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I bet Muhammy couldn't even read or write.
No! but he had the Torah read out to him.
Gee, dajjal, it seems that when you take a verse out of context it tends to cause confusion, and misinformation.
You cannot be honest for once, can ya?
The whole chapter is titled the "Spoils of War"
It has 75 verses, too many to post here. People can search it and decide themselves, rather than go to your foolish preaching.
Too right, there is a whole sura in the quran entitled Spoils of war. That is exactly my point.
The quran is not a holy book, or a message from God, it is the handbook of an Arab bandit who stole religion from the Bible to scare people into fighting for him.
He then pays them off by claiming that God said it is right to take booty in war.
Quran sura 8.69 But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good: but fear God: for
God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
And the verse 8:12 is directly referring to the battle where Muslims had angels help them. So in a war, if you want to live, you kill the enemies. That's common sense
The quran divides people into believers and unbelievers in Muhammad.
It says believers will be rewarded in heaven if they die in battle and it says that unbelievers will burn in eternal hell. It says that the curse of God is on unbelievers.
It sets believers against unbelievers in war and hatred.
How obvious does it have to be for muslims to see they have been deceived by a false prophet, and a war monger?
Would a just God create a world full of people and then take sides and set them at war?
The quran says that unbelievers in Muhammad and the day of judgement will burn in eternal hellfire, and then gives lurid descriptions of hell. Does this mean that God is going to do the following things to all Buddhists and Hindus?
22.19 These two antagonists dispute with each other about their Lord: But those who deny (their Lord),- for them will be cut out a garment of Fire: over their heads will be poured out boiling water.
22.20 With it will be scalded what is within their bodies, as well as (their) skins.
22.21 In addition there will be maces of iron (to punish) them.
22.22 Every time they wish to get away therefrom, from anguish, they will be forced back therein, and (it will be said), "Taste ye the Penalty of Burning!"
4.56 Those who reject our Signs, We shall soon cast into the Fire: as often as their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for fresh skins, that they may taste the penalty: for God is Exalted in Power, Wise.
I bet Muhammy couldn't even read or write.
I bet Muhammy couldn't even read or write.
Correct. Mohammed was illiterate.
The Koran was compiled after his death by his followers. In order for something that Mohammed said to be included, it had to be witnessed by no less than 2 followers.
FkingAmazing,
I have read the quran, and I have several English translations of it for comparison. I found the quran poorly written mumbling, repedetive, and without narrative. I have written several pieces about that which I posted in the first few pages of this thread.
For example, I wrote a piece on sura 12 which makes plain that the story is a half remembered rendition of the bible story which leaves out many essential details that make the story comprehensible. It is obvious Muhammad had the bible read to him then repeated what he could remember.
There is also the issue of the cruelty of Allah, who the quran makes out to be an incompetent sadisic monster. The truth about Muhammads actions can be seen in my sig, which is a reputable hadith that shows how barbaric he really was, ordering torture and murders.
As for Muhammad, there is only one message in the quran, and that is obey Muhammad.
It says many times, "obey Allah and the messenger".
I watched the first video you posted, and the speaker seems to have missed that.
FckingAmazing, you said
" i suggest you just search pure Quran and Prophet Muhammad also Bible and the other religions .."
I have been searching for the truth all my life and I am now a pensioner. As I just said on another thread I abandoned the God of wrath in the bible when I was 16, as I could not believe any kind of God could be that cruel. I went to bible classes until they started talking about hellfire, then I walked out, on the grounds that no God I could respect would do such things to anyone.
I then started going to spiritualist churches, and theosophy (occult) meetings. I also got involved in several guru cults, which I started a thread about. ( I just bounced it for you to read)
In the end I do think there is a God and he is infinitely great, and totally just. The universe is just one plane that we incarnate in for experience sake. We evolve through many lives, on many different planets, until reaching enlightenment. After which our immortal spirit goes on evolving in higher worlds.
It took me a lifetime to come to these conclusions and so I brought all that experience to my reading of the quran. I soon smelled a rat in the first few pages, and concluded it was not inspired by God. I thought it was going to be spiritual, like the teachings of Jesus, or the Buddha, who's teachings I greatly respect. But it turned out to be a poorly remembered rehash of bible stories, with some Arab myths.
Everything I read after that only confirmed my initial impression that the quran is terrible lies about God ,designed to scare people into obeying Muhammad.
You could do worse than believe what I am saying, because I could save you a lifetime of searching.
