Is America About to Reach the Breaking Point ?

[ScreamingEagle]

12 million?
Are you sure that wasn't 12 billion?

Romney is mega wealthy....how many jobs has he generated since November 2012?
He is a "job creator" isn't he?

yes....12 million....

what's interesting is they said back then it was a fairly 'safe bet' by Romney....

But Moody’s Analytics, in an August forecast, predicts 12 million jobs will be created by 2016, no matter who is president.

And Macroeconomic Advisors in April also predicted a gain of 12.3 million jobs. In other words, this is a fairly safe bet by Romney...
Fact Check: Romney?s 12 million jobs

so far dog Obama has only generated about 2.5 million since he was elected 5 long years ago....Obama?s Numbers, October Update

So what is it that is going on? You claim that Romney would have created 12 million jobs. I figure he must of been planning on SOME help.

So what was it that has stopped Romney from creating 12 million new jobs all on his own?

i've already pointed to the smothering regulations of Obama.....he has no interest in helping to create new jobs.....unless they are government jobs of course....

just look at Obamacare for a great example of how his smothering regulations 'work'....the employer mandate encourages part-time jobs and not hiring more than 50 workers....paying all those new taxes doesn't encourage hiring either...not to mention businesses aren't sure what will happen so they don't plan on new projects or hiring new employees...

of course BO 'created jobs' by hiring a bunch of 'navigators' to help roll out Obamacare but these are jobs in the government sector and don't produce anything....in other words they cost us since we have to pay for them with our taxes...

 

[zeke]

yes....12 million....

what's interesting is they said back then it was a fairly 'safe bet' by Romney....


so far dog Obama has only generated about 2.5 million since he was elected 5 long years ago....Obama?s Numbers, October Update

So what is it that is going on? You claim that Romney would have created 12 million jobs. I figure he must of been planning on SOME help.

So what was it that has stopped Romney from creating 12 million new jobs all on his own?

i've already pointed to the smothering regulations of Obama.....he has no interest in helping to create new jobs.....unless they are government jobs of course....

just look at Obamacare for a great example of how his smothering regulations 'work'....the employer mandate encourages part-time jobs and not hiring more than 50 workers....paying all those new taxes doesn't encourage hiring either...not to mention businesses aren't sure what will happen so they don't plan on new projects or hiring new employees...

of course BO 'created jobs' by hiring a bunch of 'navigators' to help roll out Obamacare but these are jobs in the government sector and don't produce anything....in other words they cost us since we have to pay for them with our taxes...

Lets look at that "Obamacare". OK. You do know that there was a higher unemployment rate BEFORE Obamacare took effect? Did you know that?

And feel free to list those job destroying taxes that have been imposed on the job creators or the companies.
I just can't think of them on my own. What are they again? Those job destroying taxes that is.

You write like you spend a lot of time reading right wing talking points. Fair to say?

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Where are our job creators?

We kept taxes low and gave them all that capital gains relief....what happened to the jobs they promised?

Good question. But you can see from the stock market now 10,000+ points since the recession in 2008 that the profits have been kept in house, pushed to the top tiers for the shareholders and done withhout hiring. Employees are squeezed to their limits. It's 1890 all over again.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

So what is it that is going on? You claim that Romney would have created 12 million jobs. I figure he must of been planning on SOME help.

So what was it that has stopped Romney from creating 12 million new jobs all on his own?

i've already pointed to the smothering regulations of Obama.....he has no interest in helping to create new jobs.....unless they are government jobs of course....

just look at Obamacare for a great example of how his smothering regulations 'work'....the employer mandate encourages part-time jobs and not hiring more than 50 workers....paying all those new taxes doesn't encourage hiring either...not to mention businesses aren't sure what will happen so they don't plan on new projects or hiring new employees...

of course BO 'created jobs' by hiring a bunch of 'navigators' to help roll out Obamacare but these are jobs in the government sector and don't produce anything....in other words they cost us since we have to pay for them with our taxes...

Lets look at that "Obamacare". OK. You do know that there was a higher unemployment rate BEFORE Obamacare took effect? Did you know that?

And feel free to list those job destroying taxes that have been imposed on the job creators or the companies.
I just can't think of them on my own. What are they again? Those job destroying taxes that is.

You write like you spend a lot of time reading right wing talking points. Fair to say?

i think it's too early to say whether or not Obamacare creates a significant number of jobs.....other than 'navigators' as well as better programmers and healthcare consultants and lawyers to help untangle the mess....

as for Obamacare taxes....

ObamaCare Taxes That Most Likely Won't Directly Affect the Average American

• 2.3% Tax on Medical Device Manufacturers 2014

• 10% Tax on Indoor Tanning Services 2014

• Blue Cross/Blue Shield Tax Hike

• Excise Tax on Charitable Hospitals which fail to comply with the requirements of ObamaCare

• Tax on Brand Name Drugs

• Tax on Health Insurers

• $500,000 Annual Executive Compensation Limit for Health Insurance Executives

• Elimination of tax deduction for employer-provided retirement Rx drug coverage in coordination with Medicare Part D

• Employer Mandate on business with over 50 full-time equivalent employees to provide health insurance to full-time employees. $2000 per employee $3000 if employee uses tax credits to buy insurance on the exchange (marketplace). (pushed back to 2015)

• Medicare Tax on Investment Income 3.8% over $200k/$250k

• Medicare Part A Tax increase of .9% over $200k/$250k

ObamaCare Taxes That (may) Directly Affect the Average American

• 40% Excise Tax "Cadillac" on high-end Premium Health Insurance Plans 2018

• An annual $63 fee levied by ObamaCare on all plans (decreased each year until 2017 when pre-existing conditions are eliminated) to help pay for insurance companies covering the costs of high-risk pools.

• Medicine Cabinet Tax
Over the counter medicines no longer qualified as medical expenses for flexible spending accounts (FSAs), health reimbursement arrangements (HRAs), health savings accounts (HSAs), and Archer Medical Saving accounts (MSAs).

• Additional Tax on HSA/MSA Distributions
Health savings account or an Archer medical savings account, penalties for spending money on non-qualified medical expenses. 10% to 20% in the case of a HSA and from 15% to 20% in the case of a MSA.

• Flexible Spending Account Cap 2013
Contributions to FSAs are reduced to $2,500 from $5,000.

• Medical Deduction Threshold tax increase 2013
Threshold to deduct medical expenses as an itemized deduction increases to 10% from 7.5%.

• Individual Mandate (the tax for not purchasing insurance if you can afford it) 2014
Starting in 2014, anyone not buying "qualifying" health insurance must pay an income tax surtax at a rate of 1% or $95 in 2014 to 2.5% in 2016 on profitable income above the tax threshold. The total penalty amount cannot exceed the national average of the annual premiums of a "bronze level" health insurance plan on ObamaCare exchanges.

ObamaCare Tax: Full List of ObamaCare Taxes

 

[JakeStarkey]

Is America About to Reach the Breaking Point ?
Nope. The TPM is about finished, though.

 

[occupied]

Where are our job creators?

We kept taxes low and gave them all that capital gains relief....what happened to the jobs they promised?

Obama has smothered business with all his regulations....he really doesn't want America to succeed...

Romney promised 12 million new jobs.....bet he could've delivered most of them....what is Obama waiting for....?

What happened to the conservative mantra: "The government cannot create jobs"? If the president can actually create jobs without the cooperation of congress explain how. Was congress likely to pass a big jobs bill that Romney would sign? We all know the answer to that. It is much more likely they would have attacked food stamps, government employees and SS, no one can argue that it would have created any jobs at all.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Where are our job creators?

We kept taxes low and gave them all that capital gains relief....what happened to the jobs they promised?

Obama has smothered business with all his regulations....he really doesn't want America to succeed...

Romney promised 12 million new jobs.....bet he could've delivered most of them....what is Obama waiting for....?

What happened to the conservative mantra: "The government cannot create jobs"? If the president can actually create jobs without the cooperation of congress explain how. Was congress likely to pass a big jobs bill that Romney would sign? We all know the answer to that. It is much more likely they would have attacked food stamps, government employees and SS, no one can argue that it would have created any jobs at all.

no president actually creates the jobs himself......but he betters the business climate in which new jobs can be created...strangling regulations do NOT create a good business climate...

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Is America About to Reach the Breaking Point ?
Nope. The TPM is about finished, though.

i think you're wrong.....reformers on both the left and the right have plenty in common....

both need jobs
both hate the Obamacare tax
both want rule of law regarding the surveillance state
both want less centralized banks
both are fed up with Washington
etc.

 

[Indeependent]

Obama has smothered business with all his regulations....he really doesn't want America to succeed...

Romney promised 12 million new jobs.....bet he could've delivered most of them....what is Obama waiting for....?

What happened to the conservative mantra: "The government cannot create jobs"? If the president can actually create jobs without the cooperation of congress explain how. Was congress likely to pass a big jobs bill that Romney would sign? We all know the answer to that. It is much more likely they would have attacked food stamps, government employees and SS, no one can argue that it would have created any jobs at all.

no president actually creates the jobs himself......but he betters the business climate in which new jobs can be created...strangling regulations do NOT create a good business climate...

You mean all the careers and jobs that left the US during the GW Bush years?

 

[occupied]

Obama has smothered business with all his regulations....he really doesn't want America to succeed...

Romney promised 12 million new jobs.....bet he could've delivered most of them....what is Obama waiting for....?

What happened to the conservative mantra: "The government cannot create jobs"? If the president can actually create jobs without the cooperation of congress explain how. Was congress likely to pass a big jobs bill that Romney would sign? We all know the answer to that. It is much more likely they would have attacked food stamps, government employees and SS, no one can argue that it would have created any jobs at all.

no president actually creates the jobs himself......but he betters the business climate in which new jobs can be created...strangling regulations do NOT create a good business climate...

What a lousy cop-out. The business climate is awesome right now, look at wall street, they are somehow in record territory and it is not translating into record jobs, why not? Is trickle down broken? The job creators created jobs alright, in third world shit-holes. They do not need our workers and they barely need our money. What more do we need to do? Get the president to perform oral sex on the Koch brothers on TV? Now that's business friendly.

 

[OODA_Loop]

What a lousy cop-out. The business climate is awesome right now, look at wall street, they are somehow in record territory and it is not translating into record jobs, why not?

Uncertain future due to Obamacare and otherwise fear of punitive administrative policy.

 

[namvet]

Depends what we define as a breaking point

Nov 2008

 

[Darkwind]

What happened to the conservative mantra: "The government cannot create jobs"? If the president can actually create jobs without the cooperation of congress explain how. Was congress likely to pass a big jobs bill that Romney would sign? We all know the answer to that. It is much more likely they would have attacked food stamps, government employees and SS, no one can argue that it would have created any jobs at all.

no president actually creates the jobs himself......but he betters the business climate in which new jobs can be created...strangling regulations do NOT create a good business climate...

What a lousy cop-out. The business climate is awesome right now, look at wall street, they are somehow in record territory and it is not translating into record jobs, why not? Is trickle down broken? The job creators created jobs alright, in third world shit-holes. They do not need our workers and they barely need our money. What more do we need to do? Get the president to perform oral sex on the Koch brothers on TV? Now that's business friendly.

You do realize that for the past 5 years, the fed have been pumping 85 fucking BILLION dollars per MONTH into the stock market, right?

The growth has nothing to do with the business climate.

 

[occupied]

What a lousy cop-out. The business climate is awesome right now, look at wall street, they are somehow in record territory and it is not translating into record jobs, why not?

Uncertain future due to Obamacare and otherwise fear of punitive administrative policy.

Bull Shit. Consumer demand drives just about all private sector job creation, and it's just not there.

 

[Old Rocks]

Depends what we define as a breaking point

Nov 2008

Naw, 7Nov12 was a lot more fun. Wonder how many 'Conservatives' had a stroke on that day.

 

[Old Rocks]

Depends what we define as a breaking point

Nov 2008

Nov2008, Nov2012, Nov2016, Nov2020.

 

[Dot Com]

There are over 100,000 idle youth in each of our major cities....approximately 6 million in the 16 to 24-year-old age group that are not in school and not working either....violence is beginning to rear its ugly head....

Meanwhile Obama and Administration tell us that unemployment is declining and that there are job opportunities for everyone.....what a crock.....this chart says it all:

So the notion that we are experiencing an "employment recovery" is absolutely laughable.

The fact that government dependence has soared to all-time highs even in the midst of this so-called "economic recovery" is just another sign that the middle class is dying.

Congress is voting today on whether or not to extend unemployment benefits...but what is being done to address the real problem....to help create new jobs.....? Nothing as far as i can tell....in fact just the opposite....

Is this growing dependency and growing unrest actually what Obama was shooting for in the first place....? To be sure this is certainly 'transforming' America....

In America today, there are close to 50 million people living in poverty and there are more than 100 million people that get money from the federal government every month. As the middle class disintegrates, poverty is climbing to unprecedented levels. Even though the stock market has been setting record high after record high, the amount of anger and frustration boiling just under the surface in our nation grows with each passing day.

And now extended unemployment benefits have been cut off for 1.3 million unemployed Americans, and it is being projected that a total of 5 million unemployed Americans will lose their benefits by the end of 2014. In addition, as I have written about previously, 47 million Americans recently had their food stamp benefits reduced. The conditions for a "perfect storm" are certainly being created. So how much longer will it be until we see all of this anger and frustration boil over in the streets of our major cities? Is America about to reach a breaking point?

Is America About To Reach A Breaking Point? Anger Grows As Unemployment Benefits Get Cut

when you people can't win national elections MURICA is all of a sudden "at the breaking-point"

Murder totals down sharply in some big cities

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

They know the breaking point is coming. Hell,it looks like it's being done on purpose.
Why else would we need a homeland military just as strong as our military? Guns,ammo and military vehicles,the militarization of our police departments.
I find it hard to believe all this shit is just a coincidence.
Bad shits coming and they know it.

 

[occupied]

They know the breaking point is coming. Hell,it looks like it's being done on purpose.
Why else would we need a homeland military just as strong as our military? Guns,ammo and military vehicles,the militarization of our police departments.
I find it hard to believe all this shit is just a coincidence.
Bad shits coming and they know it.

It's a guarantee, most people will find out too damned late that all this partisan bickering was for naught.

 

[candycorn]

Where are our job creators?

We kept taxes low and gave them all that capital gains relief....what happened to the jobs they promised?

Obama has smothered business with all his regulations....he really doesn't want America to succeed...

Romney promised 12 million new jobs.....bet he could've delivered most of them....what is Obama waiting for....?

A "politician" made you a promise that you believed would be kept? LMAO. What are you? A turnip?

Somehow, Romney was different.