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It already has. My country toThe cure is already worse than the disease. This could ruin every independent restaurant and bar owner in the country, and most small businesses.ne of my best friends going from $1000-$1500 a day during tourist season and having 8-10 employees. All went to Zero pesos nearly overnight.I think the stats are about 145,000 un-under employed at the moment. Tiny in # but enormous in a "shithole" with only about 1.6 million working aged adults.
That's why we had chicken pox and measles parties and shit 50-60 years ago. Oddly I never caught either.....I did get chicken pox from a friend of mines son when I was about 20. Damn near killed me !
I put a metal roof on my house because the very sight of "shinglez" scarez the shit outa me.
No you don't. Goddamn people....You WANT children to get chicken pox...
No you don't. Goddamn people....
There was no new information in your embarrassingly wrongheaded post. You're wrong. Simple as that.No you don't. Goddamn people....
Reread what you quoted...the whole post, pisshead, for COMPREHENSION!
Translation: you skimmed the post, comprehended nothing, squealed in ignorant outrage, and vomited on the keyboard.There was no new information in your embarrassingly wrongheaded post. You're wrong. Simple as that.No you don't. Goddamn people....
Reread what you quoted...the whole post, pisshead, for COMPREHENSION!
Sorry to hear. I had a buddy with a muffler shop(one man band) who checked himself out a lil over a week agoIt already has. My country toThe cure is already worse than the disease. This could ruin every independent restaurant and bar owner in the country, and most small businesses.
My brother's former co-worker hung himself last night.
I knew it. I just knew it. This article explains a point that I have seen made in brief comments by other experts. The author is a medical scholar at an Ivy League institution. The author recommends only requiring isolation for the elderly and the medically ill, and warns that if we continue with blanket social-distancing measures, we could see another major outbreak because we are not allowing our population to develop herd immunity. Here is an excerpt from the article:
"The only way we are going to beat COVID-19 is by developing something called “herd immunity.” Herd immunity basically means that once a certain percentage of the population develops immunity to a virus, the rest of the population will also be protected. That percentage varies, but is often around 60-70 percent. This is why we don’t need to vaccinate 100 percent of people to eradicate or severely limit the spread of infectious diseases (e.g., polio, smallpox, and measles). . . .
"In the meantime, we are being told to quarantine as much as possible so the medical system can deal with the many people who become infected. Simple, right? Unfortunately, it’s more complicated than this.
"What the media and policymakers are not telling us is that the longer we delay the development of herd immunity, the more elderly or high-risk people will become infected and die, even if we were to maintain the quarantine indefinitely. Why is this the case?
"The reason is that only young and healthy people contribute to herd immunity. Elderly and medically ill people generally do not contribute to herd immunity because their immune systems are not strong enough to develop an immune response."
Why Social Distancing Might Actually Result In More Coronavirus Deaths
What the media and policymakers are not telling us is that the longer we delay the development of herd immunity, the more high-risk people will die.thefederalist.com
This may be one of our rare disagreements. I'm for opening things up sooner rather than later but with reasonable mitigation measures. Otherwise those bars and restaurants will be closed permanently. Big crowds still off-limits, no stadium baseball fans, no live concerts, no golf spectators, stores open with limited number of shoppers, etc.True, but they are only contagious for a week or two, not forever. If the virus slows the number of new cases should be small. Don't let the "perfect" be the enemy of the "good". We need to get back to work, safely.The cure is already worse than the disease. This could ruin every independent restaurant and bar owner in the country, and most small businesses.
Could restaurants and bars open up considering the "social distancing"? IMHO that 6' space is just too big to be practical. So how about if owners check patron's temperatures before allowing them to be seated??
That doesn't help for those who are asymptomatic. They may be carrying it around without the knowledge they do have it because of no signs of illness.
They say that six feet is the minimum safety distance. I don't know how a bar can stay in business with customers that far away from each other. In a restaurant, that would be at least two empty tables away.
If you are contagious for one day, go into a crowded bar and contaminate 30 people, all it took was that one person. The two key elements to having any semblance of immediate normalcy are N-95 masks for all the public, and hand sanitizer everywhere you go. The problem is that manufacturing enough of those masks for most Americans is a long way off.
They instituted limit numbers on buildings in my state. I went shopping just before that was enacted. But I talked with a friend who's wife went shopping, and she said it was miserable. She can only stand and walk for a certain amount of time before she has to sit down to give her back a rest. They made her stand in line for a half hour before it was her turn. I have the same back problems, so I can relate.
I don't know if I could stand there that long before getting into the store. I may have to leave the line, sit in my car for 15 minutes, and then try again. What should happen is that the stores should do the shopping for you, and you only go to the checkout to pay for your groceries. Either that or have a person outside with a wi-fi credit card machine to accept payment. I went to a Chic-Fil-A last week, and that's how they did it.
I'm not disagreeing, but we can get herd immunity with a flat curve instead of a very steep curve when 2.2m die.
Trump won't keep us home any longer than necessary. He's already telling the medical experts that he doesn't want the cure to be worse than the disease. I saw Dr. Fauci say that we could have multiple peaks to push back on Trump's optimism. This could get good in about 2 or 3 weeks, the MSM will go nuts when Trump encourages businesses to open while considering mitigation measures, and governors need to step up and agree or disagree.
They instituted limit numbers on buildings in my state. I went shopping just before that was enacted. But I talked with a friend who's wife went shopping, and she said it was miserable. She can only stand and walk for a certain amount of time before she has to sit down to give her back a rest. They made her stand in line for a half hour before it was her turn. I have the same back problems, so I can relate.
I don't know if I could stand there that long before getting into the store. I may have to leave the line, sit in my car for 15 minutes, and then try again. What should happen is that the stores should do the shopping for you, and you only go to the checkout to pay for your groceries. Either that or have a person outside with a wi-fi credit card machine to accept payment. I went to a Chic-Fil-A last week, and that's how they did it.
Many stores offer just that in this area.
The cure is already worse than the disease. This could ruin every independent restaurant and bar owner in the country, and most small businesses.
True, but they are only contagious for a week or two, not forever. If the virus slows the number of new cases should be small. Don't let the "perfect" be the enemy of the "good". We need to get back to work, safely.The cure is already worse than the disease. This could ruin every independent restaurant and bar owner in the country, and most small businesses.
Could restaurants and bars open up considering the "social distancing"? IMHO that 6' space is just too big to be practical. So how about if owners check patron's temperatures before allowing them to be seated??
That doesn't help for those who are asymptomatic. They may be carrying it around without the knowledge they do have it because of no signs of illness.
They say that six feet is the minimum safety distance. I don't know how a bar can stay in business with customers that far away from each other. In a restaurant, that would be at least two empty tables away.
If you are contagious for one day, go into a crowded bar and contaminate 30 people, all it took was that one person. The two key elements to having any semblance of immediate normalcy are N-95 masks for all the public, and hand sanitizer everywhere you go. The problem is that manufacturing enough of those masks for most Americans is a long way off.
Exactly. Give it to everybody now and get it over with.That's why we had chicken pox and measles parties and shit 50-60 years ago.
I do, and it was embarrassing wrong and exactly the ignorant, incorrect message scientists have battled for decades. You s.eem not to understand that your silly fetishes and gut feelings are not complicated or hard to understand.you do not understand the post you quoted
True, but they are only contagious for a week or two, not forever. If the virus slows the number of new cases should be small. Don't let the "perfect" be the enemy of the "good". We need to get back to work, safely.The cure is already worse than the disease. This could ruin every independent restaurant and bar owner in the country, and most small businesses.
Could restaurants and bars open up considering the "social distancing"? IMHO that 6' space is just too big to be practical. So how about if owners check patron's temperatures before allowing them to be seated??
That doesn't help for those who are asymptomatic. They may be carrying it around without the knowledge they do have it because of no signs of illness.
They say that six feet is the minimum safety distance. I don't know how a bar can stay in business with customers that far away from each other. In a restaurant, that would be at least two empty tables away.
If you are contagious for one day, go into a crowded bar and contaminate 30 people, all it took was that one person. The two key elements to having any semblance of immediate normalcy are N-95 masks for all the public, and hand sanitizer everywhere you go. The problem is that manufacturing enough of those masks for most Americans is a long way off.
There have actually been test done which show that droplets, especially the much smaller ones, can spread as much as 27 feet from the person. But, at 27 feet, the risk of infection is much less than at 6 feet.
The social distancing is to keep our systems from being overwhelmed. There are only so many ICU bed in the US. Once we have exceeded our resources, people (especially the elderly) will be left to die. It sounds heartless, but it is actually triage.
