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Republicans love taxes too, especially the regressive fee/sales/sin type shit, it's where all the states, even the red ones, went to fill their state level budget shortfalls. The very idea that republicans hate all taxes is false in the extreme. They just hate the taxes that the rich investor must pay, they have no problem shifting the burden down the income scale as far as possible.
How many Millionaires and Billionaires lose their grocery money by Casino Gambling? The R's - lol the moral majority - had no problem with the growth of casino gambling which has become epidemic in our country. A hidden tax to be sure, and one which impacts the working poor to the highest degree. How about the lottery, how many working men and women chase that 'dream'? How many Billionaires?
Even I don't believe you are so stupid as to believe this ^^^ post. Have you ever been in one of the Indian Casinos? Have you noticed the stature of the people who line up to buy lottery tickets? You know, I actually believe you are so stupid.
Believe what? I made no statement you buffoon. I asked you to clarify your absurd statement (as if you've ever made any other kind of statement).
You're position is that the working poor is so irresponsible and despicable, that they gamble what little money they have, and you feel the GOP is to blame for that.
Apparently, seeing your own words repeated to you have made you realize how stupid they are?
I wrote no such thing, these were my words:
"How many Millionaires and Billionaires lose their grocery money by Casino Gambling? The R's - lol the moral majority - had no problem with the growth of casino gambling which has become epidemic in our country. A hidden tax to be sure, and one which impacts the working poor to the highest degree. How about the lottery, how many working men and women chase that 'dream'? How many Billionaires?"
These words are yours:
"You're position is that the working poor is so irresponsible and despicable, that they gamble what little money they have, and you feel the GOP is to blame for that."
As I said, and with all honesty, you really are stupid. With your words you built a Straw Man. No where did I call the working poor "irresponsible and despicable"; those words are yours and a clear statement of how you feel about the working poor. Probative evidence that you are a bigot.
Even I don't believe you are so stupid as to believe this ^^^ post. Have you ever been in one of the Indian Casinos? Have you noticed the stature of the people who line up to buy lottery tickets? You know, I actually believe you are so stupid.
Believe what? I made no statement you buffoon. I asked you to clarify your absurd statement (as if you've ever made any other kind of statement).
You're position is that the working poor is so irresponsible and despicable, that they gamble what little money they have, and you feel the GOP is to blame for that.
Apparently, seeing your own words repeated to you have made you realize how stupid they are?
I wrote no such thing, these were my words:
"How many Millionaires and Billionaires lose their grocery money by Casino Gambling? The R's - lol the moral majority - had no problem with the growth of casino gambling which has become epidemic in our country. A hidden tax to be sure, and one which impacts the working poor to the highest degree. How about the lottery, how many working men and women chase that 'dream'? How many Billionaires?"
These words are yours:
"You're position is that the working poor is so irresponsible and despicable, that they gamble what little money they have, and you feel the GOP is to blame for that."
As I said, and with all honesty, you really are stupid. With your words you built a Straw Man. No where did I call the working poor "irresponsible and despicable"; those words are yours and a clear statement of how you feel about the working poor. Probative evidence that you are a bigot.
On this issue we might have found common ground with our democrat / liberal brothers and sisters.
We all agree we have spending problems.
Conservatives and some republicans believe we spend too much.
Liberals/Democrats believe we don't spend nearly enough.
Written by a classic, but classless partisan hack ^^^.
Spending is all about establishing priorities. The R's pretend tax breaks to the rich pay dividends which trickle down to the hoi polloi. We know that is bullshit, but bullshit repeated over and over and over stops stinking (at least to the senses of the naïve).
If we believe something meets the vision of the Founding Fathers as outlined in the Preamble to our Constitution, then we should be willing to pay the tax needed. If we believe the common defense includes protection from bacterial and viral infections, as well as from the guns of foreign invaders, than we need to pay the tax necessary for our protection; if we believe liberty is precious, then we must support it in all of its manifestations - freedom from hunger, from poverty, from oppression, and pay the tax necessary to secure its blessing to ourselves, our fellow citizens and to our posterity.
Your standard of living is higher than it would be if you had never heard of trickle down economics, yet you bitch because it worked.
Believe what? I made no statement you buffoon. I asked you to clarify your absurd statement (as if you've ever made any other kind of statement).
You're position is that the working poor is so irresponsible and despicable, that they gamble what little money they have, and you feel the GOP is to blame for that.
Apparently, seeing your own words repeated to you have made you realize how stupid they are?
I wrote no such thing, these were my words:
"How many Millionaires and Billionaires lose their grocery money by Casino Gambling? The R's - lol the moral majority - had no problem with the growth of casino gambling which has become epidemic in our country. A hidden tax to be sure, and one which impacts the working poor to the highest degree. How about the lottery, how many working men and women chase that 'dream'? How many Billionaires?"
These words are yours:
"You're position is that the working poor is so irresponsible and despicable, that they gamble what little money they have, and you feel the GOP is to blame for that."
As I said, and with all honesty, you really are stupid. With your words you built a Straw Man. No where did I call the working poor "irresponsible and despicable"; those words are yours and a clear statement of how you feel about the working poor. Probative evidence that you are a bigot.
Hey dumb-ass, there was no "straw man" (the lefts favorite excuse for why they've had their ass handed to them in a debate). I never claimed you called the poor who gamble "irresponsible and despicable". Those were my words. You're just pissed off because it's true.
What kind of asshole who is poor gambles?!? Worse yet, what kind of bigger asshole blames that kind of free-will idiocy on complete strangers who have nothing to do with it?
Is it really that they "love" taxes [MENTION=33716]occupied[/MENTION], or is it that they are trying desperately to prevent the collapse from the Dumbocrat spending.
And shifting those taxes to the slime consuming cigarettes and alcohol is a billion times better than punishing producers and job creators. The GOP has the most impossible juggling act in the world to maintain - prevent Dumbocrat spending from collapsing the U.S. (like they did in Detroit) while not taxing the economy into collapse. All in all, I'd say they do a jaw-dropping job under the circumstances.
Is it really that they "love" taxes [MENTION=33716]occupied[/MENTION], or is it that they are trying desperately to prevent the collapse from the Dumbocrat spending
And shifting those taxes to the slime consuming cigarettes and alcohol is a billion times better than punishing producers and job creators. The GOP has the most impossible juggling act in the world to maintain - prevent Dumbocrat spending from collapsing the U.S. (like they did in Detroit) while not taxing the economy into collapse. All in all, I'd say they do a jaw-dropping job under the circumstances.
You really are living in a reality of your own making if you think the Republicans are in a juggling act to stop spending by Democrats or even themselves. The Republican majority during the Bush administration doubled the national debt. The current Republican controlled House has added a few trillion more to it since taking control in 2011.
Written by a classic, but classless partisan hack ^^^.
Spending is all about establishing priorities. The R's pretend tax breaks to the rich pay dividends which trickle down to the hoi polloi. We know that is bullshit, but bullshit repeated over and over and over stops stinking (at least to the senses of the naïve).
If we believe something meets the vision of the Founding Fathers as outlined in the Preamble to our Constitution, then we should be willing to pay the tax needed. If we believe the common defense includes protection from bacterial and viral infections, as well as from the guns of foreign invaders, than we need to pay the tax necessary for our protection; if we believe liberty is precious, then we must support it in all of its manifestations - freedom from hunger, from poverty, from oppression, and pay the tax necessary to secure its blessing to ourselves, our fellow citizens and to our posterity.
Your standard of living is higher than it would be if you had never heard of trickle down economics, yet you bitch because it worked.
My standard of living is high because I went to college, worked hard and planned for my retirement. It had zero to do with Reagan and voodoo economics. In fact working in LE I saw how badly Reagan's economic policies harmed the poor, the working poor and Vietnam Vets. Yeah, the vets, many were homeless and on drugs in the Bay Area post Vietnam. Under the Reagan Administration, for the first time, vets were required to prove their ailment was service connected.
Many of those we ended up arresting and were put in jail - not treatment - were alcoholics or drug addicts and suffering PTSD. How does a 30 something who survived combat when many of his brothers did not, prove to the VA that his drinking or jones or nightmares were the result of having a fellow soldier die in his presence, maybe in his arms?
Not one of these taxes existed in 1835 our nation was the most prosperous in the world, had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world and only one parent had to work to support the family.
What happened? One word: liberalism
Interesting List of Taxes that exist today
Despite that obnoxiously long list of taxes, and despite revenues to the government being as high as they have ever been, it's still not enough for the Democrats. So now they have added these taxes:
Supporters of the deal are claiming this isnt a tax increasebut take a look at your airline receipt. The airline security charge is just one of the taxes youll see. According to Delta Airlines, theres also the Domestic Transportation Tax (7.5 percent), Travel Facilities Tax ($8.40), and U.S. International Transportation Tax ($17.20). These are all considered taxes.
And that sad part is, it has become so egregious, even the Dumbocrats are now ashamed of how much they are taxing and taking. So now they won't even call a spade a spade anymore - and taxes are being called "user fees"
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Not one of these taxes existed in 1835 our nation was the most prosperous in the world, had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world and only one parent had to work to support the family.
What happened? One word: liberalism
Interesting List of Taxes that exist today
Poodle, sweetie, the average life expectency in 1835 was 50 years. Farmers were frequently wiped out by hoardes of locusts or floods because waterways weren't controlled. Most people lived in tenaments or in slave conditions. Peopled didn't have clean water or safe food to eat or electricity. Children worked in factories and were frequently mauled in the workplace.
Me, I like roads and medicine and having running water and electricity and I don't mind paying my taxes to have them. I like that my food isn't going to kill me.
According to some despite being 17 trillion in debt we don't spend enough I won't begin to try and explain that logic but it's out there.
On this issue we might have found common ground with our democrat / liberal brothers and sisters.
We all agree we have spending problems.
Conservatives and some republicans believe we spend too much.
Liberals/Democrats believe we don't spend nearly enough.
Republicans love taxes too, especially the regressive fee/sales/sin type shit, it's where all the states, even the red ones, went to fill their state level budget shortfalls. The very idea that republicans hate all taxes is false in the extreme. They just hate the taxes that the rich investor must pay, they have no problem shifting the burden down the income scale as far as possible.
How many Millionaires and Billionaires lose their grocery money by Casino Gambling? The R's - lol the moral majority - had no problem with the growth of casino gambling which has become epidemic in our country. A hidden tax to be sure, and one which impacts the working poor to the highest degree. How about the lottery, how many working men and women chase that 'dream'? How many Billionaires?
According to some despite being 17 trillion in debt we don't spend enough I won't begin to try and explain that logic but it's out there.
It's about not taxing enough to pay for what you're spending.
On this issue we might have found common ground with our democrat / liberal brothers and sisters.
We all agree we have spending problems.
Conservatives and some republicans believe we spend too much.
Liberals/Democrats believe we don't spend nearly enough.
You're making comical generalizations. Name the liberals on this board that you know for certain want to spend more.
On this issue we might have found common ground with our democrat / liberal brothers and sisters.
We all agree we have spending problems.
Conservatives and some republicans believe we spend too much.
Liberals/Democrats believe we don't spend nearly enough.
You're making comical generalizations. Name the liberals on this board that you know for certain want to spend more.
thats easy-------everyone who supports obamacare.
According to some despite being 17 trillion in debt we don't spend enough I won't begin to try and explain that logic but it's out there.
It's about not taxing enough to pay for what you're spending.
