If you think arming teachers is a solution to school shootings then you are either dumb or insane

[Ray From Cleveland]

It happens all the time, dumbshit. Furthermore, we're talking about a situation where we know who the perp is because he's shooting people.

Teachers pull guns on students for no reason? No we're talking about a 6 foot teenager disarming a old teacher and shooting her because she has a gun you idiot.

So what about a 6'3" wrestling coach or a 6' gym teacher?

What about them? Does being 6 ft keep you from being brained by a barbell?

Just pointing out your phony scenario. A kid is not going to disarm a full grown physically built man, and that's who would likely be armed. A sixty four year old lady is not about to accept being armed to defend a school full of kids.

Bullshit. I've seen full grown male teachers get their asses knocked out by teenagers. Where do you think I got the barbell example?

Well that didn't happen in my days in school because a teacher had the ability to kick a kids ass. No news coverage, no lawsuits, and the parents stood behind a teachers decision.

So it's not not a matter of a teacher not being able to defend himself, it's the same liberalism that creates most of our problems.

 

[Faun]

So, what you're saying is, teachers are too dumb to be trained?

On the job, I wear a level III retention holster which will prevent most attempts at a gun grab. However, if I'm incapacitated from behind, it will not prevent the assailant from taking the gun from my unconscious form.

Soldiers, on the other hand, wear little or not retention on their primary firearm.

Good lord dude. Even if every armed teacher got adequate training (which wouldn’t happen), it doesn’t change the fact that they are still teachers. Cops and soldiers’ entire mindset is focused on being vigilant to possible threats. It’s not like a teacher can effectively do their jobs if they are constantly on alert for the very unlikely possibility of someone shooting up their school.

And I don’t care how well trained someone is, a 60+ year old 5 foot female teacher is not stopping a 6+ foot male teenager from taking her firearm. She’ll just be the first one he shoots. There’s a reason the vast majority of teachers are against guns in schools.

Sure she will stop him, when she pulls a bead on him and then pulls the trigger.

You just made my point. Your idea of putting guns in classrooms already resulted in a student getting shot.

Why does the gun have to be on her person? Why not have them in a secure location in the classroom?

I would love to be able to keep an AR-15 in my classroom for just such emergencies.

More likely, some complacent teachers might keep theirs in an unlocked desk drawer.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

How do kids know where there parents guns are?

Uhhhh, because they live in the same home and had plenty of time to search for them when their parents weren't around?????

Uhhhh so you think being in the same class with a smaller area to search wont guarantee they find the weapon faster?

More than likely a gun would be secured either in a locked compartment or on the teachers person.

What does a potential shooter fear most, a teacher who might be armed or a teacher he knows isn't?

A locked compartment? So if its in a locked compartment how does the teacher get it when the gunman comes? Do you think he is going to give her permission to go get the weapon? Do you think the kids wont figure out how to get into the locked compartment?

What an idiot. If there's one in every classroom, then a number of teachers will get to these guns. In the FL case, the gunman was in the hallway. Any teacher could have easily gotten to a gun locked in a case and then blown him away.

More than likely is that if it was known teachers were armed in that school, this kid would have chosen another target to vent his anger.

 

[Asclepias]

I could also seeing some teacher freaking out and shooting a teenager because they were afraid

How do kids know where there parents guns are?

Uhhhh, because they live in the same home and had plenty of time to search for them when their parents weren't around?????

Uhhhh so you think being in the same class with a smaller area to search wont guarantee they find the weapon faster?

More than likely a gun would be secured either in a locked compartment or on the teachers person.

What does a potential shooter fear most, a teacher who might be armed or a teacher he knows isn't?

A locked compartment? So if its in a locked compartment how does the teacher get it when the gunman comes? Do you think he is going to give her permission to go get the weapon? Do you think the kids wont figure out how to get into the locked compartment?

What an idiot. If there's one in every classroom, then a number of teachers will get to these guns. In the FL case, the gunman was in the hallway. Any teacher could have easily gotten to a gun locked in a case and then blown him away.

Thats where you again show your idiocy. If the teacher can get to the guns so can the kids.

 

[Asclepias]

Uhhhh, because they live in the same home and had plenty of time to search for them when their parents weren't around?????

Uhhhh so you think being in the same class with a smaller area to search wont guarantee they find the weapon faster?

More than likely a gun would be secured either in a locked compartment or on the teachers person.

What does a potential shooter fear most, a teacher who might be armed or a teacher he knows isn't?

A locked compartment? So if its in a locked compartment how does the teacher get it when the gunman comes? Do you think he is going to give her permission to go get the weapon? Do you think the kids wont figure out how to get into the locked compartment?

What an idiot. If there's one in every classroom, then a number of teachers will get to these guns. In the FL case, the gunman was in the hallway. Any teacher could have easily gotten to a gun locked in a case and then blown him away.

More than likely is that if it was known teachers were armed in that school, this kid would have chosen another target to vent his anger.

Who told you that? More likely that if the kid knew the teachers were armed he would make sure he plugged every teacher he saw.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Good lord dude. Even if every armed teacher got adequate training (which wouldn’t happen), it doesn’t change the fact that they are still teachers. Cops and soldiers’ entire mindset is focused on being vigilant to possible threats. It’s not like a teacher can effectively do their jobs if they are constantly on alert for the very unlikely possibility of someone shooting up their school.

And I don’t care how well trained someone is, a 60+ year old 5 foot female teacher is not stopping a 6+ foot male teenager from taking her firearm. She’ll just be the first one he shoots. There’s a reason the vast majority of teachers are against guns in schools.

Really? Look at faun the dumbshit. Here are three of HUNDREDS of similar cases.

‘I tried to kill him’: Pistol-packing granny faces down armed intruder
‘I tried to kill him’: Pistol-packing granny faces down armed intruder

Elderly Homeowner Shoots Home Invader in Self Defense

Would-be intruder killed by elderly man identified

Grandmother who killed man in pet spa acted in self-defense, DA says
Grandmother who killed man in pet spa acted in self-defense, DA says

Look who’s gumming at my ankles again ^^^



Idiot.... how the fuck do you compare someone breaking into a house, where the homeowner knows it’s an intruder; which a teacher in the same room with a student with no expectation of an attack??

There is a serious malfunction with your brain.

You think this teacher had the same time to react as those women in their homes?



^^^ that teacher would be dead if he had a gun on him. Why do you think most teachers don’t want guns on campus?

No, I think the student would be dead.

Your brain is dead.

That teacher got his ass kicked. At what what point in that beat down does your non-functioning brain inform you that teacher would have had the opportunity to draw a firearm?

Shit, that teacher couldn’t even hold onto the papers in his hand; and you’re so fucking rightarded you think he could have held onto a gun? And how many other students does he accidentally shoot as he fell over that desk??

You really are the dumbest poster here and will clearly say anything, no matter how stupid, to prop up your brain-dead conservatism.

You really are one clueless POS!

There was nothing to keep that teacher from pulling his gun after he was on the floor and ventilating the young man attempting to kill him.

 

[Asclepias]

Teachers pull guns on students for no reason? No we're talking about a 6 foot teenager disarming a old teacher and shooting her because she has a gun you idiot.

So what about a 6'3" wrestling coach or a 6' gym teacher?

What about them? Does being 6 ft keep you from being brained by a barbell?

Just pointing out your phony scenario. A kid is not going to disarm a full grown physically built man, and that's who would likely be armed. A sixty four year old lady is not about to accept being armed to defend a school full of kids.

Bullshit. I've seen full grown male teachers get their asses knocked out by teenagers. Where do you think I got the barbell example?

Well that didn't happen in my days in school because a teacher had the ability to kick a kids ass. No news coverage, no lawsuits, and the parents stood behind a teachers decision.

So it's not not a matter of a teacher not being able to defend himself, it's the same liberalism that creates most of our problems.

Its no longer your day. That was ancient history. Thats like saying if a cow had nuts it would be a bull. Well they dont have nuts.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

And I don’t care how well trained someone is, a 60+ year old 5 foot female teacher is not stopping a 6+ foot male teenager from taking her firearm. She’ll just be the first one he shoots. There’s a reason the vast majority of teachers are against guns in schools.

Sure she will stop him, when she pulls a bead on him and then pulls the trigger.

You just made my point. Your idea of putting guns in classrooms already resulted in a student getting shot.

Why does the gun have to be on her person? Why not have them in a secure location in the classroom?

I would love to be able to keep an AR-15 in my classroom for just such emergencies.

True. They could have AR-15 in locked cases in every classroom, and a few select and trained teachers would have a key.

You really are the dumbest poster on this forum.

You are way too humble! You are obviously the biggest dumb ass on the Internet!

Where do naval ships keep their weapons? We had several locations where our small arms were kept with multiple persons with access.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Uhhhh so you think being in the same class with a smaller area to search wont guarantee they find the weapon faster?

More than likely a gun would be secured either in a locked compartment or on the teachers person.

What does a potential shooter fear most, a teacher who might be armed or a teacher he knows isn't?

A locked compartment? So if its in a locked compartment how does the teacher get it when the gunman comes? Do you think he is going to give her permission to go get the weapon? Do you think the kids wont figure out how to get into the locked compartment?

What an idiot. If there's one in every classroom, then a number of teachers will get to these guns. In the FL case, the gunman was in the hallway. Any teacher could have easily gotten to a gun locked in a case and then blown him away.

More than likely is that if it was known teachers were armed in that school, this kid would have chosen another target to vent his anger.

Who told you that? More likely that if the kid knew the teachers were armed he would make sure he plugged every teacher he saw.

Oh, so you think this mental midget would not have considered getting killed if he made the same plans? Get real.

The fact is this kid knew nobody would be able to stop him. He planed this tragedy for weeks and months. He even planned an escape after the shooting.

What you fail to realize is that all these mass shooters are really cowards. Most of them kill themselves after a mass murder because they don't have the balls to to to prison, so they make sure they kill themselves to avoid it. They avoid the possibility of getting injured by an armed citizen or guard.

 

[Reasonable]

I worked in the education field for 30 years. If they took a poll how many teachers wanted guns in their classroom I bet the average would be 98% against.
That nut case judge on Fox proposed this insane idea as have many on the right.

 

[bripat9643]

Good lord dude. Even if every armed teacher got adequate training (which wouldn’t happen), it doesn’t change the fact that they are still teachers. Cops and soldiers’ entire mindset is focused on being vigilant to possible threats. It’s not like a teacher can effectively do their jobs if they are constantly on alert for the very unlikely possibility of someone shooting up their school.

And I don’t care how well trained someone is, a 60+ year old 5 foot female teacher is not stopping a 6+ foot male teenager from taking her firearm. She’ll just be the first one he shoots. There’s a reason the vast majority of teachers are against guns in schools.

Sure she will stop him, when she pulls a bead on him and then pulls the trigger.

You just made my point. Your idea of putting guns in classrooms already resulted in a student getting shot.

Why does the gun have to be on her person? Why not have them in a secure location in the classroom?

I would love to be able to keep an AR-15 in my classroom for just such emergencies.

More likely, some complacent teachers might keep theirs in an unlocked desk drawer.

What you're saying is that public school teachers are really really stupid.

 

[Asclepias]

More than likely a gun would be secured either in a locked compartment or on the teachers person.

What does a potential shooter fear most, a teacher who might be armed or a teacher he knows isn't?

A locked compartment? So if its in a locked compartment how does the teacher get it when the gunman comes? Do you think he is going to give her permission to go get the weapon? Do you think the kids wont figure out how to get into the locked compartment?

What an idiot. If there's one in every classroom, then a number of teachers will get to these guns. In the FL case, the gunman was in the hallway. Any teacher could have easily gotten to a gun locked in a case and then blown him away.

More than likely is that if it was known teachers were armed in that school, this kid would have chosen another target to vent his anger.

Who told you that? More likely that if the kid knew the teachers were armed he would make sure he plugged every teacher he saw.

Oh, so you think this mental midget would not have considered getting killed if he made the same plans? Get real.

The fact is this kid knew nobody would be able to stop him. He planed this tragedy for weeks and months. He even planned an escape after the shooting.

What you fail to realize is that all these mass shooters are really cowards. Most of them kill themselves after a mass murder because they don't have the balls to to to prison, so they make sure they kill themselves to avoid it. They avoid the possibility of getting injured by an armed citizen or guard.

If only I could trust that. The problem is that I dont. I know a lot of them leave a manifesto in case they get killed so they will become famous.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Good lord dude. Even if every armed teacher got adequate training (which wouldn’t happen), it doesn’t change the fact that they are still teachers. Cops and soldiers’ entire mindset is focused on being vigilant to possible threats. It’s not like a teacher can effectively do their jobs if they are constantly on alert for the very unlikely possibility of someone shooting up their school.

And I don’t care how well trained someone is, a 60+ year old 5 foot female teacher is not stopping a 6+ foot male teenager from taking her firearm. She’ll just be the first one he shoots. There’s a reason the vast majority of teachers are against guns in schools.

Sure she will stop him, when she pulls a bead on him and then pulls the trigger.

You just made my point. Your idea of putting guns in classrooms already resulted in a student getting shot.

Why does the gun have to be on her person? Why not have them in a secure location in the classroom?

I would love to be able to keep an AR-15 in my classroom for just such emergencies.

More likely, some complacent teachers might keep theirs in an unlocked desk drawer.

No, a dumbass like you might. Teachers are trained professionals.

Of course I realize that you are trained professional also, but your being a prostitute is a little different.

 

[bripat9643]

Sure she will stop him, when she pulls a bead on him and then pulls the trigger.

You just made my point. Your idea of putting guns in classrooms already resulted in a student getting shot.

Why does the gun have to be on her person? Why not have them in a secure location in the classroom?

I would love to be able to keep an AR-15 in my classroom for just such emergencies.

More likely, some complacent teachers might keep theirs in an unlocked desk drawer.

What you're saying is that public school teachers are really really stupid.

The general consensus is that you are really really stupid. Not the teachers.

You are the one who just implied that teachers are stupid, dumbass.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So what about a 6'3" wrestling coach or a 6' gym teacher?

What about them? Does being 6 ft keep you from being brained by a barbell?

Just pointing out your phony scenario. A kid is not going to disarm a full grown physically built man, and that's who would likely be armed. A sixty four year old lady is not about to accept being armed to defend a school full of kids.

Bullshit. I've seen full grown male teachers get their asses knocked out by teenagers. Where do you think I got the barbell example?

Well that didn't happen in my days in school because a teacher had the ability to kick a kids ass. No news coverage, no lawsuits, and the parents stood behind a teachers decision.

So it's not not a matter of a teacher not being able to defend himself, it's the same liberalism that creates most of our problems.

Its no longer your day. That was ancient history. Thats like saying if a cow had nuts it would be a bull. Well they dont have nuts.

Then maybe the solution is to make it back like my day. Kids used to be scared of teachers. Very few if any ever challenged them. In my day, what those teachers did to unruly kids would not only be in the local news, but a national story.

When you empower children, don't be too surprised when they exercise that power we gave them.

 

[Reasonable]

It’s not like a teacher can effectively do their jobs if they are constantly on alert for the very unlikely possibility of someone shooting up their school.

You don't have to be exceptionally vigilant to know someone is shooting up your school. It's pretty noisy.

One of the jobs that teachers must do is be responsible for the safety of their charges. Do you believe teachers are doing their job very effectively now? Wouldn't it be great if they had the tools to do that job?

So you consider a teacher having a gun in the classroom a “ tool” for her to use.
You’re out of your fucking mind.
The problems with that scenario are endless.

 

[Reasonable]

Well gee obviously those people are exceptions because they are trained on using and securing their weapons

So, what you're saying is, teachers are too dumb to be trained?

On the job, I wear a level III retention holster which will prevent most attempts at a gun grab. However, if I'm incapacitated from behind, it will not prevent the assailant from taking the gun from my unconscious form.

Soldiers, on the other hand, wear little or not retention on their primary firearm.

Good lord dude. Even if every armed teacher got adequate training (which wouldn’t happen), it doesn’t change the fact that they are still teachers. Cops and soldiers’ entire mindset is focused on being vigilant to possible threats. It’s not like a teacher can effectively do their jobs if they are constantly on alert for the very unlikely possibility of someone shooting up their school.

So a bullet from a teacher isn’t as useful as a bullet from a police officer?

I think I’d rather have a teacher who is there shoot the shooter than wait for a police officer who isn’t there to arrive and shoot him

You are very consistent. You’re always wrong about everything. Arming teachers would create more problems than it would solve.

 

[fncceo]

So you consider a teacher having a gun in the classroom a “ tool” for her to use.

I consider a lot of things, and persons, tools.

Also, teachers come in both genders ... they're not all 'she'.

 

[Reasonable]

The obvious solution is, if at all possible, don't send your children into the Government School nightmare. It's only gonna get worse. American parents really should seek education alternatives. That's the best solution.

Government schools?
Lol
The schools are run by community standards you nincompoop.
You’re as dumb as Betsy DeVos and that’s saying something.

 

[jon_berzerk]

What about them? Does being 6 ft keep you from being brained by a barbell?

Just pointing out your phony scenario. A kid is not going to disarm a full grown physically built man, and that's who would likely be armed. A sixty four year old lady is not about to accept being armed to defend a school full of kids.

Bullshit. I've seen full grown male teachers get their asses knocked out by teenagers. Where do you think I got the barbell example?

Well that didn't happen in my days in school because a teacher had the ability to kick a kids ass. No news coverage, no lawsuits, and the parents stood behind a teachers decision.

So it's not not a matter of a teacher not being able to defend himself, it's the same liberalism that creates most of our problems.

Its no longer your day. That was ancient history. Thats like saying if a cow had nuts it would be a bull. Well they dont have nuts.

Then maybe the solution is to make it back like my day. Kids used to be scared of teachers. Very few if any ever challenged them. In my day, what those teachers did to unruly kids would not only be in the local news, but a national story.

When you empower children, don't be too surprised when they exercise that power we gave them.

indeed everyone has seen the Children of the Corn