Intelligence Committee member: This memo is just the beginning.

iamwhatiseem

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Very glad to hear this.
The problem with the memo is that it is somewhat weak without seeing the FISA application itself. This committee member said he is for declassifying the FISA application simply because there is nothing in it that needs to be classified. We are not talking top secret agents working in the field here - the only people identified is Steele, GPS and other known people of which none are classified.
Releasing the transcripts is what every single person - DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN - should want. It is the end all document that removes all politics.

LET"S SEE THE FISA APPLICATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This Intelligence Committee member is for the full release of that transcript rather than political memo's.
HOWEVER - he also stated that this memo, when it was written, no one knew it would be declassified. And all members of the committee, Democrats included, did not have issues with it. Only after it's release are those same individuals painting it as one-sided.
 
And more news......... Second committee member as well as Paul Ryan says the minority memo WILL BE RELEASED as soon as it is scrubbed of classified methods and classified individual names.
In other words, it is bullshit that Republicans are blocking the Democrat memo...it is already in the process of getting cleaned and will be released.
 
I think Steele ends up arrested over this, and then they go down the chain until all the conspirators are prosecuted.
 
I don't think anyone will get arrested.
My only hopes of this entire thing is that we all get to see that the FISA process needs improved. It is absolutely imperative that when American citizens are going to be investigated that the reasons behind that investigation is crystal clear and without political motive.
This memo, if accurate, shows that the FISA court was mislead and information that directly pertained to evidence they provided to the court was withheld for the sole purpose that it would negatively effect the likelihood of an approval of warrants.
 
I don't think anyone will get arrested.
My only hopes of this entire thing is that we all get to see that the FISA process needs improved. It is absolutely imperative that when American citizens are going to be investigated that the reasons behind that investigation is crystal clear and without political motive.
This memo, if accurate, shows that the FISA court was mislead and information that directly pertained to evidence they provided to the court was withheld for the sole purpose that it would negatively effect the likelihood of an approval of warrants.
Why was it misled when Page admitted to meeting with Russians in the summer of 16?

A former Trump campaign adviser said Page submitted policy memos to the campaign and several times asked to be given a meeting with Trump, though his request was never granted. “He was one of the more active ones, in terms of being in touch,” the adviser said.

The campaign adviser said Page participated in three dinners held for the campaign’s volunteer foreign policy advisers in the spring and summer of 2016, coming from New York to Washington to meet with the group. Although Trump did not attend, Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), a top Trump confidant who became his attorney general, attended one meeting of the group with Page in late summer, the campaign adviser said.

Page’s role as an adviser to the Trump campaign drew alarm last year from more-established foreign policy experts in part because of Page’s effusive praise for Russian President Vladimir Putin and his criticism of U.S. sanctions over Moscow’s military intervention in Ukraine.

In July, Page traveled to Moscow, where he delivered a speech harshly critical of the United States’ policy toward Russia.

While there, Page allegedly met with Igor Sechin, a Putin confidant and chief executive of the energy company Rosneft, according to a dossier compiled by a former British intelligence officer and cited at a congressional hearing by Rep. Adam B. Schiff (Calif.), the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee. Officials said some of the information in the dossier has been verified by U.S. intelligence agencies, and some of it hasn’t, while other parts are unlikely to ever be proved or disproved.
 
"While this memo raises serious concerns with the FISA process, I have been and remain confident in the overwhelming majority of the men and women serving at the FBI and DOJ." - Trey Gowdy
 
"While this memo raises serious concerns with the FISA process, I have been and remain confident in the overwhelming majority of the men and women serving at the FBI and DOJ." - Trey Gowdy

Not sure if you have a point with that?
 
Sad to see the Democrats forfeit the Republic and leap to the defense of the police-state after the release of the memo. Their true colors are now out there for all to see.
 
the memo is a political document selectively taking facts out of context in an effort to affect the thinking of lay people. It's not going to have any effect in making actual legal arguments. It's an attempt to give those who choose to believe Trump's done nothing wrong, without knowing all the facts, reason to continue their beliefs and even prepare them to disregard facts that may come to light telling a different story.

Even if you contend this investigation is politicized against Trump, you cannot logically argue this is anything but a pretty ham handed political stunt.

Trump may try to fire Mueller before Mueller completes his investigation, and imo that's what this is intended to set the stage for.
 
And more news......... Second committee member as well as Paul Ryan says the minority memo WILL BE RELEASED as soon as it is scrubbed of classified methods and classified individual names.
In other words, it is bullshit that Republicans are blocking the Democrat memo...it is already in the process of getting cleaned and will be released.
Good.

I want all the spin from both sides on the table so they are FORCED to release the underlying evidence!
 
The GOP Nothing-Burger ..

Devin Nunes Memo Is a Nothingburger

Served with "lies" on the side? :D

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"This memo is a dangerous and partisan stunt. Selectively releasing intelligence for attempted political gain is a Putin-esque tactic. Instead of attacking the FBI and DOJ, why not explain the Trump Tower meeting with Russians or try to defend POTUS attempts to obstruct justice." - Psycho Joe Scarborough
 
I don't think anyone will get arrested.
My only hopes of this entire thing is that we all get to see that the FISA process needs improved. It is absolutely imperative that when American citizens are going to be investigated that the reasons behind that investigation is crystal clear and without political motive.
This memo, if accurate, shows that the FISA court was mislead and information that directly pertained to evidence they provided to the court was withheld for the sole purpose that it would negatively effect the likelihood of an approval of warrants.

The Angry Tree Guy thinks everyone is gonna be locked up that he doesn't like.
Bold letters always prove his posts to be absolute truth ;)
 
"This memo is a dangerous and partisan stunt. Selectively releasing intelligence for attempted political gain is a Putin-esque tactic. Instead of attacking the FBI and DOJ, why not explain the Trump Tower meeting with Russians or try to defend POTUS attempts to obstruct justice." - Psycho Joe Scarborough

Yep - Joe nailed it!
 
Since no one wants to keep anything secret anymore, let's see detailed reports of the meetings between Russians and Trump campaign officials and clandestine meetings between people who currently work for Trump and Russians.

And why not his tax returns as well?
 
I don't think anyone will get arrested.
My only hopes of this entire thing is that we all get to see that the FISA process needs improved. It is absolutely imperative that when American citizens are going to be investigated that the reasons behind that investigation is crystal clear and without political motive.
This memo, if accurate, shows that the FISA court was mislead and information that directly pertained to evidence they provided to the court was withheld for the sole purpose that it would negatively effect the likelihood of an approval of warrants.
Why was it misled when Page admitted to meeting with Russians in the summer of 16?

A former Trump campaign adviser said Page submitted policy memos to the campaign and several times asked to be given a meeting with Trump, though his request was never granted. “He was one of the more active ones, in terms of being in touch,” the adviser said.

The campaign adviser said Page participated in three dinners held for the campaign’s volunteer foreign policy advisers in the spring and summer of 2016, coming from New York to Washington to meet with the group. Although Trump did not attend, Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), a top Trump confidant who became his attorney general, attended one meeting of the group with Page in late summer, the campaign adviser said.

Page’s role as an adviser to the Trump campaign drew alarm last year from more-established foreign policy experts in part because of Page’s effusive praise for Russian President Vladimir Putin and his criticism of U.S. sanctions over Moscow’s military intervention in Ukraine.

In July, Page traveled to Moscow, where he delivered a speech harshly critical of the United States’ policy toward Russia.

While there, Page allegedly met with Igor Sechin, a Putin confidant and chief executive of the energy company Rosneft, according to a dossier compiled by a former British intelligence officer and cited at a congressional hearing by Rep. Adam B. Schiff (Calif.), the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee. Officials said some of the information in the dossier has been verified by U.S. intelligence agencies, and some of it hasn’t, while other parts are unlikely to ever be proved or disproved.
Did Page receive hundreds of millions from the Russians like the Clinton's?
 
Keep up the heat, you guys. We need to demand that justice is served! This cannot be brushed off and allowed to be replaced in the news cycle by so and so dating a trans-whatever. We deserve to see people pay for this abuse of power!
 
Very glad to hear this.
The problem with the memo is that it is somewhat weak without seeing the FISA application itself. This committee member said he is for declassifying the FISA application simply because there is nothing in it that needs to be classified. We are not talking top secret agents working in the field here - the only people identified is Steele, GPS and other known people of which none are classified.
Releasing the transcripts is what every single person - DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN - should want. It is the end all document that removes all politics.

LET"S SEE THE FISA APPLICATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This Intelligence Committee member is for the full release of that transcript rather than political memo's.
HOWEVER - he also stated that this memo, when it was written, no one knew it would be declassified. And all members of the committee, Democrats included, did not have issues with it. Only after it's release are those same individuals painting it as one-sided.
EXACTLY AS I SAID EARLIER TODAY.
 

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