"Income Inequality": So What?

[Moonglow]

If an American citizen is outraged about the phenomenon of "income inequality," then that citizen should do everything in her power to communicate to those at the bottom to (1) stop the self-destructive life choices (having illegitimate children, alcohol and drug abuse, welfare dependency, dropping out of school), (2) take advantage of free public education and other means of improving oneself, and (3) follow the example of many generations of immigrants who started with nothing and achieved success by hard work.

I lack sympathy for people who were truant and discipline problems in school, and who have illegitimate children whom they raise on welfare.

Nevertheless, some of the hardest working people in the United States are also desperately poor. Our economy is simply not generating good jobs for people of average or below average intelligence.

there are those jobs out there, I got alot of work at once in June and put and d in the paper for unskilled labor at 9 an hour. No one that called showed.

 

[Intense]

The United States has always had programs helping its poor, its disabled and so on.
The United States has always had programs helping industry, businesses and so on.
The United States has always had programs helping all its citizens.
At time the United States has had programs helping foreign nations.

I suspect we have always resented these programs that helped others.

When they are frivolous or beyond our means, yes. What kind of behavior would you reward or promote?

 

[Intense]

The United States has always had programs helping its poor, its disabled and so on.
The United States has always had programs helping industry, businesses and so on.
The United States has always had programs helping all its citizens.
At time the United States has had programs helping foreign nations.

I suspect we have always resented these programs that helped others.

why would anyone resent helping others?

We each have our preferences and limit to what we do.

 

[Moonglow]

The United States has always had programs helping its poor, its disabled and so on.
The United States has always had programs helping industry, businesses and so on.
The United States has always had programs helping all its citizens.
At time the United States has had programs helping foreign nations.

I suspect we have always resented these programs that helped others.

No it has not.this type of help did not start until the 1930's, before if you got help it was through missionaries or donations from people.
Business has recieved help from the government, but it was very limited.

 

[Katzndogz]

I went to the LA Art Walk where they were protesting inequality of talent. It opens up a whole new dimension of inequality.

how does that work?

"You have to like my art over his because, even though his is much better I might cry and you're not allowed to hurt my feelings"? Is that how it works.

Jackson Pollock my arse...my 10 year old could paint better than him..

Scrawling Kill the Pigs on the sidewalk with chalk is just as important as the sculpture next to it. It's equal and should be regarded as equal. No one should pay to have any painting or work of art. It's all free, like the chalk. If art is speech, isn't speech "free". So why is anyone charging.

It was actually a major protest trying to force the people who live in the area out. That was the big complaint. People are moving in, renovating and opening the hated businesses that actually charge money.

 

[Moonglow]

I say people that need help should ge tit. The healthy ones should work for it.

 

[thereisnospoon]

To the Libs reading this I ask: First, why is "income inequality" a problem? Second, What would you suggest as a solution? Third, What gives Government the power or the right to effect this solution? (Please refer to the United States Constitution)

First, I think the degree of economic inequality in the United States is a problem because I perceive of little moral significance in the distribution of wealth and income.

Second, I would like to reduce economic inequality using the means that seem to work in Scandinavia. These include steeply progressive taxation, high minimum wage laws, strong labor unions, and a well financed public sector of the economy.

Third, the following passages in the United States Constitution authorize what I recommend in the previous paragraph:

The Constitution of the United States

Preamble

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America...

Article I, Section 8: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States...

Amendment 16: The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

If you think Sweden's system is perfect, by all means pack your things and move there.
And do not twist and bend the US Constitution to suit your needs.
Taxation is not intended for liberals to use as a means to get even or to punish.
If you agree with Art 1 Sec 8 you must agree with ALL of it's parts. Not just the ones you believe support your position.

 

[thereisnospoon]

I say people that need help should ge tit. The healthy ones should work for it.

From each according to his ability.
To each according to his needs?

Maxism is a FAIL.

 

[Full-Auto]

The term general welfare pertains to the welfare of the nation, not that people get a check every month. A practice, which if continued, would impoverish the nation.

Too Late.............


No worries we only ADDED an additional 900 billion to the RED this year, with three months to go.

 

[Againsheila]

To the Libs reading this I ask: First, why is "income inequality" a problem? Second, What would you suggest as a solution? Third, What gives Government the power or the right to effect this solution? (Please refer to the United States Constitution)

First, I think the degree of economic inequality in the United States is a problem because I perceive of little moral significance in the distribution of wealth and income.

Second, I would like to reduce economic inequality using the means that seem to work in Scandinavia. These include steeply progressive taxation, high minimum wage laws, strong labor unions, and a well financed public sector of the economy.

Third, the following passages in the United States Constitution authorize what I recommend in the previous paragraph:

The Constitution of the United States

Preamble

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America...

Article I, Section 8: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States...

Amendment 16: The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

If you think Sweden's system is perfect, by all means pack your things and move there.
And do not twist and bend the US Constitution to suit your needs.
Taxation is not intended for liberals to use as a means to get even or to punish.
If you agree with Art 1 Sec 8 you must agree with ALL of it's parts. Not just the ones you believe support your position.

People keep saying things like that but the truth is, ours is the only country that takes in unskilled or low-skilled labor to compete with their own citizens. Heck some won't even take us if we're over 40. We take everybody and then our working class supports them until they die....

 

[Friends]

I think you would do better paying for your own Cell Phone, Cable, Subway ride, and Insurance, rather than contribute and encourage further misuse and corruption. Living within ones own means should extend to Government. Sorry to disagree, but when the Power is in your own pocket, wallet, or purse, you are more prudent with how you decide to spend it, compared to an out of control Government, void of Conscience.

The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

- John Kenneth Galbraith

 

[Friends]

If you think Sweden's system is perfect, by all means pack your things and move there.
And do not twist and bend the US Constitution to suit your needs.
Taxation is not intended for liberals to use as a means to get even or to punish.
If you agree with Art 1 Sec 8 you must agree with ALL of it's parts. Not just the ones you believe support your position.

The argument that I should move to Sweden is the argument that I always get when I refute the argument that, "Socialism has always failed in every country where it has been tried."

In Scandinavia what right wing Americans claim does not work works fine.

The U.S. Constitution is vaguely worded and open to various interpretations. Basically it is nothing more than a guide book on how to run a democratic government. During the 1950s the top tax rate never got below 91 percent. There was nothing un Constitutional about that. For most Americans those were good years.

 

[Fordsflylow]

To the Libs reading this I ask: First, why is "income inequality" a problem? Second, What would you suggest as a solution? Third, What gives Government the power or the right to effect this solution? (Please refer to the United States Constitution)

First, I think the degree of economic inequality in the United States is a problem because I perceive of little moral significance in the distribution of wealth and income.

Second, I would like to reduce economic inequality using the means that seem to work in Scandinavia. These include steeply progressive taxation, high minimum wage laws, strong labor unions, and a well financed public sector of the economy.

Third, the following passages in the United States Constitution authorize what I recommend in the previous paragraph:

The Constitution of the United States

Preamble

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America...

Article I, Section 8: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States...

Amendment 16: The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

I think you would do better paying for your own Cell Phone, Cable, Subway ride, and Insurance, rather than contribute and encourage further misuse and corruption. Living within ones own means should extend to Government. Sorry to disagree, but when the Power is in your own pocket, wallet, or purse, you are more prudent with how you decide to spend it, compared to an out of control Government, void of Conscience.

When there is less and less $ in the working classes pocket when compared to the upper 10% that idea goes out the window.

 

[Fordsflylow]

The term general welfare pertains to the welfare of the nation, not that people get a check every month. A practice, which if continued, would impoverish the nation.

So, let me get this straight. According to YOU that's how the Constitution reads, and then YOU think anyone who happens to be poor should just fend for themselves? Best watch out for what one wishes cause you just might get it. I guarantee if you had the rug pulled out from under you you'd be looking to the govt, that we've all paid taxes too, to help you in your time of need. I believe that is good for the general welfare of this nation.

 

[Fordsflylow]

The United States has always had programs helping its poor, its disabled and so on.
The United States has always had programs helping industry, businesses and so on.
The United States has always had programs helping all its citizens.
At time the United States has had programs helping foreign nations.

I suspect we have always resented these programs that helped others.

why would anyone resent helping others?

My guess would be some need someone to blame for their woes and it is easy for some to blame someone anyone less fortunate.

 

[Fordsflylow]

The United States has always had programs helping its poor, its disabled and so on.
The United States has always had programs helping industry, businesses and so on.
The United States has always had programs helping all its citizens.
At time the United States has had programs helping foreign nations.

I suspect we have always resented these programs that helped others.

No it has not.this type of help did not start until the 1930's, before if you got help it was through missionaries or donations from people.
Business has recieved help from the government, but it was very limited.

...and how'd that work out!?! I don't see where it worked out so good, but then I'm sure you have a different take on it right!?!

 

[squeeze berry]

I think you would do better paying for your own Cell Phone, Cable, Subway ride, and Insurance, rather than contribute and encourage further misuse and corruption. Living within ones own means should extend to Government. Sorry to disagree, but when the Power is in your own pocket, wallet, or purse, you are more prudent with how you decide to spend it, compared to an out of control Government, void of Conscience.

The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

- John Kenneth Galbraith

so isn't stealing from those that work and giving to those that don't a form of selfishness too?

 

[Fordsflylow]

How the hell do you figure?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

US government is the most selfish organization on the planet and has no respect for the taxpayer

 

[Fordsflylow]

The govt has become the long arm of the mega-corporations that pay little in taxes if any. Were you REALLY expecting another result?