Zone1 Islam- Arab Imperialism

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Israel is interested in preserving itself and the boundaries the Jews had when they got started in that land about 2500 years ago.

Islam/Arabs are about recapturing the lands of Israel, which they stole from Orthodox Christianity about 1400 years ago. They do not want a "two state" solution, and are an all or nothing agenda which has their goal the elimination of the state of Israel and it's Jewish occupants.

That's just silly. Hamas doesn't want a 2 State solution but neither does Netanyahu.

Most Arabs today are very peaceful people. Look at the reality not the propaganda.

 

[surada]

Israel is interested in preserving itself and the boundaries the Jews had when they got started in that land about 2500 years ago.

Islam/Arabs are about recapturing the lands of Israel, which they stole from Orthodox Christianity about 1400 years ago. They do not want a "two state" solution, and are an all or nothing agenda which has their goal the elimination of the state of Israel and it's Jewish occupants.

That's not the Arabs' goal. That's the goal of Hamas and the Likud.

 

[surada]

That same disinformation spiel is pitched for Jihad.
The link I provided does a fair job of explaining what taqiyya is and how it is used.

Jihad is first and foremost a personal struggle to be a good person and a good Muslim. That's what it has always been. Have you ever read the rules of warfare in the Koran?

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Informed Consent About Less Valid Perspectives

* Curtailing Salvation Salesmen Duping Fools Through Ignorance *

The link is very limited.
What are you selling?

The objective is direct and includes the specific purpose of limiting the scope of directives for violence by doctrine in the torah and qurayn to establish the respective city states of israel and hejaz ,

The surah 9 was written 113th out of 114 in chronology and is easily regarded as hate speech , which is tolerable so long as its scope is confined to hejaz , while all others are entitled to self defense against adherents of fictional ishmaelism whose expectations assert that qurayshism applies outside of hejaz .

Consequent to that objective is to establish principles of non violence and individualism as a more valid and formal basis for reason within political science .

There is not a difference between a religion and the edicts and tenets of creed which comprise it , and there is not an exception in us first amendment as a religion when its creed includes edicts or tenets to violate principles of non violence and individualism .

 

[surada]

" Informed Consent About Less Valid Perspectives

* Curtailing Salvation Salesmen Duping Fools Through Ignorance *

The objective is direct and includes the specific purpose of limiting the scope of directives for violence by doctrine in the torah and qurayn to establish the respective city states of israel and hejaz ,

The surah 9 was written 113th out of 114 in chronology and is easily regarded as hate speech , which is tolerable so long as its scope is confined to hejaz , while all others are entitled to self defense against adherents of fictional ishmaelism whose expectations assert that qurayshism applies outside of hejaz .

Consequent to that objective is to establish principles of non violence and individualism as a more valid and formal basis for reason within political science .

There is not a difference between a religion and the edicts and tenets of creed which comprise it , and there is not an exception in us first amendment as a religion when its creed includes edicts or tenets to violate principles of non violence and individualism .

Gibberish. What is fictional Ishmaelism? Did you just make that up? Outside of Hejaz? Limited by geography?

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Modification Of Destiny Through Changes In Fates "

* Not Confounded The Success Criteria Of Nature For Survival With A Means To Achieve It *

Gibberish. What is fictional Ishmaelism? Did you just make that up? Outside of Hejaz? Limited by geography?

An after life , a chance for eternal life , the life to come , reincarnation , being born again , a transmutation of soles , or whichever other , are metaphors for passing one ones genetic identity and sophisticated physical state , so that another both figuratively and literally as ones self may have an opportunity to experience the sentience , sapience and introspection which is afforded as life , where failure to do so in perpetuity is described by the metaphors of final judgement or eternal damnation .

The hue mammon are under an illusion of a subject altruism , which purports that its introspection should exist in perpetuity , forever .

By empirical evidence from nature , not every instance of introspection is required to satisfy a subjective altruism , and procreation through a sophisticated physical state is the means by which hue mammon is able to perpetuate its introspection and satisfy a subjective altruism .

By empirical evidence from nature , assurances for a subjective altruism are not true , as the sophisticated physical states necessary for introspection in creatures of creation has been known to succumb to eternal damnation by final judgment of extinction .

Which ever were missed perceptions resultant in magnanimity and hyper extension for some cultural or imperial hegemony , torahnism and qurayshism are genetic religions .

Hejaz - Wikipedia

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The Hejaz (/hiːˈdʒæz, hɪˈ-/, also US: /hɛˈ-/; Arabic: ٱلْحِجَاز, romanized: al-Ḥijāz, lit. 'the Barrier',

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" End Of Debate Over Whether To Reconcile " * Immigration Versus Emigration * Torahnism is a genetic religion for preservation of the patriarchal lineage of eponymous isaac , where the tenets , cultural traditions and city state laws ( 613 mitzvot ) , as proposed in the torah , would only...

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* Principles Of Non Violence And Individualism *

By principles of non violence , the definition of violence is illegitimate aggression , where self defense against violence is legitimate aggression ; so , clearly , a definition for illegitimate aggression needs to be provided .

By principles of individualism , violence against an individual is illegitimate aggression that deprives and individual of self ownership , or self determination , where self ownership includes free roam , free association and progeny , and where self determination includes property ownership and willful intents through social civil contract - made valid through informed consent .

Negative liberties represent protections , independence and individualism .

Positive liberties represent endowments , dependence and collectivism .

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" Informed Consent About Less Valid Perspectives

* Curtailing Salvation Salesmen Duping Fools Through Ignorance *

The objective is direct and includes the specific purpose of limiting the scope of directives for violence by doctrine in the torah and qurayn to establish the respective city states of israel and hejaz ,

The surah 9 was written 113th out of 114 in chronology and is easily regarded as hate speech , which is tolerable so long as its scope is confined to hejaz , while all others are entitled to self defense against adherents of fictional ishmaelism whose expectations assert that qurayshism applies outside of hejaz .

Consequent to that objective is to establish principles of non violence and individualism as a more valid and formal basis for reason within political science .

There is not a difference between a religion and the edicts and tenets of creed which comprise it , and there is not an exception in us first amendment as a religion when its creed includes edicts or tenets to violate principles of non violence and individualism .

No. I meant the link doesn't entirely work.

Why are you interested in Islam or proving it's violent?

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Submission To By No Name Will A Law Be Made Paradox "

* Penchant Particulars About Certain Terminology *

Why are you interested in Islam or proving it's violent?

From this vantage point there is not such thing as a religion that could be termed islam .

The term islam is an infinitive meaning " to submit " that necessarily cannot include a specific predicate or consequent to which one would be inclined to submit .

The term islam is thus regarded as orwellian double speak with a pretentious and preposterous intent of proclaiming a universality for something that cannot be explicitly established .

Given the success criteria of nature for survival , the genetic religions of qurayshism and torahnism are understandable , while any universal pretenses for fictional ishmaelism remain debase .


* Populism For Abdication To Authoritarian Dictates Is Regressive *

Islamic socialism - Wikipedia

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Muslim socialist leaders believe in the derivation of legitimacy from the public, and wish to implement a government based on social welfare and the concept of zakat. In practice, this has been seen through guaranteed incomes, pensions, and welfare.

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* Valid Interests By A State For Principles Of Non Violence And Individualism *

From principles of non violence , violence is illegitimate aggression , where self defense against violence is legitimate aggression .

From principles of individualism , violence against an individual includes illegitimate aggression against self ownership , where self ownership entitles an individual to free roam , to free association and to progeny .

From principles of individualism , violence against an individual includes illegitimate aggression against self determination , where self determination entitles an individual to private property and willful intents through contracts , which are made valid through informed consent .

A credo from a motto of e pluribus unum for us republic expects independence as individualism , with equal protection of negative liberties among individuals .

An individual may be a single individual citizen , or a collective of individuals as a greater individual , whether as a state , or as a federate , or as a corporate .


* Another Anomaly Of Diction *

Applying THe Term Rights As A Descriptor For Articles Of Constitution Is Slang And A Profound Error In Diction

* Applying The Term Rights As A Descriptor For Articles Of A Constitution Is Slang And A Profound Error In Diction * * Opening Post Subjective Objective Sew Gnomon * The term right is a faux pas of diction , as to equivocate the term right with a mathematical norm leads to a contradiction ...

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" Submission To By No Name Will A Law Be Made Paradox "

* Penchant Particulars About Certain Terminology *

From this vantage point there is not such thing as a religion that could be termed islam .

The term islam is an infinitive meaning " to submit " that necessarily cannot include a specific predicate or consequent to which one would be inclined to submit .

The term islam is thus regarded as orwellian double speak and a pretentious and preposterous effort to proclaim universality .

Given the success criteria of nature for survival , the genetic religions of qurayshism and torahnism are understandable , while any universal pretenses for fictional ishmaelism remain debase .


* Populism For Abdication To Authoritarian Dictates Is Regressive *

Islamic socialism - Wikipedia

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Muslim socialist leaders believe in the derivation of legitimacy from the public, and wish to implement a government based on social welfare and the concept of zakat. In practice, this has been seen through guaranteed incomes, pensions, and welfare.

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* Valid Interests By A State For Individuals *

From principles of individualism , violence against an individual includes illegitimate aggression against self ownership , where self ownership entitles an individual to free roam , to free association and to progeny .

From principles of individualism , violence against an individual includes illegitimate aggression against self determination , where self determination entitles an individual to private property and willful intents through contracts , which are made valid through informed consent .

A credo from a motto of e pluribus unum for us republic expects independence as individualism , with equal protection of negative liberties among individuals .

An individual may be a single individual citizen , or a collective of individuals as a greater individual , whether as a state , or as a federate , or as a corporate .


* Another Anomaly Of Diction *

Applying THe Term Rights As A Descriptor For Articles Of Constitution Is Slang And A Profound Error In Diction

* Applying The Term Rights As A Descriptor For Articles Of A Constitution Is Slang And A Profound Error In Diction * * Opening Post Subjective Objective Sew Gnomon * The term right is a faux pas of diction , as to equivocate the term right with a mathematical norm leads to a contradiction ...

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Christians also strive to submit to the will of God. That's why we pray thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

You're making this much too complicated. Why?

 

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" Say Yearn Prayers But Do Not Claim Absolution By Divine Authority To Implement Social Norms "

* Legal Positivism Versus Calls For Abdication To The Lofted Ass Holes Of All Others Before Us *

Christians also strive to submit to the will of God. That's why we pray thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
You're making this much too complicated. Why?

Actually this is being simplified , so that the literal meaning for an after life , and the success criteria of nature to survive , are not misconstrued by sectarian supremacists touting nomian dictates and claiming themselves as officiates for the will of gawd , to who all are to submit and be complicit .

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ Muslims have been saying it for about two decades now. Now, they are acting on it ]

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ Hamas attack on Israel is a call to Muslims to let Europe know that they are serious about making Europe part of Islam ]

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ Is more and more of this going to happen around the world? ]



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[ Hamas attack on Israel is a call to Muslims to let Europe know that they are serious about making Europe part of Islam ]

[From a response to the video ]

This video was posted Seven years ago on YouTube. Westminster abbey has a policy of being inclusive of other faiths in invited prayer sessions. This was by invite. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tW72eGGqxsk

 

[Sixties Fan]

The attempt to destroy Israel is muslim imperialism. Islam once colonised huge swathes of the world. Colonial settler Muslims conquered through violence and built mosques on top of the houses of worship of indigenous people. In a mindset of muslim supremacy - many Muslims today believe they are the only people who belong in the Middle East. They are not. There are other people indigenous to the region who have every moral, legal and historic right to live independently. They do not need to live subjugated as second class citizens under Muslims - also known as “dhimmi.” There needs to be push back against the anti-intellectualism in some parts of the Muslim world - and push back against an attitude of muslim supremacy. They need to step into reality and decency and accept the world is not theirs alone and that other people have rights.




The middle east was - and still is to an extent - a multi-cultural mixture of ancient traditions and religions. The muslim conquest tries its hardest to Arabize the entire region and extinguish the regions diversity. Unfortunately over the centuries their campaign has been largely successful.However, to think the Arab colonialist enterprise is a thing from the past is grossly mistaken. It is still going on today. Yes, today!There are still dozens of cultures and societies in the middle east that have not been lost yet and are still resisting the pressure from the Arab-Islamist colonialist enterprise.Be it the Amazigh people of northern Africa, the Kurds and Yezidis, Zoroastrians, Mandeans, the Arameans, the Chaldeans, the Druze, the Copts of Egypt and the many other Christian denominations of the Levant, the Greek minorities all over the middle east and many more smaller communities rooted in ancient pre-islamic traditions. And of course the Jews.And the Arab colonialists are still using the same tactics to subjugate anyone resisting their control.Peace in the middle east starts with the end of the Arab -Islamist colonialist enterprise.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Volume Is Not Equivalent With Resonance "

* Limited Purposes For Wearing A Raincoat In A Shower *

[ Muslims have been saying it for about two decades now. Now, they are acting on it ]

An opportunity to engage in dialogue includes persistence , and a dialogue about the terms naturalism , torahnism , qurayshism , fictional ishmaelism , antinomianism and principles for non violence and individualism , is likely to produce more extensive reviews and direct address of premises and perspectives introduced for consideration as more valid normative values in and for public policy .

Does a basis of arab imperialism include a pretense that its cultural hegemony also include the nomian edicts for fictional ishmaelism ?

Antinomianism - Wikipedia

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[Monk-Eye]

" Plenty Of Victims To Go Around Among Dominated And Converted Patsies "

* Non Self Validating Fantasy Wonder Land *

Keep in mind that the conquered and disgraced former persians are not lineal descendants of ishmael within hejaz and also not arabs , however the guild of its ideologues is to promote a pretentious supremacy for arab cultural hegemony as twelvers waiting for some figment of muhammad to descend from the clouds .

Twelver Shi'ism - Wikipedia

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The term Twelver is based on the belief that twelve male descendants from the family of Muhammad, starting with ʿAlī ibn Abī Ṭālib and ending with Muhammad al-Mahdi, are Imams who have religious and political authority.[16]


* History Of Sunni Arabs And Shia Non Arabs Goaded By Arabs *

Umayyad Caliphate - Wikipedia

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The Umayyad Caliphate had four main social classes:

1. Muslim Arabs
2. Muslim non-Arabs (clients of the Muslim Arabs)
3. Dhimmis (non-Muslim free persons such as Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians)
4. Slaves

The Muslim Arabs were at the top of the society and saw it as their duty to rule over the conquered areas. The Arab Muslims held themselves in higher esteem than Muslim non-Arabs and generally did not mix with other Muslims.

As Islam spread, more and more of the Muslim population consisted of non-Arabs. This caused social unrest, as the new converts were not given the same rights as Muslim Arabs. Also, as conversions increased, tax revenues (peasant tax) from non-Muslims decreased to dangerous lows. These issues continued to worsen until they helped cause the Abbasid Revolt in the 740s.[177]

The Umayyad caliphate was marked both by territorial expansion and by the administrative and cultural problems that such expansion created. Despite some notable exceptions, the Umayyads tended to favor the rights of the old Arab families, and in particular their own, over those of newly converted Muslims (mawali). Therefore, they held to a less universalist conception of Islam than did many of their rivals. As G.R. Hawting has written, "Islam was in fact regarded as the property of the conquering aristocracy."[190]

Abbasid Caliphate - Wikipedia

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The Abbasid caliphs were Arabs descended from Abbas ibn Abd al-Muttalib, one of the youngest uncles of Muhammad and of the same Banu Hashim clan. The Abbasids claimed to be the true successors of Muhammad in replacing the Umayyad descendants of Banu Umayya by virtue of their closer bloodline to Muhammad.
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According to Ira Lapidus, "The Abbasid revolt was supported largely by Arabs, mainly the aggrieved settlers of Merv with the addition of the Yemeni faction and their Mawali".[15] The Abbasids also appealed to non-Arab Muslims, known as mawali, who remained outside the kinship-based society of the Arabs and were perceived as a lower class within the Umayyad empire. Muhammad ibn 'Ali, a great-grandson of Abbas, began to campaign in Persia for the return of power to the family of Muhammad, the Hashemites, during the reign of Umar II.

 

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[Monk-Eye]

" Subjugation Posture Beckoning For A Prostate Massage "

* When I Slam A Phobia Makes More Sense *

The attempt to destroy Israel is muslim imperialism. Islam once colonised huge swathes of the world. Colonial settler Muslims conquered through violence and built mosques on top of the houses of worship of indigenous people. In a mindset of muslim supremacy - many Muslims today believe they are the only people who belong in the Middle East. They are not. There are other people indigenous to the region who have every moral, legal and historic right to live independently. They do not need to live subjugated as second class citizens under Muslims - also known as “dhimmi.” There needs to be push back against the anti-intellectualism in some parts of the Muslim world - and push back against an attitude of muslim supremacy. They need to step into reality and decency and accept the world is not theirs alone and that other people have rights.



The middle east was - and still is to an extent - a multi-cultural mixture of ancient traditions and religions. The muslim conquest tries its hardest to Arabize the entire region and extinguish the regions diversity. Unfortunately over the centuries their campaign has been largely successful.However, to think the Arab colonialist enterprise is a thing from the past is grossly mistaken. It is still going on today. Yes, today!There are still dozens of cultures and societies in the middle east that have not been lost yet and are still resisting the pressure from the Arab-Islamist colonialist enterprise.Be it the Amazigh people of northern Africa, the Kurds and Yezidis, Zoroastrians, Mandeans, the Arameans, the Chaldeans, the Druze, the Copts of Egypt and the many other Christian denominations of the Levant, the Greek minorities all over the middle east and many more smaller communities rooted in ancient pre-islamic traditions. And of course the Jews.And the Arab colonialists are still using the same tactics to subjugate anyone resisting their control.Peace in the middle east starts with the end of the Arab -Islamist colonialist enterprise.

That you use the terms muslims , or islam , rather than applying the more adequate terms qurayshism or fictional ishmaelism is an overt mistake .

The third world is mostly homogeneous and numerically over represented globally , and disproportionately non japhetic , while the anti-racist racism of multi-culturalism is instigated for arab cultural hegemony with the purposes of continuing to subdue the lineages of japheth so as to deprive its peoples of any entitlement for self determination .

Breeding into poverty beyond economic and environmental carrying capacity with little else to do , other than remain on call to rant and rave about the despair , seems to be a typical trend and expectation of sectarian supremacists .

Gaza Strip - Wikipedia

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The Gaza Strip is 41 kilometres (25 miles) long, from 6 to 12 km (3.7 to 7.5 mi) wide, and has a total area of 365 km2 (141 sq mi).[20][21] With around 2 million Palestinians[22] on approximately 365 km2 (141 sq mi) of land, Gaza has one of the world's highest population densities.[23][24] The Gza Strip contains eight refugee camps.[25] Sunni Muslims make up most of Gaza's population, with a Palestinian Christian minority. Gaza has an annual population growth rate of 1.99% (2023 est.), the 39th-highest in the world.[26] Gaza's unemployment rate is among the highest in the world, with an overall unemployment rate of 46% and a youth unemployment rate of ~70%, according to the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics, while the population has one of the highest literacy rates in the world.[27][28][29]