I'm Off the Fence; Going to Support Trump After He Called for National CCW Recognition

[candycorn]

More good news for Hillary.

You guys are making this too easy....

 

[candycorn]

Why I would be honored to vote for Donald Trump! {A personal story}

"1) Standard of Excellence and Attention to Detail. I have never in my life before or since, encountered anyone or anything that is as detailed oriented as Donald Trump. His level of perfection and his standard of excellence - is the ultimate form of mastery. This is where his Midas touch comes from, this is his "IT" factor. There were details on the renovation that passed the scrutiny of the world's best architects, supervisors and managers. They would immediately be picked up by Donald Trump. They were corrected immediately and after that correction the job did not only look different, it felt different....
"2) Work Ethic and Tenacity. Like I said, I worked the night shift. Donald Trump himself would check up on the job often. But remember I said the night shift. He would sometimes come as late as 1 am in the morning to monitor the process. He would also show up as early as 6am. He was always present with the same energy level and a wherewithal like no one else I ever met. Never once did I not see him impeccably dressed. Always perfect, always on point, never anything other than excellent. ....
"I know as President, Donald Trump will be fully committed to his task at hand. He breeds success. He enjoys success, success is what makes him tick. It will never end. Donald Trump didn't want to build buildings in New York City. He wants to build the best buildings in the best city in the world. He does not merely want to be President, he wants to be the best President ever, for the best country ever in the history of the world. He will see to it that it gets done. ...
"3) Personality and Image. If I never watched an episode of the Apprentice, if I never read a Tabloid, I would have had a different opinion about Donald Trump. When Donald Trump would come to the job he would interact with all people in a very friendly and personable manner. He would smile, be polite, shake hands, and most importantly give credit where credit was due. He would also without hesitation immediately throw someone off the job if they didn't measure up. Prior to showing up to work. I would have an extra bounce in my step knowing I was being included with the best. I was excited to be a part of a "Donald Trump" project....
"Say what you want about Trump. Maybe you don't like his "ego." I will address that next. However, Trump, the word itself is used to describe a card that beats all others. Trump's personality and image will now be a governing force of the USA. We will now have a President that constantly reminds us, that we are the best, and what is wrong with that....
"4) Egomania, Bankruptcies. and other Controversies. Some people like to call Trump an egomaniac. Why should we fault Trump? Donald Trump is off the charts successful. He is the best. His buildings are the best. Everything he does is the best. He has the right to think highly of himself.
"OK you disagree? Donald Trump may have an oversize ego. Who do you think he will be dealing with on a day to day basis while President? Most leaders in most countries in the world have a ridiculously oversized ego. Do you think Vladmir Putin is not an egomaniac, who would destroy the USA if he could? How about the Islamic Jihadist's? They are hellbent on our annihilation. Donald Trump as President could deal with these guys as well as or even better than the best of them."


Good article and describes a lot of what I am feeling too. This nation can do so much better than it is, especially after a Third World Wannabe Dictator leaves office with the nation in the dump.

Funniest post ever.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Funniest post ever.

I'd be worried too having Hillary as our standard bearer. And your only other option is Bernie Sanders an avowed socialist.

 

[charwin95]

Using the same wrong comparison again Jimbowie. Bab bad bad.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Trump Plan Calls For Nationwide Concealed Carry And An End To Gun Bans

“Law-abiding people should be allowed to own the firearm of their choice. The government has no business dictating what types of firearms good, honest people are allowed to own,” Trump wrote.

"It’s not a departure from what he’s said on the trail this year, though it does mark a shift from a position he took in his 2000 book “The America We Deserve,” where Trump stated that he generally opposes gun control but that he supported a ban on assault weapons and a longer waiting period to get a gun.

“Opponents of gun rights try to come up with scary sounding phrases like ‘assault weapons’, ‘military-style weapons’ and ‘high capacity magazines’ to confuse people,” Trump wrote Friday. “What they’re really talking about are popular semi-automatic rifles and standard magazines that are owned by tens of millions of Americans.”

"Trump said in the paper he has a concealed carry permit. The permits, which are issued by states, should be valid nationwide like a driver’s license, Trump said.

“If we can do that for driving — which is a privilege, not a right — then surely we can do that for concealed carry, which is a right, not a privilege,” Trump said.

"Trump has apparently had a handgun permit for years; a 1987 Associated Press story said he had one at the time."


Trump is the only GOP candidate that is pushing the gun control bullshit back in the faces of the national Marxist Media. I have to support a man with this kind of courage and conviction.

I'm still not supporting Trump, but I'm glad he's pushing for this.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Using the same wrong comparison again Jimbowie. Bab bad bad.

There is nothing wrong with the comparison, ass hat.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Funniest post ever.

No, that would be the one with your birth certificate where it says you are an American.

 

[JimBowie1958]

More good news for Hillary.

You guys are making this too easy....

Lets see whose laughing in 2017, bimbo.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Trump Plan Calls For Nationwide Concealed Carry And An End To Gun Bans

“Law-abiding people should be allowed to own the firearm of their choice. The government has no business dictating what types of firearms good, honest people are allowed to own,” Trump wrote.

"It’s not a departure from what he’s said on the trail this year, though it does mark a shift from a position he took in his 2000 book “The America We Deserve,” where Trump stated that he generally opposes gun control but that he supported a ban on assault weapons and a longer waiting period to get a gun.

“Opponents of gun rights try to come up with scary sounding phrases like ‘assault weapons’, ‘military-style weapons’ and ‘high capacity magazines’ to confuse people,” Trump wrote Friday. “What they’re really talking about are popular semi-automatic rifles and standard magazines that are owned by tens of millions of Americans.”

"Trump said in the paper he has a concealed carry permit. The permits, which are issued by states, should be valid nationwide like a driver’s license, Trump said.

“If we can do that for driving — which is a privilege, not a right — then surely we can do that for concealed carry, which is a right, not a privilege,” Trump said.

"Trump has apparently had a handgun permit for years; a 1987 Associated Press story said he had one at the time."


Trump is the only GOP candidate that is pushing the gun control bullshit back in the faces of the national Marxist Media. I have to support a man with this kind of courage and conviction.

CC isn't a right. Can own a firearm and keep it in your home. But out n about you're subject to local laws.

 

[JimBowie1958]

CC isn't a right. Can own a firearm and keep it in your home. But out n about you're subject to local laws.

I disagree. The Second Amendment gives us the right to *bear* arms, i.e. to carry guns and other weapons.

The CCW is just a halfway stepping stone to the full Constitutional carry being implemented.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

CC isn't a right. Can own a firearm and keep it in your home. But out n about you're subject to local laws.

I disagree. The Second Amendment gives us the right to *bear* arms, i.e. to carry guns and other weapons.

The CCW is just a halfway stepping stone to the full Constitutional carry being implemented.

"Carrying Concealed Firearms Not Protected by 2nd Amendment: 10th Cir.

The U.S. 10th Circuit is the latest Circuit Court of Appeals to weigh in on regulations that restrict the carrying of concealed firearms. It ruled on Friday, February 22, 2013, that "the carrying of concealed firearms is not protected by the Second Amendment or the Privileges and Immunities Clause.""
Carrying Concealed Firearms Not Protected by 2nd Amendment - FindLaw

 

[M14 Shooter]

CC isn't a right. Can own a firearm and keep it in your home. But out n about you're subject to local laws.

According to the US 7th circuit it is, when it struck IL's ban on concealed carry, forcing it to become a shall-issue state.
Moore v. Madigan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[JimBowie1958]

CC isn't a right. Can own a firearm and keep it in your home. But out n about you're subject to local laws.

I disagree. The Second Amendment gives us the right to *bear* arms, i.e. to carry guns and other weapons.

The CCW is just a halfway stepping stone to the full Constitutional carry being implemented.

"Carrying Concealed Firearms Not Protected by 2nd Amendment: 10th Cir.

The U.S. 10th Circuit is the latest Circuit Court of Appeals to weigh in on regulations that restrict the carrying of concealed firearms. It ruled on Friday, February 22, 2013, that "the carrying of concealed firearms is not protected by the Second Amendment or the Privileges and Immunities Clause.""
Carrying Concealed Firearms Not Protected by 2nd Amendment - FindLaw

So what? That is the opinion of one circuit court and SCOTUS is likely to over rule them anyway.

I like this one much better.


McDonald v. City of Chicago - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"McDonald v. Chicago, 561 U.S. 742 (2010), is a landmark[1] decision of the Supreme Court of the United States that determined whether the Second Amendment applies to the individual states. The Court held that the right of an individual to "keep and bear arms" protected by the Second Amendment is incorporated by the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment and applies to the states. The decision cleared up the uncertainty left in the wake of District of Columbia v. Heller as to the scope of gun rights in regard to the states.

"Initially the Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit had upheld a Chicago ordinance banning the possession of handguns as well as other gun regulations affecting rifles and shotguns, citing United States v. Cruikshank, Presser v. Illinois, and Miller v. Texas.[2] The petition for certiorari was filed by Alan Gura, the attorney who had successfully argued Heller, and Chicago-area attorney David G. Sigale.[3] The Second Amendment Foundation and the Illinois State Rifle Association sponsored the litigation on behalf of several Chicago residents, including retiree Otis McDonald.

"The oral arguments took place on March 2, 2010.[4][5] On June 28, 2010, the Supreme Court, in a 5–4 decision, reversed the Seventh Circuit's decision, holding that the Second Amendment was incorporated under the Fourteenth Amendment thus protecting those rights from infringement by local governments.[6] It then remanded the case back to Seventh Circuit to resolve conflicts between certain Chicago gun restrictions and the Second Amendment."

 

[Delta4Embassy]

CC isn't a right. Can own a firearm and keep it in your home. But out n about you're subject to local laws.

According to the US 7th circuit it is, when it struck IL's ban on concealed carry, forcing it to become a shall-issue state.
Moore v. Madigan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not the same thing. Your's is about local state's issuance of cc permits. His point was the 2nd assume concealed carrying is protected. It's not.

 

[JimBowie1958]

CC isn't a right. Can own a firearm and keep it in your home. But out n about you're subject to local laws.

According to the US 7th circuit it is, when it struck IL's ban on concealed carry, forcing it to become a shall-issue state.
Moore v. Madigan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not the same thing. Your's is about local state's issuance of cc permits. His point was the 2nd assume concealed carrying is protected. It's not.

Bullshit.

"The Court held that the right of an individual to "keep and bear arms" protected by the Second Amendment is incorporated by the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment and applies to the states."

 

[Delta4Embassy]

'Bear arms' as used in the 2nd suggests open-carry. Not concealed. Very fact you need a cc permit says that much. Plus whether firearms were even concealable back when the 2nd was written is a good question.

"I think the court was quite right to recognize a right to carry guns in public for self-defense (for more on this, see here). I also think the court was right to allow the state to limit such carrying to concealed carrying, precisely because such carrying doesn’t substantially interfere with the ability to defend oneself."
Second Amendment protects carrying guns outside the home, but state may require concealed carry rather than open carry


Best States for Concealed Carry 2015 - Guns & Ammo

Very fact that it varies from state to state should inform even a moron it's not coming from the 2nd amendment.

 

[M14 Shooter]

CC isn't a right. Can own a firearm and keep it in your home. But out n about you're subject to local laws.

According to the US 7th circuit it is, when it struck IL's ban on concealed carry, forcing it to become a shall-issue state.
Moore v. Madigan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not the same thing. Your's is about local state's issuance of cc permits. His point was the 2nd assume concealed carrying is protected. It's not.

Yes, the same thing, as the ruling deals directly with the 2nd and the right to to keep and bear arms for self-defense.
US 7th Circuit ruled it applies outside the home as well as inside and voiced the Illinois on ban on concealed carry.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

CC isn't a right. Can own a firearm and keep it in your home. But out n about you're subject to local laws.

According to the US 7th circuit it is, when it struck IL's ban on concealed carry, forcing it to become a shall-issue state.
Moore v. Madigan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not the same thing. Your's is about local state's issuance of cc permits. His point was the 2nd assume concealed carrying is protected. It's not.

Yes, the same thing, as the ruling deals directly with the 2nd and the right to to keep and bear arms for self-defense.
US 7th Circuit ruled it applies outside the home as well as inside and voiced the Illinois on ban on concealed carry.

Disagree. That you may need a cc permit is at odds with that interpretation.

 

[M14 Shooter]

CC isn't a right. Can own a firearm and keep it in your home. But out n about you're subject to local laws.

According to the US 7th circuit it is, when it struck IL's ban on concealed carry, forcing it to become a shall-issue state.
Moore v. Madigan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not the same thing. Your's is about local state's issuance of cc permits. His point was the 2nd assume concealed carrying is protected. It's not.

Yes, the same thing, as the ruling deals directly with the 2nd and the right to to keep and bear arms for self-defense.
US 7th Circuit ruled it applies outside the home as well as inside and voiced the Illinois on ban on concealed carry.

Disagree. That you may need a cc permit is at odds with that interpretation.

Not any more than needing a permit to parade down a city street means that your right to do so is not assumed by the 1st amendment -- 'shall issue' means the state must recognize your right unless it has a legally-defined reason to not do so.
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[jc456]

More good news for Hillary.

You guys are making this too easy....

that's an oxymoron