If you think arming teachers is a solution to school shootings then you are either dumb or insane

[Reasonable]

Your point is silly.

Liberals are "peace through weakness" advocates....

History shows where that led in the past....

Conservatives are not part of the problem. They ARE the problem.
They are so indebted to the NRA for giving them millions that they will sit by idly and watch children being gunned down in their schools rather than forsaking the NRA money.

 

[bripat9643]

Sure she will stop him, when she pulls a bead on him and then pulls the trigger.

You just made my point. Your idea of putting guns in classrooms already resulted in a student getting shot.

Seriously dude? I see the sign on the left I say what ever like I seen the signs in Chicago of a nuclear free zone.






But once again if I seen the sign on the right it would make me think.....


And say to myself they are not fucking around..




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Seriously.

I grew up in the hood. The one place I knew I didnt have to worry about getting shot was at school.

What year? What area?



I never had to worry about getting shot either...in the burbs or when I was like four years old going to the store by myself in Chicago.. I will always remember that...






I am toddling down the street with a dollar in my hand and all the neighbors watching me ...I got to the corner store and this nice guy hands me bread and I walk back.

Oakland CA in the 90's....

My main concern was getting to and from school without getting shot by a cop or a gang banger. Once at school I could relax a little about the gang bangers because they respected the schools. I still had to worry about the cops though.

Is that why they have metel detectors in schools?

Did you mean metal? That had metal detectors to make sure kids didnt bring knives and guns into school.

Right, so that would pretty much rule out any threat from gang bangers, wouldn't it?

 

[Faun]

Well gee obviously those people are exceptions because they are trained on using and securing their weapons

So, what you're saying is, teachers are too dumb to be trained?

On the job, I wear a level III retention holster which will prevent most attempts at a gun grab. However, if I'm incapacitated from behind, it will not prevent the assailant from taking the gun from my unconscious form.

Soldiers, on the other hand, wear little or not retention on their primary firearm.

Good lord dude. Even if every armed teacher got adequate training (which wouldn’t happen), it doesn’t change the fact that they are still teachers. Cops and soldiers’ entire mindset is focused on being vigilant to possible threats. It’s not like a teacher can effectively do their jobs if they are constantly on alert for the very unlikely possibility of someone shooting up their school.

And I don’t care how well trained someone is, a 60+ year old 5 foot female teacher is not stopping a 6+ foot male teenager from taking her firearm. She’ll just be the first one he shoots. There’s a reason the vast majority of teachers are against guns in schools.

Really? Look at faun the dumbshit. Here are three of HUNDREDS of similar cases.

‘I tried to kill him’: Pistol-packing granny faces down armed intruder
‘I tried to kill him’: Pistol-packing granny faces down armed intruder

Elderly Homeowner Shoots Home Invader in Self Defense

Would-be intruder killed by elderly man identified

Grandmother who killed man in pet spa acted in self-defense, DA says
Grandmother who killed man in pet spa acted in self-defense, DA says

Look who’s gumming at my ankles again ^^^



Idiot.... how the fuck do you compare someone breaking into a house, where the homeowner knows it’s an intruder; which a teacher in the same room with a student with no expectation of an attack??

There is a serious malfunction with your brain.

You think this teacher had the same time to react as those women in their homes?



^^^ that teacher would be dead if he had a gun on him. Why do you think most teachers don’t want guns on campus?

 

[Reasonable]

Great, now 15 year old Jimmy the psychopath and others like them who are too young to buy guns can get one for free by knocking out their teacher from behind.

This idea is so dumb that it blows my mind grown adults came up with it.

More guns is always the answer ( for the NRA)

Your only answer is to get rid of guns.. to me they are just a tool.

You’re a liar and a fraud.
No citizen needs a military style assault weapon. Ban that gun from citizens, not ban all guns cocksucker.

 

[Asclepias]

And I don’t care how well trained someone is, a 60+ year old 5 foot female teacher is not stopping a 6+ foot male teenager from taking her firearm. She’ll just be the first one he shoots. There’s a reason the vast majority of teachers are against guns in schools.

Sure she will stop him, when she pulls a bead on him and then pulls the trigger.

You just made my point. Your idea of putting guns in classrooms already resulted in a student getting shot.

The one on the left. Wherever there are guns accidents are sure to happen.

Seriously dude? I see the sign on the left I say what ever like I seen the signs in Chicago of a nuclear free zone.






But once again if I seen the sign on the right it would make me think.....


And say to myself they are not fucking around..




View attachment 177296

Seriously.

I grew up in the hood. The one place I knew I didnt have to worry about getting shot was at school.

What year? What area?



I never had to worry about getting shot either...in the burbs or when I was like four years old going to the store by myself in Chicago.. I will always remember that...






I am toddling down the street with a dollar in my hand and all the neighbors watching me ...I got to the corner store and this nice guy hands me bread and I walk back.

Oakland CA in the 90's....

My main concern was getting to and from school without getting shot by a cop or a gang banger. Once at school I could relax a little about the gang bangers because they respected the schools. I still had to worry about the cops though.

I guess I am 25 years older then you, my son's were born in 1983 my daughter 1996.


So it was that bad? Chicago was never as bad as people like to make it seem.

Oakland was pretty bad there for awhile. The cops had killed a big drug dealer that didnt pay anymore and the fight for his territory got a lot of people killed. Anytime you see that pattern you know somebody big got killed because they lost police protection.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Good lord dude. Even if every armed teacher got adequate training (which wouldn’t happen), it doesn’t change the fact that they are still teachers. Cops and soldiers’ entire mindset is focused on being vigilant to possible threats. It’s not like a teacher can effectively do their jobs if they are constantly on alert for the very unlikely possibility of someone shooting up their school.

And I don’t care how well trained someone is, a 60+ year old 5 foot female teacher is not stopping a 6+ foot male teenager from taking her firearm. She’ll just be the first one he shoots. There’s a reason the vast majority of teachers are against guns in schools.

Sure she will stop him, when she pulls a bead on him and then pulls the trigger.

You just made my point. Your idea of putting guns in classrooms already resulted in a student getting shot.

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The one on the left. Wherever there are guns accidents are sure to happen.

Seriously dude? I see the sign on the left I say what ever like I seen the signs in Chicago of a nuclear free zone.






But once again if I seen the sign on the right it would make me think.....


And say to myself they are not fucking around..




View attachment 177296

Seriously.

I grew up in the hood. The one place I knew I didnt have to worry about getting shot was at school.

What year? What area?



I never had to worry about getting shot either...in the burbs or when I was like four years old going to the store by myself in Chicago.. I will always remember that...






I am toddling down the street with a dollar in my hand and all the neighbors watching me ...I got to the corner store and this nice guy hands me bread and I walk back.

Oakland CA in the 90's....

My main concern was getting to and from school without getting shot by a cop or a gang banger. Once at school I could relax a little about the gang bangers because they respected the schools. I still had to worry about the cops though.

i bet you did........

 

[Wyatt earp]

I just fail to see how people do not understand the concept of, if you ban a weapon, the law abiding citizen will be the only people who don't have them. A person set on harming others will find a way to get them, or find another means to inflict that harm.

Banning a gun isn't going to solve the problem.

Where is that concept getting lost? Do people really think that if you ban the ar15, that mass shootings are going to stop? Or even slow down? Sure, maybe they might slow a little with the ar15, but there are many other semi automatic rifles out there that will do the same thing.

It's fun I guess to argue about this but nothing will ever happen..



Me thinks the last stand was this

 

[Asclepias]

And I don’t care how well trained someone is, a 60+ year old 5 foot female teacher is not stopping a 6+ foot male teenager from taking her firearm. She’ll just be the first one he shoots. There’s a reason the vast majority of teachers are against guns in schools.

Sure she will stop him, when she pulls a bead on him and then pulls the trigger.

You think he is going to wait for her to do that? What an idiot you are.

Why do you think she's going to wait for him to assault her?

Shes going to pull a gun on him before he does anything? Man youre an idiot.

Check post # 192 and be educated....

Why should I check post #192 unless its the same as this....

"And I don’t care how well trained someone is, a 60+ year old 5 foot female teacher is not stopping a 6+ foot male teenager from taking her firearm. She’ll just be the first one he shoots. There’s a reason the vast majority of teachers are against guns in schools."

 

[Faun]

So, what you're saying is, teachers are too dumb to be trained?

On the job, I wear a level III retention holster which will prevent most attempts at a gun grab. However, if I'm incapacitated from behind, it will not prevent the assailant from taking the gun from my unconscious form.

Soldiers, on the other hand, wear little or not retention on their primary firearm.

Good lord dude. Even if every armed teacher got adequate training (which wouldn’t happen), it doesn’t change the fact that they are still teachers. Cops and soldiers’ entire mindset is focused on being vigilant to possible threats. It’s not like a teacher can effectively do their jobs if they are constantly on alert for the very unlikely possibility of someone shooting up their school.

And I don’t care how well trained someone is, a 60+ year old 5 foot female teacher is not stopping a 6+ foot male teenager from taking her firearm. She’ll just be the first one he shoots. There’s a reason the vast majority of teachers are against guns in schools.

Sure she will stop him, when she pulls a bead on him and then pulls the trigger.

You just made my point. Your idea of putting guns in classrooms already resulted in a student getting shot.

Link?

Link

 

[Reasonable]

I just fail to see how people do not understand the concept of, if you ban a weapon, the law abiding citizen will be the only people who don't have them. A person set on harming others will find a way to get them, or find another means to inflict that harm.

Banning a gun isn't going to solve the problem.

Where is that concept getting lost? Do people really think that if you ban the ar15, that mass shootings are going to stop? Or even slow down? Sure, maybe they might slow a little with the ar15, but there are many other semi automatic rifles out there that will do the same thing.

Wrong. Banning AR-15’s and other military type assault weapons will prevent nutcases from killing large amounts of people in a very period of time..
No one is trying to take guns away from people protecting their homes or for hunting.

These type of massacres don’t occur in any other country with the frequency it does in America.
We have a huge national problem.
Trump/ GOP solution: do nothing

 

[bripat9643]

Well gee obviously those people are exceptions because they are trained on using and securing their weapons

So, what you're saying is, teachers are too dumb to be trained?

On the job, I wear a level III retention holster which will prevent most attempts at a gun grab. However, if I'm incapacitated from behind, it will not prevent the assailant from taking the gun from my unconscious form.

Soldiers, on the other hand, wear little or not retention on their primary firearm.

Good lord dude. Even if every armed teacher got adequate training (which wouldn’t happen), it doesn’t change the fact that they are still teachers. Cops and soldiers’ entire mindset is focused on being vigilant to possible threats. It’s not like a teacher can effectively do their jobs if they are constantly on alert for the very unlikely possibility of someone shooting up their school.

And I don’t care how well trained someone is, a 60+ year old 5 foot female teacher is not stopping a 6+ foot male teenager from taking her firearm. She’ll just be the first one he shoots. There’s a reason the vast majority of teachers are against guns in schools.

Really? Look at faun the dumbshit. Here are three of HUNDREDS of similar cases.

‘I tried to kill him’: Pistol-packing granny faces down armed intruder
‘I tried to kill him’: Pistol-packing granny faces down armed intruder

Elderly Homeowner Shoots Home Invader in Self Defense

Would-be intruder killed by elderly man identified

Grandmother who killed man in pet spa acted in self-defense, DA says
Grandmother who killed man in pet spa acted in self-defense, DA says

Look who’s gumming at my ankles again ^^^



Idiot.... how the fuck do you compare someone breaking into a house, where the homeowner knows it’s an intruder; which a teacher in the same room with a student with no expectation of an attack??

There is a serious malfunction with your brain.

You think this teacher had the same time to react as those women in their homes?



^^^ that teacher would be dead if he had a gun on him. Why do you think most teachers don’t want guns on campus?

No, I think the student would be dead.

 

[Asclepias]

And I don’t care how well trained someone is, a 60+ year old 5 foot female teacher is not stopping a 6+ foot male teenager from taking her firearm. She’ll just be the first one he shoots. There’s a reason the vast majority of teachers are against guns in schools.

Sure she will stop him, when she pulls a bead on him and then pulls the trigger.

You think he is going to wait for her to do that? What an idiot you are.

Why do you think she's going to wait for him to assault her?

Shes going to pull a gun on him before he does anything? Man youre an idiot.

It happens all the time, dumbshit. Furthermore, we're talking about a situation where we know who the perp is because he's shooting people.

Teachers pull guns on students for no reason? No we're talking about a 6 foot teenager disarming a old teacher and shooting her because she has a gun you idiot.

 

[Faun]

Good lord dude. Even if every armed teacher got adequate training (which wouldn’t happen), it doesn’t change the fact that they are still teachers. Cops and soldiers’ entire mindset is focused on being vigilant to possible threats. It’s not like a teacher can effectively do their jobs if they are constantly on alert for the very unlikely possibility of someone shooting up their school.

And I don’t care how well trained someone is, a 60+ year old 5 foot female teacher is not stopping a 6+ foot male teenager from taking her firearm. She’ll just be the first one he shoots. There’s a reason the vast majority of teachers are against guns in schools.

Sure she will stop him, when she pulls a bead on him and then pulls the trigger.

You think he is going to wait for her to do that? What an idiot you are.

Why do you think she's going to wait for him to assault her?

Shes going to pull a gun on him before he does anything? Man youre an idiot.

“Idiot” doesn’t even scratch the surface with that one.

 

[bripat9643]

I just fail to see how people do not understand the concept of, if you ban a weapon, the law abiding citizen will be the only people who don't have them. A person set on harming others will find a way to get them, or find another means to inflict that harm.

Banning a gun isn't going to solve the problem.

Where is that concept getting lost? Do people really think that if you ban the ar15, that mass shootings are going to stop? Or even slow down? Sure, maybe they might slow a little with the ar15, but there are many other semi automatic rifles out there that will do the same thing.

Wrong. Banning AR-15’s and other military type assault weapons will prevent nutcases from killing large amounts of people in a very period of time..
No one is trying to take guns away from people protecting their homes or for hunting.

Of course you are, dumbass. Many people buy AR-15s specifically for home protection.

These type of massacres don’t occur in any other country with the frequency it does in America.
We have a huge national problem.
Trump/ GOP solution: do nothing

These types of massacres occur only where leftwingers get to make the rules, like public schools.

 

[Asclepias]

You just made my point. Your idea of putting guns in classrooms already resulted in a student getting shot.

Seriously.

I grew up in the hood. The one place I knew I didnt have to worry about getting shot was at school.

What year? What area?



I never had to worry about getting shot either...in the burbs or when I was like four years old going to the store by myself in Chicago.. I will always remember that...






I am toddling down the street with a dollar in my hand and all the neighbors watching me ...I got to the corner store and this nice guy hands me bread and I walk back.

Oakland CA in the 90's....

My main concern was getting to and from school without getting shot by a cop or a gang banger. Once at school I could relax a little about the gang bangers because they respected the schools. I still had to worry about the cops though.

Is that why they have metel detectors in schools?

Did you mean metal? That had metal detectors to make sure kids didnt bring knives and guns into school.

Right, so that would pretty much rule out any threat from gang bangers, wouldn't it?

Get to your idiot point please.

 

[bripat9643]

Sure she will stop him, when she pulls a bead on him and then pulls the trigger.

You think he is going to wait for her to do that? What an idiot you are.

Why do you think she's going to wait for him to assault her?

Shes going to pull a gun on him before he does anything? Man youre an idiot.

It happens all the time, dumbshit. Furthermore, we're talking about a situation where we know who the perp is because he's shooting people.

Teachers pull guns on students for no reason? No we're talking about a 6 foot teenager disarming a old teacher and shooting her because she has a gun you idiot.

How would he even know she has a gun, eh idiot? She's carrying it concealed. That's what "concealed carry" means. If he intends to kill a teacher, then what stops him from bringing a gun to class and blowing her away? Nothing stopped this Cruz guy.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Your point is silly.

Liberals are "peace through weakness" advocates....

History shows where that led in the past....

Conservatives are not part of the problem. They ARE the problem.
They are so indebted to the NRA for giving them millions that they will sit by idly and watch children being gunned down in their schools rather than forsaking the NRA money.

Stop the bullshit asshat their is a thing called the 2nd amendment and liberals has the same amount of guns as Republicans..





Again..and I am being serious...

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Well gee obviously those people are exceptions because they are trained on using and securing their weapons

So, what you're saying is, teachers are too dumb to be trained?

On the job, I wear a level III retention holster which will prevent most attempts at a gun grab. However, if I'm incapacitated from behind, it will not prevent the assailant from taking the gun from my unconscious form.

Soldiers, on the other hand, wear little or not retention on their primary firearm.

Good lord dude. Even if every armed teacher got adequate training (which wouldn’t happen), it doesn’t change the fact that they are still teachers. Cops and soldiers’ entire mindset is focused on being vigilant to possible threats. It’s not like a teacher can effectively do their jobs if they are constantly on alert for the very unlikely possibility of someone shooting up their school.

And I don’t care how well trained someone is, a 60+ year old 5 foot female teacher is not stopping a 6+ foot male teenager from taking her firearm. She’ll just be the first one he shoots. There’s a reason the vast majority of teachers are against guns in schools.

They are?

 

[bripat9643]

And I don’t care how well trained someone is, a 60+ year old 5 foot female teacher is not stopping a 6+ foot male teenager from taking her firearm. She’ll just be the first one he shoots. There’s a reason the vast majority of teachers are against guns in schools.

Sure she will stop him, when she pulls a bead on him and then pulls the trigger.

You think he is going to wait for her to do that? What an idiot you are.

Why do you think she's going to wait for him to assault her?

Shes going to pull a gun on him before he does anything? Man youre an idiot.

“Idiot” doesn’t even scratch the surface with that one.

You are so bitter about getting your ass kicked.

 

[Asclepias]

You think he is going to wait for her to do that? What an idiot you are.

Why do you think she's going to wait for him to assault her?

Shes going to pull a gun on him before he does anything? Man youre an idiot.

It happens all the time, dumbshit. Furthermore, we're talking about a situation where we know who the perp is because he's shooting people.

Teachers pull guns on students for no reason? No we're talking about a 6 foot teenager disarming a old teacher and shooting her because she has a gun you idiot.

How would he even know she has a gun, eh idiot? She's carrying it concealed. That's what "concealed carry" means. If he intends to kill a teacher, then what stops him from bringing a gun to class and blowing her away? Nothing stopped this Cruz guy.

How do kids know where their parents guns are? You honestly cant be this stupid can you? You must have been one those slow kids that never quite got things in school right? Kids always find out things regarding their teachers.