In Leftist Land, a Lie is as good as gold

[Darkwind]

One doesn't need to be correct with a lie.

One doesn't need facts to lie

One doesn't need any supporting data to lie

Once the lie is out, it ain't ever coming back

It's why leftist lie about everything, there are no repercussions, zip.

It's why they lie about Trump's supposed lies. They never say what the lie is, but that that is all he does. The throw it out there and let it hit the airwaves philosophy.

The Left, the Wall, the Truth | RealClearPolitics
The Left Lies about Trump-Russia Collusion | National Review
One Year Later, The Left’s Net Neutrality Lies Look Even Dumber

Classic projection

Projection ; the unconscious transfer of one's desires or emotions to another person. ... The person accusing you also could be a narcissist. They often accusepeople of doing things that they themselves are doing as a form of deflecting To control the conversation. It can be a form of abuse.

Trump has made over 1900 false claims

Why Narcissists And Gaslighters Blatantly Lie -- And Get Away With It

In a tweet, Donald Trump wrote, “I never called Meghan Markle ‘nasty’. [sic] Made up by the Fake News Media…” He then goes on to ask if CNN and The New York Times will apologize to him. However, there are audio recordings by the Sun showing that he did, in fact, refer to Markle as "nasty." Trump's lying should come as a surprise to no one at this point.

This is why you and the left are liars.

He says, "I never called Markle 'nasty'. then you spout the Sun saying, he referred to her as 'nasty'. This is a twisting of context, but more importantly, he was responding to the assertion that the interviewer made that she acted nasty. His response was, "I didn't know she acted nasty". It goes on from there, with careful parsing of words to get the desired amount of outrage.

Try again.

I truly don't care one iota about what he said. I believe he behaves like a tacky, vulgar prick and talks like a complete moron. He's been this way for decades. Nothing has changed. The lies are simply insult to injury.

I too don't give a shingle shit about what he says. I care about what he does with regard to what he said he would do.

So far, he has kept to his word, done some good in those things that still need working on, and has shown he easily caves when faced with the power of the House, even though he was in the right.

Right now, the left whine like little girls not because he is vulgar or because he is ill spoken and does not carry the brainwashing of the left, but because he is actually getting things done and turning this country, if not into a right-leaning country, at least stopped the lurching to the left.

I call out the hypocrisy and double standard being applied by the left and will continue to do so until they either stop it, or I pass away.

Nothing on this planet will change My mind in that regard.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

So far, he has kept to his word

Not on releasing his taxes, not on repealing ObamaCare, not on infrastructure. This is a Cult45 talking point, not truth.

done some good in those things that still need working on, and has shown he easily caves when faced with the power of the House, even though he was in the right.

Long on description, short on details. More talking points.

Right now, the left whine like little girls not because he is vulgar or because he is ill spoken and does not carry the brainwashing of the left, but because he is actually getting things done and turning this country, if not into a right-leaning country, at least stopped the lurching to the left.

Well, he is vulgar and ill-spoken, and 'getting things done' is more dazzling bullshit from Cult45. And the white males in Cult45 are whining like little girls orchestrating a fake persecution complex because they don't feel special anymore. Biggest bunch of snowflakes on the planet that deserve nothing.

Nothing on this planet will change My mind in that regard.

I know. I have little interest in changing the minds of the deranged.

 

[sealybobo]

One doesn't need to be correct with a lie.

One doesn't need facts to lie

One doesn't need any supporting data to lie

Once the lie is out, it ain't ever coming back

It's why leftist lie about everything, there are no repercussions, zip.

It's why they lie about Trump's supposed lies. They never say what the lie is, but that that is all he does. The throw it out there and let it hit the airwaves philosophy.

The Left, the Wall, the Truth | RealClearPolitics
The Left Lies about Trump-Russia Collusion | National Review
One Year Later, The Left’s Net Neutrality Lies Look Even Dumber

Classic projection

Projection ; the unconscious transfer of one's desires or emotions to another person. ... The person accusing you also could be a narcissist. They often accusepeople of doing things that they themselves are doing as a form of deflecting To control the conversation. It can be a form of abuse.

Trump has made over 1900 false claims

Why Narcissists And Gaslighters Blatantly Lie -- And Get Away With It

In a tweet, Donald Trump wrote, “I never called Meghan Markle ‘nasty’. [sic] Made up by the Fake News Media…” He then goes on to ask if CNN and The New York Times will apologize to him. However, there are audio recordings by the Sun showing that he did, in fact, refer to Markle as "nasty." Trump's lying should come as a surprise to no one at this point.

This is why you and the left are liars.

He says, "I never called Markle 'nasty'. then you spout the Sun saying, he referred to her as 'nasty'. This is a twisting of context, but more importantly, he was responding to the assertion that the interviewer made that she acted nasty. His response was, "I didn't know she acted nasty". It goes on from there, with careful parsing of words to get the desired amount of outrage.

Try again.

I truly don't care one iota about what he said. I believe he behaves like a tacky, vulgar prick and talks like a complete moron. He's been this way for decades. Nothing has changed. The lies are simply insult to injury.

I too don't give a shingle shit about what he says. I care about what he does with regard to what he said he would do.

So far, he has kept to his word, done some good in those things that still need working on, and has shown he easily caves when faced with the power of the House, even though he was in the right.

Right now, the left whine like little girls not because he is vulgar or because he is ill spoken and does not carry the brainwashing of the left, but because he is actually getting things done and turning this country, if not into a right-leaning country, at least stopped the lurching to the left.

I call out the hypocrisy and double standard being applied by the left and will continue to do so until they either stop it, or I pass away.

Nothing on this planet will change My mind in that regard.

Well you are already set in your ways. You probably already have your nest egg. Already get social security. You are probably comfortable financially.

Even though I am very comfortable financially I still can't get myself to join the dark side. I'm just not a douchebag. I still relate to workers because I made my fortune as a worker. I feel bad so many of my co-workers are struggling. But hey, if you vote for trickle down don't be surprised when you find out you're being peed on.

Meanwhile, you Republicans don't even realize how you're being played/manipulated and brainwashed. The got you all worked up over racism and gays and guns. Those are just distractions. And you are so brainwashed you vote for trickle down and you deny global warming because Fox/Rush tells you to.

And you think the media who distracts you with bs wedge issues like trannys in bathrooms and meanwhile

Big Business Keeps Winning at the Supreme Court

Most Americans pay attention to the Court only when it decides hot-button social or political issues like marriage equality, abortion, and immigration. As is often the case, however, this term the Court’s docket was packed with under-the-radar disputes with broad implications for business and the economy. So while Americans were debating whether the liberals or conservatives were winning, corporations and business interests were spending enormous resources to be sure that they came out once again on top.

The stage was set in the first case the justices heard, on whether businesses can require employees to go to arbitration over job complaints. Even though employees often are forced to agree to arbitration clauses—one company sent its employees an email announcing that anyone who did not quit would be “deemed to have accepted”—the Court ruled for the companies. By making it harder for employees to join together in collective or class actions to recover for things like unpaid wages, the ruling was a windfall for business likely worth billions.

The streak continued through the term, on issues ranging from price fixing to overtime for workers. One measure of the term’s business-friendly tilt is the eye-popping success rate of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the self-proclaimed “Voice of Business.” The Chamber filed briefs in 10 cases this term and won nine of them. The Chamber’s victories limited protections for whistleblowers, forced changes in the Securities and Exchange Commission, made water pollution suits more difficult to bring, and erected additional obstacles to class action suits against businesses.

Corporate interests even won big in a number of cases that don’t appear at first to implicate business. A case striking down a federal ban on sports gambling was ostensibly about states’ rights and the powers of Congress, but the beneficiaries will include companies hitting the jackpot in the newly unfettered industry. A case requiring the government to obtain a warrant before tracking cell phones looks like a big win for personal privacy—but it will also bolster the arguments of tech companies looking to insulate themselves from government oversight.

The Court’s ruling last week that crisis-pregnancy centers can’t be compelled to post notices about the availability of abortion gives businesses a powerful new weapon in their fight against mandatory disclosure requirements in the workplace and on product labels. Now, state-compelled disclosures about “controversial” topics will be deemed inherently suspect—a new doctrine that greatly expands the First Amendment rights of corporations.

Indeed, corporations were among the primary beneficiaries of several of this term’s major First Amendment decisions. Although commentators called the justices’ decision in favor of the religiously-motivated baker who refused to sell a wedding cake to a same-sex couple “narrow,” the ruling was nevertheless a big win for corporations. Although the baker was the one with the religious views, the justices allowed his company, Masterpiece Cakeshop, Ltd., to claim the same First Amendment protections. Don’t be surprised when businesses cite this decision in the future when they refuse to fill contraceptive prescriptions.

And the landmark First Amendment case striking down “fair share” fees for public employee unions will reverberate in the private marketplace too. Public employee unions often push wages higher in the private sector as well, and if public employee unions are decimated, the entire working class suffers. Companies, however, benefit from being able to pay lower wages.

When former Bush administration Solicitor General Paul Clement appeared early this year on behalf of a foreign bank that had allegedly laundered payments to terrorists, he argued that corporations cannot be held liable for human rights violations in U.S. courts. At oral argument, Justice Elena Kagan asked whether corporations would be liable if they used “slave labor ... in the United States.” Clement admitted it was a “tough hypothetical” but that corporations would still be immune from accountability under international law in U.S. courts.

If that seems like an audacious argument, Clement nonetheless won his case. In this term, like most, big business won nearly all of theirs.

 

[strollingbones]

oddly enough being called a liar by a trump supporter is just bitchin funny

 

[mudwhistle]

Winning elections is so important to fuckers like you that you're willing to destroy the country you're living in to bring Socialism, and in the process kill off a bunch of old white people with more God-Damned sense than you'll ever have.

You sound completely deranged. And you are proving sealy's point.

The truth when comes to Democrats is pretty deranged. It's the slow creep of Socialism. Eventually they can make any inhuman policy sound like a necessity.

You don't even understand the meaning of the word. America is nowhere near having a socialistic government. It won't become one if a Democrat is elected in 2020. I'm so tired of the made up, non stop hyperbolic fear mongering from Cult45. Deranged absolutely fits. Plus, I can't stop laughing at your scared nonsense.

Once they screw up the system to the point they planned....they'll offer Socialism as a solution......and you won't have a choice in the matter.

 

[mudwhistle]

Yes, even if a person doesn't realize they are doing it, it is still a lie. Facts don't change; insistent belief in a lie is a symptom of severe mental illness, but it doesn't change the truth.

I'm not sure I agree with that.

A lie is knowingly telling a falsehood. Saying something you know not to be true. My point is that if a person is deluded, they may be convincing themselves in real time that what they are saying is true. That's not a lie, really. If you really think what you're saying is true, you're not lying.

I'm serious about that. Now, personally, I think someone who is deluded is significantly more dangerous than someone who is just lying.

If a person truly, honestly thinks that they're sitting in a room with Abraham Lincoln and they tell you so, that's not lying.
.

Some lies are more damaging than others.

"You can keep your doctor" turned out to be terribly damaging.
All of these lies about Russian Collusion is damaging the fabric of this country.
Saying that Trump is a racist because he wants a wall is damaging.
All of the lies about who really won the popular vote on election night is damaging.

But Trump said the Obama Administration was spying on him. You claim that's a lie. Turns out it was true.

Trump said Muslims were cheering in the streets on 911. Turns out they were.

Exactly which lie by Trump caused more damage than the lies by the media over Russian Collusion and over immigration???

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Winning elections is so important to fuckers like you that you're willing to destroy the country you're living in to bring Socialism, and in the process kill off a bunch of old white people with more God-Damned sense than you'll ever have.

You sound completely deranged. And you are proving sealy's point.

The truth when comes to Democrats is pretty deranged. It's the slow creep of Socialism. Eventually they can make any inhuman policy sound like a necessity.

You don't even understand the meaning of the word. America is nowhere near having a socialistic government. It won't become one if a Democrat is elected in 2020. I'm so tired of the made up, non stop hyperbolic fear mongering from Cult45. Deranged absolutely fits. Plus, I can't stop laughing at your scared nonsense.

Once they screw up the system to the point they planned....they'll offer Socialism as a solution......and you won't have a choice in the matter.

That's quite a yarn.

 

[Mac1958]

Yes, even if a person doesn't realize they are doing it, it is still a lie. Facts don't change; insistent belief in a lie is a symptom of severe mental illness, but it doesn't change the truth.

I'm not sure I agree with that.

A lie is knowingly telling a falsehood. Saying something you know not to be true. My point is that if a person is deluded, they may be convincing themselves in real time that what they are saying is true. That's not a lie, really. If you really think what you're saying is true, you're not lying.

I'm serious about that. Now, personally, I think someone who is deluded is significantly more dangerous than someone who is just lying.

If a person truly, honestly thinks that they're sitting in a room with Abraham Lincoln and they tell you so, that's not lying.
.

Some lies are more damaging than others.

"You can keep your doctor" turned out to be terribly damaging.
All of these lies about Russian Collusion is damaging the fabric of this country.
Saying that Trump is a racist because he wants a wall is damaging.
All of the lies about who really won the popular vote on election night is damaging.

But Trump said the Obama Administration was spying on him. You claim that's a lie. Turns out it was true.

Trump said Muslims were cheering in the streets on 911. Turns out they were.

Exactly which lie by Trump caused more damage than the lies by the media over Russian Collusion and over immigration???

You quoted a post in which I said I'm not so sure he's actually lying.

Political lies, political distortion and political intellectual dishonesty fly all around us from both ends every single day. They're all counter-productive, they all can be destructive, they all make things worse. And since I regularly point that out, I take incoming from both ends every day. Happily.

I honestly don't know if Trump is any more of a liar than anyone else. I do believe that virtually nothing he says can be believed, whether he's lying, stretching the truth, trolling, or simply delusional. And I believe he suffers from narcissistic personality disorder, histrionic personality disorder, or some combination therein. And I mean that literally.

One of his own supporters told us that we're supposed to "take him seriously, but not literally". One of his own supporters. You can spin that all you want.

The one thing that is worse and more disturbing than his behavior is the blind obedience of his flock.
.

 

[Hale]

One of his own supporters told us that we're supposed to "take him seriously, but not literally". One of his own supporters. You can spin that all you want.

The one thing that is worse and more disturbing than his behavior is the blind obedience of his flock.

I notice you don't credit any particular "supporter" with your quote... You're also assuming some "flock" exists, but it's only in your imagination. It's a construct, fed to you by CNN etc giving you an impression of the average Trump supporter that you enjoy, nothing more, and nothing factual.

And in truth, the closest thing to your quote was in fact made by your very own darling AOC:
"If people want to really blow up one figure here or one word there, I would argue that they're missing the forest for the trees," she said. I think that there's a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right."

 

[Mac1958]

One of his own supporters told us that we're supposed to "take him seriously, but not literally". One of his own supporters. You can spin that all you want.

The one thing that is worse and more disturbing than his behavior is the blind obedience of his flock.

I notice you don't credit any particular "supporter" with your quote... You're also assuming some "flock" exists, but it's only in your imagination. It's a construct, fed to you by CNN etc giving you an impression of the average Trump supporter that you enjoy, nothing more, and nothing factual.

And in truth, the closest thing to your quote was in fact made by your very own darling AOC:
"If people want to really blow up one figure here or one word there, I would argue that they're missing the forest for the trees," she said. I think that there's a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right."

Right on cue.
.

 

[jc456]

oddly enough being called a liar by a trump supporter is just bitchin funny

what's the irony in that? you can't post one trump lie, can you? should we call you Polly?

 

[Third Party]

One doesn't need to be correct with a lie.

One doesn't need facts to lie

One doesn't need any supporting data to lie

Once the lie is out, it ain't ever coming back

It's why leftist lie about everything, there are no repercussions, zip.

It's why they lie about Trump's supposed lies. They never say what the lie is, but that that is all he does. The throw it out there and let it hit the airwaves philosophy.

The Left, the Wall, the Truth | RealClearPolitics
The Left Lies about Trump-Russia Collusion | National Review
One Year Later, The Left’s Net Neutrality Lies Look Even Dumber

Classic projection

Projection ; the unconscious transfer of one's desires or emotions to another person. ... The person accusing you also could be a narcissist. They often accusepeople of doing things that they themselves are doing as a form of deflecting To control the conversation. It can be a form of abuse.

Trump has made over 1900 false claims

Why Narcissists And Gaslighters Blatantly Lie -- And Get Away With It

In a tweet, Donald Trump wrote, “I never called Meghan Markle ‘nasty’. [sic] Made up by the Fake News Media…” He then goes on to ask if CNN and The New York Times will apologize to him. However, there are audio recordings by the Sun showing that he did, in fact, refer to Markle as "nasty." Trump's lying should come as a surprise to no one at this point.

No, when he does it, it is called altering reality. Being president, he has that power.

He most certainly does not.

And yet he did. Look at our conversation.

 

[Hale]

One of his own supporters told us that we're supposed to "take him seriously, but not literally". One of his own supporters. You can spin that all you want.

The one thing that is worse and more disturbing than his behavior is the blind obedience of his flock.

I notice you don't credit any particular "supporter" with your quote... You're also assuming some "flock" exists, but it's only in your imagination. It's a construct, fed to you by CNN etc giving you an impression of the average Trump supporter that you enjoy, nothing more, and nothing factual.

And in truth, the closest thing to your quote was in fact made by your very own darling AOC:
"If people want to really blow up one figure here or one word there, I would argue that they're missing the forest for the trees," she said. I think that there's a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right."

Right on cue.
.

I accept your surrender. Please think before you post again.

 

[Siete]

oddly enough being called a liar by a trump supporter is just bitchin funny

what's the irony in that? you can't post one trump lie, can you? should we call you Polly?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/

President
Trump has made 10,111
false or misleading claims

 

[Mac1958]

One of his own supporters told us that we're supposed to "take him seriously, but not literally". One of his own supporters. You can spin that all you want.

The one thing that is worse and more disturbing than his behavior is the blind obedience of his flock.

I notice you don't credit any particular "supporter" with your quote... You're also assuming some "flock" exists, but it's only in your imagination. It's a construct, fed to you by CNN etc giving you an impression of the average Trump supporter that you enjoy, nothing more, and nothing factual.

And in truth, the closest thing to your quote was in fact made by your very own darling AOC:
"If people want to really blow up one figure here or one word there, I would argue that they're missing the forest for the trees," she said. I think that there's a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right."

Right on cue.
.

I accept your surrender. Please think before you post again.

You've gotta be kidding me.

Okay. You're a good and obedient sheep. Thanks.
.

 

[mudwhistle]

Winning elections is so important to fuckers like you that you're willing to destroy the country you're living in to bring Socialism, and in the process kill off a bunch of old white people with more God-Damned sense than you'll ever have.

You sound completely deranged. And you are proving sealy's point.

The truth when comes to Democrats is pretty deranged. It's the slow creep of Socialism. Eventually they can make any inhuman policy sound like a necessity.

You don't even understand the meaning of the word. America is nowhere near having a socialistic government. It won't become one if a Democrat is elected in 2020. I'm so tired of the made up, non stop hyperbolic fear mongering from Cult45. Deranged absolutely fits. Plus, I can't stop laughing at your scared nonsense.

Once they screw up the system to the point they planned....they'll offer Socialism as a solution......and you won't have a choice in the matter.

That's quite a yarn.

And you're quite gullible.

 

[Coyote]

One doesn't need to be correct with a lie.

One doesn't need facts to lie

One doesn't need any supporting data to lie

Once the lie is out, it ain't ever coming back

It's why leftist lie about everything, there are no repercussions, zip.

It's why they lie about Trump's supposed lies. They never say what the lie is, but that that is all he does. The throw it out there and let it hit the airwaves philosophy.

The Left, the Wall, the Truth | RealClearPolitics
The Left Lies about Trump-Russia Collusion | National Review
One Year Later, The Left’s Net Neutrality Lies Look Even Dumber

Trump has a clear record of pathological lies.

The right is delusional. No surprise there.

 

[otto105]

One doesn't need to be correct with a lie.

One doesn't need facts to lie

One doesn't need any supporting data to lie

Once the lie is out, it ain't ever coming back

It's why leftist lie about everything, there are no repercussions, zip.

It's why they lie about Trump's supposed lies. They never say what the lie is, but that that is all he does. The throw it out there and let it hit the airwaves philosophy.

The Left, the Wall, the Truth | RealClearPolitics
The Left Lies about Trump-Russia Collusion | National Review
One Year Later, The Left’s Net Neutrality Lies Look Even Dumber

What about 10,011+ of them?

Still not enough?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"In Leftist Land, a Lie is as good as gold "

This is a lie.

 

[mudwhistle]

oddly enough being called a liar by a trump supporter is just bitchin funny

Being called a liar by a Democrat or a liberal is even more funny.