It really is baffling to me republicans still think the wall is a good idea

[pismoe]

Right, 10's of millions of these poor welfare bound illegals have already poured across our southern border and we should do nothing? Another 300 pounds of Meth intercepted at the border this week. More American citizens raped and killed by illegals this week. No wall is needed? You libs can't win this one.

So exportation of Hispanics is your real goal, and you see a wall as just a step toward that goal?

^^^ race card fail.

Yet you didn't answer the question. What is your plan for those already here?

---------------------------- PROBABLY allowed to stay though i hope not . Deport them ALL Bulldog .

 

[Indeependent]

Of course, granted, the idea has always been baffling to me but republicans seem to have this fantasy now that the wall will solve our most pressing issues somehow.

What republicans are too dense to understand is that the left doesn’t like wall idea because we want open borders, it’s because it’s a stupid idea that an 8th grader would come up with. Just think about this critically for a moment. If the wall is such a genius idea to curb illegal immigration, why in the fuck didn’t any republican politician before Trump entertain such a simple idea? Sure repubs have proposed building some kind of barrier on certain stretches of the border, but none of them ever suggested that the entire border would be sealed off and it was the best immigration policy. Don’t republican voters ever think about this most basic of logic?

Okay but let’s pretend repubs are right about the idea even though they really aren’t. Let’s pretend the wall magically stopped the flow of illegal Latino immigrants because they were all too lazy to tunnel under it or climb over I guess.

Then what? The wall is built and illegal immigration is stopped. What is supposed to happen after that? Why would this one issue be the cure-all to the economy? The overall fraction of illegal immigrants coming from Mexico out of the US population is pretty small. Why would this suddenly boost wages, GDP, and revenue?

Now let’s pretend republicans had their ultimate wet dream fulfilled and all undocumented immigrants in this country were deported as well. You might see this as a positive by believing more legal citizens would get jobs, but why would that happen? The unemployment rate is under 4%. Getting rid of illegal immigrants wouldn’t somehow make the unemployment rate 0%.

Moreover, DACA citizens pay taxes. If we booted them all, revenue would drop. You know what would drop much lower if we booted all illegals? Consumer spending. DACA or not, any immigrant living here spends money on the economy. We are talking about, what, 20 million people of all nationalities? All of those people spend money on American businesses regardless of whether or not their income is legitimate. Im not highlighting this point to suggest that we should allow illegal immigrants into this country. It just doesn’t make sense to have stricter border policy just because illegal immigration still happens. A fucking wall won’t do jack shit to significantly reduce it. The border policies we have in place already are fine even if they aren’t perfect and even achieving perfection would barely make a difference anyway. Even House Democrats don’t want to make immigration policy more relaxed given that the bipartisan solution to fund the government makes no changes to border policy of the last two years.

Trump’s defiant attitude about the wall in the meeting with Pelosi and Schumer was purely for political points. He is so damn insecure that he tries to act tough just so his supporters watching the exchange would go ape shit seeing him stick it to the democrats. It’s such non sense. Trump wants the wall simply because it is a reflection of how his supporters see him. He expects us all to think he is tough when really it’s painfully obvious that he is a whiny little bitch putting up a front.

Both parties want open borders and cheap labor so stop the bullshit with the Rs.

 

[pismoe]

Right, 10's of millions of these poor welfare bound illegals have already poured across our southern border and we should do nothing? Another 300 pounds of Meth intercepted at the border this week. More American citizens raped and killed by illegals this week. No wall is needed? You libs can't win this one.

So exportation of Hispanics is your real goal, and you see a wall as just a step toward that goal?

^^^ race card fail.

Yet you didn't answer the question. What is your plan for those already here?

---------------------------------------- DEPORT , But why do you care , are YOU an illegal living in the USA Bulldog ??

 

[deanrd]

It us really baffling to me that the filthy Democrats think of every excuse possible to not secure the border.

They want to import the Illegals to do the job that real Americans don't want to do - vote Democrat.

Melania being married to Trump is proof that there are some jobs no American wants to do.

You don't get laid much, do you?

Don’t attack the messenger. Attack the message............if you can.

 

[deanrd]

It us really baffling to me that the filthy Democrats think of every excuse possible to not secure the border.

They want to import the Illegals to do the job that real Americans don't want to do - vote Democrat.

It’s even more baffling to me that Republicans could believe something so demonstrably stupid. Obama was called the exporter in chief. Why would you do that if you believe in open borders?

Short answer you wouldn’t.

Which proves that your kind are so delusional it’s bizarre. It’s a wonder you even function during the day.

 

[easyt65]

Yet you didn't answer the question. What is your plan for those already here?

For years Liberals lied over and over about how it would cost the US TONS of money to get rid of the illegals in this country.

Arizona proved single-handedly that this was a LIE!

Arizona created its own Immigration Laws, based on those of the Federal Government, and declared they had every intention of strictly enforcing them as soon as the legislation passed into law.

Just the news of the new law(s) and Arizona's declaration that it would strictly enforce them was enough to send a massive wave of illegals out of Arizona and into neighboring states. The mass Exodus did not cost Arizona a dime!

The numbers of illegals leaving for surrounding states was so great that some of these states banned together to SUE ARIZONA to stop them from passing THEIR own law and preventing them from enforcing THEIR own state law which was driving illegals out of Arizona and into their states.

The Obama administration - that was doing nothing to stop illegal immigration, that was actually helping illegals come into the country and dumping them all over the US without letting local and state agencies know they were coming, that was sticking local / state governments with the cost of policing / medical care - even sued Arizona to stop them.

BOTTOM LINE: JUST THE DECLARATION THAT ARIZONA WOULD IMMEDIATELY PASS AND STRONGLY ENFORCE ITS OWN IMMIGRATION LAW WAS ENOUGH TO DRIVE ILLEGALS TO FLEE / LEAVE ON THEIR OWN...AT NO COST TO ARIZONA.

All the US has to do is declare that they will IMMEDIATELY begin to STRICTLY enforce ALL existing US Immigration Law - to include HAMMERING businesses found to be violating federal law, and we would see a mass exodus the like we saw in Arizona.

NO JOBS = NO REASON / ABILITY TO STAY

Social Programs / BENEFITS ONLY For Americans or those in this country LEGALLY = NO REASON / ABILITY to stay

 

[BULLDOG]

Bigotry definitely plays a role in it, but they are so simple minded that they have let Trump delude them into thinking the wall is the most pressing issue and nothing else matters until it is built.

Where do you think the vast majority of hard drugs and illegal handguns that are smuggled into the US come from after they are smuggled into Mexico by the container full while the Mexican authorities look the other way.
Why do Nancy and Maxime and Chuck and Hillary and Bonobo live in gated AKA walled off communities?
Fucking wake up!

The vast majority isn't carried on foot across the desert.

--------------------------------------------- yeah , probably correct but some drugs are carried on foot across the Border . Let me get you some info if i can Bulldog . [chuckle]

Some drugs are carried on foot into Willie Nelson concerts too. Big deal.

--------------------------- simply showing that drugs are smuggled into the USA on FOOT by 'mexican' drug mules and the drugs hurt Americans . The Trump Wall will mostly STOP that traffic Bulldog .

No reason to believe the minute reduction in drugs would be worth the massive cost; financially, and otherwise, that a wall would cost. Many more cost effective ways to do that.

 

[BULLDOG]

Right, 10's of millions of these poor welfare bound illegals have already poured across our southern border and we should do nothing? Another 300 pounds of Meth intercepted at the border this week. More American citizens raped and killed by illegals this week. No wall is needed? You libs can't win this one.

So exportation of Hispanics is your real goal, and you see a wall as just a step toward that goal?

^^^ race card fail.

Yet you didn't answer the question. What is your plan for those already here?

---------------------------- PROBABLY allowed to stay though i hope not . Deport them ALL Bulldog .

So why not admit to your real goal instead of all the whining about a wall?

 

[Meathead]

It us really baffling to me that the filthy Democrats think of every excuse possible to not secure the border.

They want to import the Illegals to do the job that real Americans don't want to do - vote Democrat.

It’s even more baffling to me that Republicans could believe something so demonstrably stupid. Obama was called the exporter in chief. Why would you do that if you believe in open borders?

Short answer you wouldn’t.

Which proves that your kind are so delusional it’s bizarre. It’s a wonder you even function during the day.

Obama, "the exporter in chief"?!

Good Lord!

 

[BULLDOG]

Right, 10's of millions of these poor welfare bound illegals have already poured across our southern border and we should do nothing? Another 300 pounds of Meth intercepted at the border this week. More American citizens raped and killed by illegals this week. No wall is needed? You libs can't win this one.

So exportation of Hispanics is your real goal, and you see a wall as just a step toward that goal?

^^^ race card fail.

Yet you didn't answer the question. What is your plan for those already here?

---------------------------------------- DEPORT , But why do you care , are YOU an illegal living in the USA Bulldog ??

I care because I care about what America does, and always has stood for. Not the hateful crap Trump is pushing.

 

[beautress]

The op sez: "Of course, granted, the idea has always been baffling to me but republicans seem to have this fantasy now that the wall will solve our most pressing issues somehow."

It already has solved one of the problems. The Mexicans in charge of Mexico are now so pissed off they are actually realizing they havta take care of their own people. The former pisanos will now have to be educated, taken under the wing of the Mexican government, fed, clothed, housed, and educated right along with the best of them.

I give another blue ribbon to President Trump for pissing off the irresponsible neighbors in Mexico into action to take care of their own people!

And there's not a damn thing you leftist lockstep lobotomized lunatics can do about it.​

 

[pismoe]

Right, 10's of millions of these poor welfare bound illegals have already poured across our southern border and we should do nothing? Another 300 pounds of Meth intercepted at the border this week. More American citizens raped and killed by illegals this week. No wall is needed? You libs can't win this one.

So exportation of Hispanics is your real goal, and you see a wall as just a step toward that goal?

^^^ race card fail.

Yet you didn't answer the question. What is your plan for those already here?

---------------------------------------- DEPORT , But why do you care , are YOU an illegal living in the USA Bulldog ??

I care because I care about what America does, and always has stood for. Not the hateful crap Trump is pushing.

---------------------------------- Thank You for reply --- Trump is HOPEFULLY restoring USA Rule of LAW . My problem with TRUMP is that he still tolerates or approves of immigration but hey , he is doing halfway good work since he was elected Bulldog . [Trump is still much better than any 'dem' or the majority of 'rino - repubs and bush familia] Bulldog .

 

[BULLDOG]

Yet you didn't answer the question. What is your plan for those already here?

For years Liberals lied over and over about how it would cost the US TONS of money to get rid of the illegals in this country.

Arizona proved single-handedly that this was a LIE!

Arizona created its own Immigration Laws, based on those of the Federal Government, and declared they had every intention of strictly enforcing them as soon as the legislation passed into law.

Just the news of the new law(s) and Arizona's declaration that it would strictly enforce them was enough to send a massive wave of illegals out of Arizona and into neighboring states. The mass Exodus did not cost Arizona a dime!

The numbers of illegals leaving for surrounding states was so great that some of these states banned together to SUE ARIZONA to stop them from passing THEIR own law and preventing them from enforcing THEIR own state law which was driving illegals out of Arizona and into their states.

The Obama administration - that was doing nothing to stop illegal immigration, that was actually helping illegals come into the country and dumping them all over the US without letting local and state agencies know they were coming, that was sticking local / state governments with the cost of policing / medical care - even sued Arizona to stop them.

BOTTOM LINE: JUST THE DECLARATION THAT ARIZONA WOULD IMMEDIATELY PASS AND STRONGLY ENFORCE ITS OWN IMMIGRATION LAW WAS ENOUGH TO DRIVE ILLEGALS TO FLEE / LEAVE ON THEIR OWN...AT NO COST TO ARIZONA.

All the US has to do is declare that they will IMMEDIATELY begin to STRICTLY enforce ALL existing US Immigration Law - to include HAMMERING businesses found to be violating federal law, and we would see a mass exodus the like we saw in Arizona.

NO JOBS = NO REASON / ABILITY TO STAY

Social Programs / BENEFITS ONLY For Americans or those in this country LEGALLY = NO REASON / ABILITY to stay

With laws like that, and the fact that illegal immigration has dropped 82% since 2000, how do you think you can justify a 5 billion dollar wall?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

They're taught to believe that the wall is the only answer. They're taught to believe that "drill baby drill" is the only answer. They're taught to believe that constantly lowering taxes is the only answer. They're taught to believe that attacking and insulting the media is the only answer. Nuance is frowned upon by that party right now. Keep it simple enough to fit in between commercial breaks.

I think that is a better answer than the Democrat plan, which is to rob the people through taxation, kill unborn and born babies, and allow illegal criminals into our lands so innocent women can be raped and killed by them. Are you for the Democrat plan?

Fortunately, my world is not like yours. I can think for myself. It's not just "this" or "that".

My plan is in the fourth line of my sig. You won't understand it.
.

Then stop insulting US who want to save this country from the libtardos and Spineless moderates who voted for the 1/2 white faggot who almost Fundamentally Transformed this country into a 3rd world shithole.

Wow.

As predicted.
.

Wow, such an asshole.

 

[Votto]

The mind of a Dim, they will abort and throw away their own flesh and blood cuz they can't afford them, but then turn right around welcome in foreigners to take their jobs and give them their tax money because they have brown skin and not evil like white skinned Americans.

 

[pismoe]

Yet you didn't answer the question. What is your plan for those already here?

For years Liberals lied over and over about how it would cost the US TONS of money to get rid of the illegals in this country.

Arizona proved single-handedly that this was a LIE!

Arizona created its own Immigration Laws, based on those of the Federal Government, and declared they had every intention of strictly enforcing them as soon as the legislation passed into law.

Just the news of the new law(s) and Arizona's declaration that it would strictly enforce them was enough to send a massive wave of illegals out of Arizona and into neighboring states. The mass Exodus did not cost Arizona a dime!

The numbers of illegals leaving for surrounding states was so great that some of these states banned together to SUE ARIZONA to stop them from passing THEIR own law and preventing them from enforcing THEIR own state law which was driving illegals out of Arizona and into their states.

The Obama administration - that was doing nothing to stop illegal immigration, that was actually helping illegals come into the country and dumping them all over the US without letting local and state agencies know they were coming, that was sticking local / state governments with the cost of policing / medical care - even sued Arizona to stop them.

BOTTOM LINE: JUST THE DECLARATION THAT ARIZONA WOULD IMMEDIATELY PASS AND STRONGLY ENFORCE ITS OWN IMMIGRATION LAW WAS ENOUGH TO DRIVE ILLEGALS TO FLEE / LEAVE ON THEIR OWN...AT NO COST TO ARIZONA.

All the US has to do is declare that they will IMMEDIATELY begin to STRICTLY enforce ALL existing US Immigration Law - to include HAMMERING businesses found to be violating federal law, and we would see a mass exodus the like we saw in Arizona.

NO JOBS = NO REASON / ABILITY TO STAY

Social Programs / BENEFITS ONLY For Americans or those in this country LEGALLY = NO REASON / ABILITY to stay

With laws like that, and the fact that illegal immigration has dropped 82% since 2000, how do you think you can justify a 5 billion dollar wall?

---------------------------------------------- building for the Future , there are lots of starving ' venezualans' that may need to be REPELLED in the Future plus we can never know when other Third Worlders will get antsy and decide to explore and travel Bulldog .

 

[pismoe]

plus i don't trust the / YOUR Bogus numbers and claims Bulldog .

 

[protectionist]

Well, do you have a goal for those already here?

Yeah. A continuation of their record low unemployment (4.7%). And as long as Trump remains POTUS, I suspect it will continue.

Hispanic unemployment at all-time low under Trump

 

[protectionist]

When you have a president who says he wants to take away the citizenship of people born in this country then I don’t understand why anyone would think it’s an idiotic statement.

I say the same thing Trump says. Why shouldn't anchor babies have their citizenship taken away ? They never should have got it in the first place.

 

[protectionist]

It’s not baffling when one considers the fact that those who support a ‘wall’ are frightened, hateful bigots.

So you're calling Obama, Schumer, and Bill & Hillary Clinton "frightened, hateful bigots" ? They have all spoken out in favor of the wall.

democrats calling for building the wall - Bing video