Iraq was lost because of the Mainstream Media ...

[healthmyths]

There will never be any winning by the USA as long as the USA MSM and politicians work against our military!

The Liberation of Iraq was over in May 2003.
90% of Americans as well as the below Democrats wanted Saddam removed!
And he was and today 1.3 million children that would have been starved are still alive!

"..deny Iraq the capacity to develop WMD".Bill Clinton,1998
"..most brutal dictators of Century", Biden,1998
"Iraq compliance with Resolution 687 becomes shell game"..Daschle 1998
"He will use those WMDs again,as he has ten times since 1983" ..Berger Clinton Ntl. Secur. Advr 1998
"posed by Iraq's refusal to end its WMD programs" Levin 1998
"Saddam has been engaged in development of WMDs which is a threat.."Pelosi 1998 WHERE'D SHE GET THIS INFORMATION BEFORE BUSH?
"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building WMDS.."Albright 1999
"Saddam to refine delivery systems, that will threaten the US..."Graham 2001
"Saddam has ignored the mandate of the UN and is building WMDs and the means to deliver.." Levin 2002
"Iraq's search for WMDs ...will continue as long as Saddam's in power"..Gore 2002
"Saddam retains stockpiles of WMDS.."Byrd 2002
"..give President authority to use force..to disarm Saddam because an arsenal of WMDs..threat our security"..Kerry 2002
"..Unmistakable evidence Saddam developing nuclear weapons next 5 years.."Rockefeller 2002
"Violated over 11 years every UN resolution demanding disarming WMDs.."Waxman 2002
"He's given aid,comfort & sanctuary to al Qaeda members..and keep developing WMDs"..Hillary 2002
"Compelling evidence Saddam has WMDs production storage capacity.." Graham 2002
"Without a question, we need to disarm Saddam. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime .... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction .... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."Kerry , Jan. 23. 2003.



BUT with IDIOTS like exemplified BY THESE POLITICIANS that wanted to see the USA FAIL in Iraq helping the terrorists as a Harvard study showed, the liberation dragged on and the permanent force needed to prevent what is happening now was removed!
THESE IDIOTS made these statements and these statements EMBOLDENED! Encouraged! Recruited more terrorists until now today
Iraq will FALL because of the MSM and these idiots constantly accusing the USA of being the bad guys!

U.S. Rep. John Murtha(D) "Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,”

This told the terrorists they were justified to put bombs on little kids who when handed candy by US troops blew themselves up.. because
after all U.S. congress man said the troops killed innocent people.. SO that was OK to blow them and the little kids up!
SICK..

Senator Kerry (D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children."

For once you idiot defenders of these statements TELL ME.. do you think ALL American troops are terrorists?
If so then you like the terrorists think ALL Americans are worse then the terrorists right? Go ahead admit it! The SoS said so! US troops are terrorists!

Durbin (D) "must have been done by Nazis, Soviets"--action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners.

and of course all you mindless uninformed can't imagine what the enemy would use to kill thousands and their justification... Durbin and other
USA congress members telling the enemy ..HEY YOU GUYS are justified!

Senator Obama said "troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians,"

Now this guy is the Commander-in-Chief over all the military. Do you think the military is very happy to salute a CIC who thinks that our
military methodically "air-raiding villages and killing civilians"?

How can ANY American respect the above traitors and YET millions of Americans either didn't care their President called our troops civilian killers!
Or they agree!
So tell me you Obama supporters... DO YOU AGREE with the above statements?

AND don't give me that "context" crap! The terrorists don't use it in context so either these idiots were too stupid their comments would be used
which should mean they are totally inept to be MY representative OR the did it on purpose!
Either way these are stupid, vile people that hate our military.

CONTEXT MY A...! Terrorists didn't care about "context! They loved to hear USA traitor politicians TRASHING our troops!
AND the MSM blew it completely out of proportion as they always do!

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Iraq was lost before it was started. Let's mush on.

 

[KNB]

How loud do you think terrorists cheer when they hear a report that right-wing Republican pro-life Christian super-Conservative strict Constitutionalist freedom-loving Americans ambush and kill cops in pizza parlors?

 

[healthmyths]

Iraq was lost before it was started. Let's mush on.

Do you know we still have troops in Germany/Japan? WHY dummy???
WE WON right?

So the dumb f..ks like you that hated Bush more then you loved our troops and country got your way and wow!

YOU will find out what kind of trash the USA military permanent force if left in Iraq would have prevented from probably
attacking the USA again... but not before they attack our biggest ally ... Israel!

YOU have with your f...king stupidity as well as support of Obama allowed this to occur and it IS YOUR fault!
All because YOU hated Bush more then you wanted to see the US troops survived!

I honestly believe people like you love to see Iraq fall so you can BLAME Bush!
How sick...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I honestly believe people like you love to see Iraq fall so you can BLAME Bush!
How sick...

Learn the history of what isn't one country, that we have no business being in in the first place: History of Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And what you honestly believe is horseshit, as usual.

 

[kiwiman127]

Here's an interesting tidbit for healthmyths to address:
"In a move sure to raise even more questions about the decision to go to war with Iraq, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence will on Friday release selected portions of pre-war intelligence in which the CIA warned the administration of the risk and consequences of a conflict in the Middle East.
Among other things, the 40-page Senate report reveals that two intelligence assessments before the war accurately predicted that toppling Saddam could lead to a dangerous period of internal violence and provide a boost to terrorists. But those warnings were seemingly ignored.
In January 2003, two months before the invasion, the intelligence community's think tank — the National Intelligence Council — issued an assessment warning that after Saddam was toppled, there was “a significant chance that domestic groups would engage in violent conflict with each other and that rogue Saddam loyalists would wage guerilla warfare either by themselves or in alliance with terrorists.”
NBC: CIA warned of risks of war in the Mideast - NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams - NBC News Investigates | NBC News

So, our intelligence knew the odds of what is happening now, could very well happen prior to the US invasion and they were right.
Yet, we went in there, toppled Saddam with not enough troops to secure the borders, munition dumps,and gain complete control of Iraq. We shouldn't be surprised by the predicted outcome, which is happening now.

 

[healthmyths]

How loud do you think terrorists cheer when they hear a report that right-wing Republican pro-life Christian super-Conservative strict Constitutionalist freedom-loving Americans ambush and kill cops in pizza parlors?

Don't disagree with YOU! You are right!
And WHO publicizes this anecdotal very infrequent situation and makes it sound like it happens ALL the time??? MSM!!
See the problem is we've been so brainwashed by the MSM to think OH wow... freedom loving Americans are KILLING COPS all the time!
This happens EVERY DAY 24 hours a day! Right???

People! Remember the mantra of the MSM is "if it bleeds it leads!"

Meaning are there deaths to report? GREAT ! more news!
Cops shot?? wow even better news!
Constitutionalist flag wavers did it?? WOW THAT's great news to get people all agitated and buying more papers watching TV!!!

YEA more stories like what you shared DON"T HAPPEN EVERY DAY EVERY WHERE NOW do they?

But you like most uninformed electorate believe this happens ALL the time.
School shootings! HAPPEN ALL the time!

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Iraq was lost before it was started. Let's mush on.

You're a dupe.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

I honestly believe people like you love to see Iraq fall so you can BLAME Bush!
How sick...

Learn the history of what isn't one country, that we have no business being in in the first place: History of Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And what you honestly believe is horseshit, as usual.

All countries evolved. You're an excuse-making dupe.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Iraq was lost the moment we invaded unprovoked.

 

[GISMYS]

BOTTOMLINE TRUTH ==Iraq was lost because of OBAMA CUT AND RAN AND AFGAN WILL BE LOST TOO=ALL THOSE LIVES AND BILLIONS OF $$$$ WASTED!!!= PATHETIC CLUELESS LIBERALS!!!

 

[PaintMyHouse]

BOTTOMLINE TRUTH ==Iraq was lost because of OBAMA CUT AND RAN AND AFGAN WILL BE LOST TOO=ALL THOSE LIVES AND BILLIONS OF $$$$ WASTED!!!= PATHETIC CLUELESS LIBERALS!!!

Afghanistan? Same thing, lost before it began.

 

[AmericanFirst]

BOTTOMLINE TRUTH ==Iraq was lost because of OBAMA CUT AND RAN AND AFGAN WILL BE LOST TOO=ALL THOSE LIVES AND BILLIONS OF $$$$ WASTED!!!= PATHETIC CLUELESS LIBERALS!!!

Afghanistan? Same thing, lost before it began.

Only in an idiots mind. This country lost the moment obamashitforbrains got elected.

 

[Billo_Really]

There will never be any winning by the USA as long as the USA MSM and politicians work against our military!

WTF are you talking about? The MSM helped sell the war.

The Liberation of Iraq was over in May 2003.

It was not a liberation. It was an act of aggression.

90% of Americans as well as the below Democrats wanted Saddam removed!

Regime change is illegal, according to international law.

And he was and today 1.3 million children that would have been starved are still alive!

And over a million innocent men, women and children are dead as a result of our illegal and immoral invasion.

"..deny Iraq the capacity to develop WMD".Bill Clinton,1998

Which they hadn't had since 1993.

"..most brutal dictators of Century", Biden,1998

So was Pinochet, but we still supported him.

"Iraq compliance with Resolution 687 becomes shell game"..Daschle 1998

Did Tommy say that from his prison cell?

"He will use those WMDs again,as he has ten times since 1983" ..Berger Clinton Ntl. Secur. Advr 1998

There were no WMD's in Iraq past 1993.

"posed by Iraq's refusal to end its WMD programs" Levin 1998

They had no infrastructure to make WMD's past 1993.

"Saddam has been engaged in development of WMDs which is a threat.."Pelosi 1998 WHERE'D SHE GET THIS INFORMATION BEFORE BUSH?

Not from Hans Blix.

"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building WMDS.."Albright 1999

A total lie.

"Saddam to refine delivery systems, that will threaten the US..."Graham 2001

Said a cokehead named Curveball.

"Saddam has ignored the mandate of the UN and is building WMDs and the means to deliver.." Levin 2002

Another total lie.

"Iraq's search for WMDs ...will continue as long as Saddam's in power"..Gore 2002

So what. He won't find any.

"Saddam retains stockpiles of WMDS.."Byrd 2002

Complete bullshit.

"..give President authority to use force..to disarm Saddam because an arsenal of WMDs..threat our security"..Kerry 2002

Anyone who say's Hussein was a threat, is either a fuckin' liar, or the biggest pussy on the planet.

"..Unmistakable evidence Saddam developing nuclear weapons next 5 years.."Rockefeller 2002

Another fucking lie.

"Violated over 11 years every UN resolution demanding disarming WMDs.."Waxman 2002

Israel is in violation of over 200 UN resolutions, should we attack them?

"He's given aid,comfort & sanctuary to al Qaeda members..and keep developing WMDs"..Hillary 2002

That's bullshit. He was al Qaeda's enemy.

"Compelling evidence Saddam has WMDs production storage capacity.." Graham 2002

More bullshit.

"Without a question, we need to disarm Saddam. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime .... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction .... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."Kerry , Jan. 23. 2003.

We know it wasn't real now and we knew, it wasn't real then.

BUT with IDIOTS like exemplified BY THESE POLITICIANS that wanted to see the USA FAIL in Iraq helping the terrorists as a Harvard study showed, the liberation dragged on and the permanent force needed to prevent what is happening now was removed!
THESE IDIOTS made these statements and these statements EMBOLDENED! Encouraged! Recruited more terrorists until now today
Iraq will FALL because of the MSM and these idiots constantly accusing the USA of being the bad guys!

Listen you fucking asshole, when we shoot people standing around talking outside of a house from an Apache gunship and then joke about the carnage, we ARE the bad guys.

Anyone who supports this should renounce their citizenship.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogFZlRiTHuw]Wikileaks - Collateral murder in Iraq by US helicopter (short video) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[healthmyths]

Here's an interesting tidbit for healthmyths to address:
"In a move sure to raise even more questions about the decision to go to war with Iraq, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence will on Friday release selected portions of pre-war intelligence in which the CIA warned the administration of the risk and consequences of a conflict in the Middle East.
Among other things, the 40-page Senate report reveals that two intelligence assessments before the war accurately predicted that toppling Saddam could lead to a dangerous period of internal violence and provide a boost to terrorists. But those warnings were seemingly ignored.
In January 2003, two months before the invasion, the intelligence community's think tank — the National Intelligence Council — issued an assessment warning that after Saddam was toppled, there was “a significant chance that domestic groups would engage in violent conflict with each other and that rogue Saddam loyalists would wage guerilla warfare either by themselves or in alliance with terrorists.”
NBC: CIA warned of risks of war in the Mideast - NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams - NBC News Investigates | NBC News

So, our intelligence knew the odds of what is happening now, could very well happen prior to the US invasion and they were right.
Yet, we went in there, toppled Saddam with not enough troops to secure the borders, munition dumps,and gain complete control of Iraq. We shouldn't be surprised by the predicted outcome, which is happening now.

NO SHIT!!!!

We had enough troops to beat SADDAM!
But when idiots like YOU,Obama, Murtha, MSM help the terrorists by yelling... Americans are baby killers! Americans are Terrorists!
Americans are killing civilians... all words used by idiots like YOU ... Of course the terrorists are going to thrive!
I mean these barbarians LOVED to hear Americans like YOU tear down our military! Tear down the USA!
Everytime quite honestly YOU and others of your ilk when listening to the Stars Spangled Banner YOU are embarrassed you are helping the terrorists!

But when these stupid statements like Obamas and idiots like you are repeated over and over by the MSM... YOU guys gave aid and comfort to the terrorists
and tore away at the morale of our troops.
I mean idiots like you and Obama that handed our troops this card:
“Patrol only in areas that you are reasonably certain that you will not have to defend yourselves with lethal force,” the laminated card reads.
For a soldier who has traveled halfway around the world to fight, that’s like telling a cop he should only patrol in areas where he knows he won’t have to make arrests. “Does that make any f–king sense?” Pfc. Jared Pautsch.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/op...#ixzz0raavCuPp

SEE idiots like you handcuffed our troops.
And you get all bent out of shape about water boarding while the terrorists are doing this:

 

[KNB]

Shut up and read:


The Secret CIA History of the Iran Coup, 1953

Shaking Hands with Saddam Hussein
The Iran-Contra Affair 20 Years On

Iraq and Weapons of Mass Destruction
http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB326/IraqWarPart1-Timeline.pdf
THE IRAQ WAR -- PART I: The U.S. Prepares for Conflict, 2001
THE IRAQ WAR -- PART II: Was There Even a Decision?
THE IRAQ WAR -- PART III: Shaping the Debate
Iraq: The Media War Plan

 

[Mac1958]

.

If we had stayed the hell out of Iraq in the first place, the media would not have mattered.

Saddam would still be providing a strategic counter-balance to Iran.

Saddam would still be providing a firewall against Al Qaeda.

Thousands of young American soldiers would still have their lives, limbs and minds.

Thousands of American families would still have their loved ones.

A trillion or so American dollars would have been saved.

I'm no fan of the media, but this should not have happened.

.

 

[JakeStarkey]

another hm doozy: Iraq was lost because of the Mainstream Media ...

The peace in Iraq was lost the instant Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld ignored General Shenseki's estimates of how many troops it would take to hold down the Iraqi insurgency and secure the peace.

The neo-cons lost the war and now they will blame anybody but themselves.

The American people know much better than to follow their fool's story.

 

[bodecea]

Iraq was lost before it was started. Let's mush on.

Do you know we still have troops in Germany/Japan? WHY dummy???
WE WON right?

So the dumb f..ks like you that hated Bush more then you loved our troops and country got your way and wow!

YOU will find out what kind of trash the USA military permanent force if left in Iraq would have prevented from probably
attacking the USA again... but not before they attack our biggest ally ... Israel!

YOU have with your f...king stupidity as well as support of Obama allowed this to occur and it IS YOUR fault!
All because YOU hated Bush more then you wanted to see the US troops survived!

I honestly believe people like you love to see Iraq fall so you can BLAME Bush!
How sick...

We broke it....just like Powell warned.

 

[healthmyths]

another hm doozy: Iraq was lost because of the Mainstream Media ...

The peace in Iraq was lost the instant Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld ignored General Shenseki's estimates of how many troops it would take to hold down the Iraqi insurgency and secure the peace.

The neo-cons lost the war and now they will blame anybody but themselves.

The American people know much better than to follow their fool's story.

The news media reported this overwhelming American victory as a catastrophic defeat.

"Donning helmet, Mr. Cronkite declared the war lost," recounted UPI's Arnaud de Borchgrave.
"It was this now famous television news piece that persuaded President Lyndon Johnson...not to run for re-election."

Shaken by Tet, he planned to seek terms for a conditional surrender, the North Vietnamese commander, Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap, wrote in his memoirs. But our news media's complete misrepresentation of what had actually happened "convinced him America's resolve was weakening and complete victory was within Hanoi's grasp," Mr. de Borchgrave said.



Earlier this month, the Army sponsored a conference for retired general officers at Fort Carson, Colorado. They were addressed by recent returnees from Iraq, including Col. H.R. McMaster, commander of the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment.

"All returnees agreed we are clearly winning the fight against the insurgents but are losing the public relations battle," said a retired admiral in an email to friends.

A disturbing anecdote from Col. McMaster illustrates why. His 3rd ACR broke the insurgents' hold of the city of Tal Afar last September in an operation which generated these effusive words of praise from the town's mayor:

"To the lion hearts who liberated our city from the grasp of terrorists who were beheading men, women and children in the streets...(you are) not only courageous men and women, but avenging angels sent by The God Himself to fight the evil of terrorism."
Time magazine had a reporter and a photographer embedded with the 3rd ACR. When the battle was over, they filed a lengthy story and nearly 100 photographs.

"When the issue came out, the guts had been edited out of the reporter's story and none of the photographs he submitted were used," said the admiral, quoting Col. McMaster. "When the reporter questioned why his story was eviscerated, his editors...responded that the story and pictures were 'too heroic.'"

RealClearPolitics - Articles - Iraq, Vietnam, the MSM & Dan Rather

NOW to all you idiots who don't think this events happened!
ASK your vietnam/Iraq buddies HOW do they think the MSM treated their EFFORTS to help Vietnamese/Iraqis?
WERE the MSM helpful? OR HARMFUL?

As I've repeated put this Harvard study up when IDIOTS HELP the TERRORISTS by calling OUR troops "killers", terrorists,etc.
WHO benefits?? Certainly NOT OUR TROOPS because idiots like these see our troops as the bad guys... JUST AS THE TERRORISTS DO!!!

This Harvard study found here THE "EMBOLDENMENT EFFECT"

asked: "Are insurgents in Iraq emboldened by voices in the news media expressing dissent or calling for troop withdrawals from Iraq?

The short answer is YES!!! according to Radha Iyengar, a Robert Wood Johnson Scholar in health policy
research at Harvard and Jonathan Monten of the Belfer Center at the university's Kennedy School of Government.

STUDY ABSTRACT
Are insurgents affected by information on US casualty sensitivity? Using data on attacks and variation in access to international news across Iraqi provinces, we identify an “emboldenment” effect by comparing the rate of insurgent attacks in areas with higher and lower access to information about U.S news after public statements critical of the war. (wouldn't you conclude the next president accusing the US military of methodically and systematically air raiding villages killing civilians.. dissent???) We find in periods after a spike in war-critical statements, insurgent attacks increases by 5-10 percent.


Senator Kerry (now Secretary of State) (D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the
dead of night, terrorizing kids and children."
Senator Obama (Now President) said "troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians,"

I'm gonna shout!! WHO BENEFITED BY CALLING OUR TROOPS TERRORISTS, CIVILIAN KILLERS"??
NOT OUR TROOPS FOR DAMN SURE!