i've re-considered the entire Ukraine case.. enter *your* opinions please..

[AntonToo]

Because they are to anyone

No they aren't crazy bags.

 

[georgephillip]

Did you just seriously parrot that while Ukraine is blitzing through front lines RIGHT NOW, using western hardware, knocking Russians the fuck out of entire Kharkiv oblast and taking Izium?

How many casualties did Ukraine take in their latest "counter-offensive"?
Russia withdrew to bolster their assault on Bakhmut.

Ukraine sliding into a real war - Indian Punchline

 

[georgephillip]

It’s the way of neoliberal capitalists.

How many millions have capitalists killed over the past three centuries?

 

[AntonToo]

How many casualties did Ukraine take in their latest "counter-offensive"?
Russia withdrew to bolster their assault on Bakhmut.
Ukraine sliding into a real war - Indian Punchline

Even Russian propagandists on state TV acknowledge a serious setback in their Ukranian adventures.

You are a fucking joke.

 

[gipper]

How many millions have capitalists killed over the past three centuries?

An untold number.

 

[georgephillip]

War has become a policy promoted and enacted throughout our government, media, and economy. We have become a militaristic imperialist nation. Of course this has been true for a long time, but has gotten progressively worse.

Most Americans (including many recent white-skinned immigrants) are in denial about the role imperialism has played in US standards of living. In fact, most Americans would be hard-pressed to define the term.

Encyclopedia Britannica has this interpretation:

The US Empire Is Crumbling Before Our Eyes

"According to the Encyclopedia, 'imperialism' denotes 'state policy, practice, or advocacy of extending power and dominion, especially by direct territorial acquisition or by gaining political and economic control of other areas.'

"Furthermore, imperialism 'always involves the use of power, whether military or economic or some subtler form.'

"In other words, the word indicates a country’s attempts to control and reap economic benefit from lands outside its borders."

Since 1971 US Treasuries have functioned in much the same way as the gold standard. The last thirty years of American arrogance and indifference to the rule of law is convincing many countries to rethink their reliance on the US dollar as a global reserve currency.

If enough countries dump the dollar, it will become impossible for the US to continue reaping economic benefits from lands outside its borders, and all the violence and misery the US has rained down on people across the globe will come home to roost.

 

[ESay]

I looked up the definition of imperialist to help you out, and look what I found…
[IMG alt="ESay"]https://www.usmessageboard.com/data/avatars/l/53/53973.jpg?1624675376[/IMG]

Definition? In a dictionary? Don't try to use that complex material anymore. Try to 'read' books with pictures.

 

[gipper]

Definition? In a dictionary? Don't try to use that complex material anymore. Try to 'read' books with pictures.

But I was desperately trying to get down to your level. Uke.

 

[ESay]

But I was desperately trying to get down to your level. Uke.

As usual, you were moving in the opposite direction, Yuri.

 

[georgephillip]

You failed the course. Get a bucket and start cleaning out the bathrooms.

You're bathroom is a bucket, Bandera.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...d4b1e0-a503-4f73-aaa7-5dd5d6a1c665_story.html

 

[georgephillip]

You know they’ll never understand the truth.

Up until 60 minutes ago I would have agreed, but I've been listening to Scott Ritter talk about upcoming war crimes trials in Russia with Azov defendants. According to Scott the Nazis were religious about documenting their rapes, murders, torture sessions in Mariupol on their cell phones which the Russians now possess. I know it's a long shot, but with the Internet...who knows?

 

[georgephillip]

So NATO, which has NEVER touched any Russian border needed Ukraine to kill Russians....so Russians had to "defensively" invade and bomb the shit out of Ukraine...so that NATO finally arms Ukraine to the teeth and they could finally kill alot of Russians (~40,000 invaders and counting), embarass the shit out of "worlds 2nd best army" and send Russian economy back to the 90's.

Who could ever possibly think that Putin DIDN'T have to get Russia into this bloody clusterfuck?

Can't find any NATO-Russia borders?

NATO has armed Ukraine to the teeth in order to promote regime change in Moscow; there will be regime change in Paris, Berlin, and DC long before any comes to Russia.

 

[georgephillip]

9/11 changed the world. It is interesting to remember simple things like how if some country or situation was acting aggressively, certainly in the UK, we would ask why they were doing it. You can't sort anything out if you do not know what is going on. That totally ended with 9/11. They were evil and had to be destroyed. I don't think, apart from crazies in NI I had even heard the word 'evil' used in the UK but just one day after 9/11 Tony Blair used it and that was the change pretty much done except it took a few days in the US and a few months, maybe years in the UK for many people to stop trying to work out what motivated 9/11 apart from 'jealousy'!

9/11 changed what was a West developing psychological maturity to one with no ability to self reflect. One where having empathy is considered a gross flaw.

Bin Laden believed this would happen. He has been shown to have been correct and hence, he won.

Until someone provides a credible explanation for how two commercial aircraft collapsed three steel-framed skyscrapers into their own footprints, bin Laden's winning streak will never be broken, imho.

 

[georgephillip]

One would think most Americans would be noninterventionists or isolationists, after decades of failures by the military industrial complex. From Vietnam to Afghanistan, all we have to show is death and destruction. Trillions wasted on foreign wars should inform Americans, but somehow it doesn’t.

Americans seem to cherish their martial legacy especially when it involves the mass destruction of non-White people, but we don't seem to process the occasional defeat very well

The Chris Hedges Report: The monstrous myth of Custer

"The playwright Eugene O’Neill said that one of the few events worth celebrating in American history took place on June 25, 1876, when Lakota, Northern Cheyenne, and Arapaho, led by Crazy Horse and Chief Gall, annihilated a unit of the 7th Cavalry under the command of Lt. Col. George Armstrong Custer."

 

[georgephillip]

Well since you fancy yourself the expert, would you please tell ME what I AM on American political spectrum.

I would guess you qualify as a neoliberal "New Democrat" in the mold of Clinton, Obama, and Biden.

Since all economies are planned economies, do you prefer democratic or corporate planning?

 

[georgephillip]

Laughing my ass off at your pathetic excuses for Putin's giant failures. Thanks.

What's the latest from Bakhmut?

Wagner Group?

 

[georgephillip]

Yes, I noticed that the US was demanding they embrace Neo Liberalism if they wanted US help. Does seem like it is true. Right now money is all that matters...and Ukraine should not have allowed them to buy up their farmland. They are buying up all farmland they can get together with their rights to a lot of people's water. Absolutely essential things.

 

[georgephillip]

Doing what? Efficiently grow food and distribute it for profit?

Sounds kinda evil. Lets have government do that, it's what it does best after all

When you distribute food for a profit, what happens to those who can't afford the price; do they starve? Do their children starve? Food and water are human rights, and any moral distribution should be based on need not profit.

 

[georgephillip]

Self serving Russian claims unsupported by any of the many other journalists who were there.

Why don't you provide a few examples of any "unsupported Russian claims"?

War in Donbas (2014–2022) - Wikipedia

 

[georgephillip]

Still more crazy talk from you. Russia is being beaten by a tactically superior Ukrainian army with 16 Himars.

Where's your evidence for that fantasy.
Which one of those 16 Himars fired on Zaporizhzhia?