Is Our Soon to be First Lady a Positive Role Model

Would you want your daughters to do what Melania Trump has done?

  • I don't care if she posed like a two-bit whore. She's Hot

    Votes: 4 21.1%
  • I believe it doesn't matter

    Votes: 13 68.4%
  • I want my daughter to mimic Melania

    Votes: 2 10.5%

  • Total voters
    19
You don't care about Melanie? Yeah right. Michele remained calm for 8 years from never ending attacks.
Are you saying that the rightist really wanted to have a First Lady that is marked whore and a slut? Are you proud of her?
I know lots of real republicans. You are very wrong.

If you have a daughter or granddaughters....... can you honestly tell them that she is a model First Lady? I know I can't.

Probably a good idea you move then ... since she's going to be here for 8 years, I'm not sure you could stand the pressure.

You didn't answer my question.
Oh don't worry I can stand the pressure..... but I'm not sure how Americans can accept a First Lady with a reputation as a whore/slut. Just imagine going overseas looking at this woman with that kind of reputation representing women of USA.
Its embarrassing don't you think?

Since she doesn't have a reputation of a whore/slut --- unless you're 14 years old --- it's a non-issue.

Yes it is and yes she is.

And Bill Clinton is what? Why the double standard between men and women?

Please stop quoting me.
 
Probably a good idea you move then ... since she's going to be here for 8 years, I'm not sure you could stand the pressure.

You didn't answer my question.
Oh don't worry I can stand the pressure..... but I'm not sure how Americans can accept a First Lady with a reputation as a whore/slut. Just imagine going overseas looking at this woman with that kind of reputation representing women of USA.
Its embarrassing don't you think?

Since she doesn't have a reputation of a whore/slut --- unless you're 14 years old --- it's a non-issue.

Yes it is and yes she is.

And Bill Clinton is what? Why the double standard between men and women?

Please stop quoting me.

I can do what I want to, you post ignorance, stupidity and sexism and I can show how retarded your comments are and call you out. If you don't like it, don't post stupid crap. Pretty simple moron.
 
Probably a good idea you move then ... since she's going to be here for 8 years, I'm not sure you could stand the pressure.

You didn't answer my question.
Oh don't worry I can stand the pressure..... but I'm not sure how Americans can accept a First Lady with a reputation as a whore/slut. Just imagine going overseas looking at this woman with that kind of reputation representing women of USA.
Its embarrassing don't you think?

Since she doesn't have a reputation of a whore/slut --- unless you're 14 years old --- it's a non-issue.

Yes it is and yes she is.

So, what you are saying is ....

any woman who poses for a nude picture is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a man before marriage is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a married man is a whore/slut.

Have I got that right????

So .... know ANY woman that you wouldn't call a whore/slut?

I don't ..

If you are talking about ordinary women who don't have anything to represent. That's fine.
FLOTUS is a different story.
Probably a good idea you move then ... since she's going to be here for 8 years, I'm not sure you could stand the pressure.

You didn't answer my question.
Oh don't worry I can stand the pressure..... but I'm not sure how Americans can accept a First Lady with a reputation as a whore/slut. Just imagine going overseas looking at this woman with that kind of reputation representing women of USA.
Its embarrassing don't you think?

Since she doesn't have a reputation of a whore/slut --- unless you're 14 years old --- it's a non-issue.

Yes it is and yes she is.

So, what you are saying is ....

any woman who poses for a nude picture is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a man before marriage is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a married man is a whore/slut.

Have I got that right????

So .... know ANY woman that you wouldn't call a whore/slut?

I don't ..

If you are talking about ordinary women who don't have anything to represent. That's fine.
FLOTUS is a different story.

Do you even realize how ridiculous that sounds?

But, I got to admit I love your smug, self righteous, superior attitude..Tells us everything we need to know about you.
 
You didn't answer my question.
Oh don't worry I can stand the pressure..... but I'm not sure how Americans can accept a First Lady with a reputation as a whore/slut. Just imagine going overseas looking at this woman with that kind of reputation representing women of USA.
Its embarrassing don't you think?

Since she doesn't have a reputation of a whore/slut --- unless you're 14 years old --- it's a non-issue.

Yes it is and yes she is.

And Bill Clinton is what? Why the double standard between men and women?

Please stop quoting me.

I can do what I want to, you post ignorance, stupidity and sexism and I can show how retarded your comments are and call you out. If you don't like it, don't post stupid crap. Pretty simple moron.

I told you before. I'm going to tell you again. Stupid fuck. Stop quoting me.
 
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You didn't answer my question.
Oh don't worry I can stand the pressure..... but I'm not sure how Americans can accept a First Lady with a reputation as a whore/slut. Just imagine going overseas looking at this woman with that kind of reputation representing women of USA.
Its embarrassing don't you think?

Since she doesn't have a reputation of a whore/slut --- unless you're 14 years old --- it's a non-issue.

Yes it is and yes she is.

So, what you are saying is ....

any woman who poses for a nude picture is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a man before marriage is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a married man is a whore/slut.

Have I got that right????

So .... know ANY woman that you wouldn't call a whore/slut?

I don't ..

If you are talking about ordinary women who don't have anything to represent. That's fine.
FLOTUS is a different story.
You didn't answer my question.
Oh don't worry I can stand the pressure..... but I'm not sure how Americans can accept a First Lady with a reputation as a whore/slut. Just imagine going overseas looking at this woman with that kind of reputation representing women of USA.
Its embarrassing don't you think?

Since she doesn't have a reputation of a whore/slut --- unless you're 14 years old --- it's a non-issue.

Yes it is and yes she is.

So, what you are saying is ....

any woman who poses for a nude picture is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a man before marriage is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a married man is a whore/slut.

Have I got that right????

So .... know ANY woman that you wouldn't call a whore/slut?

I don't ..

If you are talking about ordinary women who don't have anything to represent. That's fine.
FLOTUS is a different story.

Do you even realize how ridiculous that sounds?

But, I got to admit I love your smug, self righteous, superior attitude..Tells us everything we need to know about you.

Nope. I stand what I say. If you think that FLOTUS posed nude is acceptable to you and your retarded buddy that is your call.
But it's not acceptable to me and most of the real republicans that I know.
Since when this is acceptable ............ just because she is beautiful?

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Since she doesn't have a reputation of a whore/slut --- unless you're 14 years old --- it's a non-issue.

Yes it is and yes she is.

So, what you are saying is ....

any woman who poses for a nude picture is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a man before marriage is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a married man is a whore/slut.

Have I got that right????

So .... know ANY woman that you wouldn't call a whore/slut?

I don't ..

If you are talking about ordinary women who don't have anything to represent. That's fine.
FLOTUS is a different story.
Since she doesn't have a reputation of a whore/slut --- unless you're 14 years old --- it's a non-issue.

Yes it is and yes she is.

So, what you are saying is ....

any woman who poses for a nude picture is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a man before marriage is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a married man is a whore/slut.

Have I got that right????

So .... know ANY woman that you wouldn't call a whore/slut?

I don't ..

If you are talking about ordinary women who don't have anything to represent. That's fine.
FLOTUS is a different story.

Do you even realize how ridiculous that sounds?

But, I got to admit I love your smug, self righteous, superior attitude..Tells us everything we need to know about you.

Nope. I stand what I say. If you think that FLOTUS posed nude is acceptable to you and your retarded buddy that is your call.
But it's not acceptable to me and most of the real republicans that I know.
Since when this is acceptable ............ just because she is beautiful?

31c7ba009385c4e756ddd8f2b3516a54.png

No --- I would suggest that the "real Republicans" you claim to know aren't Republicans at all.

All I can say is if this is the best objection you can raise to the Trump election, you'rein pretty bad shape.

I suppose you strongly object to the following, huh?

Francisco de Goya’s “The Nude Maja”

o-GOYA-900.jpg


This circa-1800 painting will go down in history as “the first totally profane life-size female nude in Western art“ — thought to be at least one of the first explicit depictions of female pubic hair. At the time of its creation, the Catholic Church banned the display of artistic nudes, so Goya’s nude woman and its more modest counterpart, “The Clothed Maja,” were never exhibited publicly during the artist’s lifetime.

Katsushika Hokusai’s “The Dream of the Fisherman’s Wife”

o-OCTOPUS-900.jpg


There’s almost no ambiguity regarding the erotic nature of this painting. The print — a perfect example of Japanese shunga art — depicts a fisherman’s wife deriving pleasure from a rather unique encounter with an octopus. But do you recognize the artist’s name? Yes, the man behind “The Great Wave off Kanagawa“ had more than landscape likenesses up his sleeve.

Hieronymus Bosch’s “The Garden of Earthly Delights”

o-BOSCH-900.jpg


OK, so you may associate “The Garden of Earthly Delights” with its array of terrifying, otherworldly creatures, but the painting has its fair share of sensual details. Dating from between 1490 and 1510, the work plays host to a whole carnival of sins, including the acts in the image above, in which nude men and women are seen frolicking with each other, horses, birds, mermaids, plants... you name it. Writer Laurinda S. Dixon described it as teeming with “a certain adolescent sexual curiosity.”

Paul Cezanne’s “Seven Bathers”

o-CEZANNE-900.jpg


Cezanne is well known for his various images of nude bathers, many of whom were women. “Seven bathers,” however, portrays the figures of nude men — though some are rather androgynously rendered. This scene of beautifully crafted male bodies is surely not the most erotic of subject matter, but the ways in which the artist toyed with classical representations of the body and the relationship between the viewer’s gaze and nakedness makes for a borderline erotic aesthetic. It is assumed that Cezanne, due to a lack of available models, painted this from memory or imagination.

Titian’s “Venus of Urbino”

o-URBINO-900.jpg


Mark Twain once called Titian’s Venus “the foulest, the vilest, the obscenest picture the world possesses.” With her unabashed nudity and strong gaze into the viewers’ eyes, the nude female in this 1538 work of art is undeniably erotic.

Gustav Klimt’s “Frau bei der Selbstbefriedigung”

original.jpg


Klimt, the Austrian symbolist painter with a penchant for gilded canvases, brought you uber-famous works like “The Kiss“ and his portrait of Adele Bloch-Bauer I. While those images, not to mention the many nude figures that populate his other paintings, exude sensuality, there’s nothing quite as erotic as “Frau bei der Selbstbefriedigung.”

Peter Paul Rubens’s copy of Michelangelo’s “Leda and the Swan”

original.jpg


For early 17th century audiences, it was likely more acceptable for a woman to be shown engaging in explicit acts with a bird than with an actual human being. Hence, “Leda and the Swan,” based on the Greek myth in which Zeus takes the form of a swan and “seduces” a woman named Leda. Artists like Cesare da Sesto and Cezanne also chose the crude story as inspiration for paintings.

Miyagawa Isshō’s “Spring Pastimes”

original.jpg


Created in 1750, this shunga scroll depicts a tryst between two men, one likely a samurai and the other a kabuki actor taking on a sexualized female role.

Édouard Manet’s “Olympia”

o-MANET-900.jpg


Look familiar? Manet’s 1863 painting is based roughly on Titian’s “Venus” and Goya’s “Nude Maja.” According to accounts from writer Antonin Proust, the painting of a sex worker was so scandalous that “only the precautions taken by the administration prevented the painting being punctured and torn“ at its debut exhibition.

Jean-Honoré Fragonard’s “The Swing”

o-FRAG-900.jpg


This Rococo masterpiece from 1767 is full of symbolism, all of which centers on a young woman’s extramarital affair. See that man hidden in the bushes on the left side of the canvas? He’s not only on the receiving end of that kicked-off shoe, he’s also getting quite a peek up the woman’s dress. Erotic? Maybe. We’d settle for 18th-century creepy.

Pablo Picasso’s “Les Demoiselles d’Avignon (The Young Ladies of Avignon)”

o-AVIGNON-900.jpg


Picasso’s famous Primitivist painting portrays five nude sex workers allegedly from a brothel in Barcelona. With their unconventional female forms and relentless gazes, the image is a proto-Cubist version of erotica.

Egon Schiele’s “Friendship”

original.jpg


Despite the title, there’s a underlying sense of sexuality in Schiele’s depiction of two naked individuals, embracing in a twist of line and form reminiscent of the great Austrian painter’s intense figurative works.

Diego Velázquez’s “Rokeby Venus”

original.jpg


Call it “The Toilet of Venus,” “Venus at her Mirror,” “Venus and Cupid,” or “La Venus del Espejo,” Velázquez’s nude painting shows a woman deriving pleasure from the site of her own naked self. For a painting made between 1647 and 1651 — a time period marked by the Spanish public’s disdain for naked bodies in art — the work was on the salacious side. (In case you were wondering, Titian and Rubens also made their own versions of Venus at a mirror.)

Gustave Courbet’s “L’Origine du monde (The Origin of the World)”

o-ORIGIN-OF-THE-WORLD-900.jpg




Just filth, isn't it? Absolute pornography, right?

Your self righteousness is disgusting. For some reason, you insist that FLOTUS must sit on some arbitrary pedestal you have created in your own twisted mind.

Would it surprise you to know that Jackie Kennedy wasn't a virgin when she got married? Or, that Laura Bush wasn't either? Maybe you don't know that Michelle Obama - OMG - had some 'boyfriends' in college before she met ol' Barak.

Your chauvinistic attitude is embarrassing - and to the ladies who read this, most of us don't think like this provincial, puritanical putz.
 
Since she doesn't have a reputation of a whore/slut --- unless you're 14 years old --- it's a non-issue.

Yes it is and yes she is.

And Bill Clinton is what? Why the double standard between men and women?

Please stop quoting me.

I can do what I want to, you post ignorance, stupidity and sexism and I can show how retarded your comments are and call you out. If you don't like it, don't post stupid crap. Pretty simple moron.

I told you before. I'm going to tell you again. Stupid fuck. Stop quoting me.

Report me, again if you don't like it, don't posted stupid stuff.
 
I have never known anyone who looked at the first lady as a role model. I suppose there might be a few people out there who do, but I don't think that's too common.
I thought many black girls took Michelle Obama as a role model. I am not that sure about Bush's wife, but I heard she was a model house wife. In any case, if Melania is a role model, looking good is never bad.

So you are only after the good looks? Is that good enough?

American women are already chewed up. The only worse nations are those Muslim ones in the Middle East that break their women with burkas. I am puzzled, why Americans hate women, including especially their own women? Is this the source of American perversions?

Americans don't hate women... This has nothing to do with burkas.

Then I understand. Americans don't recognize that Melania is a woman because they don't see a pot belly on her. But then, shouldn't they put her in the LGBT category, which they all obey nationally?
 
Yes it is and yes she is.

So, what you are saying is ....

any woman who poses for a nude picture is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a man before marriage is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a married man is a whore/slut.

Have I got that right????

So .... know ANY woman that you wouldn't call a whore/slut?

I don't ..

If you are talking about ordinary women who don't have anything to represent. That's fine.
FLOTUS is a different story.
Yes it is and yes she is.

So, what you are saying is ....

any woman who poses for a nude picture is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a man before marriage is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a married man is a whore/slut.

Have I got that right????

So .... know ANY woman that you wouldn't call a whore/slut?

I don't ..

If you are talking about ordinary women who don't have anything to represent. That's fine.
FLOTUS is a different story.

Do you even realize how ridiculous that sounds?

But, I got to admit I love your smug, self righteous, superior attitude..Tells us everything we need to know about you.

Nope. I stand what I say. If you think that FLOTUS posed nude is acceptable to you and your retarded buddy that is your call.
But it's not acceptable to me and most of the real republicans that I know.
Since when this is acceptable ............ just because she is beautiful?

31c7ba009385c4e756ddd8f2b3516a54.png

No --- I would suggest that the "real Republicans" you claim to know aren't Republicans at all.

All I can say is if this is the best objection you can raise to the Trump election, you'rein pretty bad shape.

I suppose you strongly object to the following, huh?

Francisco de Goya’s “The Nude Maja”

o-GOYA-900.jpg


This circa-1800 painting will go down in history as “the first totally profane life-size female nude in Western art“ — thought to be at least one of the first explicit depictions of female pubic hair. At the time of its creation, the Catholic Church banned the display of artistic nudes, so Goya’s nude woman and its more modest counterpart, “The Clothed Maja,” were never exhibited publicly during the artist’s lifetime.

Katsushika Hokusai’s “The Dream of the Fisherman’s Wife”

o-OCTOPUS-900.jpg


There’s almost no ambiguity regarding the erotic nature of this painting. The print — a perfect example of Japanese shunga art — depicts a fisherman’s wife deriving pleasure from a rather unique encounter with an octopus. But do you recognize the artist’s name? Yes, the man behind “The Great Wave off Kanagawa“ had more than landscape likenesses up his sleeve.

Hieronymus Bosch’s “The Garden of Earthly Delights”

o-BOSCH-900.jpg


OK, so you may associate “The Garden of Earthly Delights” with its array of terrifying, otherworldly creatures, but the painting has its fair share of sensual details. Dating from between 1490 and 1510, the work plays host to a whole carnival of sins, including the acts in the image above, in which nude men and women are seen frolicking with each other, horses, birds, mermaids, plants... you name it. Writer Laurinda S. Dixon described it as teeming with “a certain adolescent sexual curiosity.”

Paul Cezanne’s “Seven Bathers”

o-CEZANNE-900.jpg


Cezanne is well known for his various images of nude bathers, many of whom were women. “Seven bathers,” however, portrays the figures of nude men — though some are rather androgynously rendered. This scene of beautifully crafted male bodies is surely not the most erotic of subject matter, but the ways in which the artist toyed with classical representations of the body and the relationship between the viewer’s gaze and nakedness makes for a borderline erotic aesthetic. It is assumed that Cezanne, due to a lack of available models, painted this from memory or imagination.

Titian’s “Venus of Urbino”

o-URBINO-900.jpg


Mark Twain once called Titian’s Venus “the foulest, the vilest, the obscenest picture the world possesses.” With her unabashed nudity and strong gaze into the viewers’ eyes, the nude female in this 1538 work of art is undeniably erotic.

Gustav Klimt’s “Frau bei der Selbstbefriedigung”

original.jpg


Klimt, the Austrian symbolist painter with a penchant for gilded canvases, brought you uber-famous works like “The Kiss“ and his portrait of Adele Bloch-Bauer I. While those images, not to mention the many nude figures that populate his other paintings, exude sensuality, there’s nothing quite as erotic as “Frau bei der Selbstbefriedigung.”

Peter Paul Rubens’s copy of Michelangelo’s “Leda and the Swan”

original.jpg


For early 17th century audiences, it was likely more acceptable for a woman to be shown engaging in explicit acts with a bird than with an actual human being. Hence, “Leda and the Swan,” based on the Greek myth in which Zeus takes the form of a swan and “seduces” a woman named Leda. Artists like Cesare da Sesto and Cezanne also chose the crude story as inspiration for paintings.

Miyagawa Isshō’s “Spring Pastimes”

original.jpg


Created in 1750, this shunga scroll depicts a tryst between two men, one likely a samurai and the other a kabuki actor taking on a sexualized female role.

Édouard Manet’s “Olympia”

o-MANET-900.jpg


Look familiar? Manet’s 1863 painting is based roughly on Titian’s “Venus” and Goya’s “Nude Maja.” According to accounts from writer Antonin Proust, the painting of a sex worker was so scandalous that “only the precautions taken by the administration prevented the painting being punctured and torn“ at its debut exhibition.

Jean-Honoré Fragonard’s “The Swing”

o-FRAG-900.jpg


This Rococo masterpiece from 1767 is full of symbolism, all of which centers on a young woman’s extramarital affair. See that man hidden in the bushes on the left side of the canvas? He’s not only on the receiving end of that kicked-off shoe, he’s also getting quite a peek up the woman’s dress. Erotic? Maybe. We’d settle for 18th-century creepy.

Pablo Picasso’s “Les Demoiselles d’Avignon (The Young Ladies of Avignon)”

o-AVIGNON-900.jpg


Picasso’s famous Primitivist painting portrays five nude sex workers allegedly from a brothel in Barcelona. With their unconventional female forms and relentless gazes, the image is a proto-Cubist version of erotica.

Egon Schiele’s “Friendship”

original.jpg


Despite the title, there’s a underlying sense of sexuality in Schiele’s depiction of two naked individuals, embracing in a twist of line and form reminiscent of the great Austrian painter’s intense figurative works.

Diego Velázquez’s “Rokeby Venus”

original.jpg


Call it “The Toilet of Venus,” “Venus at her Mirror,” “Venus and Cupid,” or “La Venus del Espejo,” Velázquez’s nude painting shows a woman deriving pleasure from the site of her own naked self. For a painting made between 1647 and 1651 — a time period marked by the Spanish public’s disdain for naked bodies in art — the work was on the salacious side. (In case you were wondering, Titian and Rubens also made their own versions of Venus at a mirror.)

Gustave Courbet’s “L’Origine du monde (The Origin of the World)”

o-ORIGIN-OF-THE-WORLD-900.jpg




Just filth, isn't it? Absolute pornography, right?

Your self righteousness is disgusting. For some reason, you insist that FLOTUS must sit on some arbitrary pedestal you have created in your own twisted mind.

Would it surprise you to know that Jackie Kennedy wasn't a virgin when she got married? Or, that Laura Bush wasn't either? Maybe you don't know that Michelle Obama - OMG - had some 'boyfriends' in college before she met ol' Barak.

Your chauvinistic attitude is embarrassing - and to the ladies who read this, most of us don't think like this provincial, puritanical putz.
I think there have been a few medical PhDs written about the puritanistic reactions to female art. We could write one more.
 
Why are fine art paintings being compared to soft porn photographs? How are they related?
 
This thread will never die, will it, with all you horny assholes pretending to be arguing over "art" v. "porn" and whether the First Lady is acceptable. You're all here to look at the pictures.
Not fooling anyone, boys.
 
Yes it is and yes she is.

So, what you are saying is ....

any woman who poses for a nude picture is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a man before marriage is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a married man is a whore/slut.

Have I got that right????

So .... know ANY woman that you wouldn't call a whore/slut?

I don't ..

If you are talking about ordinary women who don't have anything to represent. That's fine.
FLOTUS is a different story.
Yes it is and yes she is.

So, what you are saying is ....

any woman who poses for a nude picture is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a man before marriage is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a married man is a whore/slut.

Have I got that right????

So .... know ANY woman that you wouldn't call a whore/slut?

I don't ..

If you are talking about ordinary women who don't have anything to represent. That's fine.
FLOTUS is a different story.

Do you even realize how ridiculous that sounds?

But, I got to admit I love your smug, self righteous, superior attitude..Tells us everything we need to know about you.

Nope. I stand what I say. If you think that FLOTUS posed nude is acceptable to you and your retarded buddy that is your call.
But it's not acceptable to me and most of the real republicans that I know.
Since when this is acceptable ............ just because she is beautiful?

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No --- I would suggest that the "real Republicans" you claim to know aren't Republicans at all.

All I can say is if this is the best objection you can raise to the Trump election, you'rein pretty bad shape.

I suppose you strongly object to the following, huh?

There’s almost no ambiguity regarding the erotic nature of this painting. The print — a perfect example of Japanese shunga art — depicts a fisherman’s wife deriving pleasure from a rather unique encounter with an octopus. But do you recognize the artist’s name? Yes, the man behind “The Great Wave off Kanagawa“ had more than landscape likenesses up his sleeve.

Cezanne is well known for his various images of nude bathers, many of whom were women. “Seven bathers,” however, portrays the figures of nude men — though some are rather androgynously rendered. This scene of beautifully crafted male bodies is surely not the most erotic of subject matter, but the ways in which the artist toyed with classical representations of the body and the relationship between the viewer’s gaze and nakedness makes for a borderline erotic aesthetic. It is assumed that Cezanne, due to a lack of available models, painted this from memory or

Just filth, isn't it? Absolute pornography, right?

Your self righteousness is disgusting. For some reason, you insist that FLOTUS must sit on some arbitrary pedestal you have created in your own twisted mind.

Would it surprise you to know that Jackie Kennedy wasn't a virgin when she got married? Or, that Laura Bush wasn't either? Maybe you don't know that Michelle Obama - OMG - had some 'boyfriends' in college before she met ol' Barak.

Your chauvinistic attitude is embarrassing - and to the ladies who read this, most of us don't think like this provincial, puritanical putz.

You did not answer my question?

What is this has anything do with future FLOTUS?
 
I have never known anyone who looked at the first lady as a role model. I suppose there might be a few people out there who do, but I don't think that's too common.
I thought many black girls took Michelle Obama as a role model. I am not that sure about Bush's wife, but I heard she was a model house wife. In any case, if Melania is a role model, looking good is never bad.

So you are only after the good looks? Is that good enough?

American women are already chewed up. The only worse nations are those Muslim ones in the Middle East that break their women with burkas. I am puzzled, why Americans hate women, including especially their own women? Is this the source of American perversions?

Americans don't hate women... This has nothing to do with burkas.

Then I understand. Americans don't recognize that Melania is a woman because they don't see a pot belly on her. But then, shouldn't they put her in the LGBT category, which they all obey nationally?

This has nothing to do with h burkas LGBT.
 
So, what you are saying is ....

any woman who poses for a nude picture is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a man before marriage is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a married man is a whore/slut.

Have I got that right????

So .... know ANY woman that you wouldn't call a whore/slut?

I don't ..

If you are talking about ordinary women who don't have anything to represent. That's fine.
FLOTUS is a different story.
So, what you are saying is ....

any woman who poses for a nude picture is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a man before marriage is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a married man is a whore/slut.

Have I got that right????

So .... know ANY woman that you wouldn't call a whore/slut?

I don't ..

If you are talking about ordinary women who don't have anything to represent. That's fine.
FLOTUS is a different story.

Do you even realize how ridiculous that sounds?

But, I got to admit I love your smug, self righteous, superior attitude..Tells us everything we need to know about you.

Nope. I stand what I say. If you think that FLOTUS posed nude is acceptable to you and your retarded buddy that is your call.
But it's not acceptable to me and most of the real republicans that I know.
Since when this is acceptable ............ just because she is beautiful?

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No --- I would suggest that the "real Republicans" you claim to know aren't Republicans at all.

All I can say is if this is the best objection you can raise to the Trump election, you'rein pretty bad shape.

I suppose you strongly object to the following, huh?

There’s almost no ambiguity regarding the erotic nature of this painting. The print — a perfect example of Japanese shunga art — depicts a fisherman’s wife deriving pleasure from a rather unique encounter with an octopus. But do you recognize the artist’s name? Yes, the man behind “The Great Wave off Kanagawa“ had more than landscape likenesses up his sleeve.

Cezanne is well known for his various images of nude bathers, many of whom were women. “Seven bathers,” however, portrays the figures of nude men — though some are rather androgynously rendered. This scene of beautifully crafted male bodies is surely not the most erotic of subject matter, but the ways in which the artist toyed with classical representations of the body and the relationship between the viewer’s gaze and nakedness makes for a borderline erotic aesthetic. It is assumed that Cezanne, due to a lack of available models, painted this from memory or

Just filth, isn't it? Absolute pornography, right?

Your self righteousness is disgusting. For some reason, you insist that FLOTUS must sit on some arbitrary pedestal you have created in your own twisted mind.

Would it surprise you to know that Jackie Kennedy wasn't a virgin when she got married? Or, that Laura Bush wasn't either? Maybe you don't know that Michelle Obama - OMG - had some 'boyfriends' in college before she met ol' Barak.

Your chauvinistic attitude is embarrassing - and to the ladies who read this, most of us don't think like this provincial, puritanical putz.

You did not answer my question?

What is this has anything do with future FLOTUS?
So, what you are saying is ....

any woman who poses for a nude picture is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a man before marriage is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a married man is a whore/slut.

Have I got that right????

So .... know ANY woman that you wouldn't call a whore/slut?

I don't ..

If you are talking about ordinary women who don't have anything to represent. That's fine.
FLOTUS is a different story.
So, what you are saying is ....

any woman who poses for a nude picture is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a man before marriage is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a married man is a whore/slut.

Have I got that right????

So .... know ANY woman that you wouldn't call a whore/slut?

I don't ..

If you are talking about ordinary women who don't have anything to represent. That's fine.
FLOTUS is a different story.

Do you even realize how ridiculous that sounds?

But, I got to admit I love your smug, self righteous, superior attitude..Tells us everything we need to know about you.

Nope. I stand what I say. If you think that FLOTUS posed nude is acceptable to you and your retarded buddy that is your call.
But it's not acceptable to me and most of the real republicans that I know.
Since when this is acceptable ............ just because she is beautiful?

IMG]

No --- I would suggest that the "real Republicans" you claim to know aren't Republicans at all.

All I can say is if this is the best objection you can raise to the Trump election, you'rein pretty bad shape.

I suppose you strongly object to the following, huh?

There’s almost no ambiguity regarding the erotic nature of this painting. The print — a perfect example of Japanese shunga art — depicts a fisherman’s wife deriving pleasure from a rather unique encounter with an octopus. But do you recognize the artist’s name? Yes, the man behind “The Great Wave off Kanagawa“ had more than landscape likenesses up his sleeve.

Cezanne is well known for his various images of nude bathers, many of whom were women. “Seven bathers,” however, portrays the figures of nude men — though some are rather androgynously rendered. This scene of beautifully crafted male bodies is surely not the most erotic of subject matter, but the ways in which the artist toyed with classical representations of the body and the relationship between the viewer’s gaze and nakedness makes for a borderline erotic aesthetic. It is assumed that Cezanne, due to a lack of available models, painted this from memory or

Just filth, isn't it? Absolute pornography, right?

Your self righteousness is disgusting. For some reason, you insist that FLOTUS must sit on some arbitrary pedestal you have created in your own twisted mind.

Would it surprise you to know that Jackie Kennedy wasn't a virgin when she got married? Or, that Laura Bush wasn't either? Maybe you don't know that Michelle Obama - OMG - had some 'boyfriends' in college before she met ol' Barak.

Your chauvinistic attitude is embarrassing - and to the ladies who read this, most of us don't think like this provincial, puritanical putz.

You did not answer my question?

What is this has anything do with future FLOTUS?

I have read all the protestations about the whore/slut moving into the White House, and you call her that because she appeared nude in some artful pictures.

Now, you see art - is that porn, too?

Methinks it has nothing to do with the FLOTUS2B's personal actions - it has to do with the butthurt you got because you've been rejected by the American voter.
 
Yes it is and yes she is.

So, what you are saying is ....

any woman who poses for a nude picture is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a man before marriage is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a married man is a whore/slut.

Have I got that right????

So .... know ANY woman that you wouldn't call a whore/slut?

I don't ..

If you are talking about ordinary women who don't have anything to represent. That's fine.
FLOTUS is a different story.
Yes it is and yes she is.

So, what you are saying is ....

any woman who poses for a nude picture is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a man before marriage is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a married man is a whore/slut.

Have I got that right????

So .... know ANY woman that you wouldn't call a whore/slut?

I don't ..

If you are talking about ordinary women who don't have anything to represent. That's fine.
FLOTUS is a different story.

Do you even realize how ridiculous that sounds?

But, I got to admit I love your smug, self righteous, superior attitude..Tells us everything we need to know about you.

Nope. I stand what I say. If you think that FLOTUS posed nude is acceptable to you and your retarded buddy that is your call.
But it's not acceptable to me and most of the real republicans that I know.
Since when this is acceptable ............ just because she is beautiful?

]

1. No --- I would suggest that the "real Republicans" you claim to know aren't Republicans at all.

2. All I can say is if this is the best objection you can raise to the Trump election, you'rein pretty bad shape.

3. Just filth, isn't it? Absolute pornography, right?

4. Your self righteousness is disgusting. For some reason, you insist that FLOTUS must sit on some arbitrary pedestal you have created in your own twisted mind.

5. Your chauvinistic attitude is embarrassing - and to the ladies who read this, most of us don't think like this provincial, puritanical putz.

1. Yes. Are you saying that republicans really wanted or agreed to have a FLOTUS that posed nude? Yes......... . I know lots of republicans that don't agree with you and so with other members that are in this thread. You are very wrong.
2. I have several objections against your messiah this is just one of them. You are wrong again.
3. Just filth? You may want to address that to your FLOTUS and your fantasy. Your only and only point is that she is beautiful but so far you have not given me anything that is acceptable to the rest of Americans. So let me repeat this question again.
Since when a FLOTUS posing nude is acceptable?
4. Disgusting? Twisted mind? REALLY? I didn't put her on the pedestal. FLOTUS has been the highest honor in this country that represents women of the US with High Class, Honor and Dignity here and around the globe. Not someone that posed nude. What the fuck kind of class is that?
5. Why do you call it embarrassing? I didn't posed nude.


Can you honestly tell me that you are proud of your FLOTUS? Because you fantasize your answer is YES. My answer to you and so with other members here and people outside this site the answer is......NO.
Can you honestly tell your family that she is good role model? I know I can't.
When she travel overseas representing women of USA........... What do you think will be her reputations? Embarrassing don't you think?
What I'm telling are the facts not bullshit. Now tell me where I'm wrong.
 
If you are talking about ordinary women who don't have anything to represent. That's fine.
FLOTUS is a different story.
If you are talking about ordinary women who don't have anything to represent. That's fine.
FLOTUS is a different story.

Do you even realize how ridiculous that sounds?

But, I got to admit I love your smug, self righteous, superior attitude..Tells us everything we need to know about you.

Nope. I stand what I say. If you think that FLOTUS posed nude is acceptable to you and your retarded buddy that is your call.
But it's not acceptable to me and most of the real republicans that I know.
Since when this is acceptable ............ just because she is beautiful?

IMG]

No --- I would suggest that the "real Republicans" you claim to know aren't Republicans at all.

All I can say is if this is the best objection you can raise to the Trump election, you'rein pretty bad shape.

I suppose you strongly object to the following, huh?

There’s almost no ambiguity regarding the erotic nature of this painting. The print — a perfect example of Japanese shunga art — depicts a fisherman’s wife deriving pleasure from a rather unique encounter with an octopus. But do you recognize the artist’s name? Yes, the man behind “The Great Wave off Kanagawa“ had more than landscape likenesses up his sleeve.

Cezanne is well known for his various images of nude bathers, many of whom were women. “Seven bathers,” however, portrays the figures of nude men — though some are rather androgynously rendered. This scene of beautifully crafted male bodies is surely not the most erotic of subject matter, but the ways in which the artist toyed with classical representations of the body and the relationship between the viewer’s gaze and nakedness makes for a borderline erotic aesthetic. It is assumed that Cezanne, due to a lack of available models, painted this from memory or

Just filth, isn't it? Absolute pornography, right?

Your self righteousness is disgusting. For some reason, you insist that FLOTUS must sit on some arbitrary pedestal you have created in your own twisted mind.

Would it surprise you to know that Jackie Kennedy wasn't a virgin when she got married? Or, that Laura Bush wasn't either? Maybe you don't know that Michelle Obama - OMG - had some 'boyfriends' in college before she met ol' Barak.

Your chauvinistic attitude is embarrassing - and to the ladies who read this, most of us don't think like this provincial, puritanical putz.

You did not answer my question?

What is this has anything do with future FLOTUS?
If you are talking about ordinary women who don't have anything to represent. That's fine.
FLOTUS is a different story.
If you are talking about ordinary women who don't have anything to represent. That's fine.
FLOTUS is a different story.

Do you even realize how ridiculous that sounds?

But, I got to admit I love your smug, self righteous, superior attitude..Tells us everything we need to know about you.

Nope. I stand what I say. If you think that FLOTUS posed nude is acceptable to you and your retarded buddy that is your call.
But it's not acceptable to me and most of the real republicans that I know.
Since when this is acceptable ............ just because she is beautiful?

IMG]

No --- I would suggest that the "real Republicans" you claim to know aren't Republicans at all.

All I can say is if this is the best objection you can raise to the Trump election, you'rein pretty bad shape.

I suppose you strongly object to the following, huh?

There’s almost no ambiguity regarding the erotic nature of this painting. The print — a perfect example of Japanese shunga art — depicts a fisherman’s wife deriving pleasure from a rather unique encounter with an octopus. But do you recognize the artist’s name? Yes, the man behind “The Great Wave off Kanagawa“ had more than landscape likenesses up his sleeve.

Cezanne is well known for his various images of nude bathers, many of whom were women. “Seven bathers,” however, portrays the figures of nude men — though some are rather androgynously rendered. This scene of beautifully crafted male bodies is surely not the most erotic of subject matter, but the ways in which the artist toyed with classical representations of the body and the relationship between the viewer’s gaze and nakedness makes for a borderline erotic aesthetic. It is assumed that Cezanne, due to a lack of available models, painted this from memory or

Just filth, isn't it? Absolute pornography, right?

Your self righteousness is disgusting. For some reason, you insist that FLOTUS must sit on some arbitrary pedestal you have created in your own twisted mind.

Would it surprise you to know that Jackie Kennedy wasn't a virgin when she got married? Or, that Laura Bush wasn't either? Maybe you don't know that Michelle Obama - OMG - had some 'boyfriends' in college before she met ol' Barak.

Your chauvinistic attitude is embarrassing - and to the ladies who read this, most of us don't think like this provincial, puritanical putz.

You did not answer my question?

What is this has anything do with future FLOTUS?

I have read all the protestations about the whore/slut moving into the White House, and you call her that because she appeared nude in some artful pictures.

Now, you see art - is that porn, too?

Methinks it has nothing to do with the FLOTUS2B's personal actions - it has to do with the butthurt you got because you've been rejected by the American voter.

Rejected? You are very wrong again. We are talking about decency and dignity of the First Lady. Come on you can do better than that.
What is the art has anything to do with the FLOTUS?
Yes I can call her slut and a whore..... if you don't like it.... Too bad.
 
So, what you are saying is ....

any woman who poses for a nude picture is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a man before marriage is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a married man is a whore/slut.

Have I got that right????

So .... know ANY woman that you wouldn't call a whore/slut?

I don't ..

If you are talking about ordinary women who don't have anything to represent. That's fine.
FLOTUS is a different story.
So, what you are saying is ....

any woman who poses for a nude picture is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a man before marriage is a whore/slut.

any woman who sleeps with a married man is a whore/slut.

Have I got that right????

So .... know ANY woman that you wouldn't call a whore/slut?

I don't ..

If you are talking about ordinary women who don't have anything to represent. That's fine.
FLOTUS is a different story.

Do you even realize how ridiculous that sounds?

But, I got to admit I love your smug, self righteous, superior attitude..Tells us everything we need to know about you.

Nope. I stand what I say. If you think that FLOTUS posed nude is acceptable to you and your retarded buddy that is your call.
But it's not acceptable to me and most of the real republicans that I know.
Since when this is acceptable ............ just because she is beautiful?

]

1. No --- I would suggest that the "real Republicans" you claim to know aren't Republicans at all.

2. All I can say is if this is the best objection you can raise to the Trump election, you'rein pretty bad shape.

3. Just filth, isn't it? Absolute pornography, right?

4. Your self righteousness is disgusting. For some reason, you insist that FLOTUS must sit on some arbitrary pedestal you have created in your own twisted mind.

5. Your chauvinistic attitude is embarrassing - and to the ladies who read this, most of us don't think like this provincial, puritanical putz.

1. Yes. Are you saying that republicans really wanted or agreed to have a FLOTUS that posed nude? Yes......... . I know lots of republicans that don't agree with you and so with other members that are in this thread. You are very wrong.
2. I have several objections against your messiah this is just one of them. You are wrong again.
3. Just filth? You may want to address that to your FLOTUS and your fantasy. Your only and only point is that she is beautiful but so far you have not given me anything that is acceptable to the rest of Americans. So let me repeat this question again.
Since when a FLOTUS posing nude is acceptable?
4. Disgusting? Twisted mind? REALLY? I didn't put her on the pedestal. FLOTUS has been the highest honor in this country that represents women of the US with High Class, Honor and Dignity here and around the globe. Not someone that posed nude. What the fuck kind of class is that?
5. Why do you call it embarrassing? I didn't posed nude.


Can you honestly tell me that you are proud of your FLOTUS? Because you fantasize your answer is YES. My answer to you and so with other members here and people outside this site the answer is......NO.
Can you honestly tell your family that she is good role model? I know I can't.
When she travel overseas representing women of USA........... What do you think will be her reputations? Embarrassing don't you think?
What I'm telling are the facts not bullshit. Now tell me where I'm wrong.

You know, you need to grow up. Not every man looks at every woman with lust in his heart. It is possible to appreciate a pretty woman, or a sexy form, without all the bullshit you seem to attach to it.

Now, as for your pedantic little diatribe ....

1) "Are you saying that republicans really wanted or agreed to have a FLOTUS that posed nude? " Nope - not saying that at all. I AM saying, however, that adult Republicans don't give a damn one way or the other whether she has posed nude. What she did in the past is, in a word, irrelevant. We do not worry about a person's past - we recognize that we've all made mistakes - we only worry about the potential for the future. I absolutely guarantee you that all Republicans were aware that she posed nude - liberals certainly made every effort to bring it to the front pages. It seems only to be important to self inflated, supposedly morally superior liberals. It is your type that made sure that Hester Prynne wore the scarlet A.

2) Another example of your childish diatribe - no one has claimed that Trump is a 'messiah' - unlike the self claimed Messiah of Obama. Republicans recognize the foibles of the human condition, and we forgive those who fall prey to it. Conservatives are, most of all, realists. We do not expect Trump to cure the world's ills. We have heard his words - and we'll be damn happy if he is able to accomplish 30% of what he is going to try to do.

3) More of the same --- a sophomoric attack on a person who has done no harm. One more time - and the LAST time - THE FACT THAT THE FLOTUS 2B HAS POSED NUDE IS IRRELEVANT - we just flat ass don't care. If you wish to get your panties in a twist, go ahead. There are much more important things in life -- oh, things like counting the fleas on your dog's back, or making sure every blade of grass in your front yard points in the same direction.

4) Just a tad misogynistic, aren't you? Since when is FLOTUS the "highest honor in the land" for a woman? Just stay in that White House and be a good little wifey, huh? Publisher of a major magazing --- pffft. President of a university --- who cares? Chairman of the Federal Reserve? Peanuts. Secretary of State? House Minority Leader? Attorney General? Supreme Court Justice --- nothing. It all pales in comparison to that good little wifey in the WH,, doesn't it?

5) Your misogynistic attitude IS embarrassing - that you would demean a woman for her decisions 25 years ago - that you insist on placing her on a pedestal, demanding from her a level of behavior no woman can possibly meet.

6) When she travels overseas and meets other women? Embarrassing? Surely, you jest - she'll compare photographers with the First Lady of France. She will speak to the people in their language - after all, she speaks 5 languages. She can talk business - after all, she owns her own beauty and skincare corporation. She can talk about childcare - after all, she is committed to raising your son, Barron. She can represent the US with grace and beauty. That's how she will do.

7) Oh - and one more point - who the fuck are you to judge?
 
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I thought many black girls took Michelle Obama as a role model. I am not that sure about Bush's wife, but I heard she was a model house wife. In any case, if Melania is a role model, looking good is never bad.

So you are only after the good looks? Is that good enough?

American women are already chewed up. The only worse nations are those Muslim ones in the Middle East that break their women with burkas. I am puzzled, why Americans hate women, including especially their own women? Is this the source of American perversions?

Americans don't hate women... This has nothing to do with burkas.

Then I understand. Americans don't recognize that Melania is a woman because they don't see a pot belly on her. But then, shouldn't they put her in the LGBT category, which they all obey nationally?

This has nothing to do with h burkas LGBT.

A nation of whore callers. Make yourself a social butterfly by calling girls whores. It works in America. Can't imagine how.

Why the strong reaction in the general populous anyways? Are the above posts right and Americans are really sanctimonious bullies hiding behind a bible?

This is what feminism should have added to its task list. After earning financial and gynecological rights, it should have achieved the anti shaming rights for the female form too.
 
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I must say, that no matter how anti feminists I may have been, this is the time when the feminists should rise up again, and secure rights against shaming the girl form, and against the stigma of whoring.
 

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