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You're making comical generalizations. Name the liberals on this board that you know for certain want to spend more.
thats easy-------everyone who supports obamacare.
You're an idiot. I want defense cuts that will more than offset obamacare spending. How many Republicans want less defense spending?
According to some despite being 17 trillion in debt we don't spend enough I won't begin to try and explain that logic but it's out there.
It's about not taxing enough to pay for what you're spending.
If you want continue spending this much to cover it you do of course realize you will have to tax everyone more not just the rich.
You do realize that spending your own money is NOT a tax?Even I don't believe you are so stupid as to believe this ^^^ post. Have you ever been in one of the Indian Casinos? Have you noticed the stature of the people who line up to buy lottery tickets? You know, I actually believe you are so stupid.
Believe what? I made no statement you buffoon. I asked you to clarify your absurd statement (as if you've ever made any other kind of statement).
You're position is that the working poor is so irresponsible and despicable, that they gamble what little money they have, and you feel the GOP is to blame for that.
Apparently, seeing your own words repeated to you have made you realize how stupid they are?
I wrote no such thing, these were my words:
"How many Millionaires and Billionaires lose their grocery money by Casino Gambling? The R's - lol the moral majority - had no problem with the growth of casino gambling which has become epidemic in our country. A hidden tax to be sure, and one which impacts the working poor to the highest degree. How about the lottery, how many working men and women chase that 'dream'? How many Billionaires?"
These words are yours:
"You're position is that the working poor is so irresponsible and despicable, that they gamble what little money they have, and you feel the GOP is to blame for that."
As I said, and with all honesty, you really are stupid. With your words you built a Straw Man. No where did I call the working poor "irresponsible and despicable"; those words are yours and a clear statement of how you feel about the working poor. Probative evidence that you are a bigot.
According to some despite being 17 trillion in debt we don't spend enough I won't begin to try and explain that logic but it's out there.
It's about not taxing enough to pay for what you're spending.
Is that they way you operate your personal budget? Spend whatever you want and then borrow more when the bills come in?
In order to cover the 1 trillion deficit this year every citizen would need to be taxed an additional 30K. Are you ready to step up and pay your 30K?
BTW, we could take 100% of the income of the top 5% and it would not come close to 1 trillion.
So get out your checkbook and write a 30K check to obama, do your part.
It's about not taxing enough to pay for what you're spending.
If you want continue spending this much to cover it you do of course realize you will have to tax everyone more not just the rich.
30K per year additional taxes from every person in the USA. I asked Ny carbonhead if he was ready to send in his check, but he ran rather than answer.
It's about not taxing enough to pay for what you're spending.
Is that they way you operate your personal budget? Spend whatever you want and then borrow more when the bills come in?
In order to cover the 1 trillion deficit this year every citizen would need to be taxed an additional 30K. Are you ready to step up and pay your 30K?
BTW, we could take 100% of the income of the top 5% and it would not come close to 1 trillion.
So get out your checkbook and write a 30K check to obama, do your part.
I have no long term debt. I'm paid up every month. Are you?
If you want continue spending this much to cover it you do of course realize you will have to tax everyone more not just the rich.
30K per year additional taxes from every person in the USA. I asked Ny carbonhead if he was ready to send in his check, but he ran rather than answer.
He wants $200,000 from "the rich" and he gets a free ride. After all, "they can afford it."
Is that they way you operate your personal budget? Spend whatever you want and then borrow more when the bills come in?
In order to cover the 1 trillion deficit this year every citizen would need to be taxed an additional 30K. Are you ready to step up and pay your 30K?
BTW, we could take 100% of the income of the top 5% and it would not come close to 1 trillion.
So get out your checkbook and write a 30K check to obama, do your part.
I have no long term debt. I'm paid up every month. Are you?
Yes, you are I are exercising fiscal responsibility, why shouldn't the government do what we do?
But lets go back. you want more revenue to balance spending, to offset the 1 trillion annual deficit the govt needs an additional 30K from every citizen, are you ready to send that in?
Now, if you have a family of 4 thats 120K, so ready? send it in.
30K per year additional taxes from every person in the USA. I asked Ny carbonhead if he was ready to send in his check, but he ran rather than answer.
He wants $200,000 from "the rich" and he gets a free ride. After all, "they can afford it."
actually there are not enough of them, even if they were taxed at 100%.
According to some despite being 17 trillion in debt we don't spend enough I won't begin to try and explain that logic but it's out there.
It's about not taxing enough to pay for what you're spending.
If you want continue spending this much to cover it you do of course realize you will have to tax everyone more not just the rich.
It's about not taxing enough to pay for what you're spending.
If you want continue spending this much to cover it you do of course realize you will have to tax everyone more not just the rich.
To pay off the Vietnam war debt, we imposed a 10% surcharge on federal income taxes. And it worked. No chance Congress would ever do anything that sensible again.
Is that they way you operate your personal budget? Spend whatever you want and then borrow more when the bills come in?
In order to cover the 1 trillion deficit this year every citizen would need to be taxed an additional 30K. Are you ready to step up and pay your 30K?
BTW, we could take 100% of the income of the top 5% and it would not come close to 1 trillion.
So get out your checkbook and write a 30K check to obama, do your part.
I have no long term debt. I'm paid up every month. Are you?
Yes, you are I are exercising fiscal responsibility, why shouldn't the government do what we do?
But lets go back. you want more revenue to balance spending, to offset the 1 trillion annual deficit the govt needs an additional 30K from every citizen, are you ready to send that in?
Now, if you have a family of 4 thats 120K, so ready? send it in.
It's about not taxing enough to pay for what you're spending.
If you want continue spending this much to cover it you do of course realize you will have to tax everyone more not just the rich.
To pay off the Vietnam war debt, we imposed a 10% surcharge on federal income taxes. And it worked. No chance Congress would ever do anything that sensible again.
I have no long term debt. I'm paid up every month. Are you?
Yes, you are I are exercising fiscal responsibility, why shouldn't the government do what we do?
But lets go back. you want more revenue to balance spending, to offset the 1 trillion annual deficit the govt needs an additional 30K from every citizen, are you ready to send that in?
Now, if you have a family of 4 thats 120K, so ready? send it in.
Then your alternative must be to cut the budget by 1/3rd.
Why are you talking in absurdities?
If you want continue spending this much to cover it you do of course realize you will have to tax everyone more not just the rich.
To pay off the Vietnam war debt, we imposed a 10% surcharge on federal income taxes. And it worked. No chance Congress would ever do anything that sensible again.
I don't know the exact financial price of the Vietnam war but I'm pretty confident we now owe a hell of a lot more than it cost and it would require a whole lot more than 10 percent surcharge.
Republicans love taxes too, especially the regressive fee/sales/sin type shit, it's where all the states, even the red ones, went to fill their state level budget shortfalls. The very idea that republicans hate all taxes is false in the extreme. They just hate the taxes that the rich investor must pay, they have no problem shifting the burden down the income scale as far as possible.
Is it really that they "love" taxes [MENTION=33716]occupied[/MENTION], or is it that they are trying desperately to prevent the collapse from the Dumbocrat spending.
And shifting those taxes to the slime consuming cigarettes and alcohol is a billion times better than punishing producers and job creators. The GOP has the most impossible juggling act in the world to maintain - prevent Dumbocrat spending from collapsing the U.S. (like they did in Detroit) while not taxing the economy into collapse. All in all, I'd say they do a jaw-dropping job under the circumstances.
Yes, you are I are exercising fiscal responsibility, why shouldn't the government do what we do?
But lets go back. you want more revenue to balance spending, to offset the 1 trillion annual deficit the govt needs an additional 30K from every citizen, are you ready to send that in?
Now, if you have a family of 4 thats 120K, so ready? send it in.
Then your alternative must be to cut the budget by 1/3rd.
Why are you talking in absurdities?
YOU said that you wanted to raise taxes to cover expenditures. I merely gave you the math neccessary to make that happen, an additional 30K from every person in the country.
But, I am fine with an accross the board cut to all government programs of 1/3, are you? All of them, no exceptions. Congressional salaries and benefits, food stamps, DOD, HUD, DHS, PP, DOE, congressional staffs, foreign aid, farm subsidies, SS, medicare, medicaid, obamacare, EIC----everything, cut by 1/3 to balance the budget. are you libs ready to put up or shut up?
Republicans love taxes too, especially the regressive fee/sales/sin type shit, it's where all the states, even the red ones, went to fill their state level budget shortfalls. The very idea that republicans hate all taxes is false in the extreme. They just hate the taxes that the rich investor must pay, they have no problem shifting the burden down the income scale as far as possible.
Is it really that they "love" taxes [MENTION=33716]occupied[/MENTION], or is it that they are trying desperately to prevent the collapse from the Dumbocrat spending
And shifting those taxes to the slime consuming cigarettes and alcohol is a billion times better than punishing producers and job creators. The GOP has the most impossible juggling act in the world to maintain - prevent Dumbocrat spending from collapsing the U.S. (like they did in Detroit) while not taxing the economy into collapse. All in all, I'd say they do a jaw-dropping job under the circumstances.
So I can move to a republican state, county, city and will pay lower taxes? Funny, I live in one right now and taxes have gone up since I moved here 12 years ago, what happened? Same with the time I spent(15 years) in GOP held Rogers/Benton county Arkansas. In fact I moved from that state after Gov. Huckabee raised the hell out of state taxes when he was re-elected, real estate taxes increase 100% from 1986-2001.
Then your alternative must be to cut the budget by 1/3rd.
Why are you talking in absurdities?
YOU said that you wanted to raise taxes to cover expenditures. I merely gave you the math neccessary to make that happen, an additional 30K from every person in the country.
But, I am fine with an accross the board cut to all government programs of 1/3, are you? All of them, no exceptions. Congressional salaries and benefits, food stamps, DOD, HUD, DHS, PP, DOE, congressional staffs, foreign aid, farm subsidies, SS, medicare, medicaid, obamacare, EIC----everything, cut by 1/3 to balance the budget. are you libs ready to put up or shut up?
Any day.
