstitutional, which means everybody pays, like it or not. Now I suppose if the democrats ever get to the point where they have a democrat in the WH and control of both the House and the Senate with at least 50 votes who will tow the party line on everything, then they might pack the Supreme Court with enough liberals that will make anything they want to do as legal. Of course, at that point we're all fucked.

Im glad you brought up the Constitution. In order to do this, they would need an amendment. They cant hand out money to people like that. There is even a supreme court ruling on that, already.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Probably that damn coyote

Doubt it.

Seems like she tends to just shut down/move inconvenient truth type threads.

Should never let a full blown communist behind the controls. Ever. Getting behind the controls is like the holy grail for those control freak types.

Anyway, I think maybe you were on my follow list right after OL if I recall correctly, and there was a time when I went back and forth adding her posts to my feed when she was going through her transition from progressive to full blown quisling. It's a darned shame about the path she took. She had charisma. But you know what they say about absolute power. It sure do absolutely corrupt. It's a heck of a thing.

If I recall right, when I went to unfollow her posts for the last time, the bot automatically put checks in the tick boxes for everyone and I had to physically go back and untick/do it manually. I think. It's just odd that you're the only one I have to keep refollowing to see what you're posting whenever I pop in here.

 

[HappyJoy]

Why would you expect Native American tribes to somehow pay more in reparations than anyone else

And people think im joking when i say cultists live in an alternate universe
I never said such a thing, you illiterate moron.

It's a dumb post.

How do you know? You cant fucking read

Then why are you singling out Native American tribes? Like somehow they have to do more than anyone else?

Again, I didnt say that. I didnt even come within a semi trailer of implying it.
If you cant read and/or comprehend, why forum?

Ok, then I guess those tribes would be like everyone else through taxes. I didn't realize this was a question you couldn't answer yourself and assumed there was more to it, guess not.

Im waiting on you to answer. You havent said anything strait forward.
You implied the govt would do it. Which also implies blacks would (unless you think black people dont pay taxes...)
Then you said probably not. Now you are saying the indians would through taxation.
Are you just trolling, or stupid as shit? If you are trolling, all is forgiven

I did. If your idiotic OP is simply if reparations were to happen would Native American tribes pay through federal taxes. Yeah, seems kind of obvious they would like most everyone else.

 

[HappyJoy]

Will the Indians have to cough up dough?

I think reparations (if passed) will come from the taxpayers, no matter who you are. If you pay taxes, even if you are a black person, you'll be in effect paying another black person. Or maybe reducing somebody's tax burden will depend on race, white people pay more than black people? That's unconstitutional, which means everybody pays, like it or not. Now I suppose if the democrats ever get to the point where they have a democrat in the WH and control of both the House and the Senate with at least 50 votes who will tow the party line on everything, then they might pack the Supreme Court with enough liberals that will make anything they want to do as legal. Of course, at that point we're all fucked.

Im glad you brought up the Constitution. In order to do this, they would need an amendment. They cant hand out money to people like that. There is even a supreme court ruling on that, already.

Why would you need an amendment? Did we pass one when we paid Japanese Americans?

 

[TNHarley]

Why would you expect Native American tribes to somehow pay more in reparations than anyone else

And people think im joking when i say cultists live in an alternate universe
I never said such a thing, you illiterate moron.

It's a dumb post.

How do you know? You cant fucking read

Then why are you singling out Native American tribes? Like somehow they have to do more than anyone else?

Again, I didnt say that. I didnt even come within a semi trailer of implying it.
If you cant read and/or comprehend, why forum?

Ok, then I guess those tribes would be like everyone else through taxes. I didn't realize this was a question you couldn't answer yourself and assumed there was more to it, guess not.

Im waiting on you to answer. You havent said anything strait forward.
You implied the govt would do it. Which also implies blacks would (unless you think black people dont pay taxes...)
Then you said probably not. Now you are saying the indians would through taxation.
Are you just trolling, or stupid as shit? If you are trolling, all is forgiven

I did. If your idiotic OP is simply if reparations were to happen would Native American tribes pay through federal taxes. Yeah, seems kind of obvious they would like most everyone else.

So blacks would pay their own reparations.. which completely contradicts what you said earlier.
Im going with "stupid as shit" as "just trolling" doesnt seem very fitting.

 

[HappyJoy]

Why would you expect Native American tribes to somehow pay more in reparations than anyone else

And people think im joking when i say cultists live in an alternate universe
I never said such a thing, you illiterate moron.

It's a dumb post.

How do you know? You cant fucking read

Then why are you singling out Native American tribes? Like somehow they have to do more than anyone else?

Again, I didnt say that. I didnt even come within a semi trailer of implying it.
If you cant read and/or comprehend, why forum?

Ok, then I guess those tribes would be like everyone else through taxes. I didn't realize this was a question you couldn't answer yourself and assumed there was more to it, guess not.

Im waiting on you to answer. You havent said anything strait forward.
You implied the govt would do it. Which also implies blacks would (unless you think black people dont pay taxes...)
Then you said probably not. Now you are saying the indians would through taxation.
Are you just trolling, or stupid as shit? If you are trolling, all is forgiven

I did. If your idiotic OP is simply if reparations were to happen would Native American tribes pay through federal taxes. Yeah, seems kind of obvious they would like most everyone else.

So blacks would pay their own reparations.. which completely contradicts what you said earlier.
Im going with "stupid as shit" as "just trolling" doesnt seem very fitting.

I don't know that they would or not. Legally I don't think they'd have to and would depend on tax law, either way it would be a small percentage of what they would get.

 

[Mr Natural]

Will the Indians have to cough up dough?

Nope, just you southern whities.

 

[TNHarley]

Will the Indians have to cough up dough?

I think reparations (if passed) will come from the taxpayers, no matter who you are. If you pay taxes, even if you are a black person, you'll be in effect paying another black person. Or maybe reducing somebody's tax burden will depend on race, white people pay more than black people? That's unconstitutional, which means everybody pays, like it or not. Now I suppose if the democrats ever get to the point where they have a democrat in the WH and control of both the House and the Senate with at least 50 votes who will tow the party line on everything, then they might pack the Supreme Court with enough liberals that will make anything they want to do as legal. Of course, at that point we're all fucked.

Im glad you brought up the Constitution. In order to do this, they would need an amendment. They cant hand out money to people like that. There is even a supreme court ruling on that, already.

Why would you need an amendment? Did we pass one when we paid Japanese Americans?

City of Richmond v. J. A. Croson Co., 488 U.S. 469 (1989)

City of Richmond v. J. A. Croson Co.: The Fourteenth Amendment does not allow a city to require general contractors working for it to subcontract a certain proportion of the work to minority-owned businesses.

supreme.justia.com

The case basically means The govt can only pay off raced based issues if the govt itself was discriminating. Not society.
Blacks werent citizens when they were slaves.
You might could make a case for govt instituted jim crow laws but that would stay local. And you would have to show how the people claiming it were directly affected.

 

[TNHarley]

Why would you expect Native American tribes to somehow pay more in reparations than anyone else

And people think im joking when i say cultists live in an alternate universe
I never said such a thing, you illiterate moron.

It's a dumb post.

How do you know? You cant fucking read

Then why are you singling out Native American tribes? Like somehow they have to do more than anyone else?

Again, I didnt say that. I didnt even come within a semi trailer of implying it.
If you cant read and/or comprehend, why forum?

Ok, then I guess those tribes would be like everyone else through taxes. I didn't realize this was a question you couldn't answer yourself and assumed there was more to it, guess not.

Im waiting on you to answer. You havent said anything strait forward.
You implied the govt would do it. Which also implies blacks would (unless you think black people dont pay taxes...)
Then you said probably not. Now you are saying the indians would through taxation.
Are you just trolling, or stupid as shit? If you are trolling, all is forgiven

I did. If your idiotic OP is simply if reparations were to happen would Native American tribes pay through federal taxes. Yeah, seems kind of obvious they would like most everyone else.

So blacks would pay their own reparations.. which completely contradicts what you said earlier.
Im going with "stupid as shit" as "just trolling" doesnt seem very fitting.

I don't know that they would or not. Legally I don't think they'd have to and would depend on tax law, either way it would be a small percentage of what they would get.

You think the tax code is race based?

 

[TNHarley]

Will the Indians have to cough up dough?

Nope, just you southern whities.

In that case, I guess this has nothing to do with "slavery"
Thanks.

 

[HappyJoy]

Will the Indians have to cough up dough?

I think reparations (if passed) will come from the taxpayers, no matter who you are. If you pay taxes, even if you are a black person, you'll be in effect paying another black person. Or maybe reducing somebody's tax burden will depend on race, white people pay more than black people? That's unconstitutional, which means everybody pays, like it or not. Now I suppose if the democrats ever get to the point where they have a democrat in the WH and control of both the House and the Senate with at least 50 votes who will tow the party line on everything, then they might pack the Supreme Court with enough liberals that will make anything they want to do as legal. Of course, at that point we're all fucked.

Im glad you brought up the Constitution. In order to do this, they would need an amendment. They cant hand out money to people like that. There is even a supreme court ruling on that, already.

Why would you need an amendment? Did we pass one when we paid Japanese Americans?

City of Richmond v. J. A. Croson Co., 488 U.S. 469 (1989)

City of Richmond v. J. A. Croson Co.: The Fourteenth Amendment does not allow a city to require general contractors working for it to subcontract a certain proportion of the work to minority-owned businesses.

supreme.justia.com

The case basically means The govt can only pay off raced based issues if the govt itself was discriminating. Not society.
Blacks werent citizens when they were slaves.
You might could make a case for govt instituted jim crow laws but that would stay local.

Your link has absolutely nothing to do with paying reparations and everything to do with hiring contractors.

My god man, we paid Japanese Americans. Not nearly enough but it's been done.

 

[mudwhistle]

Not specifically, no.

Why

Cuz only white people are guilty.
Blacks owned and traded slaves too....but they aren't guilty.
Only white people are guilty.
It's well-known that Native-American tribes would make slaves of captured women from other tribes.
A black slave owner in SC owned 63 slaves in 1860. William Ellison biography

 

[HappyJoy]

Why would you expect Native American tribes to somehow pay more in reparations than anyone else

And people think im joking when i say cultists live in an alternate universe
I never said such a thing, you illiterate moron.

It's a dumb post.

How do you know? You cant fucking read

Then why are you singling out Native American tribes? Like somehow they have to do more than anyone else?

Again, I didnt say that. I didnt even come within a semi trailer of implying it.
If you cant read and/or comprehend, why forum?

Ok, then I guess those tribes would be like everyone else through taxes. I didn't realize this was a question you couldn't answer yourself and assumed there was more to it, guess not.

Im waiting on you to answer. You havent said anything strait forward.
You implied the govt would do it. Which also implies blacks would (unless you think black people dont pay taxes...)
Then you said probably not. Now you are saying the indians would through taxation.
Are you just trolling, or stupid as shit? If you are trolling, all is forgiven

I did. If your idiotic OP is simply if reparations were to happen would Native American tribes pay through federal taxes. Yeah, seems kind of obvious they would like most everyone else.

So blacks would pay their own reparations.. which completely contradicts what you said earlier.
Im going with "stupid as shit" as "just trolling" doesnt seem very fitting.

I don't know that they would or not. Legally I don't think they'd have to and would depend on tax law, either way it would be a small percentage of what they would get.

You think the tax code is race based?

No and it wouldn't be. It's about decedents of slaves, right?

 

[TNHarley]

Will the Indians have to cough up dough?

I think reparations (if passed) will come from the taxpayers, no matter who you are. If you pay taxes, even if you are a black person, you'll be in effect paying another black person. Or maybe reducing somebody's tax burden will depend on race, white people pay more than black people? That's unconstitutional, which means everybody pays, like it or not. Now I suppose if the democrats ever get to the point where they have a democrat in the WH and control of both the House and the Senate with at least 50 votes who will tow the party line on everything, then they might pack the Supreme Court with enough liberals that will make anything they want to do as legal. Of course, at that point we're all fucked.

Im glad you brought up the Constitution. In order to do this, they would need an amendment. They cant hand out money to people like that. There is even a supreme court ruling on that, already.

Why would you need an amendment? Did we pass one when we paid Japanese Americans?

City of Richmond v. J. A. Croson Co., 488 U.S. 469 (1989)

City of Richmond v. J. A. Croson Co.: The Fourteenth Amendment does not allow a city to require general contractors working for it to subcontract a certain proportion of the work to minority-owned businesses.

supreme.justia.com

The case basically means The govt can only pay off raced based issues if the govt itself was discriminating. Not society.
Blacks werent citizens when they were slaves.
You might could make a case for govt instituted jim crow laws but that would stay local.

Your link has absolutely nothing to do with paying reparations and everything to do with hiring contractors.

My god man, we paid Japanese Americans. Not nearly enough but it's been done.

Thats because the GOVT WAS DISCRIMINATING you illiterate dumbfuck. Goddamn
I guess you dont know how supreme court rulings work either. Not surprising.

 

[TNHarley]

y

Only white people are guilty.

Thats what im gathering

 

[TNHarley]

Why would you expect Native American tribes to somehow pay more in reparations than anyone else

And people think im joking when i say cultists live in an alternate universe
I never said such a thing, you illiterate moron.

It's a dumb post.

How do you know? You cant fucking read

Then why are you singling out Native American tribes? Like somehow they have to do more than anyone else?

Again, I didnt say that. I didnt even come within a semi trailer of implying it.
If you cant read and/or comprehend, why forum?

Ok, then I guess those tribes would be like everyone else through taxes. I didn't realize this was a question you couldn't answer yourself and assumed there was more to it, guess not.

Im waiting on you to answer. You havent said anything strait forward.
You implied the govt would do it. Which also implies blacks would (unless you think black people dont pay taxes...)
Then you said probably not. Now you are saying the indians would through taxation.
Are you just trolling, or stupid as shit? If you are trolling, all is forgiven

I did. If your idiotic OP is simply if reparations were to happen would Native American tribes pay through federal taxes. Yeah, seems kind of obvious they would like most everyone else.

So blacks would pay their own reparations.. which completely contradicts what you said earlier.
Im going with "stupid as shit" as "just trolling" doesnt seem very fitting.

I don't know that they would or not. Legally I don't think they'd have to and would depend on tax law, either way it would be a small percentage of what they would get.

You think the tax code is race based?

No and it wouldn't be. It's about decedents of slaves, right?

You said it would depend on tax law.

 

[HappyJoy]

Will the Indians have to cough up dough?

I think reparations (if passed) will come from the taxpayers, no matter who you are. If you pay taxes, even if you are a black person, you'll be in effect paying another black person. Or maybe reducing somebody's tax burden will depend on race, white people pay more than black people? That's unconstitutional, which means everybody pays, like it or not. Now I suppose if the democrats ever get to the point where they have a democrat in the WH and control of both the House and the Senate with at least 50 votes who will tow the party line on everything, then they might pack the Supreme Court with enough liberals that will make anything they want to do as legal. Of course, at that point we're all fucked.

Im glad you brought up the Constitution. In order to do this, they would need an amendment. They cant hand out money to people like that. There is even a supreme court ruling on that, already.

Why would you need an amendment? Did we pass one when we paid Japanese Americans?

City of Richmond v. J. A. Croson Co., 488 U.S. 469 (1989)

City of Richmond v. J. A. Croson Co.: The Fourteenth Amendment does not allow a city to require general contractors working for it to subcontract a certain proportion of the work to minority-owned businesses.

supreme.justia.com

The case basically means The govt can only pay off raced based issues if the govt itself was discriminating. Not society.
Blacks werent citizens when they were slaves.
You might could make a case for govt instituted jim crow laws but that would stay local.

Your link has absolutely nothing to do with paying reparations and everything to do with hiring contractors.

My god man, we paid Japanese Americans. Not nearly enough but it's been done.

Thats because the GOVT WAS DISCRIMINATING you illiterate dumbfuck. Goddamn
I guess you dont know how supreme court rulings work either. Not surprising.

Reparations isn't discrimination. Idiot.

Hiring people solely based on their skin color is.

You keep ignoring the fact that we've paid reparations in the past. Why?