candycorn
Diamond Member
Is this process specifically outlined or are these people just making it up as they go?
Serious question.
Little is spelled out in the Constitution.
I don’t think it says.
it’s time to add voice to the document
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Is this process specifically outlined or are these people just making it up as they go?
Serious question.
The were, dipstickThey could have been subpoenaed in The House Inquiry I’d The Democrats really wanted to hear them testify.
The Senate in this process is a jury deliberation. No need to try the case all over again.
Not sure, but it seems oddly conspicuous not to allow the 4 folks who could each seemingly exonerate the President in full... to testify.
I understand he wants the Trial so that the partisan vote can happen and he can SAY that he was exonerated...but it's quite telling that he doesn't want to actually BE exonerated.
Since The Democrats ended The House Inquiry all those Subpoenas that they refused to wait for arbitration in the courts to be decided are now invalid.
The Senate would acquit Trump if he shot someone on Fifth AvenueYou guys gotta quit listening to the GOP politicians on the impeachment process. They keep muddying the waters and combining everything together.
No. While there were some freshmen Representatives who called for impeachment shortly after he was sworn in, Pelosi knew that they didn't have anything (yet) that was impeachable. That is why she never brought it up before now.
The impeachment process was started when the whistleblower reported on the Ukraine phone call. Pelosi looked at the allegations and decided that now there was something that he could be impeached for.
The House then held their investigation. No, there was no trial because the House isn't responsible for that. After they had held their investigations, then Pelosi called for an impeachment vote and they voted to impeach him.
McConnell isn't helping matters by saying that he is fully coordinating with the WH, and will not be an impartial juror. Pelosi is now saying that until she can get assurances from the Senate that they will hold a fair trial, she will hold on to the articles of impeachment. If a juror in any court in the country told the judge that they were coordinating with the defendant and wouldn't be impartial, they would be thrown off the jury.
As far as the trial? When they figure out the rules and McConnell agrees to give a fair trial, then Pelosi will give them the articles, and the trial can begin.
No. Trump hasn't been denied due process because they haven't set the date for the trial yet. And, the only branch of government that can do the trial is the Senate. If you want to blame someone for holding up the process, blame McConnell, and his statement about not being willing to do his job.
It's not Pelosi's responsibility to dictate how the Senate conducts the trial, and the longer she holds back the articles, the more transparent her motives become, since they made such a big deal out of how immediately they had to do it.
Pelosi knows that
Why not wait for the courts to rule on Trump releasing documents and allow staff testimony?
If Trump refuses, even the Senate must convict on obstruction of Congress
Because Trump ordered them not to.Why didn’t they appear?
The were, dipstickThey could have been subpoenaed in The House Inquiry I’d The Democrats really wanted to hear them testify.
The Senate in this process is a jury deliberation. No need to try the case all over again.
Not sure, but it seems oddly conspicuous not to allow the 4 folks who could each seemingly exonerate the President in full... to testify.
I understand he wants the Trial so that the partisan vote can happen and he can SAY that he was exonerated...but it's quite telling that he doesn't want to actually BE exonerated.
Because Trump ordered them not to.Why didn’t they appear?
The were, dipstickThey could have been subpoenaed in The House Inquiry I’d The Democrats really wanted to hear them testify.
The Senate in this process is a jury deliberation. No need to try the case all over again.
Not sure, but it seems oddly conspicuous not to allow the 4 folks who could each seemingly exonerate the President in full... to testify.
I understand he wants the Trial so that the partisan vote can happen and he can SAY that he was exonerated...but it's quite telling that he doesn't want to actually BE exonerated.
Fortunately, some actually showed and I watched every hour of every hearing...and the dufus did what he was accused of but at the end of the day...thats not why I would have impeached him.
Because they wanted the finality before the election since the election is what was being fucked with via the alleged abuse.Why didn’t The Democrats try to have The Subpoenas Enforced in The Courts as that is The Constitutional Arbitrator for Disputes Between The House and Executive Branch?
Because Trump ordered them not to.Why didn’t they appear?
The were, dipstickThey could have been subpoenaed in The House Inquiry I’d The Democrats really wanted to hear them testify.
The Senate in this process is a jury deliberation. No need to try the case all over again.
Not sure, but it seems oddly conspicuous not to allow the 4 folks who could each seemingly exonerate the President in full... to testify.
I understand he wants the Trial so that the partisan vote can happen and he can SAY that he was exonerated...but it's quite telling that he doesn't want to actually BE exonerated.
Fortunately, some actually showed and I watched every hour of every hearing...and the dufus did what he was accused of but at the end of the day...thats not why I would have impeached him.
Because they wanted the finality before the election since the election is what was being fucked with via the alleged abuse.Why didn’t The Democrats try to have The Subpoenas Enforced in The Courts as that is The Constitutional Arbitrator for Disputes Between The House and Executive Branch?
Because Trump ordered them not to.Why didn’t they appear?
The were, dipstickThey could have been subpoenaed in The House Inquiry I’d The Democrats really wanted to hear them testify.
The Senate in this process is a jury deliberation. No need to try the case all over again.
Fortunately, some actually showed and I watched every hour of every hearing...and the dufus did what he was accused of but at the end of the day...thats not why I would have impeached him.
Thats broken English...but anyhoo, it shouldnt even TAKE a subpoena. Trump not wanting the guys who COULD DIRECTLY EXONERATE HIM to testify is suspect as fuck in tandem with the testimony we already have.If The Evidence is Overwhelming and Indisputable and Irrefutable as all Democrats stared, and they refused to wait for arbitration since they had “so much indisputable evidence & overwhelming evidence the Gabe then no choice but to impeach” then when they gaveled The Inquiry, they forfeited their right to call any further witnesses.
They declared the process complete and they abandoned their subpoenas and they cannot subpoena those witnesses again.
Because they wanted the finality before the election since the election is what was being fucked with via the alleged abuse.Why didn’t The Democrats try to have The Subpoenas Enforced in The Courts as that is The Constitutional Arbitrator for Disputes Between The House and Executive Branch?
Because Trump ordered them not to.
Fortunately, some actually showed and I watched every hour of every hearing...and the dufus did what he was accused of but at the end of the day...thats not why I would have impeached him.
Thats broken English...but anyhoo, it shouldnt even TAKE a subpoena. Trump not wanting the guys who COULD DIRECTLY EXONERATE HIM to testify is suspect as fuck in tandem with the testimony we already have.If The Evidence is Overwhelming and Indisputable and Irrefutable as all Democrats stared, and they refused to wait for arbitration since they had “so much indisputable evidence & overwhelming evidence the Gabe then no choice but to impeach” then when they gaveled The Inquiry, they forfeited their right to call any further witnesses.
They declared the process complete and they abandoned their subpoenas and they cannot subpoena those witnesses again.
Because they wanted the finality before the election since the election is what was being fucked with via the alleged abuse.Why didn’t The Democrats try to have The Subpoenas Enforced in The Courts as that is The Constitutional Arbitrator for Disputes Between The House and Executive Branch?
Because Trump ordered them not to.Why didn’t they appear?
Fortunately, some actually showed and I watched every hour of every hearing...and the dufus did what he was accused of but at the end of the day...thats not why I would have impeached him.
Hes guilty. Suck it up, buttercup...he wont be removed from office as your consolation prize.
I dont want anything. Im merely stating WHAT IS. And the facts on the field say that the witnesses that DID testify say trumps guilty, and the witnesses that could corroborate said testimony are being blocked by his guilty ass.The House cannot subpoena witnesses that they abounded in their inquiry to appear in The Senate.
What part of that do you not understand?
If you wanted to hear from them, you should have waited for The Court’s arbitrstion on The Subpoenas.
Thats broken English...but anyhoo, it shouldnt even TAKE a subpoena. Trump not wanting the guys who COULD DIRECTLY EXONERATE HIM to testify is suspect as fuck in tandem with the testimony we already have.If The Evidence is Overwhelming and Indisputable and Irrefutable as all Democrats stared, and they refused to wait for arbitration since they had “so much indisputable evidence & overwhelming evidence the Gabe then no choice but to impeach” then when they gaveled The Inquiry, they forfeited their right to call any further witnesses.
They declared the process complete and they abandoned their subpoenas and they cannot subpoena those witnesses again.
Because they wanted the finality before the election since the election is what was being fucked with via the alleged abuse.Why didn’t The Democrats try to have The Subpoenas Enforced in The Courts as that is The Constitutional Arbitrator for Disputes Between The House and Executive Branch?
Because Trump ordered them not to.
Fortunately, some actually showed and I watched every hour of every hearing...and the dufus did what he was accused of but at the end of the day...thats not why I would have impeached him.
Hes guilty. Suck it up, buttercup...he wont be removed from office as your consolation prize.
Rofl. You have got to either be working as a comedian or just completely on too many drugs. Hear say second hand information and even I thought does not make anything perfect.Why?Besides bright boy if they really wanted it to work its way through the court system as you are pretending they could have shut down the impeachment at any time. Since the went as far as drawing up articles and are not forwarding them to the senate it only looks as if they already know there is nothing there.Sometimes trials take a while....often yearsFunny that not only do you advocate for denying someone a speedy trial. A big part of the bill of rights which shows that things like the constitution only matter to crazy Dems when it fits their side.Seems the Dems are having second thoughts. They are hoping to get the most impact they can out of the mess they have made.
Dems should hold the Articles of Impeachment until Trumps legal challenges of releasing evidence have cleared the courts
Should take about a year unless Trump drops his challenges
You show that this was not about the so called pressure because of him using his office for all the reasons that Dems claimed. If Trump was such that he had to be impeached in such a speedy manner then delaying it shows they really were not serious.
Of course your opinion matters to no body.
In this case we have an Article of Impeachment on Obstructing Congress
Part of it is Trump going to court to prevent the release of documents and allowing his staff to testify.
Doesn’t it make sense to allow these cases to be resolved? THEN if Trump refuses to comply, the Senate will have no choice but to convict
They had enough evidence to impeach and they did. It was a perfect impeachment
But now they must deal with a Republican Senate who would allow Trump to shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and get away with it
More evidence makes sense
I dont want anything. Im merely stating WHAT IS. And the facts on the field say that the witnesses that DID testify say trumps guilty, and the witnesses that could corroborate said testimony are being blocked by his guilty ass.The House cannot subpoena witnesses that they abounded in their inquiry to appear in The Senate.
What part of that do you not understand?
If you wanted to hear from them, you should have waited for The Court’s arbitrstion on The Subpoenas.
Thats broken English...but anyhoo, it shouldnt even TAKE a subpoena. Trump not wanting the guys who COULD DIRECTLY EXONERATE HIM to testify is suspect as fuck in tandem with the testimony we already have.If The Evidence is Overwhelming and Indisputable and Irrefutable as all Democrats stared, and they refused to wait for arbitration since they had “so much indisputable evidence & overwhelming evidence the Gabe then no choice but to impeach” then when they gaveled The Inquiry, they forfeited their right to call any further witnesses.
They declared the process complete and they abandoned their subpoenas and they cannot subpoena those witnesses again.
Because they wanted the finality before the election since the election is what was being fucked with via the alleged abuse.Why didn’t The Democrats try to have The Subpoenas Enforced in The Courts as that is The Constitutional Arbitrator for Disputes Between The House and Executive Branch?
Hes guilty. Suck it up, buttercup...he wont be removed from office as your consolation prize.
You should grow the fuck up and stop treating politicians as your heros that you need to stick up for. Trump would literally take a shit on your grave in front of your loved ones for an extra dollar, naive bastard
cool rant but unfortunately the 17 witnesses disagree and most of them were appointed by orange dufusI’m stating The Law.
Here is what I think. Nancy Pelosi is a Senile old bat, whose half way to The Looney Bin.
She and the rest of her clown posse doesn’t actually know The Law, and did not realize that by refusing to await a Court Arbitration on The Subpoenas that when they finally Gaveled and Concluded The Inquiry, that those Subpoenas Expired.
This is why The Moron won’t send The Articles, because she is trying to get McDonnell to allow them to Subpoena all the same people again, but The Senate is nothing but a Jury Deliberation, The so called “Grand Jury” is over, and the Senate does not have to call a single witness because they just review the facts or lack of them that The House Presented & vote on whether they are legitimate or not, and they are not.
If you didn’t make your case, it’s as if all the time and money you wasted was simply flushed down The Toilet like a Gigantic Turd!
And that’s what you did, and everyone knows it and it’s why The President is getting record donations, his approval rating is climbing and America is turning against you.
I dont want anything. Im merely stating WHAT IS. And the facts on the field say that the witnesses that DID testify say trumps guilty, and the witnesses that could corroborate said testimony are being blocked by his guilty ass.The House cannot subpoena witnesses that they abounded in their inquiry to appear in The Senate.
What part of that do you not understand?
If you wanted to hear from them, you should have waited for The Court’s arbitrstion on The Subpoenas.
Thats broken English...but anyhoo, it shouldnt even TAKE a subpoena. Trump not wanting the guys who COULD DIRECTLY EXONERATE HIM to testify is suspect as fuck in tandem with the testimony we already have.If The Evidence is Overwhelming and Indisputable and Irrefutable as all Democrats stared, and they refused to wait for arbitration since they had “so much indisputable evidence & overwhelming evidence the Gabe then no choice but to impeach” then when they gaveled The Inquiry, they forfeited their right to call any further witnesses.
They declared the process complete and they abandoned their subpoenas and they cannot subpoena those witnesses again.
Because they wanted the finality before the election since the election is what was being fucked with via the alleged abuse.
Hes guilty. Suck it up, buttercup...he wont be removed from office as your consolation prize.
You should grow the fuck up and stop treating politicians as your heros that you need to stick up for. Trump would literally take a shit on your grave in front of your loved ones for an extra dollar, naive bastard
cool rant but unfortunately the 17 witnesses disagree and most of them were appointed by orange dufusI’m stating The Law.
Here is what I think. Nancy Pelosi is a Senile old bat, whose half way to The Looney Bin.
She and the rest of her clown posse doesn’t actually know The Law, and did not realize that by refusing to await a Court Arbitration on The Subpoenas that when they finally Gaveled and Concluded The Inquiry, that those Subpoenas Expired.
This is why The Moron won’t send The Articles, because she is trying to get McDonnell to allow them to Subpoena all the same people again, but The Senate is nothing but a Jury Deliberation, The so called “Grand Jury” is over, and the Senate does not have to call a single witness because they just review the facts or lack of them that The House Presented & vote on whether they are legitimate or not, and they are not.
If you didn’t make your case, it’s as if all the time and money you wasted was simply flushed down The Toilet like a Gigantic Turd!
And that’s what you did, and everyone knows it and it’s why The President is getting record donations, his approval rating is climbing and America is turning against you.
I dont want anything. Im merely stating WHAT IS. And the facts on the field say that the witnesses that DID testify say trumps guilty, and the witnesses that could corroborate said testimony are being blocked by his guilty ass.The House cannot subpoena witnesses that they abounded in their inquiry to appear in The Senate.
What part of that do you not understand?
If you wanted to hear from them, you should have waited for The Court’s arbitrstion on The Subpoenas.
Thats broken English...but anyhoo, it shouldnt even TAKE a subpoena. Trump not wanting the guys who COULD DIRECTLY EXONERATE HIM to testify is suspect as fuck in tandem with the testimony we already have.If The Evidence is Overwhelming and Indisputable and Irrefutable as all Democrats stared, and they refused to wait for arbitration since they had “so much indisputable evidence & overwhelming evidence the Gabe then no choice but to impeach” then when they gaveled The Inquiry, they forfeited their right to call any further witnesses.
They declared the process complete and they abandoned their subpoenas and they cannot subpoena those witnesses again.
Hes guilty. Suck it up, buttercup...he wont be removed from office as your consolation prize.
You should grow the fuck up and stop treating politicians as your heros that you need to stick up for. Trump would literally take a shit on your grave in front of your loved ones for an extra dollar, naive bastard
you are gullible, congratulations
That made no sense ^I think you are The Gullible one because you fail to understand that Only Testimony from Material Fact Witnesses that can present concrete & direct Evidence of a High Crime or Misdemeanor are allowed in The Senate Deliberations.
Do you have any of those amongst your so called “Imaginary” 17 Witnesses?
cool rant but unfortunately the 17 witnesses disagree and most of them were appointed by orange dufusI’m stating The Law.
Here is what I think. Nancy Pelosi is a Senile old bat, whose half way to The Looney Bin.
She and the rest of her clown posse doesn’t actually know The Law, and did not realize that by refusing to await a Court Arbitration on The Subpoenas that when they finally Gaveled and Concluded The Inquiry, that those Subpoenas Expired.
This is why The Moron won’t send The Articles, because she is trying to get McDonnell to allow them to Subpoena all the same people again, but The Senate is nothing but a Jury Deliberation, The so called “Grand Jury” is over, and the Senate does not have to call a single witness because they just review the facts or lack of them that The House Presented & vote on whether they are legitimate or not, and they are not.
If you didn’t make your case, it’s as if all the time and money you wasted was simply flushed down The Toilet like a Gigantic Turd!
And that’s what you did, and everyone knows it and it’s why The President is getting record donations, his approval rating is climbing and America is turning against you.
I dont want anything. Im merely stating WHAT IS. And the facts on the field say that the witnesses that DID testify say trumps guilty, and the witnesses that could corroborate said testimony are being blocked by his guilty ass.The House cannot subpoena witnesses that they abounded in their inquiry to appear in The Senate.
What part of that do you not understand?
If you wanted to hear from them, you should have waited for The Court’s arbitrstion on The Subpoenas.
Thats broken English...but anyhoo, it shouldnt even TAKE a subpoena. Trump not wanting the guys who COULD DIRECTLY EXONERATE HIM to testify is suspect as fuck in tandem with the testimony we already have.
Hes guilty. Suck it up, buttercup...he wont be removed from office as your consolation prize.
You should grow the fuck up and stop treating politicians as your heros that you need to stick up for. Trump would literally take a shit on your grave in front of your loved ones for an extra dollar, naive bastard
you are gullible, congratulations
That made no sense ^I think you are The Gullible one because you fail to understand that Only Testimony from Material Fact Witnesses that can present concrete & direct Evidence of a High Crime or Misdemeanor are allowed in The Senate Deliberations.
Do you have any of those amongst your so called “Imaginary” 17 Witnesses?
cool rant but unfortunately the 17 witnesses disagree and most of them were appointed by orange dufusI’m stating The Law.
Here is what I think. Nancy Pelosi is a Senile old bat, whose half way to The Looney Bin.
She and the rest of her clown posse doesn’t actually know The Law, and did not realize that by refusing to await a Court Arbitration on The Subpoenas that when they finally Gaveled and Concluded The Inquiry, that those Subpoenas Expired.
This is why The Moron won’t send The Articles, because she is trying to get McDonnell to allow them to Subpoena all the same people again, but The Senate is nothing but a Jury Deliberation, The so called “Grand Jury” is over, and the Senate does not have to call a single witness because they just review the facts or lack of them that The House Presented & vote on whether they are legitimate or not, and they are not.
If you didn’t make your case, it’s as if all the time and money you wasted was simply flushed down The Toilet like a Gigantic Turd!
And that’s what you did, and everyone knows it and it’s why The President is getting record donations, his approval rating is climbing and America is turning against you.
I dont want anything. Im merely stating WHAT IS. And the facts on the field say that the witnesses that DID testify say trumps guilty, and the witnesses that could corroborate said testimony are being blocked by his guilty ass.The House cannot subpoena witnesses that they abounded in their inquiry to appear in The Senate.
What part of that do you not understand?
If you wanted to hear from them, you should have waited for The Court’s arbitrstion on The Subpoenas.
You should grow the fuck up and stop treating politicians as your heros that you need to stick up for. Trump would literally take a shit on your grave in front of your loved ones for an extra dollar, naive bastard
you are gullible, congratulations
I watched all of their testimony. They all knew the shady fuck was scheming ~ problem is...anyone is dumb enough at this point to believe he wasnt.
Thats the issue with hero worship.
Yall need a daddy, and its become a cult. YOU are in a cult.
Nice strawman. Feel better, bro. In 5 years or in 1, this will all pass and youll be left with your dick in your hands pretending youd never supported the guy, like everyone did for Bush.So you don’t know how US Law works.
Don’t know how Subpoenas work
Don’t know how Separation of Powers works
Don’t know what Executive Privilege is
Don’t know the evidentiary process
Don’t know The Senates role in validating House Resolutions like HR 1 as The Senior member of a Bicameral Legislation
What do you actually know?
That made no sense ^I think you are The Gullible one because you fail to understand that Only Testimony from Material Fact Witnesses that can present concrete & direct Evidence of a High Crime or Misdemeanor are allowed in The Senate Deliberations.
Do you have any of those amongst your so called “Imaginary” 17 Witnesses?
cool rant but unfortunately the 17 witnesses disagree and most of them were appointed by orange dufusI’m stating The Law.
Here is what I think. Nancy Pelosi is a Senile old bat, whose half way to The Looney Bin.
She and the rest of her clown posse doesn’t actually know The Law, and did not realize that by refusing to await a Court Arbitration on The Subpoenas that when they finally Gaveled and Concluded The Inquiry, that those Subpoenas Expired.
This is why The Moron won’t send The Articles, because she is trying to get McDonnell to allow them to Subpoena all the same people again, but The Senate is nothing but a Jury Deliberation, The so called “Grand Jury” is over, and the Senate does not have to call a single witness because they just review the facts or lack of them that The House Presented & vote on whether they are legitimate or not, and they are not.
If you didn’t make your case, it’s as if all the time and money you wasted was simply flushed down The Toilet like a Gigantic Turd!
And that’s what you did, and everyone knows it and it’s why The President is getting record donations, his approval rating is climbing and America is turning against you.
I dont want anything. Im merely stating WHAT IS. And the facts on the field say that the witnesses that DID testify say trumps guilty, and the witnesses that could corroborate said testimony are being blocked by his guilty ass.
You should grow the fuck up and stop treating politicians as your heros that you need to stick up for. Trump would literally take a shit on your grave in front of your loved ones for an extra dollar, naive bastard
you are gullible, congratulations
I watched all of their testimony. They all knew the shady fuck was scheming ~ problem is...anyone is dumb enough at this point to believe he wasnt.
Thats the issue with hero worship.
Yall need a daddy, and its become a cult. YOU are in a cult.