Is Jesus the Word of God?

[MaryL]

The Word Became Flesh
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

I am an adult, been around the block a few times. Agnostic since I was 13. Mockery seems by now so cheap and meaningless and hurtful. Perhaps in an alternate part of the multiverse, Jesus is the son of god, granted. Maybe this is that universe. But...still, what kind of god just can't fix the broken world without believers believing and all that hoodoo?

Why since you were 13? What’s a multiverse? Jesus is the son of God not perhaps he is in whatever you’re talking about.

Maybe I am just an old fool. The late Steven Hawking talked about the fate of the universe, singularities, dark matter. Take a break, and investigate such nonsense. It will take your breath away...

Yeah I probably will I find space exploration fascinating

I am like that with the bible, the truth is out there and it puts me in AWE. When you fly you see the curvature of the earth, or the warmth of your child in your arms... Blake once said, you can see god in a grain of sand, heaven in a flower...I know there is more to this mere mortal coil. At least, I hope so...

 

[Taz]

Hypothetically, if I blow up the Hoover dam and the ensuing flood kills people, I'm guilty of murder. Yes or no?

Yes, you are guilty of violating the state law that covers unlawful death. God is not bound by state law, federal law, or world law. Consequently, he would not be guilty of murder, unless there is a higher law against unlawful taking of life, that he is answerable to.

"thou shall not kill". It's god's law, and he broke it.

God's law for man.

Not God's law for himself.

Where does it say that?

Where does it say God isn't allowed to kill?

Everyone is allowed to kill, it’s what happens after that counts. God being a mass murderer (the Flood) means that some people, like me, aren’t going to follow a mass murderer. We’re you also one of Charles Manson’s groupies?

 

[ding]

Like Louis C.K. Knows lol

A wise educated person he was

“Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus.”
―Thomas Jefferson

Jefferson's Religious Beliefs | Thomas Jefferson's Monticello

1813 May 31. (Jefferson to Richard Rush). "... the subject of religion, a subject on which I have ever been most scrupulously reserved. I have considered it as a matter between every man and his maker, in which no other, & far less the public, had a right to intermeddle."14

The whole history of these books [the Gospels] is so defective and doubtful that it seems vain to attempt minute enquiry into it: and such tricks have been played with their text, and with the texts of other books relating to them, that we have a right, from that cause, to entertain much doubt what parts of them are genuine. In the New Testament there is internal evidence that parts of it have proceeded from an extraordinary man; and that other parts are of the fabric of very inferior minds. It is as easy to separate those parts, as to pick out diamonds from dunghills.

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Adams, January 24, 1814

And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerve in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors.

-Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823

The way to see by Faith is to shut the Eye of Reason.

Benjamin Franklin


I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life, I absenteed myself from Christian assemblies.

Benjamin Franklin

One Nation Under God: Alexis de Tocqueville

Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America
Upon my arrival in the United States the religious aspect of the country was the first thing that struck my attention; and the longer I stayed there, the more I perceived the great political consequences resulting from this new state of things. In France I had almost always seen the spirit of religion and the spirit of freedom marching in opposite directions. But in America I found they were intimately united and that they reigned in common over the same country. Religion in America...must be regarded as the foremost of the political institutions of that country; for if it does not impart a taste for freedom, it facilitates the use of it. Indeed, it is in this same point of view that the inhabitants of the United States themselves look upon religious belief. I do not know whether all Americans have a sincere faith in their religion -- for who can search the human heart? But I am certain that they hold it to be indispensable to the maintenance of republican institutions. This opinion is not peculiar to a class of citizens or a party, but it belongs to the whole nation and to every rank of society. In the United States, the sovereign authority is religious...there is no country in the world where the Christian religion retains a greater influence over the souls of men than in America, and there can be no greater proof of its utility and of its conformity to human nature than that its influence is powerfully felt over the most enlightened and free nation of the earth. In the United States, the influence of religion is not confined to the manners, but it extends to the intelligence of the people...

Christianity, therefore, reigns without obstacle, by universal consent...

I sought for the key to the greatness and genius of America in her harbors...; in her fertile fields and boundless forests; in her rich mines and vast world commerce; in her public school system and institutions of learning. I sought for it in her democratic Congress and in her matchless Constitution Not until I went into the churches of America and heard her pulpits flame with righteousness did I understand the secret of her genius and power. America is great because America is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great. The safeguard of morality is religion, and morality is the best security of law as well as the surest pledge of freedom. The Americans combine the notions of Christianity and of liberty so intimately in their minds, that it is impossible to make them conceive the one without the other Christianity is the companion of liberty in all its conflicts -- the cradle of its infancy, and the divine source of its claims.

 

[Taz]

Words have meaning, I totally agree. "World wide flood" and "murder" come to mind. Both of which you don't know what they mean.

In the context of scripture words convey meanings that are not directly connected to the literal meanings of the words used concealing the subjects of the teaching from those who do not think very deeply as effectively if it was locked in a dark vault hidden in a secret chamber.


Are you still wondering if my dick works sweetcheeks? Is that what you really want to know?

So you're taking the bible and giving its stories another meaning than what was intended. Brah, you're a fraud, and you're completely lost, living in a made up world where words have made up meanings.

The people who wrote the bible were ignorant bubkins who thought that some invisible being actually made everything in 6 days and then drowned nearly everyone in a world wide flood that lasted 40 days. To say now that they were not ignorant because their stories mean something else is pure buffoonery. But funny.

Your ignorance is proof of nothing. You blather on about how evil the God that you do not believe exists is. What next, a rant on the evil Santa Claus and his lawlessness for breaking into people's homes? Or perhaps we can learn that there really is no egg laying Easter bunny.

So you’re comparing your god to Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny?Good for you.

Not hardly, but nice try anyway. Here is the $64,000 question. Why would you, and other obnoxious atheists, feel that it is somehow your duty to ascribe evil attributes to an entity that you do not believe exists?

I'm simply trying to understand why seemingly somewhat intelligent people believe in all the bullshit spewed out by the bible? I originally came here to see if believers had anything real to based their beliefs on, it turns out they don't, it's all just wishful thinking and fantasy. Now I'm more astonished that you folks so strongly believe these fairy tales that don't even make sense. The evil that I talk about is in the bible, I'm not ascribing anything to anyone on my own, that's done by the people who wrote the bible who said that god mass drowned on purpose everyone except Noah and his posse.

 

[ding]

The Word Became Flesh
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

I am an adult, been around the block a few times. Agnostic since I was 13. Mockery seems by now so cheap and meaningless and hurtful. Perhaps in an alternate part of the multiverse, Jesus is the son of god, granted. Maybe this is that universe. But...still, what kind of god just can't fix the broken world without believers believing and all that hoodoo?

I could refer you to Job 40 or I could tell you that even evil works for developing the good in men. But I believe the answer is that God is looking for certain results under certain conditions and that he is not the one who has placed those conditions upon us. He is using them by allowing them to refine us. Sort of like how one refines gold in the heat of a crucible, so to speak.

But regardless of all of that, To argue that the creator of existence doesn't have a reason for how things are would seem to defy logic.

 

[ding]

In the context of scripture words convey meanings that are not directly connected to the literal meanings of the words used concealing the subjects of the teaching from those who do not think very deeply as effectively if it was locked in a dark vault hidden in a secret chamber.


Are you still wondering if my dick works sweetcheeks? Is that what you really want to know?

So you're taking the bible and giving its stories another meaning than what was intended. Brah, you're a fraud, and you're completely lost, living in a made up world where words have made up meanings.

The people who wrote the bible were ignorant bubkins who thought that some invisible being actually made everything in 6 days and then drowned nearly everyone in a world wide flood that lasted 40 days. To say now that they were not ignorant because their stories mean something else is pure buffoonery. But funny.

Your ignorance is proof of nothing. You blather on about how evil the God that you do not believe exists is. What next, a rant on the evil Santa Claus and his lawlessness for breaking into people's homes? Or perhaps we can learn that there really is no egg laying Easter bunny.

So you’re comparing your god to Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny?Good for you.

Not hardly, but nice try anyway. Here is the $64,000 question. Why would you, and other obnoxious atheists, feel that it is somehow your duty to ascribe evil attributes to an entity that you do not believe exists?

I'm simply trying to understand why seemingly somewhat intelligent people believe in all the bullshit spewed out by the bible? I originally came here to see if believers had anything real to based their beliefs on, it turns out they don't, it's all just wishful thinking and fantasy. Now I'm more astonished that you folks so strongly believe these fairy tales that don't even make sense. The evil that I talk about is in the bible, I'm not ascribing anything to anyone on my own, that's done by the people who wrote the bible who said that god mass drowned on purpose everyone except Noah and his posse.

Because they promote successful behaviors which naturally lead to happiness and success.

Only an idiot would deny the functional advantage of religious beliefs.

You ever hear of natural selection?

 

[ding]

The Word Became Flesh
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

I am an adult, been around the block a few times. Agnostic since I was 13. Mockery seems by now so cheap and meaningless and hurtful. Perhaps in an alternate part of the multiverse, Jesus is the son of god, granted. Maybe this is that universe. But...still, what kind of god just can't fix the broken world without believers believing and all that hoodoo?

Why since you were 13? What’s a multiverse? Jesus is the son of God not perhaps he is in whatever you’re talking about.

Maybe I am just an old fool. The late Steven Hawking talked about the fate of the universe, singularities, dark matter. Take a break, and investigate such nonsense. It will take your breath away...

I have.

You want to take your breath away? Wrap your mind around this. Approximately 14 billion years ago, all the matter and energy in the universe - including the atoms in your body - occupied the space of 1 trillionth of 1 billionth the size of a single atom.

 

[ding]

Yes, you are guilty of violating the state law that covers unlawful death. God is not bound by state law, federal law, or world law. Consequently, he would not be guilty of murder, unless there is a higher law against unlawful taking of life, that he is answerable to.

"thou shall not kill". It's god's law, and he broke it.

God's law for man.

Not God's law for himself.

Where does it say that?

Where does it say God isn't allowed to kill?

Everyone is allowed to kill, it’s what happens after that counts. God being a mass murderer (the Flood) means that some people, like me, aren’t going to follow a mass murderer. We’re you also one of Charles Manson’s groupies?

So then you DO believe in a creator, Taz?

That's some breaking news, bro.

 

[ding]

Is it just me or does it seem like Taz is trying to use something he doesn't believe to prove something he doesn't believe?

 

[Taz]

So you're taking the bible and giving its stories another meaning than what was intended. Brah, you're a fraud, and you're completely lost, living in a made up world where words have made up meanings.

The people who wrote the bible were ignorant bubkins who thought that some invisible being actually made everything in 6 days and then drowned nearly everyone in a world wide flood that lasted 40 days. To say now that they were not ignorant because their stories mean something else is pure buffoonery. But funny.

Your ignorance is proof of nothing. You blather on about how evil the God that you do not believe exists is. What next, a rant on the evil Santa Claus and his lawlessness for breaking into people's homes? Or perhaps we can learn that there really is no egg laying Easter bunny.

So you’re comparing your god to Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny?Good for you.

Not hardly, but nice try anyway. Here is the $64,000 question. Why would you, and other obnoxious atheists, feel that it is somehow your duty to ascribe evil attributes to an entity that you do not believe exists?

I'm simply trying to understand why seemingly somewhat intelligent people believe in all the bullshit spewed out by the bible? I originally came here to see if believers had anything real to based their beliefs on, it turns out they don't, it's all just wishful thinking and fantasy. Now I'm more astonished that you folks so strongly believe these fairy tales that don't even make sense. The evil that I talk about is in the bible, I'm not ascribing anything to anyone on my own, that's done by the people who wrote the bible who said that god mass drowned on purpose everyone except Noah and his posse.

Because they promote successful behaviors which naturally lead to happiness and success.

Only an idiot would deny the functional advantage of religious beliefs.

You ever hear of natural selection?

The smartest minds usually don't believe in the god of the bible because it makes no sense.

Religion hasn't promoted successful behaviours, just look at Sharia, Crusades, Inquisition, Moromons abusing young girls, Koresh, Jim Jones, Joel Osteen, ... all the religious wars around the world today...

Please try again.Idiot.

 

[Taz]

"thou shall not kill". It's god's law, and he broke it.

God's law for man.

Not God's law for himself.

Where does it say that?

Where does it say God isn't allowed to kill?

Everyone is allowed to kill, it’s what happens after that counts. God being a mass murderer (the Flood) means that some people, like me, aren’t going to follow a mass murderer. We’re you also one of Charles Manson’s groupies?

So then you DO believe in a creator, Taz?

That's some breaking news, bro.

I believe that a creator has neither been proven nor disproven to be possible. The thinking person's position.

 

[ValerieYanez]

Is it just me or does it seem like Taz is trying to use something he doesn't believe to prove something he doesn't believe?

Yeah Taz be trippin lol

 

[ValerieYanez]

Your ignorance is proof of nothing. You blather on about how evil the God that you do not believe exists is. What next, a rant on the evil Santa Claus and his lawlessness for breaking into people's homes? Or perhaps we can learn that there really is no egg laying Easter bunny.

So you’re comparing your god to Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny?Good for you.

Not hardly, but nice try anyway. Here is the $64,000 question. Why would you, and other obnoxious atheists, feel that it is somehow your duty to ascribe evil attributes to an entity that you do not believe exists?

I'm simply trying to understand why seemingly somewhat intelligent people believe in all the bullshit spewed out by the bible? I originally came here to see if believers had anything real to based their beliefs on, it turns out they don't, it's all just wishful thinking and fantasy. Now I'm more astonished that you folks so strongly believe these fairy tales that don't even make sense. The evil that I talk about is in the bible, I'm not ascribing anything to anyone on my own, that's done by the people who wrote the bible who said that god mass drowned on purpose everyone except Noah and his posse.

Because they promote successful behaviors which naturally lead to happiness and success.

Only an idiot would deny the functional advantage of religious beliefs.

You ever hear of natural selection?

The smartest minds usually don't believe in the god of the bible because it makes no sense.

Religion hasn't promoted successful behaviours, just look at Sharia, Crusades, Inquisition, Moromons abusing young girls, Koresh, Jim Jones, Joel Osteen, ... all the religious wars around the world today...

Please try again.Idiot.

Your ignorance is proof of nothing. You blather on about how evil the God that you do not believe exists is. What next, a rant on the evil Santa Claus and his lawlessness for breaking into people's homes? Or perhaps we can learn that there really is no egg laying Easter bunny.

So you’re comparing your god to Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny?Good for you.

Not hardly, but nice try anyway. Here is the $64,000 question. Why would you, and other obnoxious atheists, feel that it is somehow your duty to ascribe evil attributes to an entity that you do not believe exists?

I'm simply trying to understand why seemingly somewhat intelligent people believe in all the bullshit spewed out by the bible? I originally came here to see if believers had anything real to based their beliefs on, it turns out they don't, it's all just wishful thinking and fantasy. Now I'm more astonished that you folks so strongly believe these fairy tales that don't even make sense. The evil that I talk about is in the bible, I'm not ascribing anything to anyone on my own, that's done by the people who wrote the bible who said that god mass drowned on purpose everyone except Noah and his posse.

Because they promote successful behaviors which naturally lead to happiness and success.

Only an idiot would deny the functional advantage of religious beliefs.

You ever hear of natural selection?

The smartest minds usually don't believe in the god of the bible because it makes no sense.

Religion hasn't promoted successful behaviours, just look at Sharia, Crusades, Inquisition, Moromons abusing young girls, Koresh, Jim Jones, Joel Osteen, ... all the religious wars around the world today...

Please try again.Idiot.

I think a lot of times people’s interpretations of the Bible aren’t correct. People take things out of context or can’t understand this or that, etc. Or perhaps people use it for monetary gain or for personal reasons. Jesus came and the religious people of the time sent him to the cross. Jesus came to overcome all of that and overcame death. We have Jesus to look to not everything you just listed.

 

[Taz]

So you’re comparing your god to Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny?Good for you.

Not hardly, but nice try anyway. Here is the $64,000 question. Why would you, and other obnoxious atheists, feel that it is somehow your duty to ascribe evil attributes to an entity that you do not believe exists?

I'm simply trying to understand why seemingly somewhat intelligent people believe in all the bullshit spewed out by the bible? I originally came here to see if believers had anything real to based their beliefs on, it turns out they don't, it's all just wishful thinking and fantasy. Now I'm more astonished that you folks so strongly believe these fairy tales that don't even make sense. The evil that I talk about is in the bible, I'm not ascribing anything to anyone on my own, that's done by the people who wrote the bible who said that god mass drowned on purpose everyone except Noah and his posse.

Because they promote successful behaviors which naturally lead to happiness and success.

Only an idiot would deny the functional advantage of religious beliefs.

You ever hear of natural selection?

The smartest minds usually don't believe in the god of the bible because it makes no sense.

Religion hasn't promoted successful behaviours, just look at Sharia, Crusades, Inquisition, Moromons abusing young girls, Koresh, Jim Jones, Joel Osteen, ... all the religious wars around the world today...

Please try again.Idiot.

So you’re comparing your god to Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny?Good for you.

Not hardly, but nice try anyway. Here is the $64,000 question. Why would you, and other obnoxious atheists, feel that it is somehow your duty to ascribe evil attributes to an entity that you do not believe exists?

I'm simply trying to understand why seemingly somewhat intelligent people believe in all the bullshit spewed out by the bible? I originally came here to see if believers had anything real to based their beliefs on, it turns out they don't, it's all just wishful thinking and fantasy. Now I'm more astonished that you folks so strongly believe these fairy tales that don't even make sense. The evil that I talk about is in the bible, I'm not ascribing anything to anyone on my own, that's done by the people who wrote the bible who said that god mass drowned on purpose everyone except Noah and his posse.

Because they promote successful behaviors which naturally lead to happiness and success.

Only an idiot would deny the functional advantage of religious beliefs.

You ever hear of natural selection?

The smartest minds usually don't believe in the god of the bible because it makes no sense.

Religion hasn't promoted successful behaviours, just look at Sharia, Crusades, Inquisition, Moromons abusing young girls, Koresh, Jim Jones, Joel Osteen, ... all the religious wars around the world today...

Please try again.Idiot.

I think a lot of times people’s interpretations of the Bible aren’t correct. People take things out of context or can’t understand this or that, etc. Or perhaps people use it for monetary gain or for personal reasons. Jesus came and the religious people of the time sent him to the cross. Jesus came to overcome all of that and overcame death. We have Jesus to look to not everything you just listed.

The bible is useless exactly because no 2 people can agree on its meaning. All it's doing is confusing everyone and pitting them against each other.

 

[james bond]

The smartest minds usually don't believe in the god of the bible because it makes no sense.

There is no "god of the bible." He is God. There is god of the Earth and it is Satan.

 

[Taz]

The smartest minds usually don't believe in the god of the bible because it makes no sense.

There is no "god of the bible." He is God. There is god of the Earth and it is Satan.

The god of the bible is made up. Maybe there is a real god, who knows?

 

[BreezeWood]

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what there is not is a being refereed to as satan, that is what the present Almighty is a reference for only the prevalence remains, evil as the primary obstacle for admission to the Everlasting.

I think a lot of times people’s interpretations of the Bible aren’t correct. People take things out of context or can’t understand this or that, etc. Or perhaps people use it for monetary gain or for personal reasons. Jesus came and the religious people of the time sent him to the cross. Jesus came to overcome all of that and overcame death. We have Jesus to look to not everything you just listed.

the 10,000 pg document itself is a forgery for purposes ascribed for diabolical interests ...

 

[ding]

Not hardly, but nice try anyway. Here is the $64,000 question. Why would you, and other obnoxious atheists, feel that it is somehow your duty to ascribe evil attributes to an entity that you do not believe exists?

I'm simply trying to understand why seemingly somewhat intelligent people believe in all the bullshit spewed out by the bible? I originally came here to see if believers had anything real to based their beliefs on, it turns out they don't, it's all just wishful thinking and fantasy. Now I'm more astonished that you folks so strongly believe these fairy tales that don't even make sense. The evil that I talk about is in the bible, I'm not ascribing anything to anyone on my own, that's done by the people who wrote the bible who said that god mass drowned on purpose everyone except Noah and his posse.

Because they promote successful behaviors which naturally lead to happiness and success.

Only an idiot would deny the functional advantage of religious beliefs.

You ever hear of natural selection?

The smartest minds usually don't believe in the god of the bible because it makes no sense.

Religion hasn't promoted successful behaviours, just look at Sharia, Crusades, Inquisition, Moromons abusing young girls, Koresh, Jim Jones, Joel Osteen, ... all the religious wars around the world today...

Please try again.Idiot.

Not hardly, but nice try anyway. Here is the $64,000 question. Why would you, and other obnoxious atheists, feel that it is somehow your duty to ascribe evil attributes to an entity that you do not believe exists?

I'm simply trying to understand why seemingly somewhat intelligent people believe in all the bullshit spewed out by the bible? I originally came here to see if believers had anything real to based their beliefs on, it turns out they don't, it's all just wishful thinking and fantasy. Now I'm more astonished that you folks so strongly believe these fairy tales that don't even make sense. The evil that I talk about is in the bible, I'm not ascribing anything to anyone on my own, that's done by the people who wrote the bible who said that god mass drowned on purpose everyone except Noah and his posse.

Because they promote successful behaviors which naturally lead to happiness and success.

Only an idiot would deny the functional advantage of religious beliefs.

You ever hear of natural selection?

The smartest minds usually don't believe in the god of the bible because it makes no sense.

Religion hasn't promoted successful behaviours, just look at Sharia, Crusades, Inquisition, Moromons abusing young girls, Koresh, Jim Jones, Joel Osteen, ... all the religious wars around the world today...

Please try again.Idiot.

I think a lot of times people’s interpretations of the Bible aren’t correct. People take things out of context or can’t understand this or that, etc. Or perhaps people use it for monetary gain or for personal reasons. Jesus came and the religious people of the time sent him to the cross. Jesus came to overcome all of that and overcame death. We have Jesus to look to not everything you just listed.

The bible is useless exactly because no 2 people can agree on its meaning. All it's doing is confusing everyone and pitting them against each other.

For you it is useless because you read it for uselessness.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

no.

The word of god is "covfefe".

 

[ding]

Your ignorance is proof of nothing. You blather on about how evil the God that you do not believe exists is. What next, a rant on the evil Santa Claus and his lawlessness for breaking into people's homes? Or perhaps we can learn that there really is no egg laying Easter bunny.

So you’re comparing your god to Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny?Good for you.

Not hardly, but nice try anyway. Here is the $64,000 question. Why would you, and other obnoxious atheists, feel that it is somehow your duty to ascribe evil attributes to an entity that you do not believe exists?

I'm simply trying to understand why seemingly somewhat intelligent people believe in all the bullshit spewed out by the bible? I originally came here to see if believers had anything real to based their beliefs on, it turns out they don't, it's all just wishful thinking and fantasy. Now I'm more astonished that you folks so strongly believe these fairy tales that don't even make sense. The evil that I talk about is in the bible, I'm not ascribing anything to anyone on my own, that's done by the people who wrote the bible who said that god mass drowned on purpose everyone except Noah and his posse.

Because they promote successful behaviors which naturally lead to happiness and success.

Only an idiot would deny the functional advantage of religious beliefs.

You ever hear of natural selection?

The smartest minds usually don't believe in the god of the bible because it makes no sense.

Religion hasn't promoted successful behaviours, just look at Sharia, Crusades, Inquisition, Moromons abusing young girls, Koresh, Jim Jones, Joel Osteen, ... all the religious wars around the world today...

Please try again.Idiot.

Bless your heart, taz. I'm not the one who is trying to make himself feel superior to others. That would be you, bro.

I'm just the one proving that you aren't.