International law or even a legal framework regarding what is legitimate resistance to occupation?

[P F Tinmore]

Post a 1948 map of Israel so we can see where these supposed attacks occurred.

That should clear things up.

It wasn’t a “supposed attack”. It was a matter of combined Arab-Moslem Crusaders crossings the frontier in a coordinated attack. Your appalling lack of knowledge is concerning.

That wasn't the question.

When and where did those troops enter Israeli territory? The propaganda says that Israel was attacked. I have seen no historical record of that happening.

You didn’t ask a question. You made a bogus claim that was refuted. Now you are scrambling to avoid further embarrassment.

Milestones: 1945–1952 - Office of the Historian

They didn't say anything about attacking Israel.

BTW, they mentioned resolution 181 but did not mention that it was never implemented. This was not a particularly good version of history.

I think you’re frantically trying to invent your own version of history. You can invent all the denials you wish and retreat to your usual conspiracy theories but the historical record speaks for itself.

They got some of it wrong like resolution 181. I am not rewriting anything.

 

[Hollie]

I think you’re frantically trying to invent your own version of history. You can invent all the denials you wish and retreat to your usual conspiracy theories but the historical record speaks for itself.

Can you just say when and where those troops entered Israeli territory?

The Islamist peanut gallery. What a hoot.

 

[Hollie]

It wasn’t a “supposed attack”. It was a matter of combined Arab-Moslem Crusaders crossings the frontier in a coordinated attack. Your appalling lack of knowledge is concerning.

That wasn't the question.

When and where did those troops enter Israeli territory? The propaganda says that Israel was attacked. I have seen no historical record of that happening.

You didn’t ask a question. You made a bogus claim that was refuted. Now you are scrambling to avoid further embarrassment.

Milestones: 1945–1952 - Office of the Historian

They didn't say anything about attacking Israel.

BTW, they mentioned resolution 181 but did not mention that it was never implemented. This was not a particularly good version of history.

I think you’re frantically trying to invent your own version of history. You can invent all the denials you wish and retreat to your usual conspiracy theories but the historical record speaks for itself.

They got some of it wrong like resolution 181. I am not rewriting anything.

You’re getting frantic. You can rattle on with your silly reinvention of history as you wish. You will find a more receptive audience for your conspiracy theories at your madrassah.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Again, the Arab League intervened in 1948 to prevent the Jews from continuing their ethnic cleansing and killing of non-Jews and never entered the UN designated Jewish partition. More to the point, prior to the Arab League's intervention, the Jews had already forced Jaffa (within the Arab sector) to surrender and evicted and/or killed as many non-Jews as they could. Again, the Jews had started the seige of Jaffa weeks before the Israeli declaration of independence and the arrival of the Arab League intervention forces.

These are the inconvenient facts. There are contemporaneous British military reports to this effect.

Good post, thanks. One thing though. Resolution 181 was never implemented so the UN designated Jewish partition was not there either.

There was no requirement for a UN partition to allow the creation of a sovereign State of Israel. The Israelis were able to establish sovereignty while you retrograde Arabs-Moslems could not and still cannot.

A critical component in Israel's statehood bid was a defined territory. Israel did not have, and still does not have, a defined territory.

This is critical information in the Palestinians right to resistance.

This has been addressed for you on many occassions. Israel’s defined territory is the territory it controls, has sovereign control over in addition to territorial agreements with its neighbors.

As usual, your frantic attempts to deny contingent reality leaves you appearing quite desperate.

You are talking about military occupation. Occupations do not acquire sovereignty.

 

[Hollie]

Again, the Arab League intervened in 1948 to prevent the Jews from continuing their ethnic cleansing and killing of non-Jews and never entered the UN designated Jewish partition. More to the point, prior to the Arab League's intervention, the Jews had already forced Jaffa (within the Arab sector) to surrender and evicted and/or killed as many non-Jews as they could. Again, the Jews had started the seige of Jaffa weeks before the Israeli declaration of independence and the arrival of the Arab League intervention forces.

These are the inconvenient facts. There are contemporaneous British military reports to this effect.

Good post, thanks. One thing though. Resolution 181 was never implemented so the UN designated Jewish partition was not there either.

There was no requirement for a UN partition to allow the creation of a sovereign State of Israel. The Israelis were able to establish sovereignty while you retrograde Arabs-Moslems could not and still cannot.

A critical component in Israel's statehood bid was a defined territory. Israel did not have, and still does not have, a defined territory.

This is critical information in the Palestinians right to resistance.

This has been addressed for you on many occassions. Israel’s defined territory is the territory it controls, has sovereign control over in addition to territorial agreements with its neighbors.

As usual, your frantic attempts to deny contingent reality leaves you appearing quite desperate.

You are talking about military occupation. Occupations do not acquire sovereignty.

You are retreating to your usual conspiracy theories.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Good post, thanks. One thing though. Resolution 181 was never implemented so the UN designated Jewish partition was not there either.

There was no requirement for a UN partition to allow the creation of a sovereign State of Israel. The Israelis were able to establish sovereignty while you retrograde Arabs-Moslems could not and still cannot.

A critical component in Israel's statehood bid was a defined territory. Israel did not have, and still does not have, a defined territory.

This is critical information in the Palestinians right to resistance.

This has been addressed for you on many occassions. Israel’s defined territory is the territory it controls, has sovereign control over in addition to territorial agreements with its neighbors.

As usual, your frantic attempts to deny contingent reality leaves you appearing quite desperate.

You are talking about military occupation. Occupations do not acquire sovereignty.

You are retreating to your usual conspiracy theories.

Its true. Look it up.

 

[Shusha]

Again, the Arab League intervened in 1948 to prevent the Jews from continuing their ethnic cleansing and killing of non-Jews and never entered the UN designated Jewish partition. More to the point, prior to the Arab League's intervention, the Jews had already forced Jaffa (within the Arab sector) to surrender and evicted and/or killed as many non-Jews as they could. Again, the Jews had started the seige of Jaffa weeks before the Israeli declaration of independence and the arrival of the Arab League intervention forces.

These are the inconvenient facts. There are contemporaneous British military reports to this effect.

Good post, thanks. One thing though. Resolution 181 was never implemented so the UN designated Jewish partition was not there either.

There was no requirement for a UN partition to allow the creation of a sovereign State of Israel. The Israelis were able to establish sovereignty while you retrograde Arabs-Moslems could not and still cannot.

A critical component in Israel's statehood bid was a defined territory. Israel did not have, and still does not have, a defined territory.

This is critical information in the Palestinians right to resistance.

This has been addressed for you on many occassions. Israel’s defined territory is the territory it controls, has sovereign control over in addition to territorial agreements with its neighbors.

As usual, your frantic attempts to deny contingent reality leaves you appearing quite desperate.

You are talking about military occupation. Occupations do not acquire sovereignty.

Israel's sovereignty was not acquired by occupation nor military force. Israel's sovereignty was acquired by treaties and legal instruments. You just keep ignoring those treaties and legal instruments.

 

[Hollie]

There was no requirement for a UN partition to allow the creation of a sovereign State of Israel. The Israelis were able to establish sovereignty while you retrograde Arabs-Moslems could not and still cannot.

A critical component in Israel's statehood bid was a defined territory. Israel did not have, and still does not have, a defined territory.

This is critical information in the Palestinians right to resistance.

This has been addressed for you on many occassions. Israel’s defined territory is the territory it controls, has sovereign control over in addition to territorial agreements with its neighbors.

As usual, your frantic attempts to deny contingent reality leaves you appearing quite desperate.

You are talking about military occupation. Occupations do not acquire sovereignty.

You are retreating to your usual conspiracy theories.

Its true. Look it up.

You know nothing of the facts. All of the preceding has been explained and delineated for you multiple times, yet you continually retreat into your safe house of fear and ignorance.

 

[abi]

Israel's sovereignty was not acquired by occupation nor military force. Israel's sovereignty was acquired by treaties and legal instruments.

After the land was taken in war, correct? And can you just say when and where those troops entered Israeli territory? I am curious on this; it seems important.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Good post, thanks. One thing though. Resolution 181 was never implemented so the UN designated Jewish partition was not there either.

There was no requirement for a UN partition to allow the creation of a sovereign State of Israel. The Israelis were able to establish sovereignty while you retrograde Arabs-Moslems could not and still cannot.

A critical component in Israel's statehood bid was a defined territory. Israel did not have, and still does not have, a defined territory.

This is critical information in the Palestinians right to resistance.

This has been addressed for you on many occassions. Israel’s defined territory is the territory it controls, has sovereign control over in addition to territorial agreements with its neighbors.

As usual, your frantic attempts to deny contingent reality leaves you appearing quite desperate.

You are talking about military occupation. Occupations do not acquire sovereignty.

Israel's sovereignty was not acquired by occupation nor military force. Israel's sovereignty was acquired by treaties and legal instruments. You just keep ignoring those treaties and legal instruments.

Links?

Yeah, I know, they have been posted many times.

 

[Hollie]

Israel's sovereignty was not acquired by occupation nor military force. Israel's sovereignty was acquired by treaties and legal instruments.

After the land was taken in war, correct? And can you just say when and where those troops entered Israeli territory? I am curious on this; it seems important.

What land was taken in war? According to tinmore, none of the humiliated Arab-Moslem armies defeated by the Jooooos lost anything. Another of the delusions that haunt his miserable life.

Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel's sovereignty was not acquired by occupation nor military force. Israel's sovereignty was acquired by treaties and legal instruments.

After the land was taken in war, correct? And can you just say when and where those troops entered Israeli territory? I am curious on this; it seems important.

What land was taken in war? According to tinmore, none of the humiliated Arab-Moslem armies defeated by the Jooooos lost anything. Another of the delusions that haunt his miserable life.

Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

Indeed.

What did Lebanon lose?
What did Syria lose?
What did Jordan lose?
What did Egypt lose?

The questions that everybody ducked. And they will be ducked again.

 

[Hollie]

Israel's sovereignty was not acquired by occupation nor military force. Israel's sovereignty was acquired by treaties and legal instruments.

After the land was taken in war, correct? And can you just say when and where those troops entered Israeli territory? I am curious on this; it seems important.

What land was taken in war? According to tinmore, none of the humiliated Arab-Moslem armies defeated by the Jooooos lost anything. Another of the delusions that haunt his miserable life.

Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

Indeed.

What did Lebanon lose?
What did Syria lose?
What did Jordan lose?
What did Egypt lose?

The questions that everybody ducked. And they will be ducked again.

Indeed, the Arab-Moslem crusaders lost their war of annihilation aimed at Israel.

Indeed, their war intended to drive the Jews into the sea was a failure and they suffered a humiliating defeat.

Indeed, That is a reality that torments you every day of your sad existence.

And Allah knows best.

 

[Shusha]

Israel's sovereignty was not acquired by occupation nor military force. Israel's sovereignty was acquired by treaties and legal instruments.

After the land was taken in war, correct? And can you just say when and where those troops entered Israeli territory? I am curious on this; it seems important.

No. Israel's sovereignty was acquired between 1920 and her Declaration of Independence in 1948.

The war started between Israel and the five Arab nations when they crossed BEYOND their own borders and into territory that did not belong to them and attempted (some successfully) to occupy territory NOT under their sovereign control.

 

[Shusha]

There was no requirement for a UN partition to allow the creation of a sovereign State of Israel. The Israelis were able to establish sovereignty while you retrograde Arabs-Moslems could not and still cannot.

A critical component in Israel's statehood bid was a defined territory. Israel did not have, and still does not have, a defined territory.

This is critical information in the Palestinians right to resistance.

This has been addressed for you on many occassions. Israel’s defined territory is the territory it controls, has sovereign control over in addition to territorial agreements with its neighbors.

As usual, your frantic attempts to deny contingent reality leaves you appearing quite desperate.

You are talking about military occupation. Occupations do not acquire sovereignty.

Israel's sovereignty was not acquired by occupation nor military force. Israel's sovereignty was acquired by treaties and legal instruments. You just keep ignoring those treaties and legal instruments.

Links?

Yeah, I know, they have been posted many times.

Why are you asking then?

 

[P F Tinmore]

A critical component in Israel's statehood bid was a defined territory. Israel did not have, and still does not have, a defined territory.

This is critical information in the Palestinians right to resistance.

This has been addressed for you on many occassions. Israel’s defined territory is the territory it controls, has sovereign control over in addition to territorial agreements with its neighbors.

As usual, your frantic attempts to deny contingent reality leaves you appearing quite desperate.

You are talking about military occupation. Occupations do not acquire sovereignty.

Israel's sovereignty was not acquired by occupation nor military force. Israel's sovereignty was acquired by treaties and legal instruments. You just keep ignoring those treaties and legal instruments.

Links?

Yeah, I know, they have been posted many times.

Why are you asking then?

Because it is fun watching y'all dance.

 

[Shusha]

This has been addressed for you on many occassions. Israel’s defined territory is the territory it controls, has sovereign control over in addition to territorial agreements with its neighbors.

As usual, your frantic attempts to deny contingent reality leaves you appearing quite desperate.

You are talking about military occupation. Occupations do not acquire sovereignty.

Israel's sovereignty was not acquired by occupation nor military force. Israel's sovereignty was acquired by treaties and legal instruments. You just keep ignoring those treaties and legal instruments.

Links?

Yeah, I know, they have been posted many times.

Why are you asking then?

Because it is fun watching y'all dance.

Because its fun for you to ignore the actual treaties and legal instruments.

 

[abi]

Because its fun for you to ignore the actual treaties and legal instruments.

Is there a legal framework regarding what is legitimate resistance to occupation? What lengths would you go to to take back your freedom from your oppressors?

 

[Shusha]

Is there a legal framework regarding what is legitimate resistance to occupation? What lengths would you go to to take back your freedom from your oppressors?

If by "legitimate resistance" you mean violence, no. Just no. There is absolutely no provision in international law which permits the use of force for political gain.

 

[abi]

Even if you watched your oppressors demolish your home and your entire town and were then forced to live as a second class citizen watching your oppressors build their town where yours just stood?