Incompetent border security...

[Rustic]

I go down there four or five times a year to shoot hogs from helicopters… I see no border security whatsoever

 

[Rustic]

Yep, in reality we have no southern border... It’s fucking embarrassing

Trump knows this to be true, That is why he is pushing so hard for the wall. Our border security is a fucking joke and a mass

Why don’t you go down there, buy a bunch of drugs and try to comeback without an ID. Let’s see how you do.

You’re s funny guy...are you implying that our border is secure?
How many other taxpayer funded and run countries are inhabited by tens of millions of illegal ALIENS?

I’m not implying it’s secure. Security is never going to full proof and can always be improved. I was implying that Rustic is full of shit.

He’s actually spot on...I’ve been to the border...have you?
This is what the border looks like in Jacumba, CA (east San Diego)

A cripple in a wheelchair could cross that

 

[The Irish Ram]

The reason the liberals want the border funds to go to security instead of a wall is because as soon as they get the opportunity, they will abolish the security ( ICE ). They wouldn't be able to demolish an actual wall without extreme reaction from the citizenry.
The Dems think they are pulling a fast one.

 

[Slade3200]

Yep, in reality we have no southern border... It’s fucking embarrassing

Trump knows this to be true, That is why he is pushing so hard for the wall. Our border security is a fucking joke and a mass

Why don’t you go down there, buy a bunch of drugs and try to comeback without an ID. Let’s see how you do.

You’re s funny guy...are you implying that our border is secure?
How many other taxpayer funded and run countries are inhabited by tens of millions of illegal ALIENS?

I’m not implying it’s secure. Security is never going to full proof and can always be improved. I was implying that Rustic is full of shit.

He’s actually spot on...I’ve been to the border...have you?
This is what the border looks like in Jacumba, CA (east San Diego)

Yes, I lived in San Diego for 5 years and took many trips to Mexico. That’s a nice photo of a fence, why don’t you do my challenge. Go to Mexico, lose your ID, buy some drugs, and go find that fence to hop over. Should be easy enough and documenting that journey would do much more to progress your cause than ranting on an Internet forum

 

[Rustic]

Doesn't sound like incompetence to me, it sounds more like being understaffed. And what the eff is going on with the polygraph administrators. From the OP's link:

Two out of three applicants to CBP fail its polygraph test, according to the agency. That's more than double the average rate of eight law enforcement agencies that provided data to the Associated Press under open-records requests.

It's a big reason approximately 2,000 jobs at the nation's largest law enforcement agency are empty, with the Border Patrol, a part of CBP, recently slipping below 20,000 agents for the first time since 2009. And it has raised questions of whether the lie detector tests are being properly administered.

CBP Commissioner Gil Kerlikowske said the failure rate is too high, but that is largely because the agency hasn't attracted the applicants it wants. He and other law enforcement experts contend the polygraphs are generally working as intended at the agency, which has been trying to root out bribery and other corruption.

But others, including lawmakers, union leaders and polygraph experts, contend that the use of lie detectors has gone awry and that many applicants are being subjected to unusually long and hostile interrogations, which some say can make people look deceptive even when they are telling the truth.
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In December, the Homeland Security Department's inspector general said it was reviewing whether CBP's polygraph tests are effective in hiring. The hiring difficulties have become so acute that the Border Patrol recently took the unusual step of asking Congress to use money earmarked for 300 jobs for other purposes. That raises doubts about President-elect Donald Trump's pledge to add 5,000 agents.

Taking a polygraph test became a hiring requirement at CBP in 2012 after a huge hiring surge was followed by a similar surge in agents getting arrested for misconduct.

James Tomsheck said that when he was CBP's chief of internal affairs from 2006 to 2014, about 30 applicants admitted during the lie detector test that they were sent by drug cartels; one said he had killed his infant son.

One applicant revealed that his brother-in-law wanted him to smuggle cocaine on the job, and another said he used marijuana 9,000 times, including the night before his test, according to the Government Accountability Office.

Interviews with six of the applicants who failed to clear the polygraph test fit a pattern: The examiner abruptly changes tone, leveling accusations of lying or holding something back. The job-seeker denies it and the questioning goes in circles for hours. Some are invited for a second visit, which ends no differently.


It's good that they aren't hiring the wrong kind of people, it also sounds like some very good people are turned away.

The fact remains, The southern border security is jacked. Obviously it isn’t working.
Much like socialism trying the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is insanity

 

[BrokeLoser]

Doesn't sound like incompetence to me, it sounds more like being understaffed. And what the eff is going on with the polygraph administrators. From the OP's link:

Two out of three applicants to CBP fail its polygraph test, according to the agency. That's more than double the average rate of eight law enforcement agencies that provided data to the Associated Press under open-records requests.

It's a big reason approximately 2,000 jobs at the nation's largest law enforcement agency are empty, with the Border Patrol, a part of CBP, recently slipping below 20,000 agents for the first time since 2009. And it has raised questions of whether the lie detector tests are being properly administered.

CBP Commissioner Gil Kerlikowske said the failure rate is too high, but that is largely because the agency hasn't attracted the applicants it wants. He and other law enforcement experts contend the polygraphs are generally working as intended at the agency, which has been trying to root out bribery and other corruption.

But others, including lawmakers, union leaders and polygraph experts, contend that the use of lie detectors has gone awry and that many applicants are being subjected to unusually long and hostile interrogations, which some say can make people look deceptive even when they are telling the truth.
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In December, the Homeland Security Department's inspector general said it was reviewing whether CBP's polygraph tests are effective in hiring. The hiring difficulties have become so acute that the Border Patrol recently took the unusual step of asking Congress to use money earmarked for 300 jobs for other purposes. That raises doubts about President-elect Donald Trump's pledge to add 5,000 agents.

Taking a polygraph test became a hiring requirement at CBP in 2012 after a huge hiring surge was followed by a similar surge in agents getting arrested for misconduct.

James Tomsheck said that when he was CBP's chief of internal affairs from 2006 to 2014, about 30 applicants admitted during the lie detector test that they were sent by drug cartels; one said he had killed his infant son.

One applicant revealed that his brother-in-law wanted him to smuggle cocaine on the job, and another said he used marijuana 9,000 times, including the night before his test, according to the Government Accountability Office.

Interviews with six of the applicants who failed to clear the polygraph test fit a pattern: The examiner abruptly changes tone, leveling accusations of lying or holding something back. The job-seeker denies it and the questioning goes in circles for hours. Some are invited for a second visit, which ends no differently.


It's good that they aren't hiring the wrong kind of people, but it also sounds like some very good people are turned away.

Their targeted applicant is one barely legal, an anchor baby...nobody should be surprised that they can’t pass a basic polygraph exam.

 

[Rustic]

Yep, in reality we have no southern border... It’s fucking embarrassing

Trump knows this to be true, That is why he is pushing so hard for the wall. Our border security is a fucking joke and a mass

Why don’t you go down there, buy a bunch of drugs and try to comeback without an ID. Let’s see how you do.

You’re s funny guy...are you implying that our border is secure?
How many other taxpayer funded and run countries are inhabited by tens of millions of illegal ALIENS?

I’m not implying it’s secure. Security is never going to full proof and can always be improved. I was implying that Rustic is full of shit.

He’s actually spot on...I’ve been to the border...have you?
This is what the border looks like in Jacumba, CA (east San Diego)

Yes, I lived in San Diego for 5 years and took many trips to Mexico. That’s a nice photo of a fence, why don’t you do my challenge. Go to Mexico, lose your ID, buy some drugs, and go find that fence to hop over. Should be easy enough and documenting that journey would do much more to progress your cause than ranting on an Internet forum

This represents most of the southern border, if you can call it that... lol

 

[Slade3200]

I think you have no clue what you are talking about and you turn into a big gaping vagina when it comes to putting your money where your mouth is. Can’t say I’m surprised.

Our southern border security sucks... no two ways about it.

It sucks so much we have no southern border anymore

Then go down there and try to come back without an ID. Video tape it and share it with the world. Come on dipshit. Walk the walk and make a difference.

Lol
So you’re saying illegal aliens do not cross the border… That’s the best joke I’ve heard all day

No I’m not saying that at all. Where did you read that?

So obviously we do not have a secure border

Nothing is fully secure. So no, the border is not secure and guess what... Build 30 walls and set up land mines and it still won’t be secure.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Yep, in reality we have no southern border... It’s fucking embarrassing

Trump knows this to be true, That is why he is pushing so hard for the wall. Our border security is a fucking joke and a mass

Why don’t you go down there, buy a bunch of drugs and try to comeback without an ID. Let’s see how you do.

You’re s funny guy...are you implying that our border is secure?
How many other taxpayer funded and run countries are inhabited by tens of millions of illegal ALIENS?

I’m not implying it’s secure. Security is never going to full proof and can always be improved. I was implying that Rustic is full of shit.

He’s actually spot on...I’ve been to the border...have you?
This is what the border looks like in Jacumba, CA (east San Diego)

Yes, I lived in San Diego for 5 years and took many trips to Mexico. That’s a nice photo of a fence, why don’t you do my challenge. Go to Mexico, lose your ID, buy some drugs, and go find that fence to hop over. Should be easy enough and documenting that journey would do much more to progress your cause than ranting on an Internet forum

Hilarious....rather than stand beside your fellow countrymen and display outrage over how fucked up our border security is you prefer to mock those good real Americans who actually care...I’m sure you’re an awesome American Patriot...I bet your father and grandfather would be fucking proud.

 

[Rustic]

 

[Rustic]

Our southern border security sucks... no two ways about it.

It sucks so much we have no southern border anymore

Then go down there and try to come back without an ID. Video tape it and share it with the world. Come on dipshit. Walk the walk and make a difference.

Lol
So you’re saying illegal aliens do not cross the border… That’s the best joke I’ve heard all day

No I’m not saying that at all. Where did you read that?

So obviously we do not have a secure border

Nothing is fully secure. So no, the border is not secure and guess what... Build 30 walls and set up land mines and it still won’t be secure.

Our so-called southern border is a fucking joke… No two ways about it

 

[task0778]

I hate to turn this into another political argument, but I wonder if some of the people administering the polygraph tests are lib/dems who are deliberately trying to reduce the number of agents, and thereby allowing more illegals to come across the border. I realize that's kind of out there, but when you have twice the number of failures over the other federal agencies then you gotta wonder WTF.

 

[Slade3200]

Why don’t you go down there, buy a bunch of drugs and try to comeback without an ID. Let’s see how you do.

You’re s funny guy...are you implying that our border is secure?
How many other taxpayer funded and run countries are inhabited by tens of millions of illegal ALIENS?

I’m not implying it’s secure. Security is never going to full proof and can always be improved. I was implying that Rustic is full of shit.

He’s actually spot on...I’ve been to the border...have you?
This is what the border looks like in Jacumba, CA (east San Diego)

Yes, I lived in San Diego for 5 years and took many trips to Mexico. That’s a nice photo of a fence, why don’t you do my challenge. Go to Mexico, lose your ID, buy some drugs, and go find that fence to hop over. Should be easy enough and documenting that journey would do much more to progress your cause than ranting on an Internet forum

This represents most of the southern border, if you can call it that... lol

Then go cross it without an ID! Posting little photos means nothing

 

[Rustic]

You’re s funny guy...are you implying that our border is secure?
How many other taxpayer funded and run countries are inhabited by tens of millions of illegal ALIENS?

I’m not implying it’s secure. Security is never going to full proof and can always be improved. I was implying that Rustic is full of shit.

He’s actually spot on...I’ve been to the border...have you?
This is what the border looks like in Jacumba, CA (east San Diego)

Yes, I lived in San Diego for 5 years and took many trips to Mexico. That’s a nice photo of a fence, why don’t you do my challenge. Go to Mexico, lose your ID, buy some drugs, and go find that fence to hop over. Should be easy enough and documenting that journey would do much more to progress your cause than ranting on an Internet forum

This represents most of the southern border, if you can call it that... lol

Then go cross it without an ID! Posting little photos means nothing

The vast majority of the border has no enforcement… San Diego does not represent the border generally

 

[Rustic]

I hate to turn this into another political argument, but I wonder if some of the people administering the polygraph tests are lib/dems who are deliberately trying to reduce the number of agents, and thereby allowing more illegals to come across the border. I realize that's kind of out there, but when you have twice the number of failures over the other federal agencies then you gotta wonder WTF.

The fact remains, Security at our southern border is a fucking joke all the way around.
To the point we don’t even have a real border

 

[BrokeLoser]

I hate to turn this into another political argument, but I wonder if some of the people administering the polygraph tests are lib/dems who are deliberately trying to reduce the number of agents, and thereby allowing more illegals to come across the border. I realize that's kind of out there, but when you have twice the number of failures over the other federal agencies then you gotta wonder WTF.

It would be naïve to think that isn’t a strong possibility.

 

[Slade3200]

Why don’t you go down there, buy a bunch of drugs and try to comeback without an ID. Let’s see how you do.

You’re s funny guy...are you implying that our border is secure?
How many other taxpayer funded and run countries are inhabited by tens of millions of illegal ALIENS?

I’m not implying it’s secure. Security is never going to full proof and can always be improved. I was implying that Rustic is full of shit.

He’s actually spot on...I’ve been to the border...have you?
This is what the border looks like in Jacumba, CA (east San Diego)

Yes, I lived in San Diego for 5 years and took many trips to Mexico. That’s a nice photo of a fence, why don’t you do my challenge. Go to Mexico, lose your ID, buy some drugs, and go find that fence to hop over. Should be easy enough and documenting that journey would do much more to progress your cause than ranting on an Internet forum

Hilarious....rather than stand beside your fellow countrymen and display outrage over how fucked up our border security is you prefer to mock those good real Americans who actually care...I’m sure you’re an awesome American Patriot...I bet your father and grandfather would be fucking proud.

Let me show you the irony that I hear from people like you. When groups like BLM and the NFL rally for reform in law enforcement you jump to blue lives matter and call them unamerican cop haters. But now with border security you dismiss all the hard work and effort our border agents and homeland security put in and call it worthless. That’s bullshit and I think you know it. They stop 1000s of people a month, so where is the respect? Then there are pussys like Rustic who y’all big but got no follow through. Go walk that border without an ID and them come complain. You won’t do it because you know you’ll get busted

 

[Slade3200]

Then go down there and try to come back without an ID. Video tape it and share it with the world. Come on dipshit. Walk the walk and make a difference.

Lol
So you’re saying illegal aliens do not cross the border… That’s the best joke I’ve heard all day

No I’m not saying that at all. Where did you read that?

So obviously we do not have a secure border

Nothing is fully secure. So no, the border is not secure and guess what... Build 30 walls and set up land mines and it still won’t be secure.

Our so-called southern border is a fucking joke… No two ways about it

You’re a joke... post another cartoon

 

[The VOR]

Yep, in reality we have no southern border... It’s fucking embarrassing

Trump knows this to be true, That is why he is pushing so hard for the wall. Our border security is a fucking joke and a mass

Why don’t you go down there, buy a bunch of drugs and try to comeback without an ID. Let’s see how you do.

I have been down there many times, the vast majority of the border is wide open and no one around

You've never been out of your mommy's basement, who are you kidding.

 

[BrokeLoser]

You’re s funny guy...are you implying that our border is secure?
How many other taxpayer funded and run countries are inhabited by tens of millions of illegal ALIENS?

I’m not implying it’s secure. Security is never going to full proof and can always be improved. I was implying that Rustic is full of shit.

He’s actually spot on...I’ve been to the border...have you?
This is what the border looks like in Jacumba, CA (east San Diego)

Yes, I lived in San Diego for 5 years and took many trips to Mexico. That’s a nice photo of a fence, why don’t you do my challenge. Go to Mexico, lose your ID, buy some drugs, and go find that fence to hop over. Should be easy enough and documenting that journey would do much more to progress your cause than ranting on an Internet forum

Hilarious....rather than stand beside your fellow countrymen and display outrage over how fucked up our border security is you prefer to mock those good real Americans who actually care...I’m sure you’re an awesome American Patriot...I bet your father and grandfather would be fucking proud.

Let me show you the irony that I hear from people like you. When groups like BLM and the NFL rally for reform in law enforcement you jump to blue lives matter and call them unamerican cop haters. But now with border security you dismiss all the hard work and effort our border agents and homeland security put in and call it worthless. That’s bullshit and I think you know it. They stop 1000s of people a month, so where is the respect? Then there are pussys like Rustic who y’all big but got no follow through. Go walk that border without an ID and them come complain. You won’t do it because you know you’ll get busted

How did you come up with all that? Nobody but you has badmouthed the agents themselves. The problem on the border is due to lack of funding and a lack of functional barriers.