Is An Assault Rifle Necessary

[miketx]

i'm surprised you guys come out from under your beds long enough to post

I'm not surprised that you repeatedly deny reality.

Since you have not the slightest idea of what reality is, how would you know that? But the teenagers at that school in Parkland know what reality is, and they know that you would happily put their lives on the alter of the gun.

Yes the alter of the gun. How wonderful it is! I just hope one day we all have as many rights as guns do!

 

[OldLady]

i'm surprised you guys come out from under your beds long enough to post

I find you fuckin retards so humorous. You dont want to be able to protect yourself and your family, you need a corrupt failure of a govt to do it. Thats how ridiculously desperate you are. You are THAT MUCH of a coward. Yet people that want to defend themselves and their family are the scared ones?
You are a complete dipshit.
Go jerk off to cuck porn, faggot

No one is asking to take away your right to protect your family. They just don't feel people need a gun that shoots 180 rounds per minute.

 

[pismoe]

mostly agree on your other points but the way i understand things the cop is supposed to try and intervene and stop the murder with handgun or rifle Scamp .

Remember the LA riots? The police left town. 54 people were killed.

------------------------------------------------------ i don't understand your comment Scamp .

 

[miketx]

i'm surprised you guys come out from under your beds long enough to post

I find you fuckin retards so humorous. You dont want to be able to protect yourself and your family, you need a corrupt failure of a govt to do it. Thats how ridiculously desperate you are. You are THAT MUCH of a coward. Yet people that want to defend themselves and their family are the scared ones?
You are a complete dipshit.
Go jerk off to cuck porn, faggot

No one is asking to take away your right to protect your family. They just don't feel people need a gun that shoots 180 rounds per minute.

Another liar posts. No AR can shoot 180 rounds a minute. You traitors lose more credibility by the day!

 

[OldLady]

Now there a loud call to ban assault rifles. Like the AR15 that Nikolas Cruz used to kill 17 people in Parkland, FL. The banners are saying they're unecessary.One person said "You don't need 600 rounds to stop 1 intruder."

That might be true - but what about if you're confronted by a menacing crowd of people >> a gang of violent thugs, MS-13, mafia, organized crime, a mean motorcycle gang, a lynch mob who mistakes you for someone else, or maybe just a bunch of drunk, dopey, street punks.

These all sound unlikely ? Until one of these situations occurs, and then it's too late to think abot the odds of it. A machine gun may be improper as Nikolas Cruz used it, but there are some scenarios in which it would be jsut the right thing to have. In some rural areas, where wolces travel around in

Wake up. You don't even know what an assault rifle is. They were banned around 1934. No one has one but a few federally licensed collectors. What you are going after is any rifle using a clip or ammo cartridge which simplifies reloading. Rifles are almost never even used in crime. Before you ask if an "assault rifle" is necessary, you need to ask yourself if your big home is necessary, if your powerful car is necessary, if that second home or boat is necessary, if that 60 inch TV is necessary, and if three good meals a day are necessary? Please don't use that tired "but boats and cars and TV's don't kill;" neither do guns. They don't pick themselves up and shoot anyone, people do. Don't try to float that bullshit that guns were designed for and are only good for killing. Don't try to punish a hundred million honest, decent, hard-working legal people, many of whom are vets, police officers and the like for the actions of a few people. What is at stake here is the freedom to choose to do what you want to do the way you want to do it. What you are offering is fascism, loss of freedom and a police state. Nothing could be more un-American.

You're making a "nonargument" with the term 'assault rifle.' You, as well as everyone else, knows to what they are now referring. If the definition is faulty, nothing is stopping legislators from correcting it. Quora says an AR-15 can theoretically shoot 180 rounds per minute. Let's start there.

 

[OldLady]

i'm surprised you guys come out from under your beds long enough to post

I find you fuckin retards so humorous. You dont want to be able to protect yourself and your family, you need a corrupt failure of a govt to do it. Thats how ridiculously desperate you are. You are THAT MUCH of a coward. Yet people that want to defend themselves and their family are the scared ones?
You are a complete dipshit.
Go jerk off to cuck porn, faggot

No one is asking to take away your right to protect your family. They just don't feel people need a gun that shoots 180 rounds per minute.

Another liar posts. No AR can shoot 180 rounds a minute. You traitors lose more credibility by the day!

You guys told me to get educated so I googled it and that is what Quora said, miketx . This is the problem. I get a "fact" and you're still telling me I'm uneducated. Sounds to me like your response is the bullshit right now, Mike.

 

[OldLady]

According to Quora, an AR-15 can theoretically fire 180 bullets per minute. That's why anti-gunners want it so bad.

Theoretically?

The rate of fire of any semiautomatic rifle is limited by how fast a person can pull the trigger. I can fire my semiautomatic .223 ranch rifle just as fast as I can an AR 15 or any other semiautomatic rifle

3 time per second doesn't seem out of the realm for a very short time but then you have to add in magazine changes etc and you will have ZERO accuracy firing like that

This? Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle, Semi-Automatic, 5.56 NATO/.223 Remington, 18.5" Barrel, 5+1 Rounds - 637956, Semi-Automatic at Sportsman's Guide
What does capacity 5+1 mean? Accepts 5 round mags, but what is the +1?
I think that might slow down your theoretical shooting, putting in a new mag every 5 bullets?

the +1 refers to a round in the firing chamber.

All Semiautomatics can be designated as magazine capacity +1.

And IMO magazine size is irrelevant.

It doesn't slow down your trigger finger, but doesn't stopping to load a new magazine every five bullets slow down the number you can shoot in a minute? Is that what you mean by "irrelevant?"

Do you really think that making all magazines over 5 rounds in capacity illegal will stop someone from using a 30 round magazine to commit mass murder?

Where will they get it? Are you saying black market or something? Making it harder to access is a step in the right direction. People still access and create child porn, even though it is illegal. According to your argument, we shouldn't bother making child porn illegal, since there are people who will do it anyway. Maybe that's where you stand, I don't know.

 

[miketx]

i'm surprised you guys come out from under your beds long enough to post

I find you fuckin retards so humorous. You dont want to be able to protect yourself and your family, you need a corrupt failure of a govt to do it. Thats how ridiculously desperate you are. You are THAT MUCH of a coward. Yet people that want to defend themselves and their family are the scared ones?
You are a complete dipshit.
Go jerk off to cuck porn, faggot

No one is asking to take away your right to protect your family. They just don't feel people need a gun that shoots 180 rounds per minute.

Another liar posts. No AR can shoot 180 rounds a minute. You traitors lose more credibility by the day!

You guys told me to get educated so I googled it and that is what Quora said. This is the problem. I get a "fact" and you're still telling me I'm uneducated. Sounds to me like your response is the bullshit right now, Mike.

You choose to remain ignorant and post bull. It's impossible for an ar to shoot 180 rounds a minute. Who makes a 180 round magazine for it? Huh? No one that's who. Why don't you stop being willfully ignorant and go to a shooting range and ask someone to rent you one and show you how to shoot it and see how long it takes you to shoot 180 rounds? Oh wait, stains can't be expected to actually get the the truth of anything can they?

 

[Weatherman2020]

It is illegal to buy an assault rifle, dufus.

Where do these moronic posts come from ? Click the link, putz. >>

Five Assault Weapons You Can Pick up at Walmart [PHOTOS]

You retards think anything you consider scary looking is an assault rifle.

 

[miketx]

Ok, here you go. Looks like we got a confirmed liar a few post up.

 

[OldLady]

i'm surprised you guys come out from under your beds long enough to post

I find you fuckin retards so humorous. You dont want to be able to protect yourself and your family, you need a corrupt failure of a govt to do it. Thats how ridiculously desperate you are. You are THAT MUCH of a coward. Yet people that want to defend themselves and their family are the scared ones?
You are a complete dipshit.
Go jerk off to cuck porn, faggot

No one is asking to take away your right to protect your family. They just don't feel people need a gun that shoots 180 rounds per minute.

Another liar posts. No AR can shoot 180 rounds a minute. You traitors lose more credibility by the day!

You guys told me to get educated so I googled it and that is what Quora said. This is the problem. I get a "fact" and you're still telling me I'm uneducated. Sounds to me like your response is the bullshit right now, Mike.

You choose to remain ignorant and post bull. It's impossible for an ar to shoot 180 rounds a minute. Who makes a 180 round magazine for it? Huh? No one that's who. Why don't you stop being willfully ignorant and go to a shooting range and ask someone to rent you one and show you how to shoot it and see how long it takes you to shoot 180 rounds? Oh wait, stains can't be expected to actually get the the truth of anything can they?

Top Three-Gun competitors can indeed pull the trigger three times a second — for short periods of time. So the theoretical “cycling rate” might be 180 rounds per minute, but the reality is you’re only maintaining it for bursts of a second or two. That sort of firing generates tremendous amounts of heat as well. In battle, when military rifles are fired full-auto, they can get hot enough that the barrels will warp (which is why full-time machine guns have easily replaceable barrels).

Moreover, most modern semiautos use 30-round magazines, which means the mag would have to be changed six times to reach the magic 180 number. An expert can change a mag on some rifles in about two to three seconds (depending on the gun and how he/she has staged the mags), but that’s still 12–18 seconds of lost shooting time per minute. So a maximum theoretical rate of about 138 rounds per minute.
https://www.quora.com/How-many-rounds-does-a-semi-automatic-rifle-fire-per-minute

Do you know what "theoretical" means? Does 138 rounds per minute sound better? Okay, I'll go with that.

 

[OldLady]

Ok, here you go. Looks like we got a confirmed liar a few post up.

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I used the word "theoretical." Keep up.

Will it make you feel better if I start saying "AR-15's can realistically fire 90 bullets per minute.?"
I already know what I'll get--"Old Lady, ALL guns can shoot 90 bullets per minute."
IMO, that's too many. But if that number makes you feel a lot better, okay.

 

[Scamp]

mostly agree on your other points but the way i understand things the cop is supposed to try and intervene and stop the murder with handgun or rifle Scamp .

Remember the LA riots? The police left town. 54 people were killed.

------------------------------------------------------ i don't understand your comment Scamp .

What's not to understand? They had a riot. The police left town. 54 people were killed. If anyone thinks the police will protect you, or your loved ones...Think again.

 

[pismoe]

mostly agree on your other points but the way i understand things the cop is supposed to try and intervene and stop the murder with handgun or rifle Scamp .

Remember the LA riots? The police left town. 54 people were killed.

------------------------------------------------------ i don't understand your comment Scamp .

What's not to understand? They had a riot. The police left town. 54 people were killed. If anyone thinks the police will protect you, or your loved ones...Think again.

----------------------------------------------------- well , i sure do understand NOW Scamp !!

 

[miketx]

Ok, here you go. Looks like we got a confirmed liar a few post up.

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I used the word "theoretical." Keep up.

Will it make you feel better if I start saying "AR-15's can realistically fire 90 bullets per minute.?"
I already know what I'll get--"Old Lady, ALL guns can shoot 90 bullets per minute."
IMO, that's too many. But if that number makes you feel a lot better, okay.

Now the liar plays word games.

 

[Scamp]

Ok, here you go. Looks like we got a confirmed liar a few post up.

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I used the word "theoretical." Keep up.

Will it make you feel better if I start saying "AR-15's can realistically fire 90 bullets per minute.?"
I already know what I'll get--"Old Lady, ALL guns can shoot 90 bullets per minute."
IMO, that's too many. But if that number makes you feel a lot better, okay.

I have been clocked at getting off 5 rounds in one second with my Browning HP 9mm handgun. This model gun is from 1935. Just for perspective.

 

[OldLady]

Ok, here you go. Looks like we got a confirmed liar a few post up.

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I used the word "theoretical." Keep up.

Will it make you feel better if I start saying "AR-15's can realistically fire 90 bullets per minute.?"
I already know what I'll get--"Old Lady, ALL guns can shoot 90 bullets per minute."
IMO, that's too many. But if that number makes you feel a lot better, okay.

I have been clocked at getting off 5 rounds in one second with my Browning HP 9mm handgun. This model gun is from 1935. Just for perspective.

You're fast.

 

[OldLady]

Ok, here you go. Looks like we got a confirmed liar a few post up.

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I used the word "theoretical." Keep up.

Will it make you feel better if I start saying "AR-15's can realistically fire 90 bullets per minute.?"
I already know what I'll get--"Old Lady, ALL guns can shoot 90 bullets per minute."
IMO, that's too many. But if that number makes you feel a lot better, okay.

Now the liar plays word games.

LOL. What word puzzled you?

 

[TNHarley]

i'm surprised you guys come out from under your beds long enough to post

I find you fuckin retards so humorous. You dont want to be able to protect yourself and your family, you need a corrupt failure of a govt to do it. Thats how ridiculously desperate you are. You are THAT MUCH of a coward. Yet people that want to defend themselves and their family are the scared ones?
You are a complete dipshit.
Go jerk off to cuck porn, faggot

No one is asking to take away your right to protect your family. They just don't feel people need a gun that shoots 180 rounds per minute.

You obviously missed my point.
And i dont give a shit what OTHER people think i need.

 

[Skull Pilot]

i'm surprised you guys come out from under your beds long enough to post

I find you fuckin retards so humorous. You dont want to be able to protect yourself and your family, you need a corrupt failure of a govt to do it. Thats how ridiculously desperate you are. You are THAT MUCH of a coward. Yet people that want to defend themselves and their family are the scared ones?
You are a complete dipshit.
Go jerk off to cuck porn, faggot

You can't figure out how to protect your family without an AR-15?

Sure I can. How about any other semiautomatic rifle, or a handgun, or a shotgun.

Firearms the the single best tool for self defense

The single best tool for self defence is not putting yourself in the situation.

So I shouldn't put myself in my own home so no one can break in and possibly harm me or my wife?