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Well, um, yeah, you go in and steal someone's land and make them second class citizens in their own country, don't be surprised when they attack you.
Well, um, yeah, you go in and steal someone's land and make them second class citizens in their own country, don't be surprised when they attack you.
If you refer to the Palestinians, I have a question for you.
What land has been 'stolen' as you said?
The vast majority of Israel's territory was a barren unsettled desert before the Jews came along.
And what country did you refer to by saying "second class citizens in their own country"
You don't get to call yourself a "Democracy" when only one group gets to vote.
If Israel were a democracy, it vote itself out of existance because half the population doesn't want to be "Israel".
Having perused this thread a bit, I would like to comment on several responses. Israel is a democracy and is comprised of Muslims, Christians and Jews and others religions. Freedom of religion is in its constitution - ( the population bomb is a concern to many Jewish supporters). All groups get to vote.
Adolf Hitler nixed the Madagascar Plan... per the wiki article in 1938 if memory serves me right. Evidently they relied on Britians' fleet of vessels to move the Jews of Europe to Madagascar.... which was a French colony under Vischy rule. I've read articles where Adolf Eichman visited Israel in order to try and get Zionists there to accept European Jews... the Zionists didn't want anything to do with the European Jews.. leading a prominent Jeewish leader to say " One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Europe."- I believe.
More Jews lived in peace under the regime of Saddam Hussien in Bagdad than there is lived in Bagdad today under US domination... wonder why? How many Jews live in Tehran? Under the rule of Ahmadinejad? So democracy is the problem for the remaning nations of the ME... not that Jews live in Israel... as most people believe.
Berk
I hear that there are about 25,000 Jews living in Iran. Also, there are about 3000 living in Palestine.
FYI, all Palestinians are equal without regard to race, religion, sex, etc. according to their constitution.
Well, um, yeah, you go in and steal someone's land and make them second class citizens in their own country, don't be surprised when they attack you.
If you refer to the Palestinians, I have a question for you.
What land has been 'stolen' as you said?
The vast majority of Israel's territory was a barren unsettled desert before the Jews came along.
And what country did you refer to by saying "second class citizens in their own country"
Horseshit. There were Arabs living there for hundreds of years before the Zionists started flooding the place. It was not "unsettled". There were people there who were displaced by the Zionist settlers, and that was the point.
Of course, given the fact this country was created by people from Europe displacing the folks who were here first, I guess I can see why the affinity.
Israel will eventually be driven into the sea, and they'll have no one to blame but themselves.
There were Arabs living there for hundreds of years before the Zionists started flooding the place.
Between the fall of the northern Kingdom of Israel in 722 BCE and the Muslim conquests of the 7th century CE (a period of over 1500 years), the region came under Assyrian, Babylonian, Persian, Greek, Roman, Sassanid, and Byzantine rule.[42][43] Jewish presence in the region significantly dwindled after the failure of the Bar Kokhba revolt against the Roman Empire in 132 CE.[44] Nevertheless, there was a continuous small Jewish presence and Galilee became its religious center.[45][46] The Mishnah and part of the Talmud, central Jewish texts, were composed during the 2nd to 4th centuries CE in Tiberias and Jerusalem.[47] In 635 CE, the region, including Jerusalem, was conquered by the Arabs and was to remain under Muslim control for the next 1300 years.[48] Control of the region transferred between the Umayyads,[48] Abbasids,[48] and Crusaders throughout the next six centuries,[48] before being conquered by the Mamluk Sultanate, in 1260.[49] In 1516, the region was conquered by the Ottoman Empire, and remained under Turkish rule until the 20th century.[49]
is inaccurate at best, and second , what do you mean , displacing ? what did they load them on trucks and moved them away ?Europe displacing the folks who were here first
I don't get it ...
Are you saying that women allowed to drive in Gaza ?
Or are you saying that homosexual men do not get stoned to death in Gaza ?
Or are you saying that a person could leave the Islam faith without ramifications ?
I don't get it ...
Are you saying that women allowed to drive in Gaza ?
Or are you saying that homosexual men do not get stoned to death in Gaza ?
Or are you saying that a person could leave the Islam faith without ramifications ?
Yes, women can drive in Gaza.
Never heard of a homo being stoned to death in Gaza.
There are also both arab Christians and Jews in Gaza; so I don't see a problem with leaving any religion.
Vigilantes have killed, beaten, and threatened converts in Pakistan, the Palestinian territories, Turkey, Nigeria, Syria, Somalia, and Kenya.
Good to know.Yes, women can drive in Gaza.
You are right , to say the truth i never heard of a homo being stoned to death in gaza also... maybe i was out of place to suggest it.Never heard of a homo being stoned to death in Gaza.
You would be able to answer that question much better than me.But are you saying that a person could be openly gay without ramifications ?
You would be able to answer that question much better than me.But are you saying that a person could be openly gay without ramifications ?
You would be able to answer that question much better than me.But are you saying that a person could be openly gay without ramifications ?
Funny indeed
But still evading answering ...
disappointing
I haven't ever been to Gaza so I really don't know the answer.You would be able to answer that question much better than me.But are you saying that a person could be openly gay without ramifications ?
Funny indeed
But still evading answering ...
disappointing
You would be able to answer that question much better than me.
Funny indeed
But still evading answering ...
disappointing
I don't think there are any laws. But like most other places religion ranges from secular through moderate, conservative, and freakazoid. It is usually the latter that are the problem there as well as here.
Israel and weapons of mass destruction
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Israel is widely known to possess weapons of mass destruction, and to be one of four nuclear-armed countries not recognized as a Nuclear Weapons State by the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).[1] The US Congress Office of Technology Assessment has recorded Israel as a country generally reported as having undeclared chemical warfare capabilities, and an offensive biological warfare program.[2] Officially Israel neither confirms nor denies possessing nuclear weapons.
[edit] Nuclear weapons
Main article: Nuclear weapons and Israel
It is believed that Israel had possessed an operational nuclear weapons capability by 1967, with the mass production of nuclear warheads occurring immediately after the Six-Day War.[2] Although no official statistics exist, it has been estimated that Israel possesses from 75 to as many as 400 nuclear weapons, which are reported to include thermonuclear weapons in the megaton range.[3][4][5] Israel is also reported to possess a wide range of different systems, including neutron bombs, tactical nuclear weapons, and suitcase nukes.[6] Israel is believed to manufacture its nuclear weapons at the Negev Nuclear Research Center, a highly secretive nuclear installation located near Dimona.
Delivery mechanisms include Jericho intercontinental ballistic missiles, with a range of 11,500 km, and which are believed to provide a second-strike option. Israel's nuclear-capable ballistic missiles are believed to be buried so far underground that they would survive a nuclear attack.[7][8] Additionally, Israel is believed to have an offshore nuclear second-strike capability, using submarine launched nuclear-capable cruise missiles, which can be launched from the Israeli Navy's Dolphin-class submarines.[9] Although the Israeli Air Force lacks strategic bombers to deliver nuclear weapons over long range, its F-15I and F-16I Sufa fighter aircraft are capable of delivering nuclear weapons.
Israel and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Iran has every right to protect it's people from Israel.
And Israelites were living there long before Arabs set foot on this land , but you don't mention that.
As you can see your assumption onis inaccurate at best, and second , what do you mean , displacing ? what did they load them on trucks and moved them away ?Europe displacing the folks who were here first
And Israelites were living there long before Arabs set foot on this land , but you don't mention that.
As you can see your assumption onis inaccurate at best, and second , what do you mean , displacing ? what did they load them on trucks and moved them away ?Europe displacing the folks who were here first
"Isrealites" Aren't "Israelis".
And
The Jews were dispersed out of the land by the Romans in the second century, largely because they just got tired of putting down revolts. The Arabs let some come back after the Islamic conquest. But with the exception of the Crusades, that's been Islamic land for most of the last 1400 years.
The people who settled that land were European Jews, who had long ago adopted European culture and language. So it's really a European colony. Kind of Like South Africa, and we all know how well that turned out.
According to their tradition, the Jewish people originated from the Israelites of the Southern Levant, who had several independent states before being overtaken first by the Assyrian and Babylonian Empires and later the Roman Empire, with a large portion of the population being scattered throughout the world. According to the Hebrew Bible, all Israelites were descended from Abraham, who was born in the Sumerian city of Ur, and migrated to Canaan (commonly known as the Land of Israel) with his family. Genetic studies on Jews show that most Jews worldwide do indeed bear a common genetic heritage which originates in the Middle East, and that they bear their strongest resemblance to the peoples of the Fertile Crescent, with only minor contribution from their host populations[17]"Isrealites" Aren't "Israelis".
What does it matter what language were they speaking and what culture they adopted?The people who settled that land were European Jews, who had long ago adopted European culture and language.
For example a black person doesn't suddenly become white if he speaks English and celebrates Christmas.
According to their tradition, the Jewish people originated from the Israelites of the Southern Levant,
You know, I'm always amazed how so-called "Conservatives" are made to dance to the tune of this liberal, socialist state that is subsidized by American Tax dollars.
"We need Israel so Jay-a-zus can come back like the bible says!"
Israel touts it's self as a very prosperous First World democracy with a robust economy and leading in many ares of research and development.If you are referring to the US foreign aid given to Israel you should note few facts:
In fiscal year 2009, the U.S. government allocated the following amounts for aid:
Total economic and military assistance: $47.7 billion
Israel is the recipient of $5.2 of that money.
That makes it about 10% of the total amount.
American Tax dollars goes to many countries and yet it seems you are more upset about the 10% going to Israel then the 90% going to other places.
