Islam is misunderstood.

[bripat9643]

Gee. I'd love to spread the word, but I'm too busy defending it against people like you. I have quoted Scripture on numerous occasions, but people simply don't listen. Because they hate the truth. I have also spread the word, on here, as well as other forums. But it falls on deaf ears. And I'm not attacking Islam or Muslims. I am simply pointing out the fact that their behavior, behavior endorsed by the Koran as well as other Muslim texts, is not socially acceptable by any same definition. The simple fact is that Islam teaches its followers to kill anyone who doesn't worship their false god. If you don't have a problem with that, then you should.

I would imagine that people don't listen because you're a narcissistic hypocrite that barely knows what is in the Bible, let alone has the ability to quote it. ....

Anytime you want to debate Scripture, just let me know. Any subject. Any time. Bring it on, and we'll see just who knows what.

Most Muslims don't follow their storybooks to the letter any more than Christians and Jews do.

The more devout they are, the more they follow it. Polls show that large percetage of them believe the Q'ran should be taken literally.

He'll quote something from the Old Testament, no doubt. What an idiot.

Um, yeah. the Old Testament is in the Christian Bible. The God of Abraham is the God of Jesus.

Did he suddenly become a nicer guy because he was human for a few years?

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[Issa]

The Regressive Left and Islam -- What is happening here?

Oh, look everyone... Mac is trying to rationalize his Islamophobia again.

Reality check. We have a problem in that region of the world because of our own policies. The more we get involved, the more we foul it up.

Nothing more, nothing less.

We stick our hand in a hornet's nest and complain about getting stung.

Only fools believe muslim countries wouldn't be a problem if the West hadn't "interfered." Britain ruled India for hundreds of years, and we don't have a problem with it. The same goes for about a dozen African countries. The problem exists only in countries that have a majority Muslim population.

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Hmmm so the west can around fucking up countries, and everyone should be happy?
Didn't the Brit think of Americans as terrorists when they were pushing them out?

Our biggest issue is backing the occupation of Palestine we paying a heavy price and we will for a long time to come. Instead of playing the peace keeper we are making enemies left and right.

 

[The Original Tree]

Not only were they allies of Hitler, they helped Hitler design his Genocidal Machinery and methods he used to kill over 7 Million Jews.

They killed 2 Million Jews in The Armenian Gemocide so they were well versed in how to conduct genocide.

Islam is the most murderous cult on the planet.

Life comes from God & Death comes from Hell.

Islam is a Death Cult and the reward for it’s followers is not 72 Virgins in Paradise, it’s 72 Demons in Hell!

In the past century there have been more acts of aggression by Christian nations against Muslim nations, than the other way around.

Considering they were on the wrong side of two world wars just might have something to do with that, wouldn't you think?

Facts :
Muslims fought mostly on the allies side. I know they didn't teach you that in school...Muslims of East Asia (Indians), north Africa and others did help the allies to defeat the Nazis. One of thrm was my grandfather.

And which history book was that mentioned in? Because it is a fact that Muslims were allies of Hitler.

 

[bripat9643]

In the past century there have been more acts of aggression by Christian nations against Muslim nations, than the other way around.

Yeah, just last week an Episcopalian minister beheaded several people for not dropping a fiver in the plate.

We invaded Iraq in 1991 and killed thousands of their people. Do you wish to tell us why, to show us you know why?

We invaded Iraq in '91 because they invaded Kuwait.

No. We invaded Iraq in 1991 to secure our continued access to the oil. The dispute between Iraq and Kuwait was otherwise not our concern.

Saddam's invasion was a threat to the entire civilized world. He would have controlles 2/3 of the world's oil supply if his invasion had been allowed to stand.

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[bripat9643]

Christianity had centuries of history of violence, aggression, annihilation of non-Christians, overrunning and exploiting foreign lands in the name of the religion,

but then, once Christians had taken over half the world,

they suddenly decided, oh no, such behavior is unacceptable!!!

Christianity did not take over any countries or peoole in the name of Chritianity except for the small sliver of crusader states that were retaken from the muzzie savages.

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[bripat9643]

Anytime you want to debate Scripture, just let me know. Any subject. Any time. Bring it on, and we'll see just who knows what.

Most Muslims don't follow their storybooks to the letter any more than Christians and Jews do.

Lol
Their god does... see
THE CRIMES OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD

Muslims are sanctified by the blood of murdered kafirs. If the prophet of Islam, Mohammed, was alive today he would be sitting on death row somewhere waiting for his execution.

What is important to understand is that none of these depraved and criminal acts are seen as crimes to Muslims, except if they are committed by someone else. They are all holy, divine acts that their own prophet indulged in and therefore they have been given the stamp of validation as the moral code to be emulated by all Muslim men. They are all Sunna [The traditional portion of Muslim law based on Muhammad’s words or acts, accepted (together with the Koran) as authoritative by Muslims].

• Molested his wife – six-year-old Baby Aisha. One of Baby Aisha’s wifely duties was to clean semen stains from the prophet’s clothes. The prophet would take a bath with Baby Aisha and ‘thigh’ with Baby Aisha, meaning she was too small to be penetrated so he would take his penis and rub it up and down her thighs and against her vagina. Being a man of ‘mercy’ he did not penetrate Baby Aisha until she was nine.

• Raped Baby Aisha when she was nine (texts have altered her age when Muslims could not explain why their prophet married and consummated the marriage with a small child. Koranic texts makes it clear that Mohammed married her when she was six years old. For a marriage to be legally deemed valid it had to be sexually consummated. The Hadith clearly proves that Mohammed was a notorious pedophile). Advocated sex with baby girls.

• Raped a retarded woman. Murdered a woman. Had sex with his dead aunt.

• Captured women and raped them. Kept women as sex slaves. Muhammad had sex with 61 women: many he raped. There is no consensual sex between a child girl and a man. There is no consensual sex between a master and his sex slave. There is no consensual sex between a woman conquered in war and her husband conqueror. All such sexual acts are rape. RAPE IS RAPE.

• Had eleven wives at one time. Sexually abused his wives. Raped his wives. Forced sex during their menstruation including Baby Aisha. Mentally abused his wives. Can you imagine taking a child (or any aged woman) and molesting with your hand/fist her menstruating vagina?

• Beheaded his enemies. 600/900 Jewish men at one massacre. Had Jewish boys as young as 13 years old beheaded after pulling down their pants and inspecting groin for pubic hair.

• Ordered the murder, torture, terrorization of Christians and Jews if they did not convert to Islam. Forced Christians and Jews from Saudi Arabia (the mass exile).

• Assassinated people for insulting him or Islam. Established totalitarian rule. Had followers and their families burnt alive in their homes for missing prayer.

• Ordered the extermination, torture and terrorization of kafirs. Instigated 60 massacres and personally participated in 27 of them.

• Owned and sold slaves. Enslaved women and children.

• Called his black slaves pug noses and compared them to Satan.

• Treated his black slaves as beasts of burden.

• Lied and cheated. Mohammed encouraged his men to lie to deceive someone in order to get what he wanted.

• Caused division and hatred. Ordered no befriending with Christians and Jews.

• Subjugated and oppressed Muslim women. Required them to cover their faces.

• Married his daughter–in–law.

• Approved prostitution.

• Encouraged the rape of women in front of their husbands.

• Recommended wife beating. Hit his wife – Baby Aisha.

• Murdered prisoners of war. Committed acts of terror.

• Advocated suicide attacks.

• Executed apostates and homosexuals.

• Beat children who didn’t pray. Abolished adoption.

• Honor killings of Muslim women and children.

• Beat alcoholics. Lied.

• Stoned adulators to death. Stoned a woman to death after she had given birth.

• Ordered thief’s hands/feet chopped off.

• Tortured a man out of greed.

• Looted and plundered.

• Preached hate for people of other religions.

• Extorted money from other religions

• Forced conversions to Islam

• Allowed his companions to execute, behead, rape and enslave.

.

References to prophet Mohammed’s crimes:

Hat tip to our reader Craig for the due diligence in providing the references to these claims.

— Muhammad’s marriage to 6yr old Aisha-(Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234 and 236).

— Aisha cleans Muhammad’s semen stains-(Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 4, Number 229-233),

— Muhammad fondling Aisha during her ‘Menses’- (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 6, Number 298-300, Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 1, Number 0270)

— Muhammad liked to have intercourse with Aisha and his other wives when they were menstruating (Sahih Muslim, Book 003, Number 0577-0579),

— He also loved to recite the Quran when his wives were in Menses while lying between their legs!-(Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 6, Number 296), (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 639)

— Muhammad married his adopted Son’s wife called ‘Zaynab’ after lusting for her and then banned Adoption in Islam- (Surah 33:37,Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 305, Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3330, Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 516,The History of Al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam, translated by Michael Fishbein, 1997], Volume VIII, pp. 2-3)

— Muhammad having sex with his dead Aunt in the Grave-( “Kanz Al Umal” (The Treasure of the Workers, by Ali Ibn Husam Aldin, commonly known as Al-Mutaki Al-Hindi. He based his book on the hadiths and sayings listed in “Al-Jami Al-Saghir,” written by Jalal ul-Din Al-Suyuti.)

— ‘I (Muhammad) put on her my shirt that she may wear the clothes of heaven, and I slept with her in her coffin (grave) that I may lessen the pressure of the grave. She was the best of Allah’s creatures to me after Abu Talib’… The prophet was referring to Fatima , the mother of Ali. “The Arabic word used here for slept is “Id’tajat,” and literally means “lay down” with her. It is often used to mean, “Lay down to have sex.”

— Muhammad and the Quran sanctioned sex with your wives and ‘married’ slave girls-(Quran – 70:22-30, 23:5,6, 4:24, 33:50), — Muhammad speaks of sex with Slave Girls- (Sahih Bukhari – Volume 3, #432, Volume 9, #506, Volume 5, #637, Sahih Muslim, Volume 2, #3371)

— Muhammad disagreed with ‘coitus interruptus’ with slave girls- he supported RAPE.

— Muhammad forces a 17 yr old Jewish girl called Safiyyah to marry him and rapes her on the same day her husband and family are killed in the battle of Khaibar (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 522, Volume 1, Book 8, Number 367).

— Al Tabari reported in his (‘The History of al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam’, Translated by Michael Fishbein) that even some of Muhammad’s wives and companions were shocked that he forced Safiyyah to marry him after beheading her husband, brother and father.

So?

whenever Christian atrocities are brought up, people like you say, oh, well, but that was centuries ago.

And what is wrong with that? Those people are dead. The ones dying today killed by people inspired by Islam is what concerns critics of Islam.

Muslims left America alone until we started meddling in the affairs of the Middle East.

Wrong. You are forgetting the abarbary pirates. You're also forgetting all the hijackings and bombings that occured prior to the first Gulf war.

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[The Original Tree]

Let me translate:

Satan is a Liar and The Father of Lies and a Murderer.

He is the Adversary of God, of Truth of all that is Holy and Righteous.

allah is Called The Great Liar, The Great Deceiver, The Trickster In The Koran therefore he is Lucifer and is the enemy of This Country and all persons who do not practice Islam, and even many who do not practice the right Islam.

allah and all of his followers will spend eternity in Hell after the return of Christ and The Judgement!

Why would I waste time studying a book written by a murderer and a pedophile? And I just knew you'd chicken out on me. I answered your question and all I got back was insults. You're not helping your case at all. You are an intellectual coward, or you would debate the OP instead of offering deflections and insults. Welcome to my ignore list, PUNK

Allow me to translate:

My brand of baloney is better than your brand of baloney.

 

[RWNJ]

The Regressive Left and Islam -- What is happening here?

Oh, look everyone... Mac is trying to rationalize his Islamophobia again.

Reality check. We have a problem in that region of the world because of our own policies. The more we get involved, the more we foul it up.

Nothing more, nothing less.

We stick our hand in a hornet's nest and complain about getting stung.

Only fools believe muslim countries wouldn't be a problem if the West hadn't "interfered." Britain ruled India for hundreds of years, and we don't have a problem with it. The same goes for about a dozen African countries. The problem exists only in countries that have a majority Muslim population.

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Hmmm so the west can around fucking up countries, and everyone should be happy?
Didn't the Brit think of Americans as terrorists when they were pushing them out?

Our biggest issue is backing the occupation of Palestine we paying a heavy price and we will for a long time to come. Instead of playing the peace keeper we are making enemies left and right.

Even if we had stayed on our side of the pond, Muslims would still hate us. It's not something we did. It's what they are that's the problem.

 

[Rustic]

Gee. I'd love to spread the word, but I'm too busy defending it against people like you. I have quoted Scripture on numerous occasions, but people simply don't listen. Because they hate the truth. I have also spread the word, on here, as well as other forums. But it falls on deaf ears. And I'm not attacking Islam or Muslims. I am simply pointing out the fact that their behavior, behavior endorsed by the Koran as well as other Muslim texts, is not socially acceptable by any same definition. The simple fact is that Islam teaches its followers to kill anyone who doesn't worship their false god. If you don't have a problem with that, then you should.

I would imagine that people don't listen because you're a narcissistic hypocrite that barely knows what is in the Bible, let alone has the ability to quote it. ....

Anytime you want to debate Scripture, just let me know. Any subject. Any time. Bring it on, and we'll see just who knows what.

Most Muslims don't follow their storybooks to the letter any more than Christians and Jews do.

Lol
Their god does... see
THE CRIMES OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD

Muslims are sanctified by the blood of murdered kafirs. If the prophet of Islam, Mohammed, was alive today he would be sitting on death row somewhere waiting for his execution.

What is important to understand is that none of these depraved and criminal acts are seen as crimes to Muslims, except if they are committed by someone else. They are all holy, divine acts that their own prophet indulged in and therefore they have been given the stamp of validation as the moral code to be emulated by all Muslim men. They are all Sunna [The traditional portion of Muslim law based on Muhammad’s words or acts, accepted (together with the Koran) as authoritative by Muslims].

• Molested his wife – six-year-old Baby Aisha. One of Baby Aisha’s wifely duties was to clean semen stains from the prophet’s clothes. The prophet would take a bath with Baby Aisha and ‘thigh’ with Baby Aisha, meaning she was too small to be penetrated so he would take his penis and rub it up and down her thighs and against her vagina. Being a man of ‘mercy’ he did not penetrate Baby Aisha until she was nine.

• Raped Baby Aisha when she was nine (texts have altered her age when Muslims could not explain why their prophet married and consummated the marriage with a small child. Koranic texts makes it clear that Mohammed married her when she was six years old. For a marriage to be legally deemed valid it had to be sexually consummated. The Hadith clearly proves that Mohammed was a notorious pedophile). Advocated sex with baby girls.

• Raped a retarded woman. Murdered a woman. Had sex with his dead aunt.

• Captured women and raped them. Kept women as sex slaves. Muhammad had sex with 61 women: many he raped. There is no consensual sex between a child girl and a man. There is no consensual sex between a master and his sex slave. There is no consensual sex between a woman conquered in war and her husband conqueror. All such sexual acts are rape. RAPE IS RAPE.

• Had eleven wives at one time. Sexually abused his wives. Raped his wives. Forced sex during their menstruation including Baby Aisha. Mentally abused his wives. Can you imagine taking a child (or any aged woman) and molesting with your hand/fist her menstruating vagina?

• Beheaded his enemies. 600/900 Jewish men at one massacre. Had Jewish boys as young as 13 years old beheaded after pulling down their pants and inspecting groin for pubic hair.

• Ordered the murder, torture, terrorization of Christians and Jews if they did not convert to Islam. Forced Christians and Jews from Saudi Arabia (the mass exile).

• Assassinated people for insulting him or Islam. Established totalitarian rule. Had followers and their families burnt alive in their homes for missing prayer.

• Ordered the extermination, torture and terrorization of kafirs. Instigated 60 massacres and personally participated in 27 of them.

• Owned and sold slaves. Enslaved women and children.

• Called his black slaves pug noses and compared them to Satan.

• Treated his black slaves as beasts of burden.

• Lied and cheated. Mohammed encouraged his men to lie to deceive someone in order to get what he wanted.

• Caused division and hatred. Ordered no befriending with Christians and Jews.

• Subjugated and oppressed Muslim women. Required them to cover their faces.

• Married his daughter–in–law.

• Approved prostitution.

• Encouraged the rape of women in front of their husbands.

• Recommended wife beating. Hit his wife – Baby Aisha.

• Murdered prisoners of war. Committed acts of terror.

• Advocated suicide attacks.

• Executed apostates and homosexuals.

• Beat children who didn’t pray. Abolished adoption.

• Honor killings of Muslim women and children.

• Beat alcoholics. Lied.

• Stoned adulators to death. Stoned a woman to death after she had given birth.

• Ordered thief’s hands/feet chopped off.

• Tortured a man out of greed.

• Looted and plundered.

• Preached hate for people of other religions.

• Extorted money from other religions

• Forced conversions to Islam

• Allowed his companions to execute, behead, rape and enslave.

.

References to prophet Mohammed’s crimes:

Hat tip to our reader Craig for the due diligence in providing the references to these claims.

— Muhammad’s marriage to 6yr old Aisha-(Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234 and 236).

— Aisha cleans Muhammad’s semen stains-(Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 4, Number 229-233),

— Muhammad fondling Aisha during her ‘Menses’- (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 6, Number 298-300, Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 1, Number 0270)

— Muhammad liked to have intercourse with Aisha and his other wives when they were menstruating (Sahih Muslim, Book 003, Number 0577-0579),

— He also loved to recite the Quran when his wives were in Menses while lying between their legs!-(Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 6, Number 296), (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 639)

— Muhammad married his adopted Son’s wife called ‘Zaynab’ after lusting for her and then banned Adoption in Islam- (Surah 33:37,Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 305, Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3330, Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 516,The History of Al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam, translated by Michael Fishbein, 1997], Volume VIII, pp. 2-3)

— Muhammad having sex with his dead Aunt in the Grave-( “Kanz Al Umal” (The Treasure of the Workers, by Ali Ibn Husam Aldin, commonly known as Al-Mutaki Al-Hindi. He based his book on the hadiths and sayings listed in “Al-Jami Al-Saghir,” written by Jalal ul-Din Al-Suyuti.)

— ‘I (Muhammad) put on her my shirt that she may wear the clothes of heaven, and I slept with her in her coffin (grave) that I may lessen the pressure of the grave. She was the best of Allah’s creatures to me after Abu Talib’… The prophet was referring to Fatima , the mother of Ali. “The Arabic word used here for slept is “Id’tajat,” and literally means “lay down” with her. It is often used to mean, “Lay down to have sex.”

— Muhammad and the Quran sanctioned sex with your wives and ‘married’ slave girls-(Quran – 70:22-30, 23:5,6, 4:24, 33:50), — Muhammad speaks of sex with Slave Girls- (Sahih Bukhari – Volume 3, #432, Volume 9, #506, Volume 5, #637, Sahih Muslim, Volume 2, #3371)

— Muhammad disagreed with ‘coitus interruptus’ with slave girls- he supported RAPE.

— Muhammad forces a 17 yr old Jewish girl called Safiyyah to marry him and rapes her on the same day her husband and family are killed in the battle of Khaibar (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 522, Volume 1, Book 8, Number 367).

— Al Tabari reported in his (‘The History of al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam’, Translated by Michael Fishbein) that even some of Muhammad’s wives and companions were shocked that he forced Safiyyah to marry him after beheading her husband, brother and father.

So?

whenever Christian atrocities are brought up, people like you say, oh, well, but that was centuries ago.

Christians are never called to perform “atrocities” like Islam calls for...
Do you watch too many Hollywood movies

 

[Kondor3]

Islam is based upon the conquest and suppression of Unbelievers.

It is the last of the world's large-scale Warrior Cults.

As such, it is a cancer upon the face of Mankind.

Great slaughter has been perpetrated upon Mankind by the adherents of Christianity; during some eras, even more than Islam.

However, Christian slaughter is perpetrated in direct disobedience fo the tenants and core teachings of Jesus of Nazareth.

Islamic slaughter, on the other hand, is perpetrated in direct obedience to the tenants and core teachings of Muhammed.

 

[equalizer_0]

Islam is misunderstood.

People are ignorant and will generally misunderstand any religion to their own benefit and others' disadvantage.

 

[buckeye45_73]

In the past century there have been more acts of aggression by Christian nations against Muslim nations, than the other way around.

world wars don't count, it wasnst about religion in those you dumbfuck

What's the difference? What was our aggression against Iraq in 1991 motivated by?

we were defending an ally kuwait. isnt it you guys that complain about imperialism?

 

[RWNJ]

Islam is misunderstood.

People are ignorant and will generally misunderstand any religion to their own benefit and others' disadvantage.

It's kinda hard to misunderstand Islam. A religion created by a murderer and a pedophile. Enough said. Just saying.

 

[buckeye45_73]

In the past century there have been more acts of aggression by Christian nations against Muslim nations, than the other way around.

world wars don't count, it wasnst about religion in those you dumbfuck

Why would World Wars not count? In the aftermath of WWI, the European 'winners' simply went into the ME and carved up and invented nations with impunity.

they also had their independance. sure british petroleum used the oil, but they haf their own govt after the ottoman empire fell

 

[equalizer_0]

It's kinda hard to misunderstand Islam. A religion created by a murderer and a pedophile. Enough said. Just saying.

I'm not in a position to defend Islam, but people misunderstood Christianity, too. They called Jesus a wine-bibber and a gluttonous man while they mocked John the Baptist for fasting, and put both of them to death.

 

[JusticeHammer]

In the past century there have been more acts of aggression by Christian nations against Muslim nations, than the other way around.

world wars don't count, it wasnst about religion in those you dumbfuck

What's the difference? What was our aggression against Iraq in 1991 motivated by?

Sadam invaded Kuwait. Pretty simple, you should have not embarrassed yourself.

 

[RWNJ]

It's kinda hard to misunderstand Islam. A religion created by a murderer and a pedophile. Enough said. Just saying.

I'm not in a position to defend Islam, but people misunderstood Christianity, too. They called Jesus a wine-bibber and a gluttonous man while they mocked John the Baptist for fasting, and put both of them to death.

Yeah. Some people get really upset when you tell them that they are a sinner.

 

[Lastamender]

In the past century there have been more acts of aggression by Christian nations against Muslim nations, than the other way around.

Considering they were on the wrong side of two world wars just might have something to do with that, wouldn't you think?

Facts :
Muslims fought mostly on the allies side. I know they didn't teach you that in school...Muslims of East Asia (Indians), north Africa and others did help the allies to defeat the Nazis. One of thrm was my grandfather.

Show us those facts.

 

[Lastamender]

Islam is based upon the conquest and suppression of Unbelievers.

It is the last of the world's large-scale Warrior Cults.

As such, it is a cancer upon the face of Mankind.

Great slaughter has been perpetrated upon Mankind by the adherents of Christianity; during some eras, even more than Islam.

However, Christian slaughter is perpetrated in direct disobedience fo the tenants and core teachings of Jesus of Nazareth.

Islamic slaughter, on the other hand, is perpetrated in direct obedience to the tenants and core teachings of Muhammed.

Your last sentence is the one people refuse to listen to, why? Too much proof Islam is what it is? Everyone has run away from what those verses say, and say clearly, time someone tells us why this should be ignored and not seen as a very serious problem.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

We invaded Iraq in '91 because they invaded Kuwait.

And why was that our problem, again?

It wasn’t, but they are an ally and we weren’t the only country that came to aid them