Israel to pay students to defend it online

[MHunterB]

The name "West Bank" is a also new invention for Arabs, just as the label "Palestinian" is. It was after 3000 years, in 1948 that invading Arabs changed correct name of the region, the name Judaea and Samaria of Ancient Israel, to this made up name "West Bank".

Judaea and Samaria was never the common name for the West Bank.

Its a political invention of Judeo-Fascists.

And of course you've got copious reliable scholarly sources for that - which you're going to link to or at least identify. You being the 'new guy' here and all, with no 'track record' .........

 

[MHunterB]

How could those $300B in royalties be used to make amends for Israel's Original Sin?
Right of Return or Reparations?

"This growing violence culminated in Israel's ruthless 1947-49 'War of Independence,' in which at least 750,000 Palestinian men, women, and children were expelled from their homes by numerically superior Israeli forces – half before any Arab armies joined the war.

"This massive humanitarian disaster is known as ‘The Catastrophe,’ al Nakba in Arabic.8

"Zionist forces committed 33 massacres and destroyed 531 Palestinian towns. Author Norman Finkelstein states: 'According to the former director of the Israeli army archives, "in almost every village occupied by us during the War... acts were committed which are defined as war crimes, such as murders, massacres, and rapes"...Uri Milstein, the authoritative Israeli military historian of the 1948 war, goes one step further, maintaining that ‘every skirmish ended in a massacre of Arabs.'"


So, Georgie - you think that Alison Weir's webstain is a reliable and accurate source of info?

It's amusing that a commie would chose to quote Milstein, given some of his other views on historical events: he wrote a book saying the Deir Yassin "massacre" never occurred, and has written that Russia planned to attack Germany in '41 Uri Milstein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[toastman]

The name "West Bank" is a also new invention for Arabs, just as the label "Palestinian" is. It was after 3000 years, in 1948 that invading Arabs changed correct name of the region, the name Judaea and Samaria of Ancient Israel, to this made up name "West Bank".

Judaea and Samaria was never the common name for the West Bank.

Its a political invention of Judeo-Fascists.

Saying what you just said is for Islamo-Fascists

 

[georgephillip]

How could those $300B in royalties be used to make amends for Israel's Original Sin?
Right of Return or Reparations?

"This growing violence culminated in Israel's ruthless 1947-49 'War of Independence,' in which at least 750,000 Palestinian men, women, and children were expelled from their homes by numerically superior Israeli forces – half before any Arab armies joined the war.

"This massive humanitarian disaster is known as ‘The Catastrophe,’ al Nakba in Arabic.8

"Zionist forces committed 33 massacres and destroyed 531 Palestinian towns. Author Norman Finkelstein states: 'According to the former director of the Israeli army archives, "in almost every village occupied by us during the War... acts were committed which are defined as war crimes, such as murders, massacres, and rapes"...Uri Milstein, the authoritative Israeli military historian of the 1948 war, goes one step further, maintaining that ‘every skirmish ended in a massacre of Arabs.'"


So, Georgie - you think that Alison Weir's webstain is a reliable and accurate source of info?

It's amusing that a commie would chose to quote Milstein, given some of his other views on historical events: he wrote a book saying the Deir Yassin "massacre" never occurred, and has written that Russia planned to attack Germany in '41 Uri Milstein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yeah, "Marg."
I think Uri and Alison are at least as reliable sources of information for events in Israel/Palestine as you are:
"After completing his service in the IDF in 1960, (Uri Milstein) studied economics, philosophy and political science at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. He wrote his PhD on religion and legislation in Israel.

"After the Six-Day War, he published War of the Paratroops, and at the beginning of 1973 he published a military history of the early days of Israeli statehood, In Blood And Fire Yehuda.

"In the 1980s, he taught military history at the IDF Command and Staff College. In 1989, Milstein published the first volume of his series on the War of Independence, in which he alleged flawed functioning of commanders who were considered heroes in Israel. In 1993, he published Crisis and Its Conclusion, criticizing the functioning of the IDF in the Yom Kippur War."
Uri Milstein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Hossfly]

Its disgusting and pathetic that Neo-Zionists feel they can't rely on the natural dispersion of truth to make their arguments. They actually have to recruit and pay people to spew their propaganda.

There are millions upon millions of English speaking Jews around the world, but Israel still has to PAY people to defend their views?

How very sad.

Indeed, openly admitting that they are recruiting and paying people to go into political discussion forums and spew Neo-Zionist and Judeo-Fascist propaganda, puts the integrity, honesty, and authenticity of ALL right-wing Zionists in these forums, into serious question.

Perhaps some NeoNazi/WhiteSupremacist/Islamofascist group can give some kind of stipend to Hoffstra since it is obvious that he is an anti-Semite. By the way, Hoffstra, even though you threw in an extra "f" to your screen name, are you trying to tell us that you went to Hofstra University on Long Island and actually had to mingle with so many Jewish students there? Oh, the horror of it!!! Let's face it; people like Hoffstra are a dime a dozen, just like the people you find on sites like Stormfront.

 

[toastman]

Its disgusting and pathetic that Neo-Zionists feel they can't rely on the natural dispersion of truth to make their arguments. They actually have to recruit and pay people to spew their propaganda.

There are millions upon millions of English speaking Jews around the world, but Israel still has to PAY people to defend their views?

How very sad.

Indeed, openly admitting that they are recruiting and paying people to go into political discussion forums and spew Neo-Zionist and Judeo-Fascist propaganda, puts the integrity, honesty, and authenticity of ALL right-wing Zionists in these forums, into serious question.

Perhaps some NeoNazi/WhiteSupremacist/Islamofascist group can give some kind of stipend to Hoffstra since it is obvious that he is an anti-Semite. By the way, Hoffstra, even though you threw in an extra "f" to your screen name, are you trying to tell us that you went to Hofstra University on Long Island and actually had to mingle with so many Jewish students there? Oh, the horror of it!!! Let's face it; people like Hoffstra are a dime a dozen, just like the people you find on sites like Stormfront.

The thing with him though is that people are getting ripped off on their dime

 

[Hoffstra]

Perhaps some NeoNazi/WhiteSupremacist/Islamofascist group can give some kind of stipend to Hoffstra since it is obvious that he is an anti-Semite. By the way, Hoffstra, even though you threw in an extra "f" to your screen name, are you trying to tell us that you went to Hofstra University on Long Island and actually had to mingle with so many Jewish students there? Oh, the horror of it!!! Let's face it; people like Hoffstra are a dime a dozen, just like the people you find on sites like Stormfront.

Accusing all who oppose right wing extremism of being anti-Semites is probably Rule #1 for paid agents of Hasbara.

 

[Hossfly]

Perhaps some NeoNazi/WhiteSupremacist/Islamofascist group can give some kind of stipend to Hoffstra since it is obvious that he is an anti-Semite. By the way, Hoffstra, even though you threw in an extra "f" to your screen name, are you trying to tell us that you went to Hofstra University on Long Island and actually had to mingle with so many Jewish students there? Oh, the horror of it!!! Let's face it; people like Hoffstra are a dime a dozen, just like the people you find on sites like Stormfront.

Accusing all who oppose right wing extremism of being anti-Semites is probably Rule #1 for paid agents of Hasbara.

So, tell us, Hoffstra, are you on any of the other forums here condemning what is happening in the rest of the Middle East plus Southeast Asia and Africa, or don't you care what is happening there and just are obsessed with Israel and the Jews and give those extremists who are operating in those different areas a pass? So tell us, oh great humanitarian, who is paying you to give a pass to those who are so busy murdering innocent people and desecrating and/or burning down their houses of worship

 

[RoccoR]

Hoffstra, et al,

I'm not exactly following your path.

Are you in support of the "right wing extremist?"
....................................OR....................................
Are you supporting Palestinian Covenant/Charter policy?
....................................AND....................................
And why would you be concerned with Israeli Public Diplomacy if you can explain it all away?​

Perhaps some NeoNazi/WhiteSupremacist/Islamofascist group can give some kind of stipend to Hoffstra since it is obvious that he is an anti-Semite. By the way, Hoffstra, even though you threw in an extra "f" to your screen name, are you trying to tell us that you went to Hofstra University on Long Island and actually had to mingle with so many Jewish students there? Oh, the horror of it!!! Let's face it; people like Hoffstra are a dime a dozen, just like the people you find on sites like Stormfront.

Accusing all who oppose right wing extremism of being anti-Semites is probably Rule #1 for paid agents of Hasbara.

(COMMENT)

Do you deny that HAMAS and FATAH follow the path of Jihad and unrestrained armed struggle as a matter of practiced policy?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Roudy]

Hoffstra, et al,

I'm not exactly following your path.

Are you in support of the "right wing extremist?"
....................................OR....................................
Are you supporting Palestinian Covenant/Charter policy?
....................................AND....................................
And why would you be concerned with Israeli Public Diplomacy if you can explain it all away?​

Perhaps some NeoNazi/WhiteSupremacist/Islamofascist group can give some kind of stipend to Hoffstra since it is obvious that he is an anti-Semite. By the way, Hoffstra, even though you threw in an extra "f" to your screen name, are you trying to tell us that you went to Hofstra University on Long Island and actually had to mingle with so many Jewish students there? Oh, the horror of it!!! Let's face it; people like Hoffstra are a dime a dozen, just like the people you find on sites like Stormfront.

Accusing all who oppose right wing extremism of being anti-Semites is probably Rule #1 for paid agents of Hasbara.

(COMMENT)

Do you deny that HAMAS and FATAH follow the path of Jihad and unrestrained armed struggle as a matter of practiced policy?

Most Respectfully,
R

Exactly. Hamas and Islamist groups are the mother of all "right wing extremists".

 

[P F Tinmore]

Hoffstra, et al,

Well, there is a certain amount of truth here.


(COMMENT)

For most researchers, the reason the US and other countries see the West Bank and Gaza Strip as the "State of Palestine," is because those areas were:

• Identified in Part II, Section A, of GA Resolution 181(II) as the Arab State.
• And the Declaration of Independence for Palestine (Annex III, A/43/827 S/20278 18 November 1988), attached conditions of international legitimacy to GA Resolution 181(II) that outline the Arab State (Palestine) and "sympathetic consideration should be given to its application for admission to membership in the United Nations."

As a general position, nearly everyone understood that customary law does not permit quasi-annexation by allowing its own civilian population into (by whatever mechanism) occupied territory for the purpose of establishing permanent residences. There has to be some special circumstances or overwhelming necessity, to justify the establishment of settlements. It was going to be an issue at some point and a matter of compensation and reparation.

(EPILOG SIDEBAR)

Israel may have struck-it rich. It has had several discoveries of natural gas in the Levant Basin in the last decade. About 30 of the 40 trillion cubic feet known now, of the gas discoveries to date are Israeli and could generate $300B in royalties on just the fractional portion of the findings that have been assessed; or more.

Most Respectfully,
R

How could those $300B in royalties be used to make amends for Israel's Original Sin?
Right of Return or Reparations?

"This growing violence culminated in Israel's ruthless 1947-49 'War of Independence,' in which at least 750,000 Palestinian men, women, and children were expelled from their homes by numerically superior Israeli forces – half before any Arab armies joined the war.

"This massive humanitarian disaster is known as ‘The Catastrophe,’ al Nakba in Arabic.8

"Zionist forces committed 33 massacres and destroyed 531 Palestinian towns. Author Norman Finkelstein states: 'According to the former director of the Israeli army archives, "in almost every village occupied by us during the War... acts were committed which are defined as war crimes, such as murders, massacres, and rapes"...Uri Milstein, the authoritative Israeli military historian of the 1948 war, goes one step further, maintaining that ‘every skirmish ended in a massacre of Arabs.'"

The Catastrophe - Al Nakba

To use an old expression--the Palestinians gave as good as they got...and then some.

Indeed, Israel's military has been pounding Palestinian civilians for 65 years and has not won yet.

Lame!

 

[toastman]

How could those $300B in royalties be used to make amends for Israel's Original Sin?
Right of Return or Reparations?

"This growing violence culminated in Israel's ruthless 1947-49 'War of Independence,' in which at least 750,000 Palestinian men, women, and children were expelled from their homes by numerically superior Israeli forces – half before any Arab armies joined the war.

"This massive humanitarian disaster is known as ‘The Catastrophe,’ al Nakba in Arabic.8

"Zionist forces committed 33 massacres and destroyed 531 Palestinian towns. Author Norman Finkelstein states: 'According to the former director of the Israeli army archives, "in almost every village occupied by us during the War... acts were committed which are defined as war crimes, such as murders, massacres, and rapes"...Uri Milstein, the authoritative Israeli military historian of the 1948 war, goes one step further, maintaining that ‘every skirmish ended in a massacre of Arabs.'"

The Catastrophe - Al Nakba

To use an old expression--the Palestinians gave as good as they got...and then some.

Indeed, Israel's military has been pounding Palestinian civilians for 65 years and has not won yet.

Lame!

SO tell us Tinnie, why does Israel bomb Gaza ??

 

[P F Tinmore]

To use an old expression--the Palestinians gave as good as they got...and then some.

Indeed, Israel's military has been pounding Palestinian civilians for 65 years and has not won yet.

Lame!

SO tell us Tinnie, why does Israel bomb Gaza ??

Armed robbery.

 

[toastman]

Indeed, Israel's military has been pounding Palestinian civilians for 65 years and has not won yet.

Lame!

SO tell us Tinnie, why does Israel bomb Gaza ??

Armed robbery.

Try again...

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

SO tell us Tinnie, why does Israel bomb Gaza ??

Armed robbery.

Try again...

Give him a multiple choice answer.

 

[toastman]

Great Idea Caroline.

Tinmore, why does Israel bomb Gaza, like you mentioned? :



a) To destroy Hamas infrastructure and rockets/rocket launchers in order to protect Israelis
b) To destroy Hamas infrastructure and rockets/rocket launchers in order to protect Israelis
c) To destroy Hamas infrastructure and rockets/rocket launchers in order to protect Israelis
d) All of the above
e) To destroy Hamas infrastructure and rockets/rocket launcher in order to protect Israelis

 

[P F Tinmore]

Great Idea Caroline.

Tinmore, why does Israel bomb Gaza, like you mentioned? :



a) To destroy Hamas infrastructure and rockets/rocket launchers in order to protect Israelis
b) To destroy Hamas infrastructure and rockets/rocket launchers in order to protect Israelis
c) To destroy Hamas infrastructure and rockets/rocket launchers in order to protect Israelis
d) All of the above

e)

 

[toastman]

Good choice Tinnie. I knew you'd come around

 

[Hoffstra]

Why does Israel have to pay people to defend them?

One would think their many loyal supporters would do it for free.

You have to be one stingy/cheap bastard to require money in order to stand up for one's principles, on the internet.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Why does Israel have to pay people to defend them?

One would think their many loyal supporters would do it for free.

You have to be one stingy/cheap bastard to require money in order to stand up for one's principles, on the internet.

Think about it. They need the best employees, they must be multilingual and highly educated and adept at negotiating the web. They need to be reliable with a good knowledge of the situation and know where to go for resources. It will be a highly professional set-up. About time too. Long long overdue.