Irrefutable legal arguments supporting the right of secession

The states need to re-claim their power to nullify. That was TAKEN and simply needs to be taken back.
Nonsense.

The states never had the ‘authority’ to ‘nullify,’ it was always the original intent of the Framing Generation that Federal law be supreme, that the rulings of Federal courts be supreme, and that the Constitution and its case law be the supreme law of the land, immune from attack by the states. (Article VI, US Cont., McCulloch v. Maryland, Cooper v. Aaron)

If they had no right to nullify, then how did 7 of them do exactly that?
Take a look at what Scalia has to say about secession.

Scalia-Turkewitz-Letter-763174-479x620.jpg

If you haven't figured it out by now, I don't give a damn what the hacks on the Supreme Court say about the Constitution. They are all political whores with no honor or integrity.
I have you dialed in alright, you just need to know your idea ranks right up there with treason. One nation indivisible and that's the line you want to cross.
 
The states need to re-claim their power to nullify. That was TAKEN and simply needs to be taken back.
Nonsense.

The states never had the ‘authority’ to ‘nullify,’ it was always the original intent of the Framing Generation that Federal law be supreme, that the rulings of Federal courts be supreme, and that the Constitution and its case law be the supreme law of the land, immune from attack by the states. (Article VI, US Cont., McCulloch v. Maryland, Cooper v. Aaron)

If they had no right to nullify, then how did 7 of them do exactly that?
Take a look at what Scalia has to say about secession.

Scalia-Turkewitz-Letter-763174-479x620.jpg

If you haven't figured it out by now, I don't give a damn what the hacks on the Supreme Court say about the Constitution. They are all political whores with no honor or integrity.
And there you have it, the typical ridiculous response from the equally ridiculous right.
 
Sheesh Bripat, you offered an opinion via a Google book and he offered a Supreme Court decision. That's a huge difference and you didn't "prove" a thing.

So because the SCOTUS say's it would be unconstitutional, would you then be all for the U.S. military to be sent in to kill citizens of a state if they voted to have control of their own destiny by seceding ?
If you have no right under the Constitution to secede, you have in effect become an enemy of the state and have reduced your role in the state to one controlled by Jurisprudence and corrections.

So yes then, you would be all for U.S. military personnel to be sent in and ordered to kill citizens of a state that democratically voted to leave the union.

Okay, got it, at least you're honest.
I didn't say anything about killing, but martial law is tough and nothing that you would want to live under,
Martial law is enforced by killing people, asshole.
No it isn't. Martial law will fire back if fired upon, the choice is yours.
 
The states need to re-claim their power to nullify. That was TAKEN and simply needs to be taken back.
Nonsense.

The states never had the ‘authority’ to ‘nullify,’ it was always the original intent of the Framing Generation that Federal law be supreme, that the rulings of Federal courts be supreme, and that the Constitution and its case law be the supreme law of the land, immune from attack by the states. (Article VI, US Cont., McCulloch v. Maryland, Cooper v. Aaron)

If they had no right to nullify, then how did 7 of them do exactly that?
Take a look at what Scalia has to say about secession.

Scalia-Turkewitz-Letter-763174-479x620.jpg

If you haven't figured it out by now, I don't give a damn what the hacks on the Supreme Court say about the Constitution. They are all political whores with no honor or integrity.
I have you dialed in alright, you just need to know your idea ranks right up there with treason. One nation indivisible and that's the line you want to cross.

You have me confused with someone who gives a flying fuck what you think.

You obviously can't make your case. All you can do is make personal attacks.

You're a typical authoritarian Lincoln cult member.
 
So because the SCOTUS say's it would be unconstitutional, would you then be all for the U.S. military to be sent in to kill citizens of a state if they voted to have control of their own destiny by seceding ?
If you have no right under the Constitution to secede, you have in effect become an enemy of the state and have reduced your role in the state to one controlled by Jurisprudence and corrections.

So yes then, you would be all for U.S. military personnel to be sent in and ordered to kill citizens of a state that democratically voted to leave the union.

Okay, got it, at least you're honest.
I didn't say anything about killing, but martial law is tough and nothing that you would want to live under,
Martial law is enforced by killing people, asshole.
No it isn't. Martial law will fire back if fired upon, the choice is yours.

In other words, it's enforced by killing people. What happens when the National Guard gives me some illegal command and I give them the middle finger salute?
 
The states need to re-claim their power to nullify. That was TAKEN and simply needs to be taken back.
Nonsense.

The states never had the ‘authority’ to ‘nullify,’ it was always the original intent of the Framing Generation that Federal law be supreme, that the rulings of Federal courts be supreme, and that the Constitution and its case law be the supreme law of the land, immune from attack by the states. (Article VI, US Cont., McCulloch v. Maryland, Cooper v. Aaron)

If they had no right to nullify, then how did 7 of them do exactly that?
Take a look at what Scalia has to say about secession.

Scalia-Turkewitz-Letter-763174-479x620.jpg

If you haven't figured it out by now, I don't give a damn what the hacks on the Supreme Court say about the Constitution. They are all political whores with no honor or integrity.
And there you have it, the typical ridiculous response from the equally ridiculous right.
You believe truth is ridiculous.
 
The states need to re-claim their power to nullify. That was TAKEN and simply needs to be taken back.
Nonsense.

The states never had the ‘authority’ to ‘nullify,’ it was always the original intent of the Framing Generation that Federal law be supreme, that the rulings of Federal courts be supreme, and that the Constitution and its case law be the supreme law of the land, immune from attack by the states. (Article VI, US Cont., McCulloch v. Maryland, Cooper v. Aaron)

If they had no right to nullify, then how did 7 of them do exactly that?
Take a look at what Scalia has to say about secession.

Scalia-Turkewitz-Letter-763174-479x620.jpg

If you haven't figured it out by now, I don't give a damn what the hacks on the Supreme Court say about the Constitution. They are all political whores with no honor or integrity.
I have you dialed in alright, you just need to know your idea ranks right up there with treason. One nation indivisible and that's the line you want to cross.
"
At Virginia’s ratification convention, the delegates said, “The powers granted under the Constitution being derived from the People of the United States may be resumed by them whensoever the same shall be perverted to their injury or oppression.” In Federalist Paper 39, James Madison, the father of the Constitution, cleared up what “the people” meant, saying the proposed Constitution would be subject to ratification by the people, “not as individuals composing one entire nation, but as composing the distinct and independent States to which they respectively belong.” In a word, states were sovereign; the federal government was a creation, an agent, a servant of the states.

On the eve of the War of 1861, even unionist politicians saw secession as a right of states. Maryland Rep. Jacob M. Kunkel said, “Any attempt to preserve the Union between the States of this Confederacy by force would be impractical, and destructive of republican liberty.” The northern Democratic and Republican parties favored allowing the South to secede in peace."

Do States Have a Right of Secession - Capitalism Magazine
 
If you have no right under the Constitution to secede, you have in effect become an enemy of the state and have reduced your role in the state to one controlled by Jurisprudence and corrections.

So yes then, you would be all for U.S. military personnel to be sent in and ordered to kill citizens of a state that democratically voted to leave the union.

Okay, got it, at least you're honest.
I didn't say anything about killing, but martial law is tough and nothing that you would want to live under,
Martial law is enforced by killing people, asshole.
No it isn't. Martial law will fire back if fired upon, the choice is yours.

In other words, it's enforced by killing people. What happens when the National Guard gives me some illegal command and I give them the middle finger salute?
It responds to violence with violence. If you are given a legal command and you refuse you will be arrested and jailed until charges can be investigated and brought.
 
Nonsense.

The states never had the ‘authority’ to ‘nullify,’ it was always the original intent of the Framing Generation that Federal law be supreme, that the rulings of Federal courts be supreme, and that the Constitution and its case law be the supreme law of the land, immune from attack by the states. (Article VI, US Cont., McCulloch v. Maryland, Cooper v. Aaron)

If they had no right to nullify, then how did 7 of them do exactly that?
Take a look at what Scalia has to say about secession.

Scalia-Turkewitz-Letter-763174-479x620.jpg

If you haven't figured it out by now, I don't give a damn what the hacks on the Supreme Court say about the Constitution. They are all political whores with no honor or integrity.
I have you dialed in alright, you just need to know your idea ranks right up there with treason. One nation indivisible and that's the line you want to cross.
"
At Virginia’s ratification convention, the delegates said, “The powers granted under the Constitution being derived from the People of the United States may be resumed by them whensoever the same shall be perverted to their injury or oppression.” In Federalist Paper 39, James Madison, the father of the Constitution, cleared up what “the people” meant, saying the proposed Constitution would be subject to ratification by the people, “not as individuals composing one entire nation, but as composing the distinct and independent States to which they respectively belong.” In a word, states were sovereign; the federal government was a creation, an agent, a servant of the states.

On the eve of the War of 1861, even unionist politicians saw secession as a right of states. Maryland Rep. Jacob M. Kunkel said, “Any attempt to preserve the Union between the States of this Confederacy by force would be impractical, and destructive of republican liberty.” The northern Democratic and Republican parties favored allowing the South to secede in peace."

Do States Have a Right of Secession - Capitalism Magazine
As Justice Scalia noted the decision was decided by the Civil War. Your point is moot.
 
I wish you yellow dogs would stop bloviating about secession - and just fucking do it. Please, just fucking do it. Show the world you aren't the spineless bastards we think you are.
 
So yes then, you would be all for U.S. military personnel to be sent in and ordered to kill citizens of a state that democratically voted to leave the union.

Okay, got it, at least you're honest.
I didn't say anything about killing, but martial law is tough and nothing that you would want to live under,
Martial law is enforced by killing people, asshole.
No it isn't. Martial law will fire back if fired upon, the choice is yours.

In other words, it's enforced by killing people. What happens when the National Guard gives me some illegal command and I give them the middle finger salute?
It responds to violence with violence. If you are given a legal command and you refuse you will be arrested and jailed until charges can be investigated and brought.

It responds to people who refuse to comply with government orders by shooting them.

You're an idiot if you don't know that.
 
If they had no right to nullify, then how did 7 of them do exactly that?
Take a look at what Scalia has to say about secession.

Scalia-Turkewitz-Letter-763174-479x620.jpg

If you haven't figured it out by now, I don't give a damn what the hacks on the Supreme Court say about the Constitution. They are all political whores with no honor or integrity.
I have you dialed in alright, you just need to know your idea ranks right up there with treason. One nation indivisible and that's the line you want to cross.
"
At Virginia’s ratification convention, the delegates said, “The powers granted under the Constitution being derived from the People of the United States may be resumed by them whensoever the same shall be perverted to their injury or oppression.” In Federalist Paper 39, James Madison, the father of the Constitution, cleared up what “the people” meant, saying the proposed Constitution would be subject to ratification by the people, “not as individuals composing one entire nation, but as composing the distinct and independent States to which they respectively belong.” In a word, states were sovereign; the federal government was a creation, an agent, a servant of the states.

On the eve of the War of 1861, even unionist politicians saw secession as a right of states. Maryland Rep. Jacob M. Kunkel said, “Any attempt to preserve the Union between the States of this Confederacy by force would be impractical, and destructive of republican liberty.” The northern Democratic and Republican parties favored allowing the South to secede in peace."

Do States Have a Right of Secession - Capitalism Magazine
As Justice Scalia noted the decision was decided by the Civil War. Your point is moot.

In other words, might makes right. You, Lincoln and Hitler agree with him. That's hardly surprising.
 
I didn't say anything about killing, but martial law is tough and nothing that you would want to live under,
Martial law is enforced by killing people, asshole.
No it isn't. Martial law will fire back if fired upon, the choice is yours.

In other words, it's enforced by killing people. What happens when the National Guard gives me some illegal command and I give them the middle finger salute?
It responds to violence with violence. If you are given a legal command and you refuse you will be arrested and jailed until charges can be investigated and brought.

It responds to people who refuse to comply with government orders by shooting them.

You're an idiot if you don't know that.
Well that's the chance you will take isn't it?
 
If they had no right to nullify, then how did 7 of them do exactly that?
Take a look at what Scalia has to say about secession.

Scalia-Turkewitz-Letter-763174-479x620.jpg

If you haven't figured it out by now, I don't give a damn what the hacks on the Supreme Court say about the Constitution. They are all political whores with no honor or integrity.
I have you dialed in alright, you just need to know your idea ranks right up there with treason. One nation indivisible and that's the line you want to cross.
"
At Virginia’s ratification convention, the delegates said, “The powers granted under the Constitution being derived from the People of the United States may be resumed by them whensoever the same shall be perverted to their injury or oppression.” In Federalist Paper 39, James Madison, the father of the Constitution, cleared up what “the people” meant, saying the proposed Constitution would be subject to ratification by the people, “not as individuals composing one entire nation, but as composing the distinct and independent States to which they respectively belong.” In a word, states were sovereign; the federal government was a creation, an agent, a servant of the states.

On the eve of the War of 1861, even unionist politicians saw secession as a right of states. Maryland Rep. Jacob M. Kunkel said, “Any attempt to preserve the Union between the States of this Confederacy by force would be impractical, and destructive of republican liberty.” The northern Democratic and Republican parties favored allowing the South to secede in peace."

Do States Have a Right of Secession - Capitalism Magazine
As Justice Scalia noted the decision was decided by the Civil War. Your point is moot.
Current SCOTUS is so far away from the framers that the framers would hang them for treason.
 
Take a look at what Scalia has to say about secession.

Scalia-Turkewitz-Letter-763174-479x620.jpg

If you haven't figured it out by now, I don't give a damn what the hacks on the Supreme Court say about the Constitution. They are all political whores with no honor or integrity.
I have you dialed in alright, you just need to know your idea ranks right up there with treason. One nation indivisible and that's the line you want to cross.
"
At Virginia’s ratification convention, the delegates said, “The powers granted under the Constitution being derived from the People of the United States may be resumed by them whensoever the same shall be perverted to their injury or oppression.” In Federalist Paper 39, James Madison, the father of the Constitution, cleared up what “the people” meant, saying the proposed Constitution would be subject to ratification by the people, “not as individuals composing one entire nation, but as composing the distinct and independent States to which they respectively belong.” In a word, states were sovereign; the federal government was a creation, an agent, a servant of the states.

On the eve of the War of 1861, even unionist politicians saw secession as a right of states. Maryland Rep. Jacob M. Kunkel said, “Any attempt to preserve the Union between the States of this Confederacy by force would be impractical, and destructive of republican liberty.” The northern Democratic and Republican parties favored allowing the South to secede in peace."

Do States Have a Right of Secession - Capitalism Magazine
As Justice Scalia noted the decision was decided by the Civil War. Your point is moot.

In other words, might makes right. You, Lincoln and Hitler agree with him. That's hardly surprising.
So why do you have to secede? Just move to Idaho or North Dakota, take over the state government, rewrite the state constitution, make new laws and live the way you want.
 
Martial law is enforced by killing people, asshole.
No it isn't. Martial law will fire back if fired upon, the choice is yours.

In other words, it's enforced by killing people. What happens when the National Guard gives me some illegal command and I give them the middle finger salute?
It responds to violence with violence. If you are given a legal command and you refuse you will be arrested and jailed until charges can be investigated and brought.

It responds to people who refuse to comply with government orders by shooting them.

You're an idiot if you don't know that.
Well that's the chance you will take isn't it?

Thanks for admitting that you endorse sending federal troops in to kill people who want to secede.
 
A tiny minority of childish conservatives in a given state can’t ‘secede’ as a consequence of their infantile temper-tantrum because the Supreme Court ruled in a manner they don’t approve of.
 
Take a look at what Scalia has to say about secession.

Scalia-Turkewitz-Letter-763174-479x620.jpg

If you haven't figured it out by now, I don't give a damn what the hacks on the Supreme Court say about the Constitution. They are all political whores with no honor or integrity.
I have you dialed in alright, you just need to know your idea ranks right up there with treason. One nation indivisible and that's the line you want to cross.
"
At Virginia’s ratification convention, the delegates said, “The powers granted under the Constitution being derived from the People of the United States may be resumed by them whensoever the same shall be perverted to their injury or oppression.” In Federalist Paper 39, James Madison, the father of the Constitution, cleared up what “the people” meant, saying the proposed Constitution would be subject to ratification by the people, “not as individuals composing one entire nation, but as composing the distinct and independent States to which they respectively belong.” In a word, states were sovereign; the federal government was a creation, an agent, a servant of the states.

On the eve of the War of 1861, even unionist politicians saw secession as a right of states. Maryland Rep. Jacob M. Kunkel said, “Any attempt to preserve the Union between the States of this Confederacy by force would be impractical, and destructive of republican liberty.” The northern Democratic and Republican parties favored allowing the South to secede in peace."

Do States Have a Right of Secession - Capitalism Magazine
As Justice Scalia noted the decision was decided by the Civil War. Your point is moot.
Current SCOTUS is so far away from the framers that the framers would hang them for treason.
I guess you don't know much about the Founders do you?
 
If you haven't figured it out by now, I don't give a damn what the hacks on the Supreme Court say about the Constitution. They are all political whores with no honor or integrity.
I have you dialed in alright, you just need to know your idea ranks right up there with treason. One nation indivisible and that's the line you want to cross.
"
At Virginia’s ratification convention, the delegates said, “The powers granted under the Constitution being derived from the People of the United States may be resumed by them whensoever the same shall be perverted to their injury or oppression.” In Federalist Paper 39, James Madison, the father of the Constitution, cleared up what “the people” meant, saying the proposed Constitution would be subject to ratification by the people, “not as individuals composing one entire nation, but as composing the distinct and independent States to which they respectively belong.” In a word, states were sovereign; the federal government was a creation, an agent, a servant of the states.

On the eve of the War of 1861, even unionist politicians saw secession as a right of states. Maryland Rep. Jacob M. Kunkel said, “Any attempt to preserve the Union between the States of this Confederacy by force would be impractical, and destructive of republican liberty.” The northern Democratic and Republican parties favored allowing the South to secede in peace."

Do States Have a Right of Secession - Capitalism Magazine
As Justice Scalia noted the decision was decided by the Civil War. Your point is moot.

In other words, might makes right. You, Lincoln and Hitler agree with him. That's hardly surprising.
So why do you have to secede? Just move to Idaho or North Dakota, take over the state government, rewrite the state constitution, make new laws and live the way you want.

You're still subject to the laws of the federal government, like the EPA, for instance, who can effectively expropriate your property if it has a puddle on it after a rain storm.
 

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