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You are among the first to scream about due process, unless it comes to people you'd like to see punished. It's very clear why the law can't red flag people just because the police have "a pretty good idea" they are gang members.
It's a horrible gang. They are feral dregs of society and I'd like to see them stopped, too. But you have to follow the law.
Fair enough, but the proposed "red flag" laws that the Dems are advocating would allow the confiscation of weapons just because a friend, relative, doctor or nosy neighbor "has a pretty good idea" they are dangerous.
I think that if you are going to have such a red flag law, the police are more experts than neighbors, no?
A court decides. How stupid are you people?
A court decides and a crooked cop, D.A. and Judge decide you are dangerous because your neighbor pays them off to say you are is what will happen...
Lists are for future abuses and if you were for the No-Fly list and now against the Gang Banger list then it tell me you are a partisan hack just going with what MSM tell you to believe...
So now we will have no courts. Great. No law enforcement, no courts.You're sad.EVIDENCE has to be supplied to the judge BEFORE an order is signed. You can't just walk in to court and get a judge to sign a temporary order without some EVIDENCE.You are among the first to scream about due process, unless it comes to people you'd like to see punished. It's very clear why the law can't red flag people just because the police have "a pretty good idea" they are gang members.
It's a horrible gang. They are feral dregs of society and I'd like to see them stopped, too. But you have to follow the law.
Fair enough, but the proposed "red flag" laws that the Dems are advocating would allow the confiscation of weapons just because a friend, relative, doctor or nosy neighbor "has a pretty good idea" they are dangerous.
I think that if you are going to have such a red flag law, the police are more experts than neighbors, no?
Hahahaha!
That is so cute!
Wow!!
Really that was HILARIOUS!!!
You are so naive to think that way!!!!
Judges have a list of things to consider. I've posted it before and I'm not in here to get into another argument on red flag laws. This is about whether on a cop's "pretty much knowing" if someone is in a gang (with no evidence and no evidence of the person committing any crimes), his guns should be taken away.
Old Lady cops, and the D.A. fabricate evidence daily against people and I can provide so many incidents that you will cry about how sad I am!
Your blind faith in the justice system is the sad part if you think any law will prevent crimes or murders but what is even more sad is to believe our justice system is not corrupt...
You are among the first to scream about due process, unless it comes to people you'd like to see punished. It's very clear why the law can't red flag people just because the police have "a pretty good idea" they are gang members.
It's a horrible gang. They are feral dregs of society and I'd like to see them stopped, too. But you have to follow the law.
Fair enough, but the proposed "red flag" laws that the Dems are advocating would allow the confiscation of weapons just because a friend, relative, doctor or nosy neighbor "has a pretty good idea" they are dangerous.
I think that if you are going to have such a red flag law, the police are more experts than neighbors, no?
A court decides. How stupid are you people?
A court decides and a crooked cop, D.A. and Judge decide you are dangerous because your neighbor pays them off to say you are is what will happen...
Lists are for future abuses and if you were for the No-Fly list and now against the Gang Banger list then it tell me you are a partisan hack just going with what MSM tell you to believe...
Yep. like that is really going to happen. How ridiculous.
If that were the case, they frame you with a traffic stop & "finding" drugs in your car.
The Red Flag law is a good idea. They just need to get the wording right to protect yet make it feasible for crazy assed people not to own guns.
Explain to us what you’re talking about.
Did you read the OP or are you just trolling?
Everyone knows you're a Progressive Poster that trolls, so discuss the material of the OP like 2guy is pointing to you.
I discussed the title and demonstrated the well known fact that Trump supporters commit violence at an alarming rate and are defended after the fact.
The OP is not about your delusional thought about anyone that disagree with your opinion on life but about Democrats not passing a red flag bill because you would also focus on gang members.
So seeing you are refusing to discuss this by trying to change the subject show the board you are trolling as usual...
Now next you will proclaim the NRA is the biggest terrorist organization in the world and anyone that vote GOP are violent people that should be disarmed while still ignoring the content of the Op...
Just pointing out that Trump supporters are predisposed to violence which is a proven fact. There are certainly violent democrats as well.
Dems see it as a flaw. Republicans see it as a feature.
and yet again you fail to name just one,,,
So now we will have no courts. Great. No law enforcement, no courts.You're sad.EVIDENCE has to be supplied to the judge BEFORE an order is signed. You can't just walk in to court and get a judge to sign a temporary order without some EVIDENCE.Fair enough, but the proposed "red flag" laws that the Dems are advocating would allow the confiscation of weapons just because a friend, relative, doctor or nosy neighbor "has a pretty good idea" they are dangerous.
I think that if you are going to have such a red flag law, the police are more experts than neighbors, no?
Hahahaha!
That is so cute!
Wow!!
Really that was HILARIOUS!!!
You are so naive to think that way!!!!
Judges have a list of things to consider. I've posted it before and I'm not in here to get into another argument on red flag laws. This is about whether on a cop's "pretty much knowing" if someone is in a gang (with no evidence and no evidence of the person committing any crimes), his guns should be taken away.
Old Lady cops, and the D.A. fabricate evidence daily against people and I can provide so many incidents that you will cry about how sad I am!
Your blind faith in the justice system is the sad part if you think any law will prevent crimes or murders but what is even more sad is to believe our justice system is not corrupt...
Explain to us what you’re talking about.
Did you read the OP or are you just trolling?
Everyone knows you're a Progressive Poster that trolls, so discuss the material of the OP like 2guy is pointing to you.
I discussed the title and demonstrated the well known fact that Trump supporters commit violence at an alarming rate and are defended after the fact.
The OP is not about your delusional thought about anyone that disagree with your opinion on life but about Democrats not passing a red flag bill because you would also focus on gang members.
So seeing you are refusing to discuss this by trying to change the subject show the board you are trolling as usual...
Now next you will proclaim the NRA is the biggest terrorist organization in the world and anyone that vote GOP are violent people that should be disarmed while still ignoring the content of the Op...
Just pointing out that Trump supporters are predisposed to violence which is a proven fact. There are certainly violent democrats as well.
Dems see it as a flaw. Republicans see it as a feature.
Well let me say this before 2015 Trump was a supporter of the Democratic Party, and my bet you will deny what I just wrote but it is true.
Trump is not your typical Republican and to pretend he is, well of course you will claim he is but he is not!
As for his base you focus on the Neo-Nazi and KKK members that mostly do not vote and when they do it is not for a guy that has a daughter that is married to a Jewish man and worships Israel Friendship.
So please Candy try to peddle your nonsense to the weak minded poster because that crap does not work on me!
Did you read the OP or are you just trolling?
Everyone knows you're a Progressive Poster that trolls, so discuss the material of the OP like 2guy is pointing to you.
I discussed the title and demonstrated the well known fact that Trump supporters commit violence at an alarming rate and are defended after the fact.
The OP is not about your delusional thought about anyone that disagree with your opinion on life but about Democrats not passing a red flag bill because you would also focus on gang members.
So seeing you are refusing to discuss this by trying to change the subject show the board you are trolling as usual...
Now next you will proclaim the NRA is the biggest terrorist organization in the world and anyone that vote GOP are violent people that should be disarmed while still ignoring the content of the Op...
Just pointing out that Trump supporters are predisposed to violence which is a proven fact. There are certainly violent democrats as well.
Dems see it as a flaw. Republicans see it as a feature.
and yet again you fail to name just one,,,
Mr fields for one.
I discussed the title and demonstrated the well known fact that Trump supporters commit violence at an alarming rate and are defended after the fact.
The OP is not about your delusional thought about anyone that disagree with your opinion on life but about Democrats not passing a red flag bill because you would also focus on gang members.
So seeing you are refusing to discuss this by trying to change the subject show the board you are trolling as usual...
Now next you will proclaim the NRA is the biggest terrorist organization in the world and anyone that vote GOP are violent people that should be disarmed while still ignoring the content of the Op...
Just pointing out that Trump supporters are predisposed to violence which is a proven fact. There are certainly violent democrats as well.
Dems see it as a flaw. Republicans see it as a feature.
and yet again you fail to name just one,,,
Mr fields for one.
James Alex Fields? The young man who CNN baited to come out of his mum's basement by promising that an important event was happening in Charlottesville? Fields didn't use a firearm for his crime, he used an automobile.
The OP is not about your delusional thought about anyone that disagree with your opinion on life but about Democrats not passing a red flag bill because you would also focus on gang members.
So seeing you are refusing to discuss this by trying to change the subject show the board you are trolling as usual...
Now next you will proclaim the NRA is the biggest terrorist organization in the world and anyone that vote GOP are violent people that should be disarmed while still ignoring the content of the Op...
Just pointing out that Trump supporters are predisposed to violence which is a proven fact. There are certainly violent democrats as well.
Dems see it as a flaw. Republicans see it as a feature.
and yet again you fail to name just one,,,
Mr fields for one.
James Alex Fields? The young man who CNN baited to come out of his mum's basement by promising that an important event was happening in Charlottesville? Fields didn't use a firearm for his crime, he used an automobile.
Yeah right...CNN forced him to drive across 7 states.
Again, start using steroids to elevate your mind to weakness-strength then tell us how CNN made one of your blob’s very fine people do what he did.
Thanks for the chuckle
Did you read the OP or are you just trolling?
Everyone knows you're a Progressive Poster that trolls, so discuss the material of the OP like 2guy is pointing to you.
I discussed the title and demonstrated the well known fact that Trump supporters commit violence at an alarming rate and are defended after the fact.
The OP is not about your delusional thought about anyone that disagree with your opinion on life but about Democrats not passing a red flag bill because you would also focus on gang members.
So seeing you are refusing to discuss this by trying to change the subject show the board you are trolling as usual...
Now next you will proclaim the NRA is the biggest terrorist organization in the world and anyone that vote GOP are violent people that should be disarmed while still ignoring the content of the Op...
Just pointing out that Trump supporters are predisposed to violence which is a proven fact. There are certainly violent democrats as well.
Dems see it as a flaw. Republicans see it as a feature.
and yet again you fail to name just one,,,
Mr fields for one.
Let me get this straight.Democraps had a chance to vote FOR a Red-Flag law but instead chose to vote against it......to protect MS-13 Gang Members.
September 21, 2019
Dems Veto Red Flag Law for Gangbangers
By Daniel John Sobieski
If Democrats were serious about using red flag laws to keep guns out if the hands of people who might use them to senselessly murder others and therefore are danger to society, and not just as a gun-control tool to disarm law-abiding citizens, then why did they kill an attempt to use compiled lists of known gang members, which many police departments and law enforcement agencies possess? Why did they kill a measure to red flag gang members? And if Beto O’Rourke is going to come and take our guns, particularly our AR-15s, is he going to start on the south side of Chicago? As the Washington Examiner noted on September 14:
House Democrats this week advanced a new measure to encourage states to pass “red flag” laws, known as extreme risk protection orders, that authorize removing guns and ammunition from dangerous individuals.
Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee amended the measure during a Wednesday mark-up to authorize the federal government to issue extreme risk protection orders in some instances, but they rejected an amendment that would have red-flagged anyone who law enforcement lists as a gang member.
“The majority of violent crime, including gun violence, in the United States is linked to gangs,” Rep. Ken Buck, a Colorado Republican who sponsored the amendment, said Wednesday. “My amendment is quite simple. It would allow the issuance of a red flag order against anyone whose name appears in a gang database if there was probable cause to include that individual in the database.”
Dems like House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler warned that people could be wrongly identified as gang members, just as people have been mistakenly put on no-fly lists. But identifying NRA members and law-abiding citizens exercising their constitutional right to keep and bear arms as killers-in-waiting are okay to Nadler, Swalwell, and O’Rourke. Yet, as Buck points out, urban police departments have a pretty good idea of who the gang members in their community are and are held to a high standard before officially listing them as member:
Buck pointed out his amendment requires law enforcement to limit red-flagging to only those with probable cause to be included on the list, which is a stricter criteria…
“Maybe you are just doodling because it is the 13th of June,” Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler of New York said.
Buck said police have to meet a much higher threshold to list someone as a gang member.
“This is a situation where the police officers are trained, and there are very identifiable signs, and it isn't just one sign,” Buck told Nadler.
Chicago has the equivalent of a mass shooting every weekend, and just to put faces on those whom the Democrats want to exempt from red flag laws, consider that on last Tuesday two separate trials began in Chicago for known Chicago gang members Dwight Doty and Corey Morgan for the murder of nine-year-old Tyshawn Lee. As Fox News reported:
Two reputed Chicago gang members allegedly executed a 9-year-old boy in broad daylight because they sought revenge on the child’s father’s rival gang, which they blamed for gunning down family members, prosecutors said Tuesday.
Tyshawn Lee, 9, was in his school uniform when three men approached him in the South Side of Chicago in November 2015, prosecutors said during opening statements.
Prosecutors said Corey Morgan and Kevin Edwards kept watch while Dwight Doty lured the fourth grader into an alleyway. They said he promised him a juice box.
Doty then took out a .40-caliber handgun and shot Lee, Cook County Assistant State’s Attorney Margaret Hillmann said.
Two separate trials began for Morgan and Doty on Tuesday. The two alleged members of the Bang Gang/Terror Dome faction of the Black P Stones gang seek to pin the blame on each other for the child’s slaying, reports said.
No red flags for these guys.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/09/dems_veto_red_flag_law_for_gangbangers.html
You want the government to raid the homes of gun owners & take their guns based on being on a list of likely gang members.
I think the NRA is a gang.
Ummm, multiple felony arrests does not equate. Are you stupid, or just hyper partisan?
Not only that, Democrats haven’t impeached Trump. So it does give an indication that possibly Democrats support crime. Most criminals just commit crimes in the area where they’re in. A very small area. Donald Trump is attacking an entire nation and by attacking the nation, the world.Democraps had a chance to vote FOR a Red-Flag law but instead chose to vote against it......to protect MS-13 Gang Members.
September 21, 2019
Dems Veto Red Flag Law for Gangbangers
By Daniel John Sobieski
If Democrats were serious about using red flag laws to keep guns out if the hands of people who might use them to senselessly murder others and therefore are danger to society, and not just as a gun-control tool to disarm law-abiding citizens, then why did they kill an attempt to use compiled lists of known gang members, which many police departments and law enforcement agencies possess? Why did they kill a measure to red flag gang members? And if Beto O’Rourke is going to come and take our guns, particularly our AR-15s, is he going to start on the south side of Chicago? As the Washington Examiner noted on September 14:
House Democrats this week advanced a new measure to encourage states to pass “red flag” laws, known as extreme risk protection orders, that authorize removing guns and ammunition from dangerous individuals.
Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee amended the measure during a Wednesday mark-up to authorize the federal government to issue extreme risk protection orders in some instances, but they rejected an amendment that would have red-flagged anyone who law enforcement lists as a gang member.
“The majority of violent crime, including gun violence, in the United States is linked to gangs,” Rep. Ken Buck, a Colorado Republican who sponsored the amendment, said Wednesday. “My amendment is quite simple. It would allow the issuance of a red flag order against anyone whose name appears in a gang database if there was probable cause to include that individual in the database.”
Dems like House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler warned that people could be wrongly identified as gang members, just as people have been mistakenly put on no-fly lists. But identifying NRA members and law-abiding citizens exercising their constitutional right to keep and bear arms as killers-in-waiting are okay to Nadler, Swalwell, and O’Rourke. Yet, as Buck points out, urban police departments have a pretty good idea of who the gang members in their community are and are held to a high standard before officially listing them as member:
Buck pointed out his amendment requires law enforcement to limit red-flagging to only those with probable cause to be included on the list, which is a stricter criteria…
“Maybe you are just doodling because it is the 13th of June,” Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler of New York said.
Buck said police have to meet a much higher threshold to list someone as a gang member.
“This is a situation where the police officers are trained, and there are very identifiable signs, and it isn't just one sign,” Buck told Nadler.
Chicago has the equivalent of a mass shooting every weekend, and just to put faces on those whom the Democrats want to exempt from red flag laws, consider that on last Tuesday two separate trials began in Chicago for known Chicago gang members Dwight Doty and Corey Morgan for the murder of nine-year-old Tyshawn Lee. As Fox News reported:
Two reputed Chicago gang members allegedly executed a 9-year-old boy in broad daylight because they sought revenge on the child’s father’s rival gang, which they blamed for gunning down family members, prosecutors said Tuesday.
Tyshawn Lee, 9, was in his school uniform when three men approached him in the South Side of Chicago in November 2015, prosecutors said during opening statements.
Prosecutors said Corey Morgan and Kevin Edwards kept watch while Dwight Doty lured the fourth grader into an alleyway. They said he promised him a juice box.
Doty then took out a .40-caliber handgun and shot Lee, Cook County Assistant State’s Attorney Margaret Hillmann said.
Two separate trials began for Morgan and Doty on Tuesday. The two alleged members of the Bang Gang/Terror Dome faction of the Black P Stones gang seek to pin the blame on each other for the child’s slaying, reports said.
No red flags for these guys.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/09/dems_veto_red_flag_law_for_gangbangers.html
No courts is your solution./ You said that using courts were stupid because of corruption . So why don't you want courts?So now we will have no courts. Great. No law enforcement, no courts.You're sad.EVIDENCE has to be supplied to the judge BEFORE an order is signed. You can't just walk in to court and get a judge to sign a temporary order without some EVIDENCE.
Hahahaha!
That is so cute!
Wow!!
Really that was HILARIOUS!!!
You are so naive to think that way!!!!
Judges have a list of things to consider. I've posted it before and I'm not in here to get into another argument on red flag laws. This is about whether on a cop's "pretty much knowing" if someone is in a gang (with no evidence and no evidence of the person committing any crimes), his guns should be taken away.
Old Lady cops, and the D.A. fabricate evidence daily against people and I can provide so many incidents that you will cry about how sad I am!
Your blind faith in the justice system is the sad part if you think any law will prevent crimes or murders but what is even more sad is to believe our justice system is not corrupt...
Davey swinging to no courts answer again!
So Davey why were you for the No-Fly list to be used to deny American Citizens their Constitutional Rights but are against the Gang Bangers list?
The vasdt majority of police are good. Unlike you, I do not support the ones killing unarmrd black people.You are among the first to scream about due process, unless it comes to people you'd like to see punished. It's very clear why the law can't red flag people just because the police have "a pretty good idea" they are gang members.
It's a horrible gang. They are feral dregs of society and I'd like to see them stopped, too. But you have to follow the law.
Fair enough, but the proposed "red flag" laws that the Dems are advocating would allow the confiscation of weapons just because a friend, relative, doctor or nosy neighbor "has a pretty good idea" they are dangerous.
I think that if you are going to have such a red flag law, the police are more experts than neighbors, no?
A court decides. How stupid are you people?
A court decides and a crooked cop, D.A. and Judge decide you are dangerous because your neighbor pays them off to say you are is what will happen...
Lists are for future abuses and if you were for the No-Fly list and now against the Gang Banger list then it tell me you are a partisan hack just going with what MSM tell you to believe...
Yep. like that is really going to happen. How ridiculous.
If that were the case, they frame you with a traffic stop & "finding" drugs in your car.
The Red Flag law is a good idea. They just need to get the wording right to protect yet make it feasible for crazy assed people not to own guns.
Like you!
And yes would you like to see how many times the police and D.A. have been caught framing someone or will you say no because you believe Cops are good now?
Well...the NRA was TOTALLY on board with getting rid of open carry in California in the 1960s because of the scary black men with guns.Let me get this straight.Democraps had a chance to vote FOR a Red-Flag law but instead chose to vote against it......to protect MS-13 Gang Members.
September 21, 2019
Dems Veto Red Flag Law for Gangbangers
By Daniel John Sobieski
If Democrats were serious about using red flag laws to keep guns out if the hands of people who might use them to senselessly murder others and therefore are danger to society, and not just as a gun-control tool to disarm law-abiding citizens, then why did they kill an attempt to use compiled lists of known gang members, which many police departments and law enforcement agencies possess? Why did they kill a measure to red flag gang members? And if Beto O’Rourke is going to come and take our guns, particularly our AR-15s, is he going to start on the south side of Chicago? As the Washington Examiner noted on September 14:
House Democrats this week advanced a new measure to encourage states to pass “red flag” laws, known as extreme risk protection orders, that authorize removing guns and ammunition from dangerous individuals.
Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee amended the measure during a Wednesday mark-up to authorize the federal government to issue extreme risk protection orders in some instances, but they rejected an amendment that would have red-flagged anyone who law enforcement lists as a gang member.
“The majority of violent crime, including gun violence, in the United States is linked to gangs,” Rep. Ken Buck, a Colorado Republican who sponsored the amendment, said Wednesday. “My amendment is quite simple. It would allow the issuance of a red flag order against anyone whose name appears in a gang database if there was probable cause to include that individual in the database.”
Dems like House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler warned that people could be wrongly identified as gang members, just as people have been mistakenly put on no-fly lists. But identifying NRA members and law-abiding citizens exercising their constitutional right to keep and bear arms as killers-in-waiting are okay to Nadler, Swalwell, and O’Rourke. Yet, as Buck points out, urban police departments have a pretty good idea of who the gang members in their community are and are held to a high standard before officially listing them as member:
Buck pointed out his amendment requires law enforcement to limit red-flagging to only those with probable cause to be included on the list, which is a stricter criteria…
“Maybe you are just doodling because it is the 13th of June,” Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler of New York said.
Buck said police have to meet a much higher threshold to list someone as a gang member.
“This is a situation where the police officers are trained, and there are very identifiable signs, and it isn't just one sign,” Buck told Nadler.
Chicago has the equivalent of a mass shooting every weekend, and just to put faces on those whom the Democrats want to exempt from red flag laws, consider that on last Tuesday two separate trials began in Chicago for known Chicago gang members Dwight Doty and Corey Morgan for the murder of nine-year-old Tyshawn Lee. As Fox News reported:
Two reputed Chicago gang members allegedly executed a 9-year-old boy in broad daylight because they sought revenge on the child’s father’s rival gang, which they blamed for gunning down family members, prosecutors said Tuesday.
Tyshawn Lee, 9, was in his school uniform when three men approached him in the South Side of Chicago in November 2015, prosecutors said during opening statements.
Prosecutors said Corey Morgan and Kevin Edwards kept watch while Dwight Doty lured the fourth grader into an alleyway. They said he promised him a juice box.
Doty then took out a .40-caliber handgun and shot Lee, Cook County Assistant State’s Attorney Margaret Hillmann said.
Two separate trials began for Morgan and Doty on Tuesday. The two alleged members of the Bang Gang/Terror Dome faction of the Black P Stones gang seek to pin the blame on each other for the child’s slaying, reports said.
No red flags for these guys.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/09/dems_veto_red_flag_law_for_gangbangers.html
You want the government to raid the homes of gun owners & take their guns based on being on a list of likely gang members.
I think the NRA is a gang.
I discussed the title and demonstrated the well known fact that Trump supporters commit violence at an alarming rate and are defended after the fact.
The OP is not about your delusional thought about anyone that disagree with your opinion on life but about Democrats not passing a red flag bill because you would also focus on gang members.
So seeing you are refusing to discuss this by trying to change the subject show the board you are trolling as usual...
Now next you will proclaim the NRA is the biggest terrorist organization in the world and anyone that vote GOP are violent people that should be disarmed while still ignoring the content of the Op...
Just pointing out that Trump supporters are predisposed to violence which is a proven fact. There are certainly violent democrats as well.
Dems see it as a flaw. Republicans see it as a feature.
and yet again you fail to name just one,,,
Mr fields for one.
and how exactly is he a trump supporter??
got a linkWell...the NRA was TOTALLY on board with getting rid of open carry in California in the 1960s because of the scary black men with guns.Let me get this straight.Democraps had a chance to vote FOR a Red-Flag law but instead chose to vote against it......to protect MS-13 Gang Members.
September 21, 2019
Dems Veto Red Flag Law for Gangbangers
By Daniel John Sobieski
If Democrats were serious about using red flag laws to keep guns out if the hands of people who might use them to senselessly murder others and therefore are danger to society, and not just as a gun-control tool to disarm law-abiding citizens, then why did they kill an attempt to use compiled lists of known gang members, which many police departments and law enforcement agencies possess? Why did they kill a measure to red flag gang members? And if Beto O’Rourke is going to come and take our guns, particularly our AR-15s, is he going to start on the south side of Chicago? As the Washington Examiner noted on September 14:
House Democrats this week advanced a new measure to encourage states to pass “red flag” laws, known as extreme risk protection orders, that authorize removing guns and ammunition from dangerous individuals.
Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee amended the measure during a Wednesday mark-up to authorize the federal government to issue extreme risk protection orders in some instances, but they rejected an amendment that would have red-flagged anyone who law enforcement lists as a gang member.
“The majority of violent crime, including gun violence, in the United States is linked to gangs,” Rep. Ken Buck, a Colorado Republican who sponsored the amendment, said Wednesday. “My amendment is quite simple. It would allow the issuance of a red flag order against anyone whose name appears in a gang database if there was probable cause to include that individual in the database.”
Dems like House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler warned that people could be wrongly identified as gang members, just as people have been mistakenly put on no-fly lists. But identifying NRA members and law-abiding citizens exercising their constitutional right to keep and bear arms as killers-in-waiting are okay to Nadler, Swalwell, and O’Rourke. Yet, as Buck points out, urban police departments have a pretty good idea of who the gang members in their community are and are held to a high standard before officially listing them as member:
Buck pointed out his amendment requires law enforcement to limit red-flagging to only those with probable cause to be included on the list, which is a stricter criteria…
“Maybe you are just doodling because it is the 13th of June,” Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler of New York said.
Buck said police have to meet a much higher threshold to list someone as a gang member.
“This is a situation where the police officers are trained, and there are very identifiable signs, and it isn't just one sign,” Buck told Nadler.
Chicago has the equivalent of a mass shooting every weekend, and just to put faces on those whom the Democrats want to exempt from red flag laws, consider that on last Tuesday two separate trials began in Chicago for known Chicago gang members Dwight Doty and Corey Morgan for the murder of nine-year-old Tyshawn Lee. As Fox News reported:
Two reputed Chicago gang members allegedly executed a 9-year-old boy in broad daylight because they sought revenge on the child’s father’s rival gang, which they blamed for gunning down family members, prosecutors said Tuesday.
Tyshawn Lee, 9, was in his school uniform when three men approached him in the South Side of Chicago in November 2015, prosecutors said during opening statements.
Prosecutors said Corey Morgan and Kevin Edwards kept watch while Dwight Doty lured the fourth grader into an alleyway. They said he promised him a juice box.
Doty then took out a .40-caliber handgun and shot Lee, Cook County Assistant State’s Attorney Margaret Hillmann said.
Two separate trials began for Morgan and Doty on Tuesday. The two alleged members of the Bang Gang/Terror Dome faction of the Black P Stones gang seek to pin the blame on each other for the child’s slaying, reports said.
No red flags for these guys.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/09/dems_veto_red_flag_law_for_gangbangers.html
You want the government to raid the homes of gun owners & take their guns based on being on a list of likely gang members.
I think the NRA is a gang.
The OP is not about your delusional thought about anyone that disagree with your opinion on life but about Democrats not passing a red flag bill because you would also focus on gang members.
So seeing you are refusing to discuss this by trying to change the subject show the board you are trolling as usual...
Now next you will proclaim the NRA is the biggest terrorist organization in the world and anyone that vote GOP are violent people that should be disarmed while still ignoring the content of the Op...
Just pointing out that Trump supporters are predisposed to violence which is a proven fact. There are certainly violent democrats as well.
Dems see it as a flaw. Republicans see it as a feature.
and yet again you fail to name just one,,,
Mr fields for one.
and how exactly is he a trump supporter??
Oh lord. Are you arguing he was a clinton supporter or a liberal?
He attended a "unite the right rally"....Your Blob--the RIGHT WING president....
Next!
Just pointing out that Trump supporters are predisposed to violence which is a proven fact. There are certainly violent democrats as well.
Dems see it as a flaw. Republicans see it as a feature.
and yet again you fail to name just one,,,
Mr fields for one.
James Alex Fields? The young man who CNN baited to come out of his mum's basement by promising that an important event was happening in Charlottesville? Fields didn't use a firearm for his crime, he used an automobile.
Yeah right...CNN forced him to drive across 7 states.
Again, start using steroids to elevate your mind to weakness-strength then tell us how CNN made one of your blob’s very fine people do what he did.
Thanks for the chuckle
No one "forced" him to do anything. They baited him by advertising the Triple K event and making it seem as if guys like Dave Duke were important people to someone with a feeble mind.
Just pointing out that Trump supporters are predisposed to violence which is a proven fact. There are certainly violent democrats as well.
Dems see it as a flaw. Republicans see it as a feature.
and yet again you fail to name just one,,,
Mr fields for one.
and how exactly is he a trump supporter??
Oh lord. Are you arguing he was a clinton supporter or a liberal?
He attended a "unite the right rally"....Your Blob--the RIGHT WING president....
Next!
so you dont have any proof,,,didnt think so
