Iraq: What Should Obama Tell all the US Iraqi Vets?

The US Military laid out 8 main objectives for Operation Iraqi Freedom:

1 End the regime of Saddam Hussein.

2 Eliminate Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.

3 Capture or drive out terrorists.

4 Collect intelligence on terrorist networks. .

5 Collect intelligence on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction activity.

6 Secure Iraq's oil fields.

7 Deliver humanitarian relief and end sanctions.

8 Help Iraq achieve representative self-government and insure its territorial integrity.

Operation Iraqi Freedom: Military Objectives Met

The goals were met at great cost to the US and especially in terms of our men who fought and served and made it a reality. In a few short year President Obama managed to turn back almost all of the goals. The terrorist networks now run most of the country.

In addition to the major geopolitical disaster this has become, what should President Obama say to the Vets who served in Iraq now that their sacrifices were all in vain

If Obabble was a leader he would tell the war vets that his mistakes take nothing away from their courage and valor. They completed their mission and he failed in his.
 
The US Military laid out 8 main objectives for Operation Iraqi Freedom:

1 End the regime of Saddam Hussein.

2 Eliminate Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.

3 Capture or drive out terrorists.

4 Collect intelligence on terrorist networks. .

5 Collect intelligence on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction activity.

6 Secure Iraq's oil fields.

7 Deliver humanitarian relief and end sanctions.

8 Help Iraq achieve representative self-government and insure its territorial integrity.

Operation Iraqi Freedom: Military Objectives Met

The goals were met at great cost to the US and especially in terms of our men who fought and served and made it a reality. In a few short year President Obama managed to turn back almost all of the goals. The terrorist networks now run most of the country.

In addition to the major geopolitical disaster this has become, what should President Obama say to the Vets who served in Iraq now that their sacrifices were all in vain

If Obabble was a leader he would tell the war vets that his mistakes take nothing away from their courage and valor. They completed their mission and he failed in his.

You failed in yours, actually. Step along.
 
Let the Allah Monkeys kill each other. They love to kill. It's for Allah.


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The US Military laid out 8 main objectives for Operation Iraqi Freedom:

1 End the regime of Saddam Hussein.

2 Eliminate Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.

3 Capture or drive out terrorists.

4 Collect intelligence on terrorist networks. .

5 Collect intelligence on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction activity.

6 Secure Iraq's oil fields.

7 Deliver humanitarian relief and end sanctions.

8 Help Iraq achieve representative self-government and insure its territorial integrity.

Operation Iraqi Freedom: Military Objectives Met

The goals were met at great cost to the US and especially in terms of our men who fought and served and made it a reality. In a few short year President Obama managed to turn back almost all of the goals. The terrorist networks now run most of the country.

In addition to the major geopolitical disaster this has become, what should President Obama say to the Vets who served in Iraq now that their sacrifices were all in vain

If Obabble was a leader he would tell the war vets that his mistakes take nothing away from their courage and valor. They completed their mission and he failed in his.

You failed in yours, actually. Step along.

What was mine, Gertrude ?
 
What was mine, Gertrude ?

Understanding that Bush had FUBAR'd the whole war before Obama got there.

Obama failed in not bringing our troops home immediately.

Obabble quit...he gave up. No surprise...he knows nothing of military strategy, leadership or negotiating from strength. A surprise to no thinking American.

Yes, everyone loves a bully. Warmongering costs blood and treasure. How much have you donated...?
 
The US Military laid out 8 main objectives for Operation Iraqi Freedom:

1 End the regime of Saddam Hussein.

2 Eliminate Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.

3 Capture or drive out terrorists.

4 Collect intelligence on terrorist networks. .

5 Collect intelligence on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction activity.

6 Secure Iraq's oil fields.

7 Deliver humanitarian relief and end sanctions.

8 Help Iraq achieve representative self-government and insure its territorial integrity.

Operation Iraqi Freedom: Military Objectives Met

The goals were met at great cost to the US and especially in terms of our men who fought and served and made it a reality. In a few short year President Obama managed to turn back almost all of the goals. The terrorist networks now run most of the country.

In addition to the major geopolitical disaster this has become, what should President Obama say to the Vets who served in Iraq now that their sacrifices were all in vain

If Obabble was a leader he would tell the war vets that his mistakes take nothing away from their courage and valor. They completed their mission and he failed in his.

You failed in yours, actually. Step along.

That's a cowardly post. Obama is a lying punk.
 
This whole situation is illustrative of the Left's naive belief that if we leave the terrorists alone that they will return the favor.

Reality is...we WILL be fighting these people SOMEWHERE. Whether it is Afghanistan...Iraq...Libya...Syria...Somalia...or some OTHER place in the Middle East, Asia or the Far East...they aren't going away and they DO want to destroy us. So put on your "big boy pants" and deal with it.

Um, when did we "leave the terrorists alone" to try this strategy out.

NOw you see, here's the thing. When was the last time you heard about Islamic Terrorists attacking Japan? Oh, that's right. You haven't.

Because Japan doesn't interfere in their politics to start with.

SO maybe we should try this new strategy of leaving the terrorists along.

Japan isn't butting heads with Islamic terrorists because there aren't any in close proximity to Japan and Japan has an almost nonexistent Muslim population.

That being said...anyone who believes that Islamic extremists like the Taliban and ISIS are going to stop once they take over a few Middle Eastern countries are showing the same type of naivety that allowed Hitler to threaten the entire world. They will get around to Japan at some point...it's what fanatics DO!
 
What was mine, Gertrude ?

Understanding that Bush had FUBAR'd the whole war before Obama got there.

Obama failed in not bringing our troops home immediately.

Obabble quit...he gave up. No surprise...he knows nothing of military strategy, leadership or negotiating from strength. A surprise to no thinking American.

do you believe that a continued presence of trainers would have prevented the isis attacks? isis didn't need the help of the us to organize, why should the iraqi army? is arming them, putting them in uniform, and training them for years not enough of a contribution?

every new nation will have its growing pains. we had ours. now it is time for Iraq to decide if the freedom from dictatorship we gave them means enough to them to fight for and keep it. we can't do that part for them.

"A republic, if you can keep it."
 
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This whole situation is illustrative of the Left's naive belief that if we leave the terrorists alone that they will return the favor.

Reality is...we WILL be fighting these people SOMEWHERE. Whether it is Afghanistan...Iraq...Libya...Syria...Somalia...or some OTHER place in the Middle East, Asia or the Far East...they aren't going away and they DO want to destroy us. So put on your "big boy pants" and deal with it.

Um, when did we "leave the terrorists alone" to try this strategy out.

NOw you see, here's the thing. When was the last time you heard about Islamic Terrorists attacking Japan? Oh, that's right. You haven't.

Because Japan doesn't interfere in their politics to start with.

SO maybe we should try this new strategy of leaving the terrorists along.

Japan isn't butting heads with Islamic terrorists because there aren't any in close proximity to Japan and Japan has an almost nonexistent Muslim population.

That being said...anyone who believes that Islamic extremists like the Taliban and ISIS are going to stop once they take over a few Middle Eastern countries are showing the same type of naivety that allowed Hitler to threaten the entire world. They will get around to Japan at some point...it's what fanatics DO!

Japan doesn't tolerate islam. That's why they have no problem.
 
Understanding that Bush had FUBAR'd the whole war before Obama got there.

Obama failed in not bringing our troops home immediately.

Obabble quit...he gave up. No surprise...he knows nothing of military strategy, leadership or negotiating from strength. A surprise to no thinking American.

do you believe that a continued presence of trainers would have prevented the isis attacks? isis didn't need the help of the us to organize, why should the iraqi army? is arming them, putting them in uniform, and training them for years not enough of a contribution?

every new nation will have its growing pains. we had ours. now it is time for Iraq to decide if the freedom from dictatorship we gave them means enough to them to fight for and keep it. we can't do that part for them.

"A republic, if you can keep it."

So Iraq is invaded by outside forces consisting of terrorists SO extreme that Al Queda didn't want them and you're willing to let Iraq fall to them? At that point what exactly do you think will happen in Iraq? What does your naive progressive brain tell you ISIS will be doing once they take control of Iraq? Have you really thought this through? Do you have any idea how catastrophic this could be to the war we are engaged in with terrorists? Do you have any idea the death toll that will be coming from an ISIS takeover? These are not live and let live kind of folks! When they roll into Iraq they will be putting people who opposed them up against a wall and shooting them. But you're cool with that...because that's part of a "new nation's growing pains"?:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:
 
Japan isn't butting heads with Islamic terrorists because there aren't any in close proximity to Japan and Japan has an almost nonexistent Muslim population.

Distance in Miles between Mecca and New York City - 6409 Miles

Distance in MIles between Mecca and Tokyo Japan - 5869 miles.

Nope, we are going farther out of our way to fuck with Muslims than the Japanese would have to.

And I was being generous there. Probably the closest Muslim Country to the US would be Morocco. (4302 miles between Miami and Casablanca) Closest Islamic country to Japan is Indonesia (3601) where they actually probably would have a valid complaint with Japan from WWII.

Of course, the problem is that we go into their part of the world and fuck with them. We support the Zionists, we prop up one asshole tinpot after another who does horrible things to them, and then act all surprised when the local people either topple that tinpot or that tinpot turns on us to please the crowd.

Again, our middle east policy is sticking our dicks into a hornet's nest and wondering why we get stung.

That being said...anyone who believes that Islamic extremists like the Taliban and ISIS are going to stop once they take over a few Middle Eastern countries are showing the same type of naivety that allowed Hitler to threaten the entire world. They will get around to Japan at some point...it's what fanatics DO!

Except that the Taliban and ISIS have shown themselves incapable of even taking over one whole country, much less 'the world".

You see, unlike Germany, they lack this thing called "Technology". Germany was a threat because they had planes and u-boats and ballistic missiles and panzer armies. Oh, yeah, and Germans not only were able unify amongst themselves for a common goal, they were able to find like-minded allies who thought Fascism was nifty.

The Muslims are still fighting among themselves over how many imam's can dance on the head of a pin.
 
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So Iraq is invaded by outside forces consisting of terrorists SO extreme that Al Queda didn't want them and you're willing to let Iraq fall to them? At that point what exactly do you think will happen in Iraq? What does your naive progressive brain tell you ISIS will be doing once they take control of Iraq? Have you really thought this through? Do you have any idea how catastrophic this could be to the war we are engaged in with terrorists? Do you have any idea the death toll that will be coming from an ISIS takeover? These are not live and let live kind of folks! When they roll into Iraq they will be putting people who opposed them up against a wall and shooting them. But you're cool with that...because that's part of a "new nation's growing pains"?:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:

Hey, Dog Style, you should form a Volunteer Brigade to go over there and fight for Democracy. No, seriously. You can get Bill Krystol to be your Colonel, organize a bunch of right wing militia types to go over and fight for Jay-zus and the Oil Companies.

The terrorists have been over there for 40 years. They got us once because we let profit rule over security. But we need to stop wetting our pants and making it worse by getting involved.

We wouldn't have a problem with ISIS if we hadn't listened to Bill Krystol and the rest of the Zionist/PNAC/Neo Con Amen corner and invaded Iraq to start with. Saddam would have totally murdered these fucks if they showed up in his country.
 
Japan isn't butting heads with Islamic terrorists because there aren't any in close proximity to Japan and Japan has an almost nonexistent Muslim population.

Distance in Miles between Mecca and New York City - 6409 Miles

Distance in MIles between Mecca and Tokyo Japan - 5869 miles.

Nope, we are going farther out of our way to fuck with Muslims than the Japanese would have to.

And I was being generous there. Probably the closest Muslim Country to the US would be Morocco. (4302 miles between Miami and Casablanca) Closest Islamic country to Japan is Indonesia (3601) where they actually probably would have a valid complaint with Japan from WWII.

Of course, the problem is that we go into their part of the world and fuck with them. We support the Zionists, we prop up one asshole tinpot after another who does horrible things to them, and then act all surprised when the local people either topple that tinpot or that tinpot turns on us to please the crowd.

Again, our middle east policy is sticking our dicks into a hornet's nest and wondering why we get stung.

That being said...anyone who believes that Islamic extremists like the Taliban and ISIS are going to stop once they take over a few Middle Eastern countries are showing the same type of naivety that allowed Hitler to threaten the entire world. They will get around to Japan at some point...it's what fanatics DO!

Except that the Taliban and ISIS have shown themselves incapable of even taking over one whole country, much less 'the world".

You see, unlike Germany, they lack this thing called "Technology". Germany was a threat because they had planes and u-boats and ballistic missiles and panzer armies. Oh, yeah, and Germans not only were able unify amongst themselves for a common goal, they were able to find like-minded allies who thought Fascism was nifty.

The Muslims are still fighting among themselves over how many imam's can dance on the head of a pin.

The Taliban took over Afghanistan completely you babbling idiot! It's why we had to go in there and roust them after 9/11. Or have you conveniently forgotten about that? As for what technology Islamic terrorists might possess? Pakistan has nukes you drooling dumbass and it's teetering on the edge of being taken over by terrorists. Iran is building nukes and promises the destruction of both Israel and the "Great Satan" which is us in case you've forgotten! How fucking stupid are you? Seriously...are you REALLY this clueless?
 
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So Iraq is invaded by outside forces consisting of terrorists SO extreme that Al Queda didn't want them and you're willing to let Iraq fall to them? At that point what exactly do you think will happen in Iraq? What does your naive progressive brain tell you ISIS will be doing once they take control of Iraq? Have you really thought this through? Do you have any idea how catastrophic this could be to the war we are engaged in with terrorists? Do you have any idea the death toll that will be coming from an ISIS takeover? These are not live and let live kind of folks! When they roll into Iraq they will be putting people who opposed them up against a wall and shooting them. But you're cool with that...because that's part of a "new nation's growing pains"?:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:

Hey, Dog Style, you should form a Volunteer Brigade to go over there and fight for Democracy. No, seriously. You can get Bill Krystol to be your Colonel, organize a bunch of right wing militia types to go over and fight for Jay-zus and the Oil Companies.

The terrorists have been over there for 40 years. They got us once because we let profit rule over security. But we need to stop wetting our pants and making it worse by getting involved.

We wouldn't have a problem with ISIS if we hadn't listened to Bill Krystol and the rest of the Zionist/PNAC/Neo Con Amen corner and invaded Iraq to start with. Saddam would have totally murdered these fucks if they showed up in his country.

Yeah, except for that whole 9/11 thing that happened BEFORE we invaded Iraq...something that was in the planning stages long before the Neo Cons that you idiots blame for everything were even running things in the Oval Office! You naive progressives don't have any more of an idea about foreign policy than you do about economics. You know what your "plan" is now? Isolationism! You buffoons think that if we hide our heads in the sand that the "bad people" will leave us alone! That's not a plan...that's a "fantasy".
 
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The Taliban took over Afghanistan completely you babbling idiot! It's why we had to go in there and roust them after 9/11. Or have you conveniently forgotten about that?

Well, no, they really hadn't, as the Eastern and Northern Alliances held huge swaths of the country. That civil war had been dragging on for 20 years, and we stuck our dicks in that hornet's nest. We should have been done with it when Bin Laden left. INstead, we got in the middle of their politics.

As for what technology Islamic terrorists might possess? Pakistan has nukes you drooling dumbass and it's teetering on the edge of being taken over by terrorists. Iran is building nukes and promises the destruction of both Israel and the "Great Satan" which is us in case you've forgotten! How fucking stupid are you? Seriously...are you REALLY this clueless?

Guy, the only country to use nuclear weapons against innocent women and children?

Unfortunately, that would be us. And while you revisionists will come up with all sorts of reasons why nuking Hiroshima was 'right', we really don't have any business lecturing anyone else after that.

Pakistan had nukes for 20 years, and they haven't used them on anyone. We couldn't go for more than a couple weeks without trying it.

Now, I realize that the Zionists New Services keep you in a permanent panic and shit, but I refuse to get upset about it. Frankly, having grown up under the nuclear cloud, I guess nothing phases me at this point.

We stop fucking with them, we stop getting into trouble.
 
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Yeah, except for that whole 9/11 thing that happened BEFORE we invaded Iraq...something that was in the planning stages long before the Neo Cons that you idiots blame for everything were even running things in the Oval Office!

Right. So after a DECADE of trying to provoke us into getting rid of Saddam for them, the Zionists very cleverly used 9/11 to get us into a war they wanted us to fight.

Oh, yeah. Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11. He didn't have WMD's either. But the Zionists were sleeping better for a cople years, that's the important thing.

Now. Not so much.



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You naive progressives don't have any more of an idea about foreign policy than you do about economics. You know what your "plan" is now? Isolationism! You buffoons think that if we hide our heads in the sand that the "bad people" will leave us alone! That's not a plan...that's a "fantasy".

Uh, guy, when you fuck up two wars and create the worst economic disaster in 80 years, it's you con-jobs who have no idea about 'economics' or 'foreign policy'.

Isolationism? Works for me. We have plenty of problems to fix in this country, we don't need to get involved in theirs.
 
The US Military laid out 8 main objectives for Operation Iraqi Freedom:

1 End the regime of Saddam Hussein.

2 Eliminate Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.

3 Capture or drive out terrorists.

4 Collect intelligence on terrorist networks. .

5 Collect intelligence on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction activity.

6 Secure Iraq's oil fields.

7 Deliver humanitarian relief and end sanctions.

8 Help Iraq achieve representative self-government and insure its territorial integrity.

Operation Iraqi Freedom: Military Objectives Met

The goals were met at great cost to the US and especially in terms of our men who fought and served and made it a reality. In a few short year President Obama managed to turn back almost all of the goals. The terrorist networks now run most of the country.

In addition to the major geopolitical disaster this has become, what should President Obama say to the Vets who served in Iraq now that their sacrifices were all in vain

I dunno Frank, that after watching what happened in Viet Nam they shoulda been smarter than to sign up for another trumped up adventure?
 

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