In Donald Trump’s Worldview, America Comes First, and Everybody Else Pays

[Pogo]

Ummmmmmmmmmmm.... what exactly is the TOPIC here?

Want a hint? Check the title. See anything there about any "Hillary"?
You haven't touched the topic yet. All you do is try to change the subject.

Why is that exactly?

Fuck you, ass wipe....I will post any fucking thing I want and I will run that Hitlery klunt down on any thread I deem necessary...get it, punkinpuss? You have got NOTHING.....

The inability to stay on the topic is all yours, Peewee... learn to read.

Ummmmmmmmmmmm.... what exactly is the TOPIC here?

Want a hint? Check the title. See anything there about any "Hillary"?
You haven't touched the topic yet. All you do is try to change the subject.

Why is that exactly?

Fuck you, ass wipe....I will post any fucking thing I want and I will run that Hitlery klunt down on any thread I deem necessary...get it, punkinpuss? You have got NOTHING.....

The inability to stay on the topic is all yours, Peewee... learn to read.

TOPIC: Rump...
YOU: "but but... Hillary"
TOPIC: Rump
YOU: "Fuck you ass wipe"

No, because the leftard clown posse's best defense for a POS like Hitlery is an attempt at an offense against Trump...thus the reason I bring her up because she is the alternative. I don't know what America would be getting with Trump but I know damn well what we would be getting with that witch and it should scare the ever loving shit out of everyone that has the ability to think. I don't have to answer every charge against Trump to placate douchebags like you....not when Hitlery has enough baggage to fill the cargo hold of a 757.

Once AGAIN --- the topic is Rump and his worldview. That has nothing to do with "Hillary" or anybody else. You simply cannot deal with the topic as rendered, so you desperately reach to grab anything to change the subject. That's nobody's shortcoming but your own. It doesn't seem to sink in to that dense cranial cavity that Hillary and Rump are --- two different people.

And no, she is far from "the alternative", singular. The freaking primaries and conventions haven't even run their course yet.

YOur claim to want serious discussion on Trump is greatly undermined by your childish mocking of his name.

I call Rump exactly what he is and I do so via one of my favorite avenues, les jeux des mots. But if you have a better one I'm always open.

See also the poster I'm actually talking to and his spelling of the topic of this thread as, and I quote, "Hitlery".
I think mine wins.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Between Obama and Trump? There are different symptoms, but they are the same disease, they care about themselves and they inspire fanatical lunatics to jump off buildings for them. In the end, they both are terrible for the country

Where have I jumped off a bridge, dude?

We live in a system run by the elites that is built on fraud, deceit and intellectual prostitution.

The ship is sinking and you need to jump off before it sucks you down with the under tow.

Supporting Trump is not jumping off a bridge; it is diving for a life boat.

 

[Pogo]

In Donald Trump’s Worldview, America Comes First, and Everybody Else Pays

The guy with the ties from China? The one whose hats are made by "rapists"?

Did you just fall off a turnip truck? In Rump's worldview Donald T. Rump comes first, last, and everywhere in between. It's always been that way and we have absolutely no indication whatsoever that it will not always be so. If anything this political season has underscored, emphasized and trumpeted that fact from the rooftops for anyone with ears to hear.

You people believe anything. No matter how crazy it is, if someone says it, you believe it.

Donald Trumps hats are not made by rapists, or Mexicans, and he didn't call all Mexicans rapists. Man you people are mentally childish.

Right here:

>> The red-and-white caps are emblazoned with the real estate mogul's oft-repeated slogan, “Make America Great Again.”

But look around the factory floor where these hats are being made by the thousands, and you’ll find faces that don’t seem to fit into Trump’s America.

Yolanda Melendrez is one of them. Melendrez, an immigrant from Mexico who was brought to the United States by her parents when she was a baby, has worked at the Carson-based Cali-Fame headwear company since 1991.

“When we first got the order [for the Trump hats], I said to myself, ‘Just wait until he sees who’s making his hats. We’re Latinos, we’re Mexicans, Salvadoreños.’” <<
​

And nice strawman swing-and-a-miss but I didn't say he called ALL Mexicans "rapists". Just the ones that migrate here.
The ones Mexico, as he put it "sends". As if it's some national military-style draft.

 

[Pogo]

Ummmmmmmmmmmm.... what exactly is the TOPIC here?

Want a hint? Check the title. See anything there about any "Hillary"?
You haven't touched the topic yet. All you do is try to change the subject.

Why is that exactly?

Fuck you, ass wipe....I will post any fucking thing I want and I will run that Hitlery klunt down on any thread I deem necessary...get it, punkinpuss? You have got NOTHING.....

The inability to stay on the topic is all yours, Peewee... learn to read.

Ummmmmmmmmmmm.... what exactly is the TOPIC here?

Want a hint? Check the title. See anything there about any "Hillary"?
You haven't touched the topic yet. All you do is try to change the subject.

Why is that exactly?

Fuck you, ass wipe....I will post any fucking thing I want and I will run that Hitlery klunt down on any thread I deem necessary...get it, punkinpuss? You have got NOTHING.....

The inability to stay on the topic is all yours, Peewee... learn to read.

TOPIC: Rump...
YOU: "but but... Hillary"
TOPIC: Rump
YOU: "Fuck you ass wipe"

No, because the leftard clown posse's best defense for a POS like Hitlery is an attempt at an offense against Trump...thus the reason I bring her up because she is the alternative. I don't know what America would be getting with Trump but I know damn well what we would be getting with that witch and it should scare the ever loving shit out of everyone that has the ability to think. I don't have to answer every charge against Trump to placate douchebags like you....not when Hitlery has enough baggage to fill the cargo hold of a 757.

Once AGAIN --- the topic is Rump and his worldview. That has nothing to do with "Hillary" or anybody else. You simply cannot deal with the topic as rendered, so you desperately reach to grab anything to change the subject. That's nobody's shortcoming but your own. It doesn't seem to sink in to that dense cranial cavity that Hillary and Rump are --- two different people.

And no, she is far from "the alternative", singular. The freaking primaries and conventions haven't even run their course yet.

I don't have a problem at all with Trump's world view and he seems to be evolving as time goes on. What he does know is that something is very wrong with the path this country has taken and he hasn't been afraid to speak out against the establishment from both parties. I doubt that you have the ability to look at Hitlery through the same lenses that you do Trump...because after all, she is a Fabian socialist like you are...but her views about fairness and yours differ quite a bit.....

BraVO Madge --- finally figured out what the topic is. It was like pulling teeth.

Of course in one sentence you reverted to HDS. Oh well, a flash in the pan. Stopped clock syndrome.

 

[Dale Smith]

Fuck you, ass wipe....I will post any fucking thing I want and I will run that Hitlery klunt down on any thread I deem necessary...get it, punkinpuss? You have got NOTHING.....

The inability to stay on the topic is all yours, Peewee... learn to read.

Fuck you, ass wipe....I will post any fucking thing I want and I will run that Hitlery klunt down on any thread I deem necessary...get it, punkinpuss? You have got NOTHING.....

The inability to stay on the topic is all yours, Peewee... learn to read.

TOPIC: Rump...
YOU: "but but... Hillary"
TOPIC: Rump
YOU: "Fuck you ass wipe"

No, because the leftard clown posse's best defense for a POS like Hitlery is an attempt at an offense against Trump...thus the reason I bring her up because she is the alternative. I don't know what America would be getting with Trump but I know damn well what we would be getting with that witch and it should scare the ever loving shit out of everyone that has the ability to think. I don't have to answer every charge against Trump to placate douchebags like you....not when Hitlery has enough baggage to fill the cargo hold of a 757.

Once AGAIN --- the topic is Rump and his worldview. That has nothing to do with "Hillary" or anybody else. You simply cannot deal with the topic as rendered, so you desperately reach to grab anything to change the subject. That's nobody's shortcoming but your own. It doesn't seem to sink in to that dense cranial cavity that Hillary and Rump are --- two different people.

And no, she is far from "the alternative", singular. The freaking primaries and conventions haven't even run their course yet.

I don't have a problem at all with Trump's world view and he seems to be evolving as time goes on. What he does know is that something is very wrong with the path this country has taken and he hasn't been afraid to speak out against the establishment from both parties. I doubt that you have the ability to look at Hitlery through the same lenses that you do Trump...because after all, she is a Fabian socialist like you are...but her views about fairness and yours differ quite a bit.....

BraVO Madge --- finally figured out what the topic is. It was like pulling teeth.

Of course in one sentence you reverted to HDS. Oh well, a flash in the pan. Stopped clock syndrome.

Bite me, bitch..............if you think that you can sway people to support Hitlery because you attack Trump? All I can say is good luck with all that.

 

[Pogo]

The inability to stay on the topic is all yours, Peewee... learn to read.

The inability to stay on the topic is all yours, Peewee... learn to read.

TOPIC: Rump...
YOU: "but but... Hillary"
TOPIC: Rump
YOU: "Fuck you ass wipe"

No, because the leftard clown posse's best defense for a POS like Hitlery is an attempt at an offense against Trump...thus the reason I bring her up because she is the alternative. I don't know what America would be getting with Trump but I know damn well what we would be getting with that witch and it should scare the ever loving shit out of everyone that has the ability to think. I don't have to answer every charge against Trump to placate douchebags like you....not when Hitlery has enough baggage to fill the cargo hold of a 757.

Once AGAIN --- the topic is Rump and his worldview. That has nothing to do with "Hillary" or anybody else. You simply cannot deal with the topic as rendered, so you desperately reach to grab anything to change the subject. That's nobody's shortcoming but your own. It doesn't seem to sink in to that dense cranial cavity that Hillary and Rump are --- two different people.

And no, she is far from "the alternative", singular. The freaking primaries and conventions haven't even run their course yet.

I don't have a problem at all with Trump's world view and he seems to be evolving as time goes on. What he does know is that something is very wrong with the path this country has taken and he hasn't been afraid to speak out against the establishment from both parties. I doubt that you have the ability to look at Hitlery through the same lenses that you do Trump...because after all, she is a Fabian socialist like you are...but her views about fairness and yours differ quite a bit.....

BraVO Madge --- finally figured out what the topic is. It was like pulling teeth.

Of course in one sentence you reverted to HDS. Oh well, a flash in the pan. Stopped clock syndrome.

Bite me, bitch..............if you think that you can sway people to support Hitlery because you attack Trump? All I can say is good luck with all that.

Link to where I've made any attempt to "sway people to support Hitlery" anywhere is ------ where?

Up your ass?

Again for you kids who just arrived on the short bus --- the topic is "Rump".... not "Hitlery".

 

[thanatos144]

The inability to stay on the topic is all yours, Peewee... learn to read.

The inability to stay on the topic is all yours, Peewee... learn to read.

TOPIC: Rump...
YOU: "but but... Hillary"
TOPIC: Rump
YOU: "Fuck you ass wipe"

No, because the leftard clown posse's best defense for a POS like Hitlery is an attempt at an offense against Trump...thus the reason I bring her up because she is the alternative. I don't know what America would be getting with Trump but I know damn well what we would be getting with that witch and it should scare the ever loving shit out of everyone that has the ability to think. I don't have to answer every charge against Trump to placate douchebags like you....not when Hitlery has enough baggage to fill the cargo hold of a 757.

Once AGAIN --- the topic is Rump and his worldview. That has nothing to do with "Hillary" or anybody else. You simply cannot deal with the topic as rendered, so you desperately reach to grab anything to change the subject. That's nobody's shortcoming but your own. It doesn't seem to sink in to that dense cranial cavity that Hillary and Rump are --- two different people.

And no, she is far from "the alternative", singular. The freaking primaries and conventions haven't even run their course yet.

I don't have a problem at all with Trump's world view and he seems to be evolving as time goes on. What he does know is that something is very wrong with the path this country has taken and he hasn't been afraid to speak out against the establishment from both parties. I doubt that you have the ability to look at Hitlery through the same lenses that you do Trump...because after all, she is a Fabian socialist like you are...but her views about fairness and yours differ quite a bit.....

BraVO Madge --- finally figured out what the topic is. It was like pulling teeth.

Of course in one sentence you reverted to HDS. Oh well, a flash in the pan. Stopped clock syndrome.

Bite me, bitch..............if you think that you can sway people to support Hitlery because you attack Trump? All I can say is good luck with all that.

There is no difference between Trump sand Hillary,

 

[Correll]

No, because the leftard clown posse's best defense for a POS like Hitlery is an attempt at an offense against Trump...thus the reason I bring her up because she is the alternative. I don't know what America would be getting with Trump but I know damn well what we would be getting with that witch and it should scare the ever loving shit out of everyone that has the ability to think. I don't have to answer every charge against Trump to placate douchebags like you....not when Hitlery has enough baggage to fill the cargo hold of a 757.

Once AGAIN --- the topic is Rump and his worldview. That has nothing to do with "Hillary" or anybody else. You simply cannot deal with the topic as rendered, so you desperately reach to grab anything to change the subject. That's nobody's shortcoming but your own. It doesn't seem to sink in to that dense cranial cavity that Hillary and Rump are --- two different people.

And no, she is far from "the alternative", singular. The freaking primaries and conventions haven't even run their course yet.

I don't have a problem at all with Trump's world view and he seems to be evolving as time goes on. What he does know is that something is very wrong with the path this country has taken and he hasn't been afraid to speak out against the establishment from both parties. I doubt that you have the ability to look at Hitlery through the same lenses that you do Trump...because after all, she is a Fabian socialist like you are...but her views about fairness and yours differ quite a bit.....

BraVO Madge --- finally figured out what the topic is. It was like pulling teeth.

Of course in one sentence you reverted to HDS. Oh well, a flash in the pan. Stopped clock syndrome.

Bite me, bitch..............if you think that you can sway people to support Hitlery because you attack Trump? All I can say is good luck with all that.

There is no difference between Trump sand Hillary,

HIs world view is completely different. HIs policies are complete opposite.

Hillary will give the illegals amnesty. Trump will deport them AND their anchor babies.

 

[thanatos144]

Once AGAIN --- the topic is Rump and his worldview. That has nothing to do with "Hillary" or anybody else. You simply cannot deal with the topic as rendered, so you desperately reach to grab anything to change the subject. That's nobody's shortcoming but your own. It doesn't seem to sink in to that dense cranial cavity that Hillary and Rump are --- two different people.

And no, she is far from "the alternative", singular. The freaking primaries and conventions haven't even run their course yet.

I don't have a problem at all with Trump's world view and he seems to be evolving as time goes on. What he does know is that something is very wrong with the path this country has taken and he hasn't been afraid to speak out against the establishment from both parties. I doubt that you have the ability to look at Hitlery through the same lenses that you do Trump...because after all, she is a Fabian socialist like you are...but her views about fairness and yours differ quite a bit.....

BraVO Madge --- finally figured out what the topic is. It was like pulling teeth.

Of course in one sentence you reverted to HDS. Oh well, a flash in the pan. Stopped clock syndrome.

Bite me, bitch..............if you think that you can sway people to support Hitlery because you attack Trump? All I can say is good luck with all that.

There is no difference between Trump sand Hillary,

HIs world view is completely different. HIs policies are complete opposite.

Hillary will give the illegals amnesty. Trump will deport them AND their anchor babies.

If that was true the Trump wouldn't have given her so much money.....

 

[Correll]

I don't have a problem at all with Trump's world view and he seems to be evolving as time goes on. What he does know is that something is very wrong with the path this country has taken and he hasn't been afraid to speak out against the establishment from both parties. I doubt that you have the ability to look at Hitlery through the same lenses that you do Trump...because after all, she is a Fabian socialist like you are...but her views about fairness and yours differ quite a bit.....

BraVO Madge --- finally figured out what the topic is. It was like pulling teeth.

Of course in one sentence you reverted to HDS. Oh well, a flash in the pan. Stopped clock syndrome.

Bite me, bitch..............if you think that you can sway people to support Hitlery because you attack Trump? All I can say is good luck with all that.

There is no difference between Trump sand Hillary,

HIs world view is completely different. HIs policies are complete opposite.

Hillary will give the illegals amnesty. Trump will deport them AND their anchor babies.

If that was true the Trump wouldn't have given her so much money.....

Businessmen and corporations don't donate money to politicians because they agree with them, but because they have to prevent the power of government from being turned against them.

The difference in policies is real.

 

[dannyboys]

BraVO Madge --- finally figured out what the topic is. It was like pulling teeth.

Of course in one sentence you reverted to HDS. Oh well, a flash in the pan. Stopped clock syndrome.

Bite me, bitch..............if you think that you can sway people to support Hitlery because you attack Trump? All I can say is good luck with all that.

There is no difference between Trump sand Hillary,

HIs world view is completely different. HIs policies are complete opposite.

Hillary will give the illegals amnesty. Trump will deport them AND their anchor babies.

If that was true the Trump wouldn't have given her so much money.....

Businessmen and corporations don't donate money to politicians because they agree with them, but because they have to prevent the power of government from being turned against them.

The difference in policies is real.

Trump literally bought the fucking Clinton's years ago. Everyone KNEW the Clintons have ALWAYS been for sale.
Still are.

 

[Correll]

Bite me, bitch..............if you think that you can sway people to support Hitlery because you attack Trump? All I can say is good luck with all that.

There is no difference between Trump sand Hillary,

HIs world view is completely different. HIs policies are complete opposite.

Hillary will give the illegals amnesty. Trump will deport them AND their anchor babies.

If that was true the Trump wouldn't have given her so much money.....

Businessmen and corporations don't donate money to politicians because they agree with them, but because they have to prevent the power of government from being turned against them.

The difference in policies is real.

Trump literally bought the fucking Clinton's years ago. Everyone KNEW the Clintons have ALWAYS been for sale.
Still are.

Well, I imagine that that "sale" is null and void now.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

And that's pretty accurate thinking on his part. That's why the networks are always trying to interview him: because he brings in a lot of viewers.

It is only accurate in Trumps mind

The rest of the world laughs at Trump

No, it's not in his mind, it's in the ratings. Remember Trump is more than just a successful business man. He spent a lot of time in the entertainment world as well. He knows ratings, he understands what ratings mean for revenue, and he understand that when he is on the tube, ratings go up.

That's hardly what I would say is just in his mind.

Yes he does, but ---- do you?

Having been in broadcasting for four decades I never tire of pointing this out -- ratings do not measure assent; they measure attention. And that is after all what Rump's quest is every moment of every day --- attention to himself. It's the prison a Narcissistic Personality Disorder enslaves itself to (and the thinskinned Twitter meltdowns are the other side of that same coin).

But attention is not "assent". Drivers on a highway will all slow down and devote attention to the overturned tractor trailer engulfed in flames --- that in no way means they "agree" with the idea of overturned tractor trailers engulfed in flames.


Tragically, what this all means in the context of political campaigning is that we get a wide swath of the Unwashed "following" and even voting for a media stick figure on the basis that "I've heard of that guy --- he's been on TV".

Can you explain how you've been in broadcasting for four decades and not even know how they make money?

There is not one candidate out there that would refuse the attention Trump is getting. In fact, Rubio made a statement about O'Reilly and how he had Trump on way more than himself.

Free publicity is a huge benefit to any candidate which is why they will take all they can get. It's not narcissism, it's normal.

Seems to me I just articulated how they make money. What part of it isn't clear? I defined what ratings are, and what they aren't, and the distinction between attention and assent. Ratings mean the former -- not the latter.

That, in turn, calls into question your claim that the public "listens to Rump because he's Rump", implying some sort of gravitas to his presence. So I pointed out that no, people watch him because he's a spectacle. A train wreck.

The same reason they watch WWE, Gallagher or Evel Knievel. Nobody ever watched Evel Knievel for the purpose of picking up driving tips.

You might be correct if his ratings, his domination in the primaries, his sellout crowds at rallies didn't reflect the audiences that watch him on television, but they do.

The problem is that you are not in tune with reality. And reality is that because you see Trump as a clown does not mean others do. They are taking him very seriously. He is talking to people in plain simple English that even non-followers of politics can understand. He's telling people we need to throw the illegals out, bring back jobs to this country, and most all politicians are on the take and a bunch of crooks which is what people on the left and right have been saying for many many years. Just like people on the left and right say they are sick of professional politicians. Well........here's your chance to do something about it.

Just so you know, I didn't vote for Trump in the primaries. I voted for Kasich out of solidarity. But if he does make it as our nominee, of course I will vote for him. No, I don't think he's the best qualified to run the country, but I'm sick of professional politicians too.

 

[Pogo]

The problem is that you are not in tune with reality. And reality is that because you see Trump as a clown does not mean others do. They are taking him very seriously.

Yes I can see that, it's obvious. That's not what I'm arguing. My point is the reasoning behind that --- what it is, and what it is not.

Rump himself, IIRC, articulated the whole problem when he ran away from a debate because Megyn Kelly would be there, and then said "let's see what their ratings are" (without his participation). He thinks all this is no deeper than selling "Rump -- the Game" on late night infomercials. Actually citing "ratings" --- for a political debate. That's gotta be a first.

I cut your post here because it goes out on speculation limbs and isn't relevant to all this anyway.

 

[MrShangles]

In Donald Trump’s Worldview, America Comes First, and Everybody Else Pays

The guy with the ties from China? The one whose hats are made by "rapists"?

Did you just fall off a turnip truck? In Rump's worldview Donald T. Rump comes first, last, and everywhere in between. It's always been that way and we have absolutely no indication whatsoever that it will not always be so. If anything this political season has underscored, emphasized and trumpeted that fact from the rooftops for anyone with ears to hear.

You people believe anything. No matter how crazy it is, if someone says it, you believe it.

Donald Trumps hats are not made by rapists, or Mexicans, and he didn't call all Mexicans rapists. Man you people are mentally childish.

Right here:

>> The red-and-white caps are emblazoned with the real estate mogul's oft-repeated slogan, “Make America Great Again.”

But look around the factory floor where these hats are being made by the thousands, and you’ll find faces that don’t seem to fit into Trump’s America.

Yolanda Melendrez is one of them. Melendrez, an immigrant from Mexico who was brought to the United States by her parents when she was a baby, has worked at the Carson-based Cali-Fame headwear company since 1991.

“When we first got the order [for the Trump hats], I said to myself, ‘Just wait until he sees who’s making his hats. We’re Latinos, we’re Mexicans, Salvadoreños.’” <<
​

And nice strawman swing-and-a-miss but I didn't say he called ALL Mexicans "rapists". Just the ones that migrate here.
The ones Mexico, as he put it "sends". As if it's some national military-style draft.

You are trying really hard not to exaggerate what Trump said. Now is that what he said, think and be truthful


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[Pogo]

I didn't vote for Trump in the primaries. I voted for Kasich out of solidarity. But if he does make it as our nominee, of course I will vote for him. No, I don't think he's the best qualified to run the country, but I'm sick of professional politicians too.

On that basis, I'd think your second choice should be Ted Cruz, seeing as how he's got less experience in government that almost anybody who's ever run for the office.

 

[Fang]

Trump is correct. The President's first priority is to protect Americans.

 

[Slyhunter]

Why do we have troops in Germany? They can defend themselves. Do they not have their own army?

 

[bripat9643]

BraVO Madge --- finally figured out what the topic is. It was like pulling teeth.

Of course in one sentence you reverted to HDS. Oh well, a flash in the pan. Stopped clock syndrome.

Bite me, bitch..............if you think that you can sway people to support Hitlery because you attack Trump? All I can say is good luck with all that.

There is no difference between Trump sand Hillary,

HIs world view is completely different. HIs policies are complete opposite.

Hillary will give the illegals amnesty. Trump will deport them AND their anchor babies.

If that was true the Trump wouldn't have given her so much money.....

Businessmen and corporations don't donate money to politicians because they agree with them, but because they have to prevent the power of government from being turned against them.

The difference in policies is real.

True. Campaign contributions are the ransom they pay to the devil.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I didn't vote for Trump in the primaries. I voted for Kasich out of solidarity. But if he does make it as our nominee, of course I will vote for him. No, I don't think he's the best qualified to run the country, but I'm sick of professional politicians too.

On that basis, I'd think your second choice should be Ted Cruz, seeing as how he's got less experience in government that almost anybody who's ever run for the office.

Correct, as long as it isn't Hillary is what really counts. The last thing I want to see in this country is our firearm rights ruled not protected by our constitution. The criminals would have a heyday.