is ted cruz eligible to run ??

[Syriusly]

Now that's a surprise ... attack those who highlight your habitual lying.

I said Joe Wilson knows nothing and you keep arguing that means I was talking about him, by saying he didn't know anything. You're an eight year old

You said you never mentioned Wilson

That's a lie, another lie from the liar, you, I never said that. I said I said nothing about him, he's irrelevant. I never analyzed his argument, he's a nobody. I did not say I didn't mention him, I said I'm saying nothing about him or what he said because he's irrelevant.

Once again- your actual words:

No I am pointing out just another flat out lie of yours

Kaz:
OK, liar, I already pointed out to you, I DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT JOE WISON.

and before that:

Kaz:
and you call the British PM and British intelligence liars when you like Wilson have zero knowledge

As shown in red- you did say something about Wilson- and then lied about not saying anything.

Just part of a pattern.

I did not say I did not "mention" him, your quote. I said nothing about him or his claims because I pointed out he is irrelevant to this. Does word parsing actually give you the woody that it seems to give you?

It doesn't get much more specific than I DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT JOE WISON

But clearly you did say something about Joe Wilson- why did you deny it?

Kaz:
OK, liar, I already pointed out to you, I DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT JOE WISON.

and before that:

Kaz:
and you call the British PM and British intelligence liars when you like Wilson have zero knowledge

As shown in red- you did say something about Wilson- and then lied about not saying anything.

Just part of a pattern. As you continue with each denial.

 

[Syriusly]

There is absolutely no evidence that Barack Obama has ever said he was born in Kenya

Of course there is, his own bio for his own publisher says specifically he was born in Kenya.

And nowhere in that bio does it say that Barack Obama provided that information- and the editor of the pamphlet specifically said he did not.

Once again- there is absolutely no evidence that Barack Obama ever said he was born in Kenya.

Just your speculation- conjecture- metamorphized by you into a lie- because of your anti-Obama agenda.

Where would his publisher get it except from him?

Why would you rely upon conjecture and speculation- instead of the known facts?

 

[kaz]

So I ask again, who has claimed that Obama told them he was born in Kenya?

Meriam didn't say, did she?

Meriam did specifically say that Obama never told her he was born in Kenya.

Which of course prompts you to lie and say that Obama told her he was born in Kenya.

Exactly, Meriam gave an intentionally vague, half answer. Who did say he was born in Kenya? Why did one person say it (not Obama) and her not fact check it when that was her job? She didn't say. No, that puts nothing to rest

 

[Syriusly]

You didn't say that. You again made a false claim. You made the claim that the President himself said it. The President never said he was born in Kenya, a publisher misinterpreted a synopsis.

That is pure conjecture on your part

Says the poor soul whose entire argument is conjecture, innuendo and baseless speculation.

If conjecture invalidates an argument, that you've been spewing drivel for days now.

Obviously his birth place started with him, that is not conjecture. Conjecture is that someone changed it before it got to his bio

Says you, citing yourself. And you don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about. Worse, you've been caught making up quotes and lying your ass off in support of your speculation in this very thread. And can't back up any part of your claims with anything more than innuendo and baseless conjecture.

While Miriam Goderich has immediate and direct knowledge of the situation, having prepared the pamphlet herself. She's an eye witness. And the world's best authority on this pamphlet. She explicitly contradicts you.

You have nothing but baseless conjecture of a proven liar. I have eye witness testimony from the world's leading authority. Our sources are not equal.

Where would his birth location have come from except from him?

Why do you insist on speculating that Obama was the source?

 

[Syriusly]

So I ask again, who has claimed that Obama told them he was born in Kenya?

Meriam didn't say, did she?

Meriam did specifically say that Obama never told her he was born in Kenya.

Which of course prompts you to lie and say that Obama told her he was born in Kenya.

Exactly, Meriam gave an intentionally vague, half answer. Who did say he was born in Kenya? Why did one person say it (not Obama) and her not fact check it when that was her job? She didn't say. No, that puts nothing to rest

Why do you insist on speculating and claiming that Obama was the source?

There is no evidence to support that claim- just pure speculation on your part.

 

[kaz]

So I ask again, who has claimed that Obama told them he was born in Kenya?

Meriam didn't say, did she?

Meriam did specifically say that Obama never told her he was born in Kenya.

Which of course prompts you to lie and say that Obama told her he was born in Kenya.

Yup. Kaz ignores Miriam Goderich and promptly makes up his own narrative based on exactly jack shit.

Nothing but conjecture, innuendo and baseless speculation.

I didn't ignore her, I just don't accept her half answer as resolving the issue

 

[Syriusly]

I never bring up his claim he was born in Kenya, I only respond to your drivel with it. You LOVE to be offended, I'm just helping you be offended, you're welcome

I never bring up his claim he was born in Kenya,
Once again you are just lying.

No, you are lying, you cut the second half of the quote, it’s in green above

LOL....
I never bring up his claim he was born in Kenya,

Yet- that is what you did in your very first post in this thread. No one else did- just you.

Note you cut the second half of the sentence, the relevant half to this

I never bring up his claim he was born in Kenya,

 

[kaz]

that wasn't the lie I was even talking about. Damn, you suck at this.

What can I say? I grew up, you didn't. Eventually playground gets old to adults. Hang in there, you'll get there

Your lie was portraying Wilson as someone who falsely accused Bush of lying because Wilson didn't know about British intelligence, when the truth is, Wilson wasn't referring to British intelligence. He was referring to a document he knew about that had been forged, purporting a potential sale of Uranium from Niger to Iraq.

I said W told the truth, he said the British reported it to him, they did, and they stuck by it. And they said Wilson didn't know what their intelligence was and they weren't going to tell him. I said Wilson knows nothing.

So when you said, "when the truth is, Wilson wasn't referring to British intelligence" that is completely irrelevant to the point I made and has nothing to do with anything I said. What difference would it make what Wilson based his opinion on?

W based his statement on the British and he said that in his statement, Wilson is irrelevant to that

Wilson is irrelevant to the whole thing. No one ever explained so that it made sense why anyone listened to him. Who was he representing and why? Why does his opinion on what the British said matter at all in any way to anyone? Why would anyone send an American who is an opponent of the party in power to verify a British government statement who had zero knowledge of what the British government based that statement on?

I'm going to ask my cousin Sidney to go to Africa and investigate Benghazi, then we can endlessly quote him in the media based on what he learns, sound good? That's who Joe Wilson was, NOBODY. He had no relevant intelligence and he was representing no one of significance. He was completely irrelevant to the whole thing.

That being the question you keep ducking and dodging and evading, who was he? Why does his opinion matter at all?

In regards to Bush's 16 words, you portrayed Wilson as not having knowledge of British intelligence as though that was why Wilson was wrong to think Bush lied. But you're lying. Wilson knew Bush was lying because of a fake document that also formed the basis of those 16 words.

It doesn't matter if Wilson was irrelevant to your point. It's relevant to the thread now because it reaffirms your willingness to lie.

You are lying again, I never said Wilson lied, I said he was irrelevant and his opinion was irrelevant. Why do you keep lying?

 

[Faun]

I never bring up his claim he was born in Kenya, I only respond to your drivel with it

So I actually made the effort to go through this thread to see who injected that pamphlet into it. I made it to post #32 when it was first mentioned.

Can you guess you authored post #32?

Here's a clue for ya ... post #32 was submitted by a pathological liar who just got caught telling yet another lie in post #346.

Are you lying or are you just that stupid? I"m going with stupid. Here is post #32, moron, exactly what I said, I was responding to your drivel with it

Rafael is eligible to be President.

The birthers have brain stems that make them barely eligible to breathe.

Agreed, none more so than Obama, the original birther

You really are pathological to think you can fool anyone into believing you weren't talking about the pamphlet when you referred to Obama as "the original birther."

My God you are stupid, you can't read a post. Of course I was referring to the pamphlet, moron, that wasn't what I said. I said I only bring it up in response to you people starting up on birthers. Why do you think I made that part green? What an idiot

You're lying again.

Nope. No one said anything about Obama claiming to have been born in Kenya until you derailed a thread about Ted Cruz in post #32.

G'head ... this is where you heap on more lies to cover your previous lies. You're fucking pathological.

 

[Syriusly]

So I ask again, who has claimed that Obama told them he was born in Kenya?

Meriam didn't say, did she?

Meriam did specifically say that Obama never told her he was born in Kenya.

Which of course prompts you to lie and say that Obama told her he was born in Kenya.

Yup. Kaz ignores Miriam Goderich and promptly makes up his own narrative based on exactly jack shit.

Nothing but conjecture, innuendo and baseless speculation.

I didn't ignore her, I just don't accept her half answer as resolving the issue

What issue?

The pamphlet is a clear anomaly- starting in 1990, every article about Obama that mentions his place of birth says his place of birth was Hawaii.

His own biography says he was born in Hawaii.

The editor said she made an error- and error which explains the anomaly of this isolated and obscure reference to Barack Obama Jr. being born in Kenya.

 

[kaz]

Note you cut the second half of the sentence, the relevant half to this

I never bring up his claim he was born in Kenya,

The full sentence

"I never bring up his claim he was born in Kenya, I only respond to your drivel with it."

You really aren't bright. I responded to g5000 and his birther crap, just as I said

 

[Seawytch]

You didn't say that. You again made a false claim. You made the claim that the President himself said it. The President never said he was born in Kenya, a publisher misinterpreted a synopsis.

That is pure conjecture on your part

That's it...gloss over your false claim making...

"This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me--an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote in an emailed statement to Yahoo News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."​

 

[kaz]

I never bring up his claim he was born in Kenya, I only respond to your drivel with it

So I actually made the effort to go through this thread to see who injected that pamphlet into it. I made it to post #32 when it was first mentioned.

Can you guess you authored post #32?

Here's a clue for ya ... post #32 was submitted by a pathological liar who just got caught telling yet another lie in post #346.

Are you lying or are you just that stupid? I"m going with stupid. Here is post #32, moron, exactly what I said, I was responding to your drivel with it

Rafael is eligible to be President.

The birthers have brain stems that make them barely eligible to breathe.

Agreed, none more so than Obama, the original birther

You really are pathological to think you can fool anyone into believing you weren't talking about the pamphlet when you referred to Obama as "the original birther."

My God you are stupid, you can't read a post. Of course I was referring to the pamphlet, moron, that wasn't what I said. I said I only bring it up in response to you people starting up on birthers. Why do you think I made that part green? What an idiot

You're lying again.

Nope. No one said anything about Obama claiming to have been born in Kenya until you derailed a thread about Ted Cruz in post #32.

G'head ... this is where you heap on more lies to cover your previous lies. You're fucking pathological.

I said I respond to you people talking about birthers, not you people bringing up Obama, the original birther. Is there an bottom to the depth of your mind numbing stupidity?

 

[Faun]

So I ask again, who has claimed that Obama told them he was born in Kenya?

Meriam didn't say, did she?

Which means you don't know.

 

[kaz]

You didn't say that. You again made a false claim. You made the claim that the President himself said it. The President never said he was born in Kenya, a publisher misinterpreted a synopsis.

That is pure conjecture on your part

That's it...gloss over your false claim making...

"This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me--an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote in an emailed statement to Yahoo News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."​

Nowhere in that quote does she say the source of the claim he was born in Kenya. Reading is fundamental, and you people are fundamentally stupid

 

[kaz]

So I ask again, who has claimed that Obama told them he was born in Kenya?

Meriam didn't say, did she?

Which means you don't know.

Correct, because your so called witness gave a half answer. You didn't want to question her, you know too that Obama lied and people died

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

kaz here is the law from the U.S. State Department website that proves if Obama was born in Kenya that his mother would have been unable to transmit citizenship to Barack on Aug 4, 1961. Stanley Ann Dunham was born on November 29, 1942. When Barack was born on Aug 4, 1961, she was 18 years old. She was 3 months and 25 days from her 19th birthday from being able to transmit her U.S. citizenship to Barack.


Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship by a Child Born Abroad

Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock

A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) of the INA provided the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth

. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen, is required.

For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.)

 

[Faun]

Now that's a surprise ... attack those who highlight your habitual lying.

I said Joe Wilson knows nothing and you keep arguing that means I was talking about him, by saying he didn't know anything. You're an eight year old

You said you never mentioned Wilson

That's a lie, another lie from the liar, you, I never said that. I said I said nothing about him, he's irrelevant. I never analyzed his argument, he's a nobody. I did not say I didn't mention him, I said I'm saying nothing about him or what he said because he's irrelevant.

Once again- your actual words:

No I am pointing out just another flat out lie of yours

Kaz:
OK, liar, I already pointed out to you, I DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT JOE WISON.

and before that:

Kaz:
and you call the British PM and British intelligence liars when you like Wilson have zero knowledge

As shown in red- you did say something about Wilson- and then lied about not saying anything.

Just part of a pattern.

I did not say I did not "mention" him, your quote. I said nothing about him or his claims because I pointed out he is irrelevant to this. Does word parsing actually give you the woody that it seems to give you?

You falsely claimed you said nothing about him, when in fact, you used Wilson as an example of someone who accused Bush of lying despite not knowing about British intelligence. Which is itself a lie because Wilson never spoke of British intelligence. He spoke of a fake document he had intimate knowledge of.

 

[Faun]

So I ask again, who has claimed that Obama told them he was born in Kenya?

Meriam didn't say, did she?

Which means you don't know.

Correct, because your so called witness gave a half answer. You didn't want to question her, you know too that Obama lied and people died

Because it's irrelevant who told her, if anyone even did.

 

[kaz]

You falsely claimed you said nothing about him, when in fact, you used Wilson as an example of someone who accused Bush of lying despite not knowing about British intelligence. Which is itself a lie because Wilson never spoke of British intelligence. He spoke of a fake document he had intimate knowledge of.

Bull, I didn't say Wilson lied, I said he didn't know what British intelligence was so his opinion was irrelevant.

You people are deeply in love with word parsing ... and each other. Get a room, the four of you