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So to recap Israelis indeed treating about 2 million Arabs with equality, and those who are upset are the ones that aren't Israelis, but Arabs who are paying for the consequence of joining with 5 Arab countries in attacking and trying to destroy Israel?
Now that would be a ridiculous assertion, that even if Israel gets attacked it still has get permission do what it wants for land it won in a defensive war. I bet the Arabs would have committed genocide on any Jew left in the land, had they been the victors.
There has never been an Arab Palestine. Israel became Jewish Palestine and Jordan became Arab Palestine...As planned by league of nations and administered by those who controlled the land. Arabs had no control or ownership of the land for 800 years.
Muslims ruled Palestine for more than 1,200 years, 300+ years more than the Jews.
Between 1949 and 1967, the United States considered the West Bank to be Arab Palestine.
Muslims NEVER ruled Palestine. Owning land and living on it & Ruling land are two different things. Try again Seal
Muslims NEVER ruled Palestine. Owning land and living on it & Ruling land are two different things. Try again Seal
Sir, you can't be serious.
Muslims conquered Palestine in the 6th century, ruled it for four hundred years until the Crusaders conquered it. The Muslims then retook Palestine and ruled it until 1918.
This is fact.
Muslims NEVER ruled Palestine. Owning land and living on it & Ruling land are two different things. Try again Seal
Sir, you can't be serious.
Muslims conquered Palestine in the 6th century, ruled it for four hundred years until the Crusaders conquered it. The Muslims then retook Palestine and ruled it until 1918.
This is fact.
Actually, before 1918, it was the Turk who ruled the land. It doesn't matter if they were Muslims, as religion is not the issue here. The fact is, Turks are not Arabs. Arabs never had control over the land.
Show me where it says they need permission from Palestinians for those border agreements to be valid
(COMMENT)So to recap Israelis indeed treating about 2 million Arabs with equality, and those who are upset are the ones that aren't Israelis, but Arabs who are paying for the consequence of joining with 5 Arab countries in attacking and trying to destroy Israel?
Now that would be a ridiculous assertion, that even if Israel gets attacked it still has get permission do what it wants for land it won in a defensive war. I bet the Arabs would have committed genocide on any Jew left in the land, had they been the victors.
Israelis cannot cite the Balfour Declaration and Palestine Mandate as justification and vindication for their settlement operations in the West Bank while at the same time disregarding the articles of those same agreemants that condition Jewish settlement in all of Palestine upon equal and fair treatment to the non-Jewish population.
They can't have their cake AND eat it too.
Show me where it says they need permission from Palestinians for those border agreements to be valid
States shall take resolute steps to eliminate the massive and flagrant violations of the human rights of peoples and human beings affected by situations such as those resulting from apartheid, all forms of racism and racial discrimination, colonialism, foreign domination and occupation, aggression, foreign interference and threats against national sovereignty, national unity and territorial integrity, threats of war and refusal to recognize the fundamental right of peoples to self-determination.
http://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1770&context=ilj
(QUESTIONS)Show me where it says they need permission from Palestinians for those border agreements to be valid
States shall take resolute steps to eliminate the massive and flagrant violations of the human rights of peoples and human beings affected by situations such as those resulting from apartheid, all forms of racism and racial discrimination, colonialism, foreign domination and occupation, aggression, foreign interference and threats against national sovereignty, national unity and territorial integrity, threats of war and refusal to recognize the fundamental right of peoples to self-determination.
http://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1770&context=ilj
What is "illusion" and "perception"?Sweet_Caroline, Billo_Really; et al,
This is all illusion and perception.
After years of zionists treating them like garbage.The Arab Palestinian alienated themselves by adopting a hostile, depraved, and vicious profile.
The Partition was a UN Plan, a passed UN Resolution, and a cooperative offer. And this was the Arab Palestinian answer.
That "Plan" was shot down and is no longer relevent.In the whole of Palestine, Arabs owned 85 percent of the land, while Jews owned less than 7 percent, which remained the case up until the time of Israels creation.
Yet, despite these facts, the U.N. partition recommendation had called for more than half of the land of Palestine to be given to the Zionists for their Jewish State. The truth is that no Arab could be reasonably expected to accept such an unjust proposal.
We're not talking about "religious" rights at all. Religion has nothing to do with this. We're not really talking about "civil" rights, either. We're talking about "inalienable" rights. You cannot move into an area and automatically have more rights than the people already living there.When we talk of "civil and religious" rights --- what are we talking about? Rights for the Arab Palestinian and death for the Jewish Immigrant.
What about the policy of the zionists?I'm an American, but I can tell you, that is a deal breaker for anyone with half a brain and a survival instinct. Most Americans, and indeed, most of the world, don't understand the attitude the Arab Palestinian had then, and in 1967, had in 1973, had in 1988, and still has today. It has not changed. And the policy of the Palestinian needs to be firmly understood if we are to clearly understand the cause and situation that exists today.
Because it wasn't fair and should not have been enforced.The Way of the Palestinian Then and now!
THEN:
The Arabs of Palestine made a solemn declaration before the United Nations, before God and history, that they will never submit or yield to any power going to Palestine to enforce partition.The only way to establish partition is first to wipe them out man women and child.".
That is not what is now. Hamas leaders have said on more than one occasion, they're willing to accept a two-state solution, but Israel won't go for it.NOW:
Article 13 HAMAS Covenant: There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad.
Article 9 Palestine National Charter: Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine.
They are hostile, because Israel has occupied their land for almost half a century and are still treating them like garbage.The Arab Palestinian has stated its case; having not denied it --- and still promotes it today. Once the world understands the scope and true nature of the Hostile Arab Palestinian, they will understand the need for containment; and that corrective action is not a denial of Humanitarian Rights or Civil Liberties, but the necessary action taken to quarantine a culture that has no other foundation than that built on violence. They are self-proclaimed "Jihadist" of the First Order! and Greatest Magnitude! - They neither challenge this nor deny it.
I agree with that.Nothing can justify terrorism ever. No grievance, no goal, no cause can excuse terrorist acts.
.............................................................................UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon
By establishing racist, apartheid polices on land ownership and labour. By driving out over 700,000 arabs through the use of jewish terrorist groups like Irgun. And basically treating the arabs like they less human than they are.And just how has Israel reneged on that?
Now, show me where it says that permission was needed from the Palestinian Arabs, who had no sovereignty over the land, in order for the Israelis to declare borders in 1979 and 1994. Borders that are internationally recognized
End the occupation and you'll end the hate.Exactly. Even though the UN Resolution to divide the land was illegal (as the San Remo Mandate was protected), the arabs still refused the land and even to this very day preach hate. That is what Israel has to deal with on a daily basis from the Palestinians' government spokespeople, the Palestinian media, random attacks on Jews (including today) every day, etc.
Israel does the best it can under the circumstances, and still cooperates with the Palestinian Authority even though the PA don't officially recognize Israel's right to the land.
No one. Not a single country on the planet does. It's been that way for almost 50 years and it's not going to change.Who recognises Israel's 'ownership' of the West Bank or Gaza?
(COMMENT)After years of zionists treating them like garbage.The Arab Palestinian alienated themselves by adopting a hostile, depraved, and vicious profile.
If you constantly treat someone like shit, don't act surprised when they stop being nice.
(COMMENT)Why do you keep bringing up resolution 181? It needed a Security Counsel vote to make it binding and that never happened. And from that point on, it became an un-enforcable document.
(COMMENT)As for the resolution itself, it was not a fair solution for the arabs living in the area at the time. They owned 85% of the land (jews owned 7%), but the partition plan wanted to give over 50% of all of Palestine to the zionists.
That "Plan" was shot down and is no longer relevent.
(COMMENT)We're not talking about "religious" rights at all. Religion has nothing to do with this. We're not really talking about "civil" rights, either. We're talking about "inalienable" rights. You cannot move into an area and automatically have more rights than the people already living there.
(COMMENT)What about the policy of the zionists?
Don't we need to understand what their intentions were during the migration into Palestine?
(COMMENT)Because it has a lot to do with Palestinian attitudes towards Israeli's. Because it wasn't fair and should not have been enforced.
That is not what is now. Hamas leaders have said on more than one occasion, they're willing to accept a two-state solution, but Israel won't go for it.
Meshaals remarks came during an exclusive interview with the American Foreign Policy magazine, through which he stressed on Hamass rejection of the two-state solution and criticized the recent visit of U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry.
SOURCE: http://occupiedpalestine.wordpress.com/2013/05/16/meshaal-renews-rejection-of-a-two-state-solution/
They are hostile, because Israel has occupied their land for almost half a century and are still treating them like garbage.The Arab Palestinian has stated its case; having not denied it --- and still promotes it today. Once the world understands the scope and true nature of the Hostile Arab Palestinian, they will understand the need for containment; and that corrective action is not a denial of Humanitarian Rights or Civil Liberties, but the necessary action taken to quarantine a culture that has no other foundation than that built on violence. They are self-proclaimed "Jihadist" of the First Order! and Greatest Magnitude! - They neither challenge this nor deny it.
(COMMENT)Christ, Palestinian's can't even go fishing without getting shot at!
Nothing can justify terrorism ever. No grievance, no goal, no cause can excuse terrorist acts.
.............................................................................UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon
(COMMENT)I agree with that.
Do you excuse the jewish terrorist massacre at Deir Yassan?
(COMMENT)No one. Not a single country on the planet does. It's been that way for almost 50 years and it's not going to change.Who recognises Israel's 'ownership' of the West Bank or Gaza?
There was no such thing as an Arab Palestinian. The area was part of the Ottoman Empire for 800 years, and then under the control of the British the collapse of the Ottomans Turks.There has never been an Arab Palestine. Israel became Jewish Palestine and Jordan became Arab Palestine...As planned by league of nations and administered by those who controlled the land. Arabs had no control or ownership of the land for 800 years.
Muslims ruled Palestine for more than 1,200 years, 300+ years more than the Jews.
Between 1949 and 1967, the United States considered the West Bank to be Arab Palestine.
Non of the made up "interpretations" of said declarations say Israel has to get attacked by groups of Arab countries intending to destroy it, and then play nice if it wins in that war. And that goes for any country.So to recap Israelis indeed treating about 2 million Arabs with equality, and those who are upset are the ones that aren't Israelis, but Arabs who are paying for the consequence of joining with 5 Arab countries in attacking and trying to destroy Israel?
Now that would be a ridiculous assertion, that even if Israel gets attacked it still has get permission do what it wants for land it won in a defensive war. I bet the Arabs would have committed genocide on any Jew left in the land, had they been the victors.
Israelis cannot cite the Balfour Declaration and Palestine Mandate as justification and vindication for their settlement operations in the West Bank while at the same time disregarding the articles of those same agreemants that condition Jewish settlement in all of Palestine upon equal and fair treatment to the non-Jewish population.
They can't have their cake AND eat it too.
I hear ya!There is a slight of hand trick here.
You see, no one recognizes Israeli ownership, because Israel never claimed to own it and really doesn't want it.
