Interesting article on muslims in america

[Coyote]

You mean the after the Christians tried to wipe out the Pagan world? And the territory that was then Christian was once Jewish and Pagan....man all those religious upstarts ....

Actually...the Crusades were launched because of a number of reasons but there is frantic religious historic revisionism going on in an attempt to white wash the crusades and the horrible slaughter occurred. Jeruselum and it's surrounding areas held a mix of Muslims, Jews and Christians under Muslim rulers (so much for forceable conversions). I think you need to "own" your own religious history of blood. Once a religion becomes a political power - life can suck for the non-members.

Christians didn't "wipe out" the pagan world. Pagans for the most part voluntarily converted to Christianity.

Your understanding of history is mostly the product of propaganda.

What bullshit. What absolute bullshit. Christian countries invaded and destroyed the cultures of non-Christian countries during hundreds of years of imperialism. Christian missionaries 'converted' people in those countries by decimating their cultures and bribing them with food, shelter, etc., and by manipulating them into believing that if they didn't convert to Christianity they would burn in hell. But mostly, the Christians had power, and the missionaries used that power to manipulate simple people into becoming 'Christians' in order to get rewards. They were not 'voluntarily converted to Christianity.' They were manipulated, bribed and frightened into it.

better than being beheaded, or buried neck deep and stoned to death.

It is true the more people have died in the name of religion than any other cause in the history of the world.

But we live in today's world and the only religion doing that today is Islam.

Some in Islam. Buried and stoned is hardly widespread in the Muslim world. Being beheaded - oddly, people get all upset at that but have no problem with people being grilled to death in an electric chair or hung by the neck or shot by a firing squad.

the difference is innocent vs guilty. sorry if that was too complex for you.

Are you implying that innocent people never get killed in non-Muslim systems? Be for real.

 

[Coyote]

If you love muslims and they are just so loving of Americans, then why when I search for the peaceful muslims on YouTube, looks like there rally's are not very pro America. Any explanations would be helpful.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Don't depend on youtube for all your information.

 

[Esmeralda]

A thousand years of Catholic brutality against so-called 'heretics', for starters.

The Crusades were launched because Islam was trying to wipe out the Christian world. Most of the territory that is now Islam was once Christian. It was all converted through war and slaughter. Idiots like you ignore that history and focus on a few pathetic counter attacks launched by Christianity. Only idiots of your calibre are swallowing that "logic."

You mean the after the Christians tried to wipe out the Pagan world? And the territory that was then Christian was once Jewish and Pagan....man all those religious upstarts ....

Actually...the Crusades were launched because of a number of reasons but there is frantic religious historic revisionism going on in an attempt to white wash the crusades and the horrible slaughter occurred. Jeruselum and it's surrounding areas held a mix of Muslims, Jews and Christians under Muslim rulers (so much for forceable conversions). I think you need to "own" your own religious history of blood. Once a religion becomes a political power - life can suck for the non-members.

Christians didn't "wipe out" the pagan world. Pagans for the most part voluntarily converted to Christianity.

Your understanding of history is mostly the product of propaganda.

What bullshit. What absolute bullshit. Christian countries invaded and destroyed the cultures of non-Christian countries during hundreds of years of imperialism. Christian missionaries 'converted' people in those countries by decimating their cultures and bribing them with food, shelter, etc., and by manipulating them into believing that if they didn't convert to Christianity they would burn in hell. But mostly, the Christians had power, and the missionaries used that power to manipulate simple people into becoming 'Christians' in order to get rewards. They were not 'voluntarily converted to Christianity.' They were manipulated, bribed and frightened into it.

better than being beheaded, or buried neck deep and stoned to death.

It is true the more people have died in the name of religion than any other cause in the history of the world.

But we live in today's world and the only religion doing that today is Islam.

Millions upon millions were killed, murdered, massacred, maimed, put in prisons, used as slaves, their language, culture, families destroyed. How can you defend the behavior of hundreds of years of imperialism which destoryed lives and cultures? How can you? Oh yeah, because they are Christian. Right.

 

[Redfish]

The Crusades were launched because Islam was trying to wipe out the Christian world. Most of the territory that is now Islam was once Christian. It was all converted through war and slaughter. Idiots like you ignore that history and focus on a few pathetic counter attacks launched by Christianity. Only idiots of your calibre are swallowing that "logic."

You mean the after the Christians tried to wipe out the Pagan world? And the territory that was then Christian was once Jewish and Pagan....man all those religious upstarts ....

Actually...the Crusades were launched because of a number of reasons but there is frantic religious historic revisionism going on in an attempt to white wash the crusades and the horrible slaughter occurred. Jeruselum and it's surrounding areas held a mix of Muslims, Jews and Christians under Muslim rulers (so much for forceable conversions). I think you need to "own" your own religious history of blood. Once a religion becomes a political power - life can suck for the non-members.

Christians didn't "wipe out" the pagan world. Pagans for the most part voluntarily converted to Christianity.

Your understanding of history is mostly the product of propaganda.

What bullshit. What absolute bullshit. Christian countries invaded and destroyed the cultures of non-Christian countries during hundreds of years of imperialism. Christian missionaries 'converted' people in those countries by decimating their cultures and bribing them with food, shelter, etc., and by manipulating them into believing that if they didn't convert to Christianity they would burn in hell. But mostly, the Christians had power, and the missionaries used that power to manipulate simple people into becoming 'Christians' in order to get rewards. They were not 'voluntarily converted to Christianity.' They were manipulated, bribed and frightened into it.

better than being beheaded, or buried neck deep and stoned to death.

It is true the more people have died in the name of religion than any other cause in the history of the world.

But we live in today's world and the only religion doing that today is Islam.

What percentage of anti-abortion terrorists are not Christian?

I don't know, but 100% of muslims are anti abortion. also 100% of Buddhists, hindus, and shintos as well as a large % of atheists. One does not have to be Christian to be opposed to murdering unborn human beings.

 

[Redfish]

The Crusades were launched because Islam was trying to wipe out the Christian world. Most of the territory that is now Islam was once Christian. It was all converted through war and slaughter. Idiots like you ignore that history and focus on a few pathetic counter attacks launched by Christianity. Only idiots of your calibre are swallowing that "logic."

You mean the after the Christians tried to wipe out the Pagan world? And the territory that was then Christian was once Jewish and Pagan....man all those religious upstarts ....

Actually...the Crusades were launched because of a number of reasons but there is frantic religious historic revisionism going on in an attempt to white wash the crusades and the horrible slaughter occurred. Jeruselum and it's surrounding areas held a mix of Muslims, Jews and Christians under Muslim rulers (so much for forceable conversions). I think you need to "own" your own religious history of blood. Once a religion becomes a political power - life can suck for the non-members.

Christians didn't "wipe out" the pagan world. Pagans for the most part voluntarily converted to Christianity.

Your understanding of history is mostly the product of propaganda.

What bullshit. What absolute bullshit. Christian countries invaded and destroyed the cultures of non-Christian countries during hundreds of years of imperialism. Christian missionaries 'converted' people in those countries by decimating their cultures and bribing them with food, shelter, etc., and by manipulating them into believing that if they didn't convert to Christianity they would burn in hell. But mostly, the Christians had power, and the missionaries used that power to manipulate simple people into becoming 'Christians' in order to get rewards. They were not 'voluntarily converted to Christianity.' They were manipulated, bribed and frightened into it.

better than being beheaded, or buried neck deep and stoned to death.

It is true the more people have died in the name of religion than any other cause in the history of the world.

But we live in today's world and the only religion doing that today is Islam.

Millions upon millions were killed, murdered, massacred, maimed, put in prisons, used as slaves, their language, culture, families destroyed. How can you defend the behavior of hundreds of years of imperialism which destoryed lives and cultures? How can you? Oh yeah, because they are Christian. Right.

your premise that imperialism was based on Christianity is flawed, as are most of your premises.

 

[Redfish]

Christians didn't "wipe out" the pagan world. Pagans for the most part voluntarily converted to Christianity.

Your understanding of history is mostly the product of propaganda.

What bullshit. What absolute bullshit. Christian countries invaded and destroyed the cultures of non-Christian countries during hundreds of years of imperialism. Christian missionaries 'converted' people in those countries by decimating their cultures and bribing them with food, shelter, etc., and by manipulating them into believing that if they didn't convert to Christianity they would burn in hell. But mostly, the Christians had power, and the missionaries used that power to manipulate simple people into becoming 'Christians' in order to get rewards. They were not 'voluntarily converted to Christianity.' They were manipulated, bribed and frightened into it.

better than being beheaded, or buried neck deep and stoned to death.

It is true the more people have died in the name of religion than any other cause in the history of the world.

But we live in today's world and the only religion doing that today is Islam.

Some in Islam. Buried and stoned is hardly widespread in the Muslim world. Being beheaded - oddly, people get all upset at that but have no problem with people being grilled to death in an electric chair or hung by the neck or shot by a firing squad.

the difference is innocent vs guilty. sorry if that was too complex for you.

Are you implying that innocent people never get killed in non-Muslim systems? Be for real.

of course they have, but not because they refused to participate or believe in a certain religion.

Islam is the only religion today that is murdering innocents in the name of religion, you can spin and bring up the past, but that fact cannot be denied.

 

[Coyote]

You mean the after the Christians tried to wipe out the Pagan world? And the territory that was then Christian was once Jewish and Pagan....man all those religious upstarts ....

Actually...the Crusades were launched because of a number of reasons but there is frantic religious historic revisionism going on in an attempt to white wash the crusades and the horrible slaughter occurred. Jeruselum and it's surrounding areas held a mix of Muslims, Jews and Christians under Muslim rulers (so much for forceable conversions). I think you need to "own" your own religious history of blood. Once a religion becomes a political power - life can suck for the non-members.

Christians didn't "wipe out" the pagan world. Pagans for the most part voluntarily converted to Christianity.

Your understanding of history is mostly the product of propaganda.

What bullshit. What absolute bullshit. Christian countries invaded and destroyed the cultures of non-Christian countries during hundreds of years of imperialism. Christian missionaries 'converted' people in those countries by decimating their cultures and bribing them with food, shelter, etc., and by manipulating them into believing that if they didn't convert to Christianity they would burn in hell. But mostly, the Christians had power, and the missionaries used that power to manipulate simple people into becoming 'Christians' in order to get rewards. They were not 'voluntarily converted to Christianity.' They were manipulated, bribed and frightened into it.

better than being beheaded, or buried neck deep and stoned to death.

It is true the more people have died in the name of religion than any other cause in the history of the world.

But we live in today's world and the only religion doing that today is Islam.

What percentage of anti-abortion terrorists are not Christian?

I don't know, but 100% of muslims are anti abortion. also 100% of Buddhists, hindus, and shintos as well as a large % of atheists. One does not have to be Christian to be opposed to murdering unborn human beings.

In the US, it's tied to the Christian Right - and thus far, the anti-abortion terrorists have acted from a Christian perspective. Have any not been Christian?

 

[Coyote]

What bullshit. What absolute bullshit. Christian countries invaded and destroyed the cultures of non-Christian countries during hundreds of years of imperialism. Christian missionaries 'converted' people in those countries by decimating their cultures and bribing them with food, shelter, etc., and by manipulating them into believing that if they didn't convert to Christianity they would burn in hell. But mostly, the Christians had power, and the missionaries used that power to manipulate simple people into becoming 'Christians' in order to get rewards. They were not 'voluntarily converted to Christianity.' They were manipulated, bribed and frightened into it.

better than being beheaded, or buried neck deep and stoned to death.

It is true the more people have died in the name of religion than any other cause in the history of the world.

But we live in today's world and the only religion doing that today is Islam.

Some in Islam. Buried and stoned is hardly widespread in the Muslim world. Being beheaded - oddly, people get all upset at that but have no problem with people being grilled to death in an electric chair or hung by the neck or shot by a firing squad.

the difference is innocent vs guilty. sorry if that was too complex for you.

Are you implying that innocent people never get killed in non-Muslim systems? Be for real.

of course they have, but not because they refused to participate or believe in a certain religion.

Islam is the only religion today that is murdering innocents in the name of religion, you can spin and bring up the past, but that fact cannot be denied.

Agree, they are the only ones with a death penalty for apostates and that is something those legal systems will need to change. Not sure how that makes any difference in the fact that Christians were guilty of forced conversions.

 

[Redfish]

Christians didn't "wipe out" the pagan world. Pagans for the most part voluntarily converted to Christianity.

Your understanding of history is mostly the product of propaganda.

What bullshit. What absolute bullshit. Christian countries invaded and destroyed the cultures of non-Christian countries during hundreds of years of imperialism. Christian missionaries 'converted' people in those countries by decimating their cultures and bribing them with food, shelter, etc., and by manipulating them into believing that if they didn't convert to Christianity they would burn in hell. But mostly, the Christians had power, and the missionaries used that power to manipulate simple people into becoming 'Christians' in order to get rewards. They were not 'voluntarily converted to Christianity.' They were manipulated, bribed and frightened into it.

better than being beheaded, or buried neck deep and stoned to death.

It is true the more people have died in the name of religion than any other cause in the history of the world.

But we live in today's world and the only religion doing that today is Islam.

What percentage of anti-abortion terrorists are not Christian?

I don't know, but 100% of muslims are anti abortion. also 100% of Buddhists, hindus, and shintos as well as a large % of atheists. One does not have to be Christian to be opposed to murdering unborn human beings.

In the US, it's tied to the Christian Right - and thus far, the anti-abortion terrorists have acted from a Christian perspective. Have any not been Christian?

Being anti abortion because of your personal views is the right of every person.

murdering an abortion doctor is a crime no matter why you do it. No true Christian would sanction murdering an abortion doctor any more than he/she would sanction murdering an unborn child.

 

[jasonnfree]

I say muslims can't be good Americans. They don't seem to be able to control the crazies amongst them. This is the 21st century where a handful of them can take down skyscrapers, blow up dams, on and on. And they will for sure. Unfortunately, we can't do much about those here legally, but surely don't allow any more in our country. I would say the same for allowing them to be in the military. It's fairly easy to scuttle a ship, especially if you're not worried about getting caught, the way these guys think. They will go down with the ship. They're basically crazy, like we have seen over and over. Self preservation people.

 

[Redfish]

better than being beheaded, or buried neck deep and stoned to death.

It is true the more people have died in the name of religion than any other cause in the history of the world.

But we live in today's world and the only religion doing that today is Islam.

Some in Islam. Buried and stoned is hardly widespread in the Muslim world. Being beheaded - oddly, people get all upset at that but have no problem with people being grilled to death in an electric chair or hung by the neck or shot by a firing squad.

the difference is innocent vs guilty. sorry if that was too complex for you.

Are you implying that innocent people never get killed in non-Muslim systems? Be for real.

of course they have, but not because they refused to participate or believe in a certain religion.

Islam is the only religion today that is murdering innocents in the name of religion, you can spin and bring up the past, but that fact cannot be denied.

Agree, they are the only ones with a death penalty for apostates and that is something those legal systems will need to change. Not sure how that makes any difference in the fact that Christians were guilty of forced conversions.

so maybe you can come up with some past examples of Christian forced conversion. WTF does that have to do with Islamic murdering terrorists today?

Does it make it right today if someone did it in the past?

The logic of the liberal mind is amazingly stupid.

 

[Esmeralda]

What bullshit. What absolute bullshit. Christian countries invaded and destroyed the cultures of non-Christian countries during hundreds of years of imperialism. Christian missionaries 'converted' people in those countries by decimating their cultures and bribing them with food, shelter, etc., and by manipulating them into believing that if they didn't convert to Christianity they would burn in hell. But mostly, the Christians had power, and the missionaries used that power to manipulate simple people into becoming 'Christians' in order to get rewards. They were not 'voluntarily converted to Christianity.' They were manipulated, bribed and frightened into it.

better than being beheaded, or buried neck deep and stoned to death.

It is true the more people have died in the name of religion than any other cause in the history of the world.

But we live in today's world and the only religion doing that today is Islam.

What percentage of anti-abortion terrorists are not Christian?

I don't know, but 100% of muslims are anti abortion. also 100% of Buddhists, hindus, and shintos as well as a large % of atheists. One does not have to be Christian to be opposed to murdering unborn human beings.

In the US, it's tied to the Christian Right - and thus far, the anti-abortion terrorists have acted from a Christian perspective. Have any not been Christian?

Being anti abortion because of your personal views is the right of every person.

murdering an abortion doctor is a crime no matter why you do it. No true Christian would sanction murdering an abortion doctor any more than he/she would sanction murdering an unborn child.

That's such baloney. Christians do sanction people who attack abortion clinics and doctors.

Here's a lesson for you: Some Christians terroize abortion providers, even violently, even killing people. The mass of Christians in our society don't sanction such violence, but some do. Those Christians who believe such terrorism is wrong usually do not speak out, or their voices are not heard. To the rest of us they seem to remain silent.

Some Muslims are terrorists and use violence too. The mass of Muslims do not sanction such violence (btw, the majority of people fighting ISIS are Muslim) and many do speak out against it but are not heard and not covered by the press.

You all must see a similarity in the acts of terrorism by Christians and by Muslims...in those who do not support terrorism, i.e., the vast majority of Christians and Muslims do not support terrorism. It is true that Muslims do speak out against terrorism, but their voices are seldom heard: the Western press does not cover it.

And it is a FACT that the majority of people fiighting ISIS are Muslim. Stope being a racist and bigot and see the reality.

 

[Redfish]

better than being beheaded, or buried neck deep and stoned to death.

It is true the more people have died in the name of religion than any other cause in the history of the world.

But we live in today's world and the only religion doing that today is Islam.

What percentage of anti-abortion terrorists are not Christian?

I don't know, but 100% of muslims are anti abortion. also 100% of Buddhists, hindus, and shintos as well as a large % of atheists. One does not have to be Christian to be opposed to murdering unborn human beings.

In the US, it's tied to the Christian Right - and thus far, the anti-abortion terrorists have acted from a Christian perspective. Have any not been Christian?

Being anti abortion because of your personal views is the right of every person.

murdering an abortion doctor is a crime no matter why you do it. No true Christian would sanction murdering an abortion doctor any more than he/she would sanction murdering an unborn child.

That's such baloney. Christians do sanction people who attack abortion clinics and doctors.

Here's a lesson for you: Some Christians terroize abortion providers, even violently, even killing people. The mass of Christians in our society don't sanction such violence, but some do. Those Christians who believe such terrorism is wong do not speak out. They remain silent.

Some Muslims are terrorists and use violence too. The mass of Muslims do not sanction such violence (btw, the majority of people fighting ISIS are Muslim) and many do speak out against it but are not heard and not covered by the press.

You all must see a similarity in the acts of terrorism by Christians and by Muslims...in those who do not support terrorism, i.e., the vast majority of Christians and Muslims do not support terrorism. It is true that Muslims do speak out against terrorism, but their voices are seldom heard: the Western press does not cover it.

And it is a FACT that the majority of people fiighting ISIS are Muslim. Stope being a racist and bigot and see the reality.

the difference, which you appear to stupid to comprehend, is that islam teaches its followers to kill non-muslims, Christianity teaches its followers to love everyone regardless of his religion.

I am not saying that either group follows those teachings 100%, but this thread is about the ideology of islam and the OP is accurate on that.

 

[Esmeralda]

What percentage of anti-abortion terrorists are not Christian?

I don't know, but 100% of muslims are anti abortion. also 100% of Buddhists, hindus, and shintos as well as a large % of atheists. One does not have to be Christian to be opposed to murdering unborn human beings.

In the US, it's tied to the Christian Right - and thus far, the anti-abortion terrorists have acted from a Christian perspective. Have any not been Christian?

Being anti abortion because of your personal views is the right of every person.

murdering an abortion doctor is a crime no matter why you do it. No true Christian would sanction murdering an abortion doctor any more than he/she would sanction murdering an unborn child.

That's such baloney. Christians do sanction people who attack abortion clinics and doctors.

Here's a lesson for you: Some Christians terroize abortion providers, even violently, even killing people. The mass of Christians in our society don't sanction such violence, but some do. Those Christians who believe such terrorism is wong do not speak out. They remain silent.

Some Muslims are terrorists and use violence too. The mass of Muslims do not sanction such violence (btw, the majority of people fighting ISIS are Muslim) and many do speak out against it but are not heard and not covered by the press.

You all must see a similarity in the acts of terrorism by Christians and by Muslims...in those who do not support terrorism, i.e., the vast majority of Christians and Muslims do not support terrorism. It is true that Muslims do speak out against terrorism, but their voices are seldom heard: the Western press does not cover it.

And it is a FACT that the majority of people fiighting ISIS are Muslim. Stope being a racist and bigot and see the reality.

the difference, which you appear to stupid to comprehend, is that islam teaches its followers to kill non-muslims, Christianity teaches its followers to love everyone regardless of his religion.

I am not saying that either group follows those teachings 100%, but this thread is about the ideology of islam and the OP is accurate on that.

It does not. That's not true. I have lived in 3 Muslim countries for over 8 years. No one has attempted any kind of violence against me or insulted me or intimidated me in anyway. You are the one who is too stupid to recognize reality. Muslims are friendly, warm, generous people...that is my experience of them over and over again. And Christians are just as mean and ugly as anyone else on the planet. If Christianity teaches their people to love anyone regardless of religion, then why do so many Christians obviously loath Muslims?

 

[NYcarbineer]

You mean the after the Christians tried to wipe out the Pagan world? And the territory that was then Christian was once Jewish and Pagan....man all those religious upstarts ....

Actually...the Crusades were launched because of a number of reasons but there is frantic religious historic revisionism going on in an attempt to white wash the crusades and the horrible slaughter occurred. Jeruselum and it's surrounding areas held a mix of Muslims, Jews and Christians under Muslim rulers (so much for forceable conversions). I think you need to "own" your own religious history of blood. Once a religion becomes a political power - life can suck for the non-members.

Christians didn't "wipe out" the pagan world. Pagans for the most part voluntarily converted to Christianity.

Your understanding of history is mostly the product of propaganda.

What bullshit. What absolute bullshit. Christian countries invaded and destroyed the cultures of non-Christian countries during hundreds of years of imperialism. Christian missionaries 'converted' people in those countries by decimating their cultures and bribing them with food, shelter, etc., and by manipulating them into believing that if they didn't convert to Christianity they would burn in hell. But mostly, the Christians had power, and the missionaries used that power to manipulate simple people into becoming 'Christians' in order to get rewards. They were not 'voluntarily converted to Christianity.' They were manipulated, bribed and frightened into it.

better than being beheaded, or buried neck deep and stoned to death.

It is true the more people have died in the name of religion than any other cause in the history of the world.

But we live in today's world and the only religion doing that today is Islam.

What percentage of anti-abortion terrorists are not Christian?

I don't know, but 100% of muslims are anti abortion. also 100% of Buddhists, hindus, and shintos as well as a large % of atheists. One does not have to be Christian to be opposed to murdering unborn human beings.

Apparently one has to be Christian to be an anti-abortion terrorist,

those people you tacitly support.

 

[NYcarbineer]

What percentage of anti-abortion terrorists are not Christian?

I don't know, but 100% of muslims are anti abortion. also 100% of Buddhists, hindus, and shintos as well as a large % of atheists. One does not have to be Christian to be opposed to murdering unborn human beings.

In the US, it's tied to the Christian Right - and thus far, the anti-abortion terrorists have acted from a Christian perspective. Have any not been Christian?

Being anti abortion because of your personal views is the right of every person.

murdering an abortion doctor is a crime no matter why you do it. No true Christian would sanction murdering an abortion doctor any more than he/she would sanction murdering an unborn child.

That's such baloney. Christians do sanction people who attack abortion clinics and doctors.

Here's a lesson for you: Some Christians terroize abortion providers, even violently, even killing people. The mass of Christians in our society don't sanction such violence, but some do. Those Christians who believe such terrorism is wong do not speak out. They remain silent.

Some Muslims are terrorists and use violence too. The mass of Muslims do not sanction such violence (btw, the majority of people fighting ISIS are Muslim) and many do speak out against it but are not heard and not covered by the press.

You all must see a similarity in the acts of terrorism by Christians and by Muslims...in those who do not support terrorism, i.e., the vast majority of Christians and Muslims do not support terrorism. It is true that Muslims do speak out against terrorism, but their voices are seldom heard: the Western press does not cover it.

And it is a FACT that the majority of people fiighting ISIS are Muslim. Stope being a racist and bigot and see the reality.

the difference, which you appear to stupid to comprehend, is that islam teaches its followers to kill non-muslims, Christianity teaches its followers to love everyone regardless of his religion.

I am not saying that either group follows those teachings 100%, but this thread is about the ideology of islam and the OP is accurate on that.

No your thread is an attempt to demonize all Muslims. At least you could be man enough to admit that.

 

[NYcarbineer]

What percentage of anti-abortion terrorists are not Christian?

I don't know, but 100% of muslims are anti abortion. also 100% of Buddhists, hindus, and shintos as well as a large % of atheists. One does not have to be Christian to be opposed to murdering unborn human beings.

In the US, it's tied to the Christian Right - and thus far, the anti-abortion terrorists have acted from a Christian perspective. Have any not been Christian?

Being anti abortion because of your personal views is the right of every person.

murdering an abortion doctor is a crime no matter why you do it. No true Christian would sanction murdering an abortion doctor any more than he/she would sanction murdering an unborn child.

That's such baloney. Christians do sanction people who attack abortion clinics and doctors.

Here's a lesson for you: Some Christians terroize abortion providers, even violently, even killing people. The mass of Christians in our society don't sanction such violence, but some do. Those Christians who believe such terrorism is wong do not speak out. They remain silent.

Some Muslims are terrorists and use violence too. The mass of Muslims do not sanction such violence (btw, the majority of people fighting ISIS are Muslim) and many do speak out against it but are not heard and not covered by the press.

You all must see a similarity in the acts of terrorism by Christians and by Muslims...in those who do not support terrorism, i.e., the vast majority of Christians and Muslims do not support terrorism. It is true that Muslims do speak out against terrorism, but their voices are seldom heard: the Western press does not cover it.

And it is a FACT that the majority of people fiighting ISIS are Muslim. Stope being a racist and bigot and see the reality.

the difference, which you appear to stupid to comprehend, is that islam teaches its followers to kill non-muslims, Christianity teaches its followers to love everyone regardless of his religion.

I am not saying that either group follows those teachings 100%, but this thread is about the ideology of islam and the OP is accurate on that.

lol, so apparently you're not a Christian by your own definition.

 

[bripat9643]

Allah is literally the pagan moon god of the Arabs before Islam:

http://www.islam-watch.org/home/112...esses-allah-was-a-pagan-god-before-islam.html

Yawah (aka God) was a Canaanite War God. So what? The Bible’s Yahweh, a War-God?: Called “Lord of Armies” Over 280 Times in the Bible and “Lord of Peace” Just Once (I)

Are they still the same Gods or morphed into something different?

Even if that were true, Allah is not the same god as the Christian god. Furthermore, Allah is the direct descendent of the Pagan Arab moon god.

Calling Yahweh a "war god" is deliberately attempt to confuse the issue. All cultures invoke their gods when fighting enemies. They still do.

...Yahweh aka "God" is a direct descendent of a Pagan Caananite War God. It's not "invoking" anything - it's what he was in that incarnation. Like I said - all the modern Gods have their roots in even more ancient traditions and dieties - if you're going to promote "Allah" as a pagan moon god, then be honest and admit you are worshipping a pagan war god.

According to Wikipedia, your theory is nothing more than a rumor.

Yahweh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yahweh (/ˈjɑːhweɪ/, or often /ˈjɑːweɪ/ in English; Hebrew: יהוה‎) is the national god of the ancient kingdoms of Israel (Samaria) and Judah.[2] His origins are mysterious, although they reach back to the early Iron Age and even the Late Bronze:[3] his name may have begun as an epithet of El, head of the Bronze Age Canaanite pantheon,[4] but the earliest plausible mentions are in Egyptian texts that place him among the nomads of the southern Transjordan.[5]

In the oldest biblical literature, Yahweh is a typical ancient Near Eastern "divine warrior" who leads the heavenly army against Israel's enemies;[6] he later became the main god of the Kingdom of Israel (Samaria) and of Judah,[7] and over time the royal court and temple promoted Yahweh as the god of the entire cosmos, possessing all the positive qualities previously attributed to the other gods and goddesses.[8][9] By the end of the Babylonian exile (6th century BCE), the very existence of foreign gods was denied, and Yahweh was proclaimed as the creator of the cosmos and the true god of all the world.[9]​

From your source. He originated as a war god. If you read Wikipedia's entry on Allah - you will find similar uncertainties (these were ancient times) - Allah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The bottom line, your claim was wrong. He wasn't the Canaanite god of war. He was the Israelite god of war, which hardly matters. However you want to slice it, Allah and Yahweh are not the same god.

 

[bripat9643]

I don't know, but 100% of muslims are anti abortion. also 100% of Buddhists, hindus, and shintos as well as a large % of atheists. One does not have to be Christian to be opposed to murdering unborn human beings.

In the US, it's tied to the Christian Right - and thus far, the anti-abortion terrorists have acted from a Christian perspective. Have any not been Christian?

Being anti abortion because of your personal views is the right of every person.

murdering an abortion doctor is a crime no matter why you do it. No true Christian would sanction murdering an abortion doctor any more than he/she would sanction murdering an unborn child.

That's such baloney. Christians do sanction people who attack abortion clinics and doctors.

Here's a lesson for you: Some Christians terroize abortion providers, even violently, even killing people. The mass of Christians in our society don't sanction such violence, but some do. Those Christians who believe such terrorism is wong do not speak out. They remain silent.

Some Muslims are terrorists and use violence too. The mass of Muslims do not sanction such violence (btw, the majority of people fighting ISIS are Muslim) and many do speak out against it but are not heard and not covered by the press.

You all must see a similarity in the acts of terrorism by Christians and by Muslims...in those who do not support terrorism, i.e., the vast majority of Christians and Muslims do not support terrorism. It is true that Muslims do speak out against terrorism, but their voices are seldom heard: the Western press does not cover it.

And it is a FACT that the majority of people fiighting ISIS are Muslim. Stope being a racist and bigot and see the reality.

the difference, which you appear to stupid to comprehend, is that islam teaches its followers to kill non-muslims, Christianity teaches its followers to love everyone regardless of his religion.

I am not saying that either group follows those teachings 100%, but this thread is about the ideology of islam and the OP is accurate on that.

No your thread is an attempt to demonize all Muslims. At least you could be man enough to admit that.

Muslims have demonized themselves. All he did is post the facts.

 

[bripat9643]

A thousand years of Catholic brutality against so-called 'heretics', for starters.

The Crusades were launched because Islam was trying to wipe out the Christian world. Most of the territory that is now Islam was once Christian. It was all converted through war and slaughter. Idiots like you ignore that history and focus on a few pathetic counter attacks launched by Christianity. Only idiots of your calibre are swallowing that "logic."

You mean the after the Christians tried to wipe out the Pagan world? And the territory that was then Christian was once Jewish and Pagan....man all those religious upstarts ....

Actually...the Crusades were launched because of a number of reasons but there is frantic religious historic revisionism going on in an attempt to white wash the crusades and the horrible slaughter occurred. Jeruselum and it's surrounding areas held a mix of Muslims, Jews and Christians under Muslim rulers (so much for forceable conversions). I think you need to "own" your own religious history of blood. Once a religion becomes a political power - life can suck for the non-members.

Christians didn't "wipe out" the pagan world. Pagans for the most part voluntarily converted to Christianity.

Your understanding of history is mostly the product of propaganda.

What bullshit. What absolute bullshit. Christian countries invaded and destroyed the cultures of non-Christian countries during hundreds of years of imperialism. Christian missionaries 'converted' people in those countries by decimating their cultures and bribing them with food, shelter, etc., and by manipulating them into believing that if they didn't convert to Christianity they would burn in hell. But mostly, the Christians had power, and the missionaries used that power to manipulate simple people into becoming 'Christians' in order to get rewards. They were not 'voluntarily converted to Christianity.' They were manipulated, bribed and frightened into it.

Like with Islam - conversions were a mixture of voluntary, expedient and forced and that really is the history of the spread of religion in the ancient world. The conquering forces brought their own religion - soemtimes wiping out the old, sometimes tolerating it, sometimes mixing it together. It's silly to think that some how Christianity is "more special" than the others in this regard.

Nope. With Islam conquest always preceded conversion. It's not voluntary when the alternative is the sword or at a minimum paying a heavy tax.