Is there not ONE Democrat on this site who will admit that this mess is.....

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Partially caused by your own party? I've seen many posts or threads by the right that is sick of some of the things the GOP does. Yet EVERY thread by the left gives their own party a complete pass and lambastes the right. Most polls show Americans are sick of EVERYONE in DC. But instead of taking that to heart you play stupid games with the percentages. Just yesterday I saw a poll that had Obama at 17% approval among independents. That is TERRIBLE. Yet every thread is about what everyone else is doing wrong.
Today I saw Alan Colmes say that he thinks there should be a 6 to 12 month delay on forced enrollment in Obamacare. And he's about as far left as one can be without falling over. How is it he can be honest but none of you can? What's the harm in the delay? The system is currently COMPLETELY dysfunctional. Even Gibbs admitted this.
Then we have the current shutdown. Boehner wont allow votes on Senate bills and Reid wont allow votes on house bills. Yet for some crazy ass reason that is beyond me the Tea Party gets the blame when it is ENTIRELY up to Reid & Boehner.
They are ALL acting like spoiled children INCLUDING OBAMA.
 
Partially caused by your own party? I've seen many posts or threads by the right that is sick of some of the things the GOP does. Yet EVERY thread by the left gives their own party a complete pass and lambastes the right. Most polls show Americans are sick of EVERYONE in DC. But instead of taking that to heart you play stupid games with the percentages. Just yesterday I saw a poll that had Obama at 17% approval among independents. That is TERRIBLE. Yet every thread is about what everyone else is doing wrong.
Today I saw Alan Colmes say that he thinks there should be a 6 to 12 month delay on forced enrollment in Obamacare. And he's about as far left as one can be without falling over. How is it he can be honest but none of you can? What's the harm in the delay? The system is currently COMPLETELY dysfunctional. Even Gibbs admitted this.
Then we have the current shutdown. Boehner wont allow votes on Senate bills and Reid wont allow votes on house bills. Yet for some crazy ass reason that is beyond me the Tea Party gets the blame when it is ENTIRELY up to Reid & Boehner.
They are ALL acting like spoiled children INCLUDING OBAMA.

I've said a thousand times that the problem is Congress and after Citizens United was given a green light by SCOTUS, money flooded the pockets of these sluts on both sides of the aisle.

SHall I republish Charley Reese's final column for the Orlando Sentinel? It was written in 1995 but just as true today. Here it is:



The 545 People Responsible For All Of U.S. Woes


BY Charley Reese
March 7, 1995-- -- -

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, we have deficits? Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don't propose a federal budget. The president does. You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does. You and I don't write the tax code. Congress does. You and I don't set fiscal policy. Congress does. You and I don't control monetary policy. The Federal Reserve Bank does.

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president and nine Supreme Court justices - 545 human beings out of the 235 million - are directly, legally, morally and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered but private central bank.

I excluded all but the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman or a president to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it.

No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislation's responsibility to determine how he votes.

A CONFIDENCE CONSPIRACY

Don't you see how the con game that is played on the people by the politicians? Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of Tip O'Neill, who stood up and criticized Ronald Reagan for creating deficits.

The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it. The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating appropriations and taxes.

O'neill is the speaker of the House. He is the leader of the majority party. He and his fellow Democrats, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetos it, they can pass it over his veto.

REPLACE SCOUNDRELS

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 235 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts - of incompetence and irresponsibility.

I can't think of a single domestic problem, from an unfair tax code to defense overruns, that is not traceable directly to those 545 people.

When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair. If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red. If the Marines are in Lebanon, it's because they want them in Lebanon.

There are no insoluble government problems. Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take it.

Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exist disembodied mystical forces like "the economy," "inflation" or "politics" that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

Those 545 people and they alone are responsible. They and they alone have the power. They and they alone should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses - provided they have the gumption to manage their own employees.

This article was first published by the Orlando Sentinel Star newspaper


http://klsouth.wordpress.com/2011/08/25/the-545-people-responsible/
 
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Partially caused by your own party? I've seen many posts or threads by the right that is sick of some of the things the GOP does. Yet EVERY thread by the left gives their own party a complete pass and lambastes the right. Most polls show Americans are sick of EVERYONE in DC. But instead of taking that to heart you play stupid games with the percentages. Just yesterday I saw a poll that had Obama at 17% approval among independents. That is TERRIBLE. Yet every thread is about what everyone else is doing wrong.
Today I saw Alan Colmes say that he thinks there should be a 6 to 12 month delay on forced enrollment in Obamacare. And he's about as far left as one can be without falling over. How is it he can be honest but none of you can? What's the harm in the delay? The system is currently COMPLETELY dysfunctional. Even Gibbs admitted this.
Then we have the current shutdown. Boehner wont allow votes on Senate bills and Reid wont allow votes on house bills. Yet for some crazy ass reason that is beyond me the Tea Party gets the blame when it is ENTIRELY up to Reid & Boehner.
They are ALL acting like spoiled children INCLUDING OBAMA.

I am not a Democrat......but......

Nope. This shut down is unnecessary. The funding levels were agreed upon and represented a compromise by the Democrats. The GOP tried to use the US economy as leverage to get the Democrats to give concessions.

Now they are doing the same thing with the debt ceiling.

Obama had his fill of this shit two years ago. He is doing the right thing.

It is 100% on the GOP.

Whine away.
 
No.

It isn't caused by Democrats or Liberals.

Neither have talked about shutting down government.

This is NOT something Democrats or Liberals even consider.

It's NOT the Democrats or Liberals that CONSTANTLY talk about how bad government is.

It's the Conservatives and Republicans.
 
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Decades of mismanagement have led us to this point. There are some in DC who wish to do the right thing but they can not overcome the machine. Only we the people can but most of us sit idly by making excuses rather than exercising our power with our vote.
 
Decades of mismanagement have led us to this point. There are some in DC who wish to do the right thing but they can not overcome the machine. Only we the people can but most of us sit idly by making excuses rather than exercising our power with our vote.

Name the ones you think wish tondo the right thing, please.
 
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Decades of mismanagement have led us to this point. There are some in DC who wish to do the right thing but they can not overcome the machine. Only we the people can but most of us sit idly by making excuses rather than exercising our power with our vote.

Name the ones you think wish tondo the right thing, please.

There are several threads already open about me and my opinion. Your need to spin this thread in a new direction is duly noted.
 
Decades of mismanagement have led us to this point. There are some in DC who wish to do the right thing but they can not overcome the machine. Only we the people can but most of us sit idly by making excuses rather than exercising our power with our vote.

Name the ones you think wish tondo the right thing, please.

There are several threads already open about me and my opinion. Your need to spin this thread in a new direction is duly noted.

You just made the claim. Who are the people in DC that you believe wish to do the right thing? This is not spinning. I am responding to something that you just said.

I believe that President Obama wishes to do the right thing.

You?
 
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Name the ones you think wish tondo the right thing, please.

There are several threads already open about me and my opinion. Your need to spin this thread in a new direction is duly noted.

You just made the claim. Who are the people in DC that you believe wish to do the right thing? This is not spinning. I am responding to something that is just said.

I believe that President Obama wishes to do the right thing.

You?

Yes, what's the problem with naming those who are moderate and have plans that will work. Who are they? Inquiring minds want to know.
 
An ABC News/Washington Post poll Monday found that dissatisfaction with the party is accelerating. Seventy-four percent of Americans disapprove of the Republicans' handling of the budget crisis, compared with 63 percent two weeks ago and 70 percent last week.

The numbers in other polls have also been frighteningly bleak for Republicans. A Thursday NBC/Wall Street Journal poll gave the Republican Party the worst approval numbers in the poll's history. And it found that support for Obama's health care law has improved since Oct. 1, when people could go online to sign up for insurance coverage.

Splintered House GOP Undermines Senate Progress on Shutdown, Debt Ceiling - Yahoo
 
Name the ones you think wish tondo the right thing, please.

There are several threads already open about me and my opinion. Your need to spin this thread in a new direction is duly noted.

You just made the claim. Who are the people in DC that you believe wish to do the right thing? This is not spinning. I am responding to something that is just said.

I believe that President Obama wishes to do the right thing.

You?

You are a persistent little twerp. As stated in the other thread I started today I believe most of the tea party candidates have only the good of the nation at heart, Cruz excluded. I believe he was seeking the lime light as his demands which he described as dire to the country seemed to change every few days.

Nancy Pelosi
Mitch McConnell
Barrack Obama
John McCain
Barbara Boxer
John Boehner

All big problems for our country, among others.

As I stated prior to the last election, we need new faces in DC
 
fuckin hacks :lol:
it is the GOV'T.
the POTUS and both parties!!
BOTH parties want to win and do not give a.SHIT about US
 
There are several threads already open about me and my opinion. Your need to spin this thread in a new direction is duly noted.

You just made the claim. Who are the people in DC that you believe wish to do the right thing? This is not spinning. I am responding to something that is just said.

I believe that President Obama wishes to do the right thing.

You?

Yes, what's the problem with naming those who are moderate and have plans that will work. Who are they? Inquiring minds want to know.

Moderate is what got us here. If your solution is more moderates then we are on opposite pages.

Being a moderate is not a prerequisite to knowing how to negotiate in good faith. A moderate is simply someone who can be bought by EITHER side.
 
An ABC News/Washington Post poll Monday found that dissatisfaction with the party is accelerating. Seventy-four percent of Americans disapprove of the Republicans' handling of the budget crisis, compared with 63 percent two weeks ago and 70 percent last week.

The numbers in other polls have also been frighteningly bleak for Republicans. A Thursday NBC/Wall Street Journal poll gave the Republican Party the worst approval numbers in the poll's history. And it found that support for Obama's health care law has improved since Oct. 1, when people could go online to sign up for insurance coverage.

Splintered House GOP Undermines Senate Progress on Shutdown, Debt Ceiling - Yahoo
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depends on what site. every one is different
as far as the OC, that is probably just the leech hack repubs saying they like it since it started.
after all, they got to quit their job to pursue their pottery career :lol:
 
An ABC News/Washington Post poll Monday found that dissatisfaction with the party is accelerating. Seventy-four percent of Americans disapprove of the Republicans' handling of the budget crisis, compared with 63 percent two weeks ago and 70 percent last week.

The numbers in other polls have also been frighteningly bleak for Republicans. A Thursday NBC/Wall Street Journal poll gave the Republican Party the worst approval numbers in the poll's history. And it found that support for Obama's health care law has improved since Oct. 1, when people could go online to sign up for insurance coverage.

Splintered House GOP Undermines Senate Progress on Shutdown, Debt Ceiling - Yahoo
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depends on what site. every one is different
as far as the OC, that is probably just the leech hack repubs saying they like it since it started.
after all, they got to quit their job to pursue their pottery career :lol:

ceramic pottery is a very lucrative past time.
 
Partially caused by your own party? I've seen many posts or threads by the right that is sick of some of the things the GOP does. Yet EVERY thread by the left gives their own party a complete pass and lambastes the right. Most polls show Americans are sick of EVERYONE in DC. But instead of taking that to heart you play stupid games with the percentages. Just yesterday I saw a poll that had Obama at 17% approval among independents. That is TERRIBLE. Yet every thread is about what everyone else is doing wrong.
Today I saw Alan Colmes say that he thinks there should be a 6 to 12 month delay on forced enrollment in Obamacare. And he's about as far left as one can be without falling over. How is it he can be honest but none of you can? What's the harm in the delay? The system is currently COMPLETELY dysfunctional. Even Gibbs admitted this.
Then we have the current shutdown. Boehner wont allow votes on Senate bills and Reid wont allow votes on house bills. Yet for some crazy ass reason that is beyond me the Tea Party gets the blame when it is ENTIRELY up to Reid & Boehner.
They are ALL acting like spoiled children INCLUDING OBAMA.

I'm going to give you a pass because everyone is entitled to a bad day now and then. Obama has taken a lot of deserved criticism from the left. He should never have allowed the hostage game to begin. He should have prosecuted Wall Street criminals and broken up the big banks. And most of all he should have stayed out of the pockets of the Larry Summers crowd and never got caught up in the farcical "grand bargain" nonsense. You see, Obama is a center-right president of a center-left nation with a reactionary right minority which has been calling the shots because they don't care how much damage they do to America if they can't destroy Obama.

So if anyone wants me to criticism Obama, I just did. He could have stopped this nonsense earlier if he had not tried to negotiate with the Republican Party. But he acted in good faith, which the House Republicans have never done and are not doing to this hour. You can blame whoever you like, for whatever reasons you like, but just be sure you don't try to argue that after declaring their sole goal was to destroy the Obama presidency, that the right reactionaries have any position to now lament that Obama will not rescue them from their self-inflicted destruction. When your proclaimed goal is to destroy people without regard to the cost to the nation, you forfeit the right to later ask to reason together.

I think that right wing extremism is inevitably on the road to annihilation and disgrace, much as the Klan of the 1920's was destroyed. Americans a decade from now will look back at these times with the same disgust they will have for lynchings. Good Americans are ashamed of this behavior and are repulsed by it. The answer is that those who shouted "Let them die!" in glee in the Republican debates and their Heritage Foundation ilk who today threatened to primary any House Republican who did not toe the absolutist line are not people any sane politician of any political persuasion, or any patriotic American who cares for their country and its people, would ever do business with again.
The world will be a better place when they are gone from the political scene.
 
Partially caused by your own party? I've seen many posts or threads by the right that is sick of some of the things the GOP does. Yet EVERY thread by the left gives their own party a complete pass and lambastes the right. Most polls show Americans are sick of EVERYONE in DC. But instead of taking that to heart you play stupid games with the percentages. Just yesterday I saw a poll that had Obama at 17% approval among independents. That is TERRIBLE. Yet every thread is about what everyone else is doing wrong.
Today I saw Alan Colmes say that he thinks there should be a 6 to 12 month delay on forced enrollment in Obamacare. And he's about as far left as one can be without falling over. How is it he can be honest but none of you can? What's the harm in the delay? The system is currently COMPLETELY dysfunctional. Even Gibbs admitted this.
Then we have the current shutdown. Boehner wont allow votes on Senate bills and Reid wont allow votes on house bills. Yet for some crazy ass reason that is beyond me the Tea Party gets the blame when it is ENTIRELY up to Reid & Boehner.
They are ALL acting like spoiled children INCLUDING OBAMA.

No, this is getting serious now. This was all Teaparty bullshit and John Boehner is being led around by the nose. He shut the government down and nothing was going to be talked about after that.

He made bad decisions, one right after the other and today was the last straw.

Fitch Puts US Credit Rating on Negative Watch

The Fitch credit rating agency has warned that it is reviewing the U.S. government's AAA credit rating for a possible downgrade, citing the impasse in Washington that has raised the threat of a default on the nation's debt.

Fitch placed the U.S. credit rating on negative watch Tuesday, a step that would precede an actual downgrade. The agency said it expects to conclude its review within six months.

The announcement comes as House and Senate leaders face a Thursday deadline to raise the nation's $16.7 trillion borrowing limit. Fitch says it expects the debt limit to be raised soon. But it adds, "the political brinkmanship and reduced financing flexibility could increase the risk of a U.S. default."

Fitch Puts US Credit Rating on Negative Watch - ABC News
 

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