is ted cruz eligible to run ??

[Syriusly]

USA is dead!

THe USA the whole world knew

IS NO MORE.

RIP. so sad...sad

The only thing that is sad is your perception of the world.

USA going strong- I am proud to be an American. Don't know whether you are proud or not to be whatever pissant place you are from.

 

[Syriusly]

Don't tell me you actually wasted an hour and 20 minutes of your life watching that?? You know you'll never get that time back, right?

Well I'm not as eager as you to throw my life down the toilet, so I won't be watching it. But I'll be happy to read a few sentences if you can briefly summarize it.

... what's improper about Obama's birth certificate?

Watch it. You asked if there was anything improper about the birth certificate. Your question will be answered in that Maricopa County Sheriff's Office video.

What kind of Sheriff's office only has press conferences and posts video's on Youtube rather than actually you know- do something?

Competent Sheriff's offices that is! It was a live streaming event. I watched it. People recorded it and uploaded it to youtube. Law enforcement agencies have press conferences all the time and afterwards are uploaded on youtube. You're trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill my little Obama disciple water carrier.

Umm, competent sheriffs make arrests which lead to successful prosecutions. Loser sheriffs boast on YouTube how they could do that if they really, really wanted to.

The Maricopa County Sheriff's Office hasn't concuded their 2nd investigation yet. And how can Sheriff Arpaio be considered a loser after he's been voted in for his 6th term?

Apparently the voters of Maricopa County enjoy paying millions of tax payer dollars settling successful lawsuits due to the actions of Arpaio's office.

Meanwhile- the only 'successful' thing the Maricopa County Sheriff's office has succeeded in doing in regards to Obama is hold a press conference.

What is it- 3 years of 'investigation'- who knows how many thousands of dollars of tax payers money- who knows how many more thousands of Birther dollars paid under the table to the former used car salesman.......and no results.

 

[Syriusly]

So.....who has claimed that Obama told them he was born in Kenya?

It was in his publisher's bio of him

You really need to get over your sick obsession with "birthers." They are wrong, Obama was born in Hawaii and even if he was born in Kenya it's irrelevant, he was born an American. He is a shitty President, but he was legitimately elected.

The reality is that there are actually percentage wise very few birthers and most of them are the lunatic fringe racists nobody gives a shit what they think like Steve McGarrett anyway. Liberals just love to be offended, you are very good at it.

And finally, Obama isn't running again, Sparky. So, get over your sick obsession with the nobodies who think that or we can just keep arguing about the original birther, Obama. Your call

No one is forcing you to post your speculation and lies about Obama.

Stop posting those- and I won't have the enjoyment of pointing out that your claims are nothing more than speculation and lies.

 

[Syriusly]

When you guys end your circle jerk let me know

Now that's a surprise ... attack those who highlight your habitual lying.

I said Joe Wilson knows nothing and you keep arguing that means I was talking about him, by saying he didn't know anything. You're an eight year old

You said you never mentioned Wilson- and then we pointed out that of course you were the one who brought Wilson up- just part of a pattern you have of lying about your posts.

 

[Syriusly]

Cruz does not meet the requirements to be president......news organizations that continually talk about him as a candidate need to STFU...they are doing a disservice to their constituents. He has admitted he wasnt born in the US. thats all it takes.

Interesting, so since Obama admitted he wasn't born in the US, he can't be either?

Obama didn't 'admit' he wasn't born in the US. In fact, he's cited his place of birth as Hawaii numerous times.

And more importantly, the State of Hawaii says the same thing.

So why would a rational person ignore either?

Yes, he did, he also said he was born in Kenya. I'm not advocating ignoring anything, you are

There is absolutely no evidence that Barack Obama has ever said he was born in Kenya.

You know that and continue to make that claim, not as speculation, but as fact- i.e. you just keep lying.

Which is part of an established pattern.

 

[Syriusly]

So.....who has claimed that Obama told them he was born in Kenya?

It was in his publisher's bio of him

You really need to get over your sick obsession with "birthers." They are wrong, Obama was born in Hawaii and even if he was born in Kenya it's irrelevant, he was born an American. He is a shitty President, but he was legitimately elected.

The reality is that there are actually percentage wise very few birthers and most of them are the lunatic fringe racists nobody gives a shit what they think like Steve McGarrett anyway. Liberals just love to be offended, you are very good at it.

And finally, Obama isn't running again, Sparky. So, get over your sick obsession with the nobodies who think that or we can just keep arguing about the original birther, Obama. Your call

How bizarre? Here you are telling others to get over birfers while yourself, pushing a birfer meme about Obama saying he was born in Kenya. That's quite a contortion.

I never bring up his claim he was born in Kenya, I only respond to your drivel with it. You LOVE to be offended, I'm just helping you be offended, you're welcome

I never bring up his claim he was born in Kenya,
Once again you are just lying.

Post #32
Kaz:
Agreed, none more so than Obama, the original birther

We just finished another thread with you making the same specious claims, and you intentionally wanted to stir the pot again.

No one had mentioned 'his claim he was born in Kenya' prior to post #33.
It was just you trying to stir up crap- and now you try to deny it.

You are just lying again.

 

[Syriusly]

You didn't say that. You again made a false claim. You made the claim that the President himself said it. The President never said he was born in Kenya, a publisher misinterpreted a synopsis.

That is pure conjecture on your part

How terribly ironic.

Since you keep presenting your own conjecture as fact.

 

[Skylar]

As the founders demonstrated when they extended natural born status to the children born abroad to US citizens in the Naturalization Act of 1790, natural born status can be extended legislatively.

Under our current law, there's only two kinds of citizenship: natural born (citizen at birth), and naturalized (citizen after birth). There is no third kind.

Cruz was a citizen at birth. Thus, he's natural born.

The Constitution is clear............and overrides legislative law...as you have so often pompously stated elsewhere.

The constittuion is clear on the meaning of natural born citizen? Really? Then show me where it is defined.

Transcript of the Constitution of the United States - Official Text

Just highlight the part where the definition is offered, or any mention of it 'overriding legislative law' is made. Because I'm pretty sure nothing like that exists and you imagined it all.

The founders demonstrated that you can in fact legislate natural born status when they extended recognition of natural born status to children born outside the US to US citizens. They did so in the 1790 Naturalization Act.

And if they can legislatively extend natural born status, so can we.

If you believe the constitution prohibits this, then show us the prohibition. You'll find there's no definition of natural born, no restrictions on the term, no caveats to its meaning, nothing. Just demolishing your assertion that the constitution is 'clear' on the topic of natural born status or its meaning.

The constitution is silent on the topic.

You have a lot of trouble with common sense definitions dont you.......

Anyway why do you care....my impression is that your a democratic party loyalist anyway.

Couldn't find any definition of 'natural born citizen' in the constitution, could you? So the 'constitution is clear'.......but the constitution doesn't offer any clarity whatsoever to the meaning of natural born.

Perhaps 'clear' doesn't mean what you think it means.

definition?...lol..... what possibly could it mean..... natural born as opposed to unnaturally born?.... yes they wanted it specified that a supernatural being couldnt be president. Just in case superman did show up.

Superman, huh? When the best argument you can make for how 'clear' the constitution is left its parents on Krypton, you may want to reevaluate your perspective.

As Superman is quite imaginary.

 

[Skylar]

Cruz does not meet the requirements to be president......news organizations that continually talk about him as a candidate need to STFU...they are doing a disservice to their constituents. He has admitted he wasnt born in the US. thats all it takes.

can you elaborate on that please ?? it's it in the neighborhood of "verbal contract" or taking the 5th ??

I merely mean that unlike the situation with Obama...Cruz admits he wasn't born here.

With Obama's 'situation' being that its both he and the State of Hawaii that affirm that Obama was born here.

im not arguing that

The State of Hawaii is. And among any party commenting on the matter, their voice is the most relevant, informed, and authoritative.

 

[Skylar]

You didn't say that. You again made a false claim. You made the claim that the President himself said it. The President never said he was born in Kenya, a publisher misinterpreted a synopsis.

That is pure conjecture on your part

Says the poor soul whose entire argument is conjecture, innuendo and baseless speculation.

If conjecture invalidates an argument, that you've been spewing drivel for days now.

 

[Syriusly]

The Constitution is clear............and overrides legislative law...as you have so often pompously stated elsewhere.

The constittuion is clear on the meaning of natural born citizen? Really? Then show me where it is defined.

Transcript of the Constitution of the United States - Official Text

Just highlight the part where the definition is offered, or any mention of it 'overriding legislative law' is made. Because I'm pretty sure nothing like that exists and you imagined it all.

The founders demonstrated that you can in fact legislate natural born status when they extended recognition of natural born status to children born outside the US to US citizens. They did so in the 1790 Naturalization Act.

And if they can legislatively extend natural born status, so can we.

If you believe the constitution prohibits this, then show us the prohibition. You'll find there's no definition of natural born, no restrictions on the term, no caveats to its meaning, nothing. Just demolishing your assertion that the constitution is 'clear' on the topic of natural born status or its meaning.

The constitution is silent on the topic.

You have a lot of trouble with common sense definitions dont you.......

Anyway why do you care....my impression is that your a democratic party loyalist anyway.

Couldn't find any definition of 'natural born citizen' in the constitution, could you? So the 'constitution is clear'.......but the constitution doesn't offer any clarity whatsoever to the meaning of natural born.

Perhaps 'clear' doesn't mean what you think it means.

definition?...lol..... what possibly could it mean..... natural born as opposed to unnaturally born?.... yes they wanted it specified that a supernatural being couldnt be president. Just in case superman did show up.

Superman, huh? When the best argument you can make for how 'clear' the constitution is left its parents on Krypton, you may want to reevaluate your perspective.

As Superman is quite imaginary.

Obama did admit he was born on Krypton.....

 

[kaz]

So.....who has claimed that Obama told them he was born in Kenya?

It was in his publisher's bio of him

You really need to get over your sick obsession with "birthers." They are wrong, Obama was born in Hawaii and even if he was born in Kenya it's irrelevant, he was born an American. He is a shitty President, but he was legitimately elected.

The reality is that there are actually percentage wise very few birthers and most of them are the lunatic fringe racists nobody gives a shit what they think like Steve McGarrett anyway. Liberals just love to be offended, you are very good at it.

And finally, Obama isn't running again, Sparky. So, get over your sick obsession with the nobodies who think that or we can just keep arguing about the original birther, Obama. Your call

No one is forcing you to post your speculation and lies about Obama.

Stop posting those- and I won't have the enjoyment of pointing out that your claims are nothing more than speculation and lies.

No one is forcing you to post your obsession about birthers.

Stop posting those- and I won't have the enjoyment of pointing out that Obama was in fact the original birther. Patient zero. Originator of the cult

 

[kaz]

When you guys end your circle jerk let me know

Now that's a surprise ... attack those who highlight your habitual lying.

I said Joe Wilson knows nothing and you keep arguing that means I was talking about him, by saying he didn't know anything. You're an eight year old

You said you never mentioned Wilson

That's a lie, another lie from the liar, you, I never said that. I said I said nothing about him, he's irrelevant. I never analyzed his argument, he's a nobody. I did not say I didn't mention him, I said I'm saying nothing about him or what he said because he's irrelevant. He knew nothing, no one significant sent him, he had no significant role in the whole thing so why would any critical mind care what he said about it?

- and then we pointed out that of course you were the one who brought Wilson up- just part of a pattern you have of lying about your posts.

You need to get with Faun, the two of you are singing different songs

 

[kaz]

There is absolutely no evidence that Barack Obama has ever said he was born in Kenya

Of course there is, his own bio for his own publisher says specifically he was born in Kenya.

How does your employer know where you were born?

 

[kaz]

I never bring up his claim he was born in Kenya, I only respond to your drivel with it. You LOVE to be offended, I'm just helping you be offended, you're welcome

I never bring up his claim he was born in Kenya,
Once again you are just lying.

No, you are lying, you cut the second half of the quote, it’s in green above


I already gave you the quote that I was responding to g5000, birther obsessed liberal like you, Faun and Sylar.

you intentionally wanted to stir the pot again

Nice, you got one right for a change. Yes, when you simpletons start with the birther, birther, birther, I like to get you riled up. Nice, that’s like the first thing you got right so far, isn’t it?

 

[kaz]

You didn't say that. You again made a false claim. You made the claim that the President himself said it. The President never said he was born in Kenya, a publisher misinterpreted a synopsis.

That is pure conjecture on your part

How terribly ironic.

Since you keep presenting your own conjecture as fact.

No, conjecture is the scenario seawytch just made up.


I admitted the evidence is circumstantial, but circumstantial is not “conjecture.” Clearly he said where he was born and his bio says Kenya. That someone changed that answer along the way is pure conjecture on your part, you have no evidence it happened and no presented no reason anyone would do that

 

[kaz]

You didn't say that. You again made a false claim. You made the claim that the President himself said it. The President never said he was born in Kenya, a publisher misinterpreted a synopsis.

That is pure conjecture on your part

Says the poor soul whose entire argument is conjecture, innuendo and baseless speculation.

If conjecture invalidates an argument, that you've been spewing drivel for days now.

Obviously his birth place started with him, that is not conjecture. Conjecture is that someone changed it before it got to his bio

 

[Skylar]

So.....who has claimed that Obama told them he was born in Kenya?

It was in his publisher's bio of him

And Miriam Goderich, the woman who created the pamphlet said that Obama didn't tell her he was born in Kenya, but it was a fact checking error on her part:

"This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me--an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote in an emailed statement to Yahoo News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."

Miriam Goderich
Born in Kenya Obama s Literary Agent Misidentified His Birthplace in 1991 - ABC News

So I ask again, who has claimed that Obama told them he was born in Kenya?

 

[kaz]

So I ask again, who has claimed that Obama told them he was born in Kenya?

Meriam didn't say, did she?

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

So.....who has claimed that Obama told them he was born in Kenya?

It was in his publisher's bio of him

You really need to get over your sick obsession with "birthers." They are wrong, Obama was born in Hawaii and even if he was born in Kenya it's irrelevant, he was born an American. He is a shitty President, but he was legitimately elected.

The reality is that there are actually percentage wise very few birthers and most of them are the lunatic fringe racists nobody gives a shit what they think like Steve McGarrett anyway. Liberals just love to be offended, you are very good at it.

And finally, Obama isn't running again, Sparky. So, get over your sick obsession with the nobodies who think that or we can just keep arguing about the original birther, Obama. Your call

You're wrong Kaz. The law in 1961 states that if Obama was born in Kenya, his mother was too young to confer U.S. citizenship to baby Barack. She had to be 5 years pass her 14th birtbday to do so. She was 18 when she gave birth but had to be 19 to meet the citizenship law requirements back then. She was 4 month shy of her19th birthday of meeting that requirement.