Its only OK when a Democrat does it!

[Clementine]

Carter Banned Iranians from Coming to US During Hostage Crisis

8 U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens

Oh and that law there was passed by a DEMOCRAT majority Senate and House AND SIGNED by a DEMOCRAT PRESIDENT!

Like said its OK for a democrat to do it,but its waycist when a Republican says to do it!

Can you imagine if Carter had just demanded that the country not judge Iranians back then and let them in anyway?

It is irresponsible for Obama to bring in so many refugees since we know that there will be ISIS members among them. And we have to depend on the Syrian government to help vet them. My, won't they be helpful and consider our safety as a priority.

We could help all those refugees where they are and not relocate them. That is a more common sense approach that would help more people faster and would be much easier on our budget.

Refugees have been interviewed and many do not want to come here. Just send them some aid and stop all the nonsense.

Islam isn't really a religion, especially not with the extremists. It is an oppressive form of government that they seek to push on everyone else. They have been clear that the majority want sharia and NOT our constitution. If you regard Islam as more of a government than a religion, how is it wrong to deny the radicals? Why can't we ask them if they intend to follow sharia law instead of our laws? That should make them ineligible and we should outright ban sharia and oppressive treatment of women. If they can't abide by our freedoms, they don't need to come.

 

[frigidweirdo]

false! that's your willful misinterpretation of what you wish was the founders intent.

You think they meant for it to cover everybody in the whole fucking world?

no, you didn't say that, you specifically said the constitution was for citizens only, and you are wrong on that.... the constitution, our rules and regs, our laws apply to anyone in USA jurisdiction....so our laws and constitution applies to foreigners when on our soil, with the exception of alien diplomats and their families, who have diplomatic immunity.

AND, the first amendment keeps our government from making ANY law that establishes or prohibits (in any way), a religion.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

So it seems like they would be restricted in making any law that would prohibit those of the Muslim Religion from entering here...???? But I am not 100% certain....

First off Immigrants who want to come here ARE NOT ON US SOIL YET!!!!!!! So no they don't have any fucking rights. Breaking into our house doesn't give you family or visitor rights it makes you a criminal. Still YOU HAVE NO FUCKING RIGHTS. You're a criminal Trespassers shall be fucking shot.

Wow, non-Americans have no rights.

Or maybe someone needs to understand the theory of Human Rights AND the US Constitution.

The constitution is for the country America. It isn't the worlds constitution.

The US Constitution is for... wait for it.... THE US GOVERNMENT.

This is the rules the govt must abide by. Which means the US govt must abide by them at all times, regardless of whether the person they are beating up is a US citizen or not.

Human Rights theory = ALL HUMANS HAVE THESE RIGHTS.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

it has to do with religion....not nationality. Our constitution ensures religious freedom making Trumps idea unconstitutional.

It has to do with Syrians. Do not let them in.

 

[Slyhunter]

You think they meant for it to cover everybody in the whole fucking world?

no, you didn't say that, you specifically said the constitution was for citizens only, and you are wrong on that.... the constitution, our rules and regs, our laws apply to anyone in USA jurisdiction....so our laws and constitution applies to foreigners when on our soil, with the exception of alien diplomats and their families, who have diplomatic immunity.

AND, the first amendment keeps our government from making ANY law that establishes or prohibits (in any way), a religion.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

So it seems like they would be restricted in making any law that would prohibit those of the Muslim Religion from entering here...???? But I am not 100% certain....

First off Immigrants who want to come here ARE NOT ON US SOIL YET!!!!!!! So no they don't have any fucking rights. Breaking into our house doesn't give you family or visitor rights it makes you a criminal. Still YOU HAVE NO FUCKING RIGHTS. You're a criminal Trespassers shall be fucking shot.

Wow, non-Americans have no rights.

Or maybe someone needs to understand the theory of Human Rights AND the US Constitution.

The constitution is for the country America. It isn't the worlds constitution.

The US Constitution is for... wait for it.... THE US GOVERNMENT.

This is the rules the govt must abide by. Which means the US govt must abide by them at all times, regardless of whether the person they are beating up is a US citizen or not.

Human Rights theory = ALL HUMANS HAVE THESE RIGHTS.

For Americans.
Not illegal trespassers.

 

[frigidweirdo]

no, you didn't say that, you specifically said the constitution was for citizens only, and you are wrong on that.... the constitution, our rules and regs, our laws apply to anyone in USA jurisdiction....so our laws and constitution applies to foreigners when on our soil, with the exception of alien diplomats and their families, who have diplomatic immunity.

AND, the first amendment keeps our government from making ANY law that establishes or prohibits (in any way), a religion.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

So it seems like they would be restricted in making any law that would prohibit those of the Muslim Religion from entering here...???? But I am not 100% certain....

First off Immigrants who want to come here ARE NOT ON US SOIL YET!!!!!!! So no they don't have any fucking rights. Breaking into our house doesn't give you family or visitor rights it makes you a criminal. Still YOU HAVE NO FUCKING RIGHTS. You're a criminal Trespassers shall be fucking shot.

Wow, non-Americans have no rights.

Or maybe someone needs to understand the theory of Human Rights AND the US Constitution.

The constitution is for the country America. It isn't the worlds constitution.

The US Constitution is for... wait for it.... THE US GOVERNMENT.

This is the rules the govt must abide by. Which means the US govt must abide by them at all times, regardless of whether the person they are beating up is a US citizen or not.

Human Rights theory = ALL HUMANS HAVE THESE RIGHTS.

For Americans.
Not illegal trespassers.

What "For Americans."????? Human Rights or the US constitution?

You speak caveman, I treat you like caveman.

 

[Slyhunter]

First off Immigrants who want to come here ARE NOT ON US SOIL YET!!!!!!! So no they don't have any fucking rights. Breaking into our house doesn't give you family or visitor rights it makes you a criminal. Still YOU HAVE NO FUCKING RIGHTS. You're a criminal Trespassers shall be fucking shot.

Wow, non-Americans have no rights.

Or maybe someone needs to understand the theory of Human Rights AND the US Constitution.

The constitution is for the country America. It isn't the worlds constitution.

The US Constitution is for... wait for it.... THE US GOVERNMENT.

This is the rules the govt must abide by. Which means the US govt must abide by them at all times, regardless of whether the person they are beating up is a US citizen or not.

Human Rights theory = ALL HUMANS HAVE THESE RIGHTS.

For Americans.
Not illegal trespassers.

What "For Americans."????? Human Rights or the US constitution?

You speak caveman, I treat you like caveman.

The subject, in case you forgot, is the constitution.

 

[Redfish]

You think they meant for it to cover everybody in the whole fucking world?

no, you didn't say that, you specifically said the constitution was for citizens only, and you are wrong on that.... the constitution, our rules and regs, our laws apply to anyone in USA jurisdiction....so our laws and constitution applies to foreigners when on our soil, with the exception of alien diplomats and their families, who have diplomatic immunity.

AND, the first amendment keeps our government from making ANY law that establishes or prohibits (in any way), a religion.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

So it seems like they would be restricted in making any law that would prohibit those of the Muslim Religion from entering here...???? But I am not 100% certain....

First off Immigrants who want to come here ARE NOT ON US SOIL YET!!!!!!! So no they don't have any fucking rights. Breaking into our house doesn't give you family or visitor rights it makes you a criminal. Still YOU HAVE NO FUCKING RIGHTS. You're a criminal Trespassers shall be fucking shot.

Wow, non-Americans have no rights.

Or maybe someone needs to understand the theory of Human Rights AND the US Constitution.

The constitution is for the country America. It isn't the worlds constitution.

The US Constitution is for... wait for it.... THE US GOVERNMENT.

This is the rules the govt must abide by. Which means the US govt must abide by them at all times, regardless of whether the person they are beating up is a US citizen or not.

Human Rights theory = ALL HUMANS HAVE THESE RIGHTS.

Wrong, only US citizens have the rights and protections provided by the US constitution.

 

[ogibillm]

no, you didn't say that, you specifically said the constitution was for citizens only, and you are wrong on that.... the constitution, our rules and regs, our laws apply to anyone in USA jurisdiction....so our laws and constitution applies to foreigners when on our soil, with the exception of alien diplomats and their families, who have diplomatic immunity.

AND, the first amendment keeps our government from making ANY law that establishes or prohibits (in any way), a religion.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

So it seems like they would be restricted in making any law that would prohibit those of the Muslim Religion from entering here...???? But I am not 100% certain....

First off Immigrants who want to come here ARE NOT ON US SOIL YET!!!!!!! So no they don't have any fucking rights. Breaking into our house doesn't give you family or visitor rights it makes you a criminal. Still YOU HAVE NO FUCKING RIGHTS. You're a criminal Trespassers shall be fucking shot.

Wow, non-Americans have no rights.

Or maybe someone needs to understand the theory of Human Rights AND the US Constitution.

The constitution is for the country America. It isn't the worlds constitution.

The US Constitution is for... wait for it.... THE US GOVERNMENT.

This is the rules the govt must abide by. Which means the US govt must abide by them at all times, regardless of whether the person they are beating up is a US citizen or not.

Human Rights theory = ALL HUMANS HAVE THESE RIGHTS.

Wrong, only US citizens have the rights and protections provided by the US constitution.

Nope.

 

[frigidweirdo]

no, you didn't say that, you specifically said the constitution was for citizens only, and you are wrong on that.... the constitution, our rules and regs, our laws apply to anyone in USA jurisdiction....so our laws and constitution applies to foreigners when on our soil, with the exception of alien diplomats and their families, who have diplomatic immunity.

AND, the first amendment keeps our government from making ANY law that establishes or prohibits (in any way), a religion.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

So it seems like they would be restricted in making any law that would prohibit those of the Muslim Religion from entering here...???? But I am not 100% certain....

First off Immigrants who want to come here ARE NOT ON US SOIL YET!!!!!!! So no they don't have any fucking rights. Breaking into our house doesn't give you family or visitor rights it makes you a criminal. Still YOU HAVE NO FUCKING RIGHTS. You're a criminal Trespassers shall be fucking shot.

Wow, non-Americans have no rights.

Or maybe someone needs to understand the theory of Human Rights AND the US Constitution.

The constitution is for the country America. It isn't the worlds constitution.

The US Constitution is for... wait for it.... THE US GOVERNMENT.

This is the rules the govt must abide by. Which means the US govt must abide by them at all times, regardless of whether the person they are beating up is a US citizen or not.

Human Rights theory = ALL HUMANS HAVE THESE RIGHTS.

Wrong, only US citizens have the rights and protections provided by the US constitution.

It's so, SO depressing when people don't understand their own constitution, it really is.

Again, the US Constitution doesn't give rights at all, it merely prevents the US govt from doing something, thereby protecting rights from the US govt.

Certain parts of the BoRs state that the govt cannot do something. This means, ironically enough, that the US govt CAN'T DO IT.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,"

This means Congress can't do it. It doesn't mean it can't do it unless the people involved are not US citizens.

"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, "

No person, this means NO PERSON. It doesn't mean, "No American person".

Also, the Supreme Court has stated this, tourists who go on holiday to the US do NOT forfeit their rights in any way, shape or form.

Rights are considered to be held by ALL PEOPLE.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Wow, non-Americans have no rights.

Or maybe someone needs to understand the theory of Human Rights AND the US Constitution.

The constitution is for the country America. It isn't the worlds constitution.

The US Constitution is for... wait for it.... THE US GOVERNMENT.

This is the rules the govt must abide by. Which means the US govt must abide by them at all times, regardless of whether the person they are beating up is a US citizen or not.

Human Rights theory = ALL HUMANS HAVE THESE RIGHTS.

For Americans.
Not illegal trespassers.

What "For Americans."????? Human Rights or the US constitution?

You speak caveman, I treat you like caveman.

The subject, in case you forgot, is the constitution.

The subject was Human Rights AND the US Constitution, in case you can't read.

If your post doesn't have a verb, there's probably a problem.

 

[Redfish]

First off Immigrants who want to come here ARE NOT ON US SOIL YET!!!!!!! So no they don't have any fucking rights. Breaking into our house doesn't give you family or visitor rights it makes you a criminal. Still YOU HAVE NO FUCKING RIGHTS. You're a criminal Trespassers shall be fucking shot.

Wow, non-Americans have no rights.

Or maybe someone needs to understand the theory of Human Rights AND the US Constitution.

The constitution is for the country America. It isn't the worlds constitution.

The US Constitution is for... wait for it.... THE US GOVERNMENT.

This is the rules the govt must abide by. Which means the US govt must abide by them at all times, regardless of whether the person they are beating up is a US citizen or not.

Human Rights theory = ALL HUMANS HAVE THESE RIGHTS.

Wrong, only US citizens have the rights and protections provided by the US constitution.

It's so, SO depressing when people don't understand their own constitution, it really is.

Again, the US Constitution doesn't give rights at all, it merely prevents the US govt from doing something, thereby protecting rights from the US govt.

Certain parts of the BoRs state that the govt cannot do something. This means, ironically enough, that the US govt CAN'T DO IT.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,"

This means Congress can't do it. It doesn't mean it can't do it unless the people involved are not US citizens.

"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, "

No person, this means NO PERSON. It doesn't mean, "No American person".

Also, the Supreme Court has stated this, tourists who go on holiday to the US do NOT forfeit their rights in any way, shape or form.

Rights are considered to be held by ALL PEOPLE.

So, in your small mind, people living in Taiwan have the protections and rights of the US constitution? Do people in this country illegally have constitutional rights? How about convicted felons?

your "ALL PEOPLE" statement is both naïve and ignorant.

 

[daws101]

The constitution is for American citizens and American Citizens only.

simply not true...

NO WHERE in the Bill of Rights does it mention you have to be a citizen for the protection and over reach from the gvt.

EVERYONE in this Nation, including foreigners visiting, foreigners working here and illegal immigrants are covered under the bill of rights....

there is NO ARGUMENT you can make to change that...

Founders intent....

false! that's your willful misinterpretation of what you wish was the founders intent.

You think they meant for it to cover everybody in the whole fucking world?

damn you're ignorant...

 

[daws101]

no, you didn't say that, you specifically said the constitution was for citizens only, and you are wrong on that.... the constitution, our rules and regs, our laws apply to anyone in USA jurisdiction....so our laws and constitution applies to foreigners when on our soil, with the exception of alien diplomats and their families, who have diplomatic immunity.

AND, the first amendment keeps our government from making ANY law that establishes or prohibits (in any way), a religion.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

So it seems like they would be restricted in making any law that would prohibit those of the Muslim Religion from entering here...???? But I am not 100% certain....

First off Immigrants who want to come here ARE NOT ON US SOIL YET!!!!!!! So no they don't have any fucking rights. Breaking into our house doesn't give you family or visitor rights it makes you a criminal. Still YOU HAVE NO FUCKING RIGHTS. You're a criminal Trespassers shall be fucking shot.

Wow, non-Americans have no rights.

Or maybe someone needs to understand the theory of Human Rights AND the US Constitution.

The constitution is for the country America. It isn't the worlds constitution.

The US Constitution is for... wait for it.... THE US GOVERNMENT.

This is the rules the govt must abide by. Which means the US govt must abide by them at all times, regardless of whether the person they are beating up is a US citizen or not.

Human Rights theory = ALL HUMANS HAVE THESE RIGHTS.

Wrong, only US citizens have the rights and protections provided by the US constitution.

false anyone in any place that the US has a embassy or diplomatic station is covered by the constitution.
also any ship ,flight our any other conveyance that is owned or used by the US is sovereign territory .
everyone on board is protected by the constitution.
now do you ignorant fucks get it.?

 

[daws101]

Wow, non-Americans have no rights.

Or maybe someone needs to understand the theory of Human Rights AND the US Constitution.

The constitution is for the country America. It isn't the worlds constitution.

The US Constitution is for... wait for it.... THE US GOVERNMENT.

This is the rules the govt must abide by. Which means the US govt must abide by them at all times, regardless of whether the person they are beating up is a US citizen or not.

Human Rights theory = ALL HUMANS HAVE THESE RIGHTS.

Wrong, only US citizens have the rights and protections provided by the US constitution.

It's so, SO depressing when people don't understand their own constitution, it really is.

Again, the US Constitution doesn't give rights at all, it merely prevents the US govt from doing something, thereby protecting rights from the US govt.

Certain parts of the BoRs state that the govt cannot do something. This means, ironically enough, that the US govt CAN'T DO IT.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,"

This means Congress can't do it. It doesn't mean it can't do it unless the people involved are not US citizens.

"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, "

No person, this means NO PERSON. It doesn't mean, "No American person".

Also, the Supreme Court has stated this, tourists who go on holiday to the US do NOT forfeit their rights in any way, shape or form.

Rights are considered to be held by ALL PEOPLE.

So, in your small mind, people living in Taiwan have the protections and rights of the US constitution? Do people in this country illegally have constitutional rights? How about convicted felons?

your "ALL PEOPLE" statement is both naïve and ignorant.

false! what's ignorant willful or otherwise is your misinterpretation.
yes illegals have rights due process being one of them.
convicts lose these rights
Some of the most common rights lost or severely curtailed by a felony record include:

• Voting
• Traveling abroad
• The right to bear arms or own guns
• Jury service
• Employment in certain fields
• Public social benefits and housing
• Parental benefits

Law Dictionary: What Rights Do Convicted Felons Lose?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Wow, non-Americans have no rights.

Or maybe someone needs to understand the theory of Human Rights AND the US Constitution.

The constitution is for the country America. It isn't the worlds constitution.

The US Constitution is for... wait for it.... THE US GOVERNMENT.

This is the rules the govt must abide by. Which means the US govt must abide by them at all times, regardless of whether the person they are beating up is a US citizen or not.

Human Rights theory = ALL HUMANS HAVE THESE RIGHTS.

Wrong, only US citizens have the rights and protections provided by the US constitution.

It's so, SO depressing when people don't understand their own constitution, it really is.

Again, the US Constitution doesn't give rights at all, it merely prevents the US govt from doing something, thereby protecting rights from the US govt.

Certain parts of the BoRs state that the govt cannot do something. This means, ironically enough, that the US govt CAN'T DO IT.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,"

This means Congress can't do it. It doesn't mean it can't do it unless the people involved are not US citizens.

"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, "

No person, this means NO PERSON. It doesn't mean, "No American person".

Also, the Supreme Court has stated this, tourists who go on holiday to the US do NOT forfeit their rights in any way, shape or form.

Rights are considered to be held by ALL PEOPLE.

So, in your small mind, people living in Taiwan have the protections and rights of the US constitution? Do people in this country illegally have constitutional rights? How about convicted felons?

your "ALL PEOPLE" statement is both naïve and ignorant.

Did I say that? No I did not.

People in Taiwan have HUMAN RIGHTS.

People from Taiwan who are in the US have the protection of the US Constitution.

Do you understand?

 

[Clementine]

It's so, SO depressing when people don't understand their own constitution, it really is.

Again, the US Constitution doesn't give rights at all, it merely prevents the US govt from doing something, thereby protecting rights from the US govt.

Certain parts of the BoRs state that the govt cannot do something. This means, ironically enough, that the US govt CAN'T DO IT.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,"

This means Congress can't do it. It doesn't mean it can't do it unless the people involved are not US citizens.

"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, "

No person, this means NO PERSON. It doesn't mean, "No American person".

Also, the Supreme Court has stated this, tourists who go on holiday to the US do NOT forfeit their rights in any way, shape or form.

Rights are considered to be held by ALL PEOPLE.

The radicals who believe in sharia law seek to take all rights away from people. We should never allow it since it goes directly against our constitution. Ban sharia and anyone who believes in it should be banned from seeking public office. If we know someone has the intent to undermine our rights, we should fight against it.

 

[frigidweirdo]

It's so, SO depressing when people don't understand their own constitution, it really is.

Again, the US Constitution doesn't give rights at all, it merely prevents the US govt from doing something, thereby protecting rights from the US govt.

Certain parts of the BoRs state that the govt cannot do something. This means, ironically enough, that the US govt CAN'T DO IT.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,"

This means Congress can't do it. It doesn't mean it can't do it unless the people involved are not US citizens.

"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, "

No person, this means NO PERSON. It doesn't mean, "No American person".

Also, the Supreme Court has stated this, tourists who go on holiday to the US do NOT forfeit their rights in any way, shape or form.

Rights are considered to be held by ALL PEOPLE.

The radicals who believe in sharia law seek to take all rights away from people. We should never allow it since it goes directly against our constitution. Ban sharia and anyone who believes in it should be banned from seeking public office. If we know someone has the intent to undermine our rights, we should fight against it.

Someone who wants Sharia shouldn't be banned for office until they actually do something about it.

 

[Redfish]

The constitution is for the country America. It isn't the worlds constitution.

The US Constitution is for... wait for it.... THE US GOVERNMENT.

This is the rules the govt must abide by. Which means the US govt must abide by them at all times, regardless of whether the person they are beating up is a US citizen or not.

Human Rights theory = ALL HUMANS HAVE THESE RIGHTS.

Wrong, only US citizens have the rights and protections provided by the US constitution.

It's so, SO depressing when people don't understand their own constitution, it really is.

Again, the US Constitution doesn't give rights at all, it merely prevents the US govt from doing something, thereby protecting rights from the US govt.

Certain parts of the BoRs state that the govt cannot do something. This means, ironically enough, that the US govt CAN'T DO IT.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,"

This means Congress can't do it. It doesn't mean it can't do it unless the people involved are not US citizens.

"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, "

No person, this means NO PERSON. It doesn't mean, "No American person".

Also, the Supreme Court has stated this, tourists who go on holiday to the US do NOT forfeit their rights in any way, shape or form.

Rights are considered to be held by ALL PEOPLE.

So, in your small mind, people living in Taiwan have the protections and rights of the US constitution? Do people in this country illegally have constitutional rights? How about convicted felons?

your "ALL PEOPLE" statement is both naïve and ignorant.

Did I say that? No I did not.

People in Taiwan have HUMAN RIGHTS.

People from Taiwan who are in the US have the protection of the US Constitution.

Do you understand?

you said "Rights are considered to be held by ALL PEOPLE" the discussion was on US constitutional rights. US constitutional rights are not considered held by all people. Only US citizens and non-citizens who are in this country LEGALLY.

We consider that basic human rights are conferred by God, many nations take away some or all of those human rights, such as muslim nations that treat women as property with no rights except those conferred by their husbands or fathers.

I don't know why you libs are so ignorant about the US constitution. Should we blame the teachers union?

 

[Redfish]

It's so, SO depressing when people don't understand their own constitution, it really is.

Again, the US Constitution doesn't give rights at all, it merely prevents the US govt from doing something, thereby protecting rights from the US govt.

Certain parts of the BoRs state that the govt cannot do something. This means, ironically enough, that the US govt CAN'T DO IT.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,"

This means Congress can't do it. It doesn't mean it can't do it unless the people involved are not US citizens.

"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, "

No person, this means NO PERSON. It doesn't mean, "No American person".

Also, the Supreme Court has stated this, tourists who go on holiday to the US do NOT forfeit their rights in any way, shape or form.

Rights are considered to be held by ALL PEOPLE.

The radicals who believe in sharia law seek to take all rights away from people. We should never allow it since it goes directly against our constitution. Ban sharia and anyone who believes in it should be banned from seeking public office. If we know someone has the intent to undermine our rights, we should fight against it.

Someone who wants Sharia shouldn't be banned for office until they actually do something about it.

^^^^^this post shows why liberals should not be allowed in any positions of power.

Using frigid's logic, its ok to put a person in office who wants sharia law until they actually try to invoke sharia law. They are in office, idiot, you would have given them the authority to change our laws.

 

[daws101]

The US Constitution is for... wait for it.... THE US GOVERNMENT.

This is the rules the govt must abide by. Which means the US govt must abide by them at all times, regardless of whether the person they are beating up is a US citizen or not.

Human Rights theory = ALL HUMANS HAVE THESE RIGHTS.

Wrong, only US citizens have the rights and protections provided by the US constitution.

It's so, SO depressing when people don't understand their own constitution, it really is.

Again, the US Constitution doesn't give rights at all, it merely prevents the US govt from doing something, thereby protecting rights from the US govt.

Certain parts of the BoRs state that the govt cannot do something. This means, ironically enough, that the US govt CAN'T DO IT.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,"

This means Congress can't do it. It doesn't mean it can't do it unless the people involved are not US citizens.

"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, "

No person, this means NO PERSON. It doesn't mean, "No American person".

Also, the Supreme Court has stated this, tourists who go on holiday to the US do NOT forfeit their rights in any way, shape or form.

Rights are considered to be held by ALL PEOPLE.

So, in your small mind, people living in Taiwan have the protections and rights of the US constitution? Do people in this country illegally have constitutional rights? How about convicted felons?

your "ALL PEOPLE" statement is both naïve and ignorant.

Did I say that? No I did not.

People in Taiwan have HUMAN RIGHTS.

People from Taiwan who are in the US have the protection of the US Constitution.

Do you understand?

you said "Rights are considered to be held by ALL PEOPLE" the discussion was on US constitutional rights. US constitutional rights are not considered held by all people. Only US citizens and non-citizens who are in this country LEGALLY.

We consider that basic human rights are conferred by God, many nations take away some or all of those human rights, such as muslim nations that treat women as property with no rights except those conferred by their husbands or fathers.

I don't know why you libs are so ignorant about the US constitution. Should we blame the teachers union?

oh no the semantics ploy!