If you have a job

[g5000]

Here is a graph from the officialist of official sites -- The US goobermint itself....

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

(Seas) Employment-Population Ratio
Labor force status: Employment-population ratio
Type of data: Percent or rate
Age: 16 years and over

Funny how that graph puts the lie to everything scum of the earth dimocrap filth are saying, huh?

As soon as the Lying Cocksucker in Chief took office, the graph heads for the cellar?

All of the sudden, people got old overnight? They just figured out they were retirement age?

Coincidence? Explain that Herr von Hayek.

One more while I'm at it --

Here's a graph that shows that same statistic but over a longer period of time.....

Employment-to-population ratio - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Funny how that one just seemed to fall off a cliff, too......

dimocraps are lying scum

period

Hey dipshit. Back that graph up to 2001. Like I did on the very first page of this topic.


But thanks for your graph. It shows the 14 year long LFPR plunge has been halted for some time. It even shows it starting to go up.

 

[g5000]

Edgetho conveniently started his graph at the 2005 plateau. But pull back further and you get this:

 

[Decus]

Yo jerk off...if the 20 million illegals were not here, who would do the jobs they are doing now? You have one week to come up with the answer.

I'm a lot smarter than you, so I don't need a week, but thanks.

If the 20 million weren't here, a great many of those jobs would be unfilled. An American worker is not going to leave his suburban house, jump into his commuter car, and drive a hundred miles to pick strawberries for a few weeks, and then travel another hundred miles to pick lettuce, and then drive a few hundred miles to pick asparagus.

It's call migrant work for a reason, and every prosperous nation has a large immigrant labor force.

Our problem is that we have not matched the immigrant labor demand with a properly balanced immigrant labor supply.

If a farmer needs 50 laborers and only 20 legal ones are available and willing, then he is going to have no choice but to hire some illegal labor. You idiots who want to punish that farmer for hiring illegals are making him pay the price for a completely dysfunctional government quota program.

Every time there has been an illegal labor crackdown in the farming industry, crops rot on the branch and in the soil. Americans are not rushing to fill the void, even when wages are increased.

Sorry, but it wasn't Mexicans who threw all those people out of work in the 2007-2009 crash. Only a retard would willfully choose to ignore that reality and focus way, way, way, way out of proportion on Mexicans.

Do illegal Mexicans displace some American laborers? Sure, in the construction industry they displace low skilled blacks.

But if you want to focus on the vast majority of JOBS, which is what this topic is about, then you are a bigoted retard if your first complaint is about Mexicans.

You mention "a great many of those jobs would be unfilled". You also seem to focus on the agricultural sector but I can't find mention of 20 million seasonal workers. Can you please help to clarify where these illegals are working?

.

 

[g5000]

The graph I posted shows the plunging LFPR is not due to some "Obama factor" as the retards like to delude themselves into believing.

The year 2000 happens to be the year our country passed the magic 275% GDP public-private debt threshold.

Over the latest five years, real GDP grew a paltry 2.3%/year. From 1790 through 1999, before total private and public debt surged above the deleterious level of 275%, the growth in real GDP was 4% per annum. This observed loss in growth since 1999 is larger than the roughly 25% loss that the econometric studies predicted would occur at debt levels above 275%. As some researchers found, the post-1999 record is consistent with the negative consequences of debt rising disproportionately as debt relative to GDP moves above critical threshold levels.

Stumbling into 2015 with Lacy Hunt Casey Research

 

[AceRothstein]

Is the employment level at its highest level or not? Is the Labor Force Level near its highest or not? And politics doesn't affect whether or not something is true.

You have over 90 million out of the workforce....now do the math. You've swallowed the Kool Aid

And about 197 million in the labor force. The population is bigger...so both numbers are bigger.

What part are you not understanding? This is second grade math.

You're giving me a headache. Do yourself a favor and actually do some research on the topic, listening to and spewing the talking points only gives people a headache

Good god, you are an idiot.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Yo jerk off...if the 20 million illegals were not here, who would do the jobs they are doing now? You have one week to come up with the answer.

I'm a lot smarter than you, so I don't need a week, but thanks.

If the 20 million weren't here, a great many of those jobs would be unfilled. An American worker is not going to leave his suburban house, jump into his commuter car, and drive a hundred miles to pick strawberries for a few weeks, and then travel another hundred miles to pick lettuce, and then drive a few hundred miles to pick asparagus.

It's call migrant work for a reason, and every prosperous nation has a large immigrant labor force.

Our problem is that we have not matched the immigrant labor demand with a properly balanced immigrant labor supply.

If a farmer needs 50 laborers and only 20 legal ones are available and willing, then he is going to have no choice but to hire some illegal labor. You idiots who want to punish that farmer for hiring illegals are making him pay the price for a completely dysfunctional government quota program.

Every time there has been an illegal labor crackdown in the farming industry, crops rot on the branch and in the soil. Americans are not rushing to fill the void, even when wages are increased.

Sorry, but it wasn't Mexicans who threw all those people out of work in the 2007-2009 crash. Only a retard would willfully choose to ignore that reality and focus way, way, way, way out of proportion on Mexicans.

Do illegal Mexicans displace some American laborers? Sure, in the construction industry they displace low skilled blacks.

But if you want to focus on the vast majority of JOBS, which is what this topic is about, then you are a bigoted retard if your first complaint is about Mexicans.

You mention "a great many of those jobs would be unfilled". You also seem to focus on the agricultural sector but I can't find mention of 20 million seasonal workers. Can you please help to clarify where these illegals are working?

.

Hotels, restaurants, construction, slaughter houses, cleaning crews, and any other shit work you can name.

Jobs Americans Won t Do A Detailed Look at Immigrant Employment by Occupation Center for Immigration Studies

And

Top 10 Myths About Immigration Immigration Policy Center

 

[mack20]

One other thing that I haven't seen brought up (shocking, huh?)

March Jobs Report Everything You Need to Know - MoneyBeat - WSJ

The Bureau of Labor Statistics reported that the economy added 126,000 jobs in March, with the unemployment rate steady at 5.5%. This was well below consensus of 248,000. January and February were also revised down, erasing 69,000 jobs.

dimocraps are just freaking stupid

The economy SUCKS. Especially compared to where it should be.

Eight years of pent-up demand, eight years of stagnation, six years of promises and wasted Taxpayer money thrown away by the Lying Cocksucker in Chief, given as paybacks to his bundlers and campaign fund contributors.....

And guess who's getting hurt the worst? the Lying Scumbag's own constituents.

Because they're stupid. And I don't feel the least bit sorry for them.

Hopefully, it will keep their reproductive rate down but that doesn't seem likely

The economy is crap and THIS 5.5% UNEMPLOYMENT RATE AND 126,000 NEW JOBS PROVE IT.

 

[deltex1]

It is amusing that the same people whining about Mexicans taking low skilled jobs have no pity for the low skilled burger flipper who wants a higher minimum wage. "YA SHOUDLA GOTS A EDUCASHIN!"

Positively schizophrenic.

You're the one whining about mexicans..I never mentioned them. Where I am they ain't picking fruit...they are repairing cars, building homes, laying tile and opening restaurants.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

It is amusing that the same people whining about Mexicans taking low skilled jobs have no pity for the low skilled burger flipper who wants a higher minimum wage. "YA SHOUDLA GOTS A EDUCASHIN!"

Positively schizophrenic.

You're the one whining about mexicans..I never mentioned them. Where I am they ain't picking fruit...they are repairing cars, building homes, laying tile and opening restaurants.

Lot of them roofing over our way, that and construction.

 

[pinqy]

And about 197 million in the labor force. The population is bigger...so both numbers are bigger.

What part are you not understanding? This is second grade math.

You're giving me a headache. Do yourself a favor and actually do some research on the topic, listening to and spewing the talking points only gives people a headache

Ummmm, I worked professionally with these numbers for over a decade. I assure you I know far more about how they are constructed and what they mean than you ever will.

But go ahead, try an actual argument.....The OP is claiming that the LEVEL of not in the labor force is bad and that it is significant that it is at an "all time high." The Employment level is also at an all time high.

So....is the level important or not?

Degree in economics I know BS when I see it, you're full of it

And I have a degree in Economics as well. But you're not making a point or argument. I have no idea what you are objecting to or what you are claiming.

The number of people Not in the Labor Force is at an all time high. That is meaningless. The number of people employed is also at an all time high. That is also meaningless.


The population is growing...tossing around levles as if they have inherent meaning is ridiculous.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

What part are you not understanding? This is second grade math.

You're giving me a headache. Do yourself a favor and actually do some research on the topic, listening to and spewing the talking points only gives people a headache

Ummmm, I worked professionally with these numbers for over a decade. I assure you I know far more about how they are constructed and what they mean than you ever will.

But go ahead, try an actual argument.....The OP is claiming that the LEVEL of not in the labor force is bad and that it is significant that it is at an "all time high." The Employment level is also at an all time high.

So....is the level important or not?

Degree in economics I know BS when I see it, you're full of it

And I have a degree in Economics as well. But you're not making a point or argument. I have no idea what you are objecting to or what you are claiming.

The number of people Not in the Labor Force is at an all time high. That is meaningless. The number of people employed is also at an all time high. That is also meaningless.


The population is growing...tossing around levles as if they have inherent meaning is ridiculous.

Will you please stop responding to me? I'm serious, if you can't figure out you're being sold a bill of goods by this criminal regime there is no hope for you

 

[deltex1]

What part are you not understanding? This is second grade math.

You're giving me a headache. Do yourself a favor and actually do some research on the topic, listening to and spewing the talking points only gives people a headache

Ummmm, I worked professionally with these numbers for over a decade. I assure you I know far more about how they are constructed and what they mean than you ever will.

But go ahead, try an actual argument.....The OP is claiming that the LEVEL of not in the labor force is bad and that it is significant that it is at an "all time high." The Employment level is also at an all time high.

So....is the level important or not?

Degree in economics I know BS when I see it, you're full of it

And I have a degree in Economics as well. But you're not making a point or argument. I have no idea what you are objecting to or what you are claiming.

The number of people Not in the Labor Force is at an all time high. That is meaningless. The number of people employed is also at an all time high. That is also meaningless.


The population is growing...tossing around levles as if they have inherent meaning is ridiculous.

So Obabble's claims are ridiculous. Thanks for that.

 

[pinqy]

Here is a graph from the officialist of official sites -- The US goobermint itself....

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

(Seas) Employment-Population Ratio
Labor force status: Employment-population ratio
Type of data: Percent or rate
Age: 16 years and over

Funny how that graph puts the lie to everything scum of the earth dimocrap filth are saying, huh?

As soon as the Lying Cocksucker in Chief took office, the graph heads for the cellar?

All of the sudden, people got old overnight? They just figured out they were retirement age?

Coincidence? Explain that Herr von Hayek.

One more while I'm at it --

Here's a graph that shows that same statistic but over a longer period of time.....

Employment-to-population ratio - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Funny how that one just seemed to fall off a cliff, too......

dimocraps are lying scum

period

Let's go back further:

Does your point still hold true?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

What part are you not understanding? This is second grade math.

You're giving me a headache. Do yourself a favor and actually do some research on the topic, listening to and spewing the talking points only gives people a headache

Ummmm, I worked professionally with these numbers for over a decade. I assure you I know far more about how they are constructed and what they mean than you ever will.

But go ahead, try an actual argument.....The OP is claiming that the LEVEL of not in the labor force is bad and that it is significant that it is at an "all time high." The Employment level is also at an all time high.

So....is the level important or not?

Degree in economics I know BS when I see it, you're full of it

And I have a degree in Economics as well. But you're not making a point or argument. I have no idea what you are objecting to or what you are claiming.

The number of people Not in the Labor Force is at an all time high. That is meaningless. The number of people employed is also at an all time high. That is also meaningless.


The population is growing...tossing around levles as if they have inherent meaning is ridiculous.

So Obabble's claims are ridiculous. Thanks for that.

EVERY thing about Obabble is ridiculous then to top it all off with his dumb downed supporters parrot his BS

 

[pinqy]

What part are you not understanding? This is second grade math.

You're giving me a headache. Do yourself a favor and actually do some research on the topic, listening to and spewing the talking points only gives people a headache

Ummmm, I worked professionally with these numbers for over a decade. I assure you I know far more about how they are constructed and what they mean than you ever will.

But go ahead, try an actual argument.....The OP is claiming that the LEVEL of not in the labor force is bad and that it is significant that it is at an "all time high." The Employment level is also at an all time high.

So....is the level important or not?

Degree in economics I know BS when I see it, you're full of it

And I have a degree in Economics as well. But you're not making a point or argument. I have no idea what you are objecting to or what you are claiming.

The number of people Not in the Labor Force is at an all time high. That is meaningless. The number of people employed is also at an all time high. That is also meaningless.


The population is growing...tossing around levles as if they have inherent meaning is ridiculous.

Will you please stop responding to me? I'm serious, if you can't figure out you're being sold a bill of goods by this criminal regime there is no hope for you

hahahahaha....you're the one whose been responding to me and you haven't actually had anything to say...just insults and negations. But at least you made me laugh.

 

[kaz]

If someone hasn't done anything at all in 4 weeks to get a job...not one application, not sending out one resume, not even asking a single friend if they know of any jobs, does that person really want a job?

Very possibly, yes. You know nothing about unemployment

 

[SassyIrishLass]

You're giving me a headache. Do yourself a favor and actually do some research on the topic, listening to and spewing the talking points only gives people a headache

Ummmm, I worked professionally with these numbers for over a decade. I assure you I know far more about how they are constructed and what they mean than you ever will.

But go ahead, try an actual argument.....The OP is claiming that the LEVEL of not in the labor force is bad and that it is significant that it is at an "all time high." The Employment level is also at an all time high.

So....is the level important or not?

Degree in economics I know BS when I see it, you're full of it

And I have a degree in Economics as well. But you're not making a point or argument. I have no idea what you are objecting to or what you are claiming.

The number of people Not in the Labor Force is at an all time high. That is meaningless. The number of people employed is also at an all time high. That is also meaningless.


The population is growing...tossing around levles as if they have inherent meaning is ridiculous.

Will you please stop responding to me? I'm serious, if you can't figure out you're being sold a bill of goods by this criminal regime there is no hope for you

hahahahaha....you're the one whose been responding to me and you haven't actually had anything to say...just insults and negations. But at least you made me laugh.

Well just laugh your little keester right into ignore, you poor deluded Obamabot. Good grief you would think for someone that "claims" to have an economic degree could actually see through economic BS being spoon fed to them

 

[deltex1]

I have a degree in economics also.....how come none of us are working? Arf arf....

 

[pinqy]

If someone hasn't done anything at all in 4 weeks to get a job...not one application, not sending out one resume, not even asking a single friend if they know of any jobs, does that person really want a job?

Very possibly, yes. You know nothing about unemployment

It is possible, of course. But is it relevant when measuring economic ACTIVITY for that month? A person who is not trying to work will not get a job, no matter how much he wants one. Want or not want is irrelevant to the actual state of the job market.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

I have a degree in economics also.....how come none of us are working?

You do?

 

[Decus]

The graph I posted shows the plunging LFPR is not due to some "Obama factor" as the retards like to delude themselves into believing.

The year 2000 happens to be the year our country passed the magic 275% GDP public-private debt threshold.

Over the latest five years, real GDP grew a paltry 2.3%/year. From 1790 through 1999, before total private and public debt surged above the deleterious level of 275%, the growth in real GDP was 4% per annum. This observed loss in growth since 1999 is larger than the roughly 25% loss that the econometric studies predicted would occur at debt levels above 275%. As some researchers found, the post-1999 record is consistent with the negative consequences of debt rising disproportionately as debt relative to GDP moves above critical threshold levels.

Stumbling into 2015 with Lacy Hunt Casey Research

So wha

Yo jerk off...if the 20 million illegals were not here, who would do the jobs they are doing now? You have one week to come up with the answer.

I'm a lot smarter than you, so I don't need a week, but thanks.

If the 20 million weren't here, a great many of those jobs would be unfilled. An American worker is not going to leave his suburban house, jump into his commuter car, and drive a hundred miles to pick strawberries for a few weeks, and then travel another hundred miles to pick lettuce, and then drive a few hundred miles to pick asparagus.

It's call migrant work for a reason, and every prosperous nation has a large immigrant labor force.

Our problem is that we have not matched the immigrant labor demand with a properly balanced immigrant labor supply.

If a farmer needs 50 laborers and only 20 legal ones are available and willing, then he is going to have no choice but to hire some illegal labor. You idiots who want to punish that farmer for hiring illegals are making him pay the price for a completely dysfunctional government quota program.

Every time there has been an illegal labor crackdown in the farming industry, crops rot on the branch and in the soil. Americans are not rushing to fill the void, even when wages are increased.

Sorry, but it wasn't Mexicans who threw all those people out of work in the 2007-2009 crash. Only a retard would willfully choose to ignore that reality and focus way, way, way, way out of proportion on Mexicans.

Do illegal Mexicans displace some American laborers? Sure, in the construction industry they displace low skilled blacks.

But if you want to focus on the vast majority of JOBS, which is what this topic is about, then you are a bigoted retard if your first complaint is about Mexicans.

You mention "a great many of those jobs would be unfilled". You also seem to focus on the agricultural sector but I can't find mention of 20 million seasonal workers. Can you please help to clarify where these illegals are working?

.

Hey G5000 where is your data on where these illegals are working? 20 million are not seasonal agricultural workers. Please provide the breakdown as to the numbers in different job sectors. Your expert opinion is much appreciated.

.