Is there a place of eternal punishment?

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There are over 400 bible scriptures referencing hell in the Old Testament and the New. Hell is a literal place. Located in the center of the earth.

Laughable. If there was a place in the center of the earth, science would be able to corroborate it. Here is a not-too-complicated article Jeremiah explaining what the center of the earth is made of.

What is the Center of the Earth Made Of?

Paradise used to be located within seeing distance ( in center of earth but above it )[/B]

Paradise is in ones imagination.

 

[turzovka]

Thanks, but still I am not clear on this? Here is what I think you are saying:


Teaching who God is---- His balanced justice scales make it an impossibility for an eternal place of torment to be true.

Interpretation: There is no place where any soul suffers for all eternity.


144,000 are bought from the earth-rev 14:3---the rest will inherit the earth like Jesus promised.

Interpretation: Only 144,000 will make it to heaven to be forever with God. The remaining souls who “will inherit the earth” is very confusing? I have no idea what that means?


The devil is real--- Jesus death bought back what Adam had lost for mankind.

Interpretation: The devil is real but where does he reside now?... and where will he reside after Jesus’ return?... and does he live forever in hell? Not clear.


The lake of fire= the second death-eternal destruction.

Interpretation: Those souls who do not make it to heaven ultimately are sent to the lake of fire where they will be destroyed and cease to exist?

 

[hobelim]

There are over 400 bible scriptures referencing hell in the Old Testament and the New. Hell is a literal place. Located in the center of the earth.

Laughable. If there was a place in the center of the earth, science would be able to corroborate it. Here is a not-too-complicated article Jeremiah explaining what the center of the earth is made of.

What is the Center of the Earth Made Of?

Paradise used to be located within seeing distance ( in center of earth but above it )[/B]

Paradise is in ones imagination.

copra sanctum!

Although its easy to see that Jeremiah doesn't have a rational bone in her body, can you see that the subject and location of heaven and hell in scripture does help define the gulf that separates the place where your mind is as compared to where Jeremiahs mind is - a state of irrational confusion vs your sober acceptance of reality?

Can you see eternal torment, the fire that never goes out, hell, is a figurative description of an actual state of mind, a place of conscious thought and existence devoid of any peace that comes from seeing what you believe conform to and confirmed by reality which comparatively would be paradise, not an imaginary place but an actual state above the daily torment from the confusion of irrational superstitions and perverse perceptions which can only lead to a life of pretense and fear?

Can't you see that the many people who profess to believe in what cannot be true flailing about in those fires shrieking about judgment and sin tormented day and night by demons who fuel those flames with their endless lies and superstitious delusions so that believers are always on the brink of a total psychotic break with reality from which some never return??

Doesn't that place of mind fit perfectly the biblical descriptions of hell and eternal torment?

 

[kjw47]

Thanks, but still I am not clear on this? Here is what I think you are saying:


Teaching who God is---- His balanced justice scales make it an impossibility for an eternal place of torment to be true.

Interpretation: There is no place where any soul suffers for all eternity.


144,000 are bought from the earth-rev 14:3---the rest will inherit the earth like Jesus promised.

Interpretation: Only 144,000 will make it to heaven to be forever with God. The remaining souls who “will inherit the earth” is very confusing? I have no idea what that means?


The devil is real--- Jesus death bought back what Adam had lost for mankind.

Interpretation: The devil is real but where does he reside now?... and where will he reside after Jesus’ return?... and does he live forever in hell? Not clear.


The lake of fire= the second death-eternal destruction.

Interpretation: Those souls who do not make it to heaven ultimately are sent to the lake of fire where they will be destroyed and cease to exist?

There is no place of eternal suffering--it was symbolism for eternal destruction--eternally cut off from God.
Paradise will be on earth, not in heaven.
Rev teaches a war in heaven--Michael battles satan and his angels( demons) and casts them to the vicinity of the earth. Satan and his demons get abyssed after Harmageddon--then let back out for a little while( after the resurrection) --some still follow him and all of them get cast into the lake of fire( second death) to be eternally destroyed.