Is religion really so bad?

[G.T.]

Nothin' on the news but the blues ~

 

[Avatar4321]

Only when they serve jello

 

[Coyote]

Umm guys

You realize we aren’t in the FZ right.....? A couple of you boys seemed. To have waylayed the topic....

 

[RWNJ]

Umm guys

You realize we aren’t in the FZ right.....? A couple of you boys seemed. To have waylayed the topic....

Well, when you think about it, this section belongs in the flame zone.

 

[Coyote]

Umm guys

You realize we aren’t in the FZ right.....? A couple of you boys seemed. To have waylayed the topic....

Well, when you think about it, this section belongs in the flame zone.

I am too lazy to cut out the FZ naughty bits.

 

[Borillar]

To hear some people you'd think so...or you'd think SOME is...but that would be looking at it only one part of it.

I do think religion helps us to think of a higher purpose, to think outside of ourselves and our immediate needs, to think of others. And that is a good thing. I'm not big into "salvation" as a formal concept...and I am firm believer that we create our own heaven and hell through our actions on earth.

I'm listening to music, the true voice of the sacred. Cat Stevens...Yusuf Islam is one. What he says makes sense and echos all the world's great faiths:

Ten Promises To Peace

Ten Promises To Peace


What has happened to the Muslim Community since the Prophet Muhammad’s passing (peace be upon him) is anything but the message of unity, love and peace he delivered. Not entirely their fault because those who prosper by dividing mankind into collective groups, those who draw lines between people and families and then make deals with violent would-be-lords, presidents and dictators, must shoulder much of the blame also.


After entering Islam through the study of the Qur’an, what shocked me was how little people knew or wanted to know about the commonalities shared between Islam and other Faiths. The partial reason for this is the ‘Blame Game’; everybody accusing the ‘others’ for the terrible condition of the world: Afghanistan, Palestine, Bosnia, Iraq, all burning flames of hatred. Whereas the fundamental message of the Prophet, calling for understanding, prayer and charity under God, is totally lost in the gun smoke and fury of the explosive wars that continue to fog many people’s understanding of Islam. Following my conversion, I realised the real battle front was ignorance and mutual antagonism, was left unattended.


After many years, and millions of fatalities the world is still a very dangerous place, and continuously in conflict. So what can we do? Well, I think we can all promise to try and make it better by following the things we all say believe in.


Lessons from the Ten Commandments


Some people perceive believers in a Divine Code of life as unfashionable and unrealistic. But these people have left the safety of God’s palace of peace, and chosen to pitch their tents outside. That’s their choice, and choice is part of the license God has given every human being. However, when laws are broken and if people commit crimes and cross the lines, you can’t blame God for what happens next. Law and Order are primary requisites that God has provided humanity to maintain peace within the palace.


One of the most important objectives of all religion is teaching people how to live together. The lessons I learnt as a school child, the Ten Commandments, are not even referred to or looked at anymore. Yet these were the rules laid down by our Creator, for the benefit and betterment of all mankind. Why are they so easily overlooked?


When we hear that over four fifths of the world’s population believe or have a faith, why are we not profiting from things we already hold as valuable and right. In Islam, the ‘Ten’ are repeated in the Qur’an and other sacred Books in so many verses and chapters. This is a plus! What is missing is commitment.


People have put their nationality and customs above the commitment to abide by a Divine template of universal rights and responsibilities.


Even the Universal Declaration of Human Rights says: All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood. It goes on to describe in detail what those rights are.


So what happens? Why do some of us look down at others, and consider their lives less than equal with our own? When a person kills another from the same race and society, it’s called murder. When someone kills someone from another country it’s war. It’s a complicated subject and cannot be dealt with in this short talk, but we can realize the basis of the problem if we revisit God’s commands.​

Rest of the article at link.

And..for Christianity? What could be better expressed then in Connie Dover's Ubi Caritas.....my heart and soul



WHERE charity and love are, God is there.
Christ's love has gathered us into one.
Let us rejoice and be pleased in Him.
Let us fear, and let us love the living God.
And may we love each other with a sincere heart.

WHERE charity and love are, God is there.
As we are gathered into one body,
Beware, lest we be divided in mind.
Let evil impulses stop, let controversy cease,
And may Christ our God be in our midst.

WHERE charity and love are, God is there.
And may we with the saints also,
See Thy face in glory, O Christ our God:
The joy that is immense and good,
Unto the ages through infinite ages. Amen.

It's all basically guilt, but with different holidays.

 

[ding]

Gawd, you are so full of shit ding. Like, no shit lol
Damn

Sometimes I am and sometimes I'm not, TN.

Do you think you are special or something?

 

[ding]

Gawd, you are so full of shit ding. Like, no shit lol
Damn

hes lil wimp under a nuns dress

Bless your heart, GT.

 

[Coyote]

Gawd, you are so full of shit ding. Like, no shit lol
Damn

hes lil wimp under a nuns dress

Bless your heart, GT.

Ding. Stop. You are a person of faith...I respect that...but you need to take this up with GTin the FZ.

 

[ding]

Religion teaches accountability and responsibility.

 

[G.T.]

So do parents, role models, experiences and reasoning.

 

[G.T.]

Umm guys

You realize we aren’t in the FZ right.....? A couple of you boys seemed. To have waylayed the topic....

Apologies, kind Lady.

 

[ding]

Religion has done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility.

 

[G.T.]

That just sounds like special pleading, and also grossly ignorant of the fact that morals preceded these books.

Evidence: jesus was next to two criminals. I.e. society was already punishing crime.

This is not a linear concept ~ it takes intellectual honesty and a dumbed down ego.

 

[TNHarley]

That just sounds like special pleading, and also grossly ignorant of the fact that morals preceded these books.

Evidence: jesus was next to two criminals. I.e. society was already punishing crime.

This is not a linear concept ~ it takes intellectual honesty and a dumbed down ego.

True but dingbat said religion. Which goes back thousands of years before yeshua
Of course that hack probably didnt mean that though LOL

 

[G.T.]

That just sounds like special pleading, and also grossly ignorant of the fact that morals preceded these books.

Evidence: jesus was next to two criminals. I.e. society was already punishing crime.

This is not a linear concept ~ it takes intellectual honesty and a dumbed down ego.

True but dingbat said religion. Which goes back thousands of years before yeshua
Of course that hack probably didnt mean that though LOL

It's a collectivist mind-set ~ ironically the same statist worship as Marxism only the state is religion... the lemming behavior is the same.

 

[ding]

Religion teaches that we have a choice in how we behave.

 

[Likkmee]

Religion ? Bad ?
Witch Won ?

 

[G.T.]

Life teaches that we have a choice in how we behave. Here comes the autistic nun speak. gaggg

 

[TNHarley]

Religion teaches that we have a choice in how we behave.

Your religion teaches to be subordinate or suffer for eternity. Not much of a choice ey?