Israel got its statehood using terrorisms

John, I spent time in Germany, following WW2 by 18 years. Germans did not have fascism. They were a socialist country then at least.

Hitler broke with the socialists in 1926. He was hard right fascism by 1933 when he purged the German government of Socialists, Communists, Jews and Democrats. Every one spent time in Germany.
 
No, baby, it is form of capitalism and being such it pursued the same policies as any capitalist country, only with greater emphasis on open violence and carrying out genocide not only among black, yellow and red people, but also among whites.
Ringo, you don't get your own definitions. Run along.
 

Hitler broke with the socialists in 1926. He was hard right fascism by 1933 when he purged the German government of Socialists, Communists, Jews and Democrats. Every one spent time in Germany.
You seem actually interested in the history of the Nazis. I recommend you study the top ranked book on them called ****
The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
Book by William L. Shirer

True historians do not claim that Hitler broke with the socialists at all. While one has to dig for true history, since we are not reading the history story told by the Nazis, we end up getting poor and shoddy history by normally Americans. William Shirer however is the very best historian about the Nazis. Those interested will learn why Hitler remained a devoted Socialist and what he did for Germany that proves it.

Also, the word Fascism is an Italian word and the translation is bundle of sticks. Americans normally never knew about this. Fascism and Socialism are different. Hitler never followed the Italian model of Government.
 
Fascism is a form of socialism with right and left wings.
John, since you truly are interested, do you know the Italian word meaning Bundle of sticks?

Here it is. Fascism. What did the Italians mean by that? It means the public all joined as one.

I would say that a huge number of Americans think they defend Socialism by denying Hitler was always a socialist. I know they are not defending Hitler. But the man and his government went all out to be socialists. They still waged war on Stalin but not over his creed. They simply wanted to kill Jews and Slavs and create a larger place for Germans to live. It was just another massive land grab using weapons of war.
 
You seem actually interested in the history of the Nazis. I recommend you study the top ranked book on them called ****
The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
Book by William L. Shirer

True historians do not claim that Hitler broke with the socialists at all. While one has to dig for true history, since we are not reading the history story told by the Nazis, we end up getting poor and shoddy history by normally Americans. William Shirer however is the very best historian about the Nazis. Those interested will learn why Hitler remained a devoted Socialist and what he did for Germany that proves it.

Also, the word Fascism is an Italian word and the translation is bundle of sticks. Americans normally never knew about this. Fascism and Socialism are different. Hitler never followed the Italian model of Government.
... he adapted fascism and dropped socialism when he got rid of the SA. Read your history. You write wrongly, "But the man and his government went all out to be socialists."
 

Hitler broke with the socialists in 1926. He was hard right fascism by 1933 when he purged the German government of Socialists, Communists, Jews and Democrats. Every one spent time in Germany.
It seems to me like you never read the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. But there is much more. Fascism, a Readers Guide. It also mentions the Nazis. Matter of fact I am looking at my book now and looking up the part about the nazis. While I found the Shirer book extremely informative, this book is not pleased with that book. Primarily the problem he says is the book was a rushed book when the time of the book the Allies were consumed with trying the Nazis and hung many of them and shot others.

I am still reading the book, commencing on page 151 about Hitler. He criticizes the rush to judgement about Hitler yet (this is very important) blasts those who tried to create a history to justify Hitler. He argues those doing that are extremely wrong.

Anyway, I will quit what amounts to a partial book report and when done will try to get back to this important history. I do recommend this for being a very good book on the Fascists. Up to the point I paused reading it, he does not claim that Hitler's form of socialism was the Soviets form. He points out that France was his mortal enemy. We now have to recall it was Germany that also invaded France in WW1.
 
... he adapted fascism and dropped socialism when he got rid of the SA. Read your history. You write wrongly, "But the man and his government went all out to be socialists."
Fortunately my library is cloaked with explanations of Socialist Germany. And I know not why you got the idea he adopted Fascism. I recall in reading of this subject that a prominent German Nazi had also spoken of why they were Socialists. Surely you do not want to defend socialists? One example of the Socialist side of the Nazis is this ship.

The MV Gustloff was the first ship built specifically for the German Labour Front's Kraft durch Freude (“Strength Through Joy”) program, which subsidized leisure activities for German workers. It measured 684 feet (208.5 metres) in length and weighed more than 25,000 tons.Sep 21, 2023

Wilhelm Gustloff | History, Casualties, & Facts - Britannica​

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... he adapted fascism and dropped socialism when he got rid of the SA. Read your history. You write wrongly, "But the man and his government went all out to be socialists."
Actually, there are a plethora of book called history of the Nazis. I did not read England's version but the critique was it's heavily biased and of course one sided.
 
... he adapted fascism and dropped socialism when he got rid of the SA. Read your history. You write wrongly, "But the man and his government went all out to be socialists."
Hitler did not adopt Fascism. Not sure where you got the idea however. You do not reason why Hitler would quit socialism. What have you read to justify your claim? Are you not aware of important nazis who proclaimed they remained socialist?
 
You seem actually interested in the history of the Nazis. I recommend you study the top ranked book on them called ****
The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
Book by William L. Shirer

True historians do not claim that Hitler broke with the socialists at all. While one has to dig for true history, since we are not reading the history story told by the Nazis, we end up getting poor and shoddy history by normally Americans. William Shirer however is the very best historian about the Nazis. Those interested will learn why Hitler remained a devoted Socialist and what he did for Germany that proves it.

Also, the word Fascism is an Italian word and the translation is bundle of sticks. Americans normally never knew about this. Fascism and Socialism are different. Hitler never followed the Italian model of Government.
I have read it twice.
 
Hitler did not adopt Fascism. Not sure where you got the idea however. You do not reason why Hitler would quit socialism. What have you read to justify your claim? Are you not aware of important nazis who proclaimed they remained socialist?
Hitler put socialists in dachau.
 
Hitler put socialists in dachau.
Did you read that in the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. But you did not tell the forum he would put them in dachau blaming them for being socialists.
 
Hitler put socialists in dachau.
What I have long noticed is that Americans that fancy themselves as socialists defend socialists connections to Hitler. To not be connected to the Nazis and no other purpose. IF I am wrong, they need to stop defending Socialism. We will note that not even Democrats are unified as a grand party. And the Republicans are not in lock step either. I would say our current Democrats grand aims is to be a socialist form of Government.

If you notice among their attacks is that Republicans want to withdraw from Socialism and end Social Security and Medicare. Though it could save trillions of dollars, so far the Republicans do not want to kill either, just want to keep them solvent.
 
Hitler put socialists in dachau.
Dachau concentration camp
Dachau
Original usePolitical prison
OperationalMarch 1933 – April 1945
InmatesPolitical prisoners, Poles, Romani, Jews, homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholic priests, Communists
Number of inmatesOver 188,000 (estimated)
 
Today is what matters...
The Haganah gang was transformed into the Israel Defense Force (IDF)

FIRST ACTS OF TERRORISM, COINING THE PHRASE

November 6, 1944. Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.

July 22, 1946. Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem,.,.,killing or injuring more than 200 persons.

October 1, 1946. The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.

September 3, 1947. A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8)

December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.

December 19, 1947. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses in the ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted responsibility for the attack.

December 13, 1947 -- February 10, 1948. Seven incidents of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing 138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4 occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding 161 others.

December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.

June 1947. Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to contain bombs.

December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa ; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.

December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.

January 4, 1948. Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms penetrated into the center of Jaffa and blew up the Serai (the old Turkish Government House) killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98 others.
etc.....etc....etc...........
Haganah | Jewish militia, Palestine, defense force
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Congratulations. Where in the book, since I also have the book, does it claim Hitler adopted Fascism or dropped Socialism?

Look it up. In 1926 he split with the German socialists in 1933 he put them in Dachau.
 
Look it up. In 1926 he split with the German socialists in 1933 he put them in Dachau.
I will look it up when you tell me what page. He put Jehovah witness into Dachau so what did that prove? He also jailed communists.

Tell me why you keep defending socialists????????????????????
 

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