Jesus: Why is He so offensive to others?

[Skull Pilot]

If religious organizations didn't ask for money I might believe that but there is not one out there that doesn't ask for money.

Faith based organization including churches take in over 300 billion a year in the US alone.

lol so what? You think that's a lot? Most churches, big and small, provide services, have to pay for buildings, literature, stock food banks, whatever, and it's illegal for the govt. to give them anything, unlike corporation welfare, La Raza scams, FEMA scams, ad nauseam. Your hatred of Da Xians is obviously based on some emotional neuroses, not any intellectualism on your part, as is the case with most of the 'new atheist' whining about Da Evul Xians.

Not all faith based businesses are churches.

And so what if they have buildings to take care of every other business does as well. The real question is why shouldn't the business of religion get taxed like any other

And I don't hate Christians or any other religious person I don;t know where you got that. Probably some kind of persecution complex.

I have done nothing but say JC was the greatest venture capitalist of all times who if he hadn't been killed by the power structure he threatened would have lived to see his empire become one of the richest most successful business models that ever existed.

If anyone could get people to hand them money and work for them for free like JC did that person would make Bill Gates look like a pauper

That what you take away from Jesus' teachings is that he is a venture capitalist says a lot about you. Jesus wouldn't approve.

Jesus is dead so his approval or disapproval is moot.

You are a fake christian aren't you

Not a christian at all

You couldn't figure that out?

 

[BulletProof]

Yes they should get taxed. Charities are a business like any other. No special tax status is needed if they want to pay no taxes all they have to do is show zero profit at the end of every fiscal year like any other business.

Every charity shows zero profit, by claiming to be a charity. Do you want them to write a zero on piece of paper, for you? Also, charities are not businesses. They don't sell anything and have no earnings. Do you even know what a charity is?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Yes they should get taxed. Charities are a business like any other. No special tax status is needed if they want to pay no taxes all they have to do is show zero profit at the end of every fiscal year like any other business.

Every charity shows zero profit, by claiming to be a charity. Do you want them to write a zero on piece of paper, for you? Also, charities are not businesses. They don't sell anything and have no earnings. Do you even know what a charity is?

No they don't. They can carry money from year to year and not get taxed on it.

When you carry money into the next year that is called profit.

And a charity's revenue is it's donations.

 

[WheelieAddict]

lol so what? You think that's a lot? Most churches, big and small, provide services, have to pay for buildings, literature, stock food banks, whatever, and it's illegal for the govt. to give them anything, unlike corporation welfare, La Raza scams, FEMA scams, ad nauseam. Your hatred of Da Xians is obviously based on some emotional neuroses, not any intellectualism on your part, as is the case with most of the 'new atheist' whining about Da Evul Xians.

Not all faith based businesses are churches.

And so what if they have buildings to take care of every other business does as well. The real question is why shouldn't the business of religion get taxed like any other

And I don't hate Christians or any other religious person I don;t know where you got that. Probably some kind of persecution complex.

I have done nothing but say JC was the greatest venture capitalist of all times who if he hadn't been killed by the power structure he threatened would have lived to see his empire become one of the richest most successful business models that ever existed.

If anyone could get people to hand them money and work for them for free like JC did that person would make Bill Gates look like a pauper

That what you take away from Jesus' teachings is that he is a venture capitalist says a lot about you. Jesus wouldn't approve.

Jesus is dead so his approval or disapproval is moot.

You are a fake christian aren't you

Not a christian at all

You couldn't figure that out?

Nope I messed up thought you were someone else. Sorry about that, apologies

 

[Windparadox]

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[WheelieAddict]

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Well I don't really question that. I don't think God is going to like some of the religions humans set up in his name. I'm skipping those.

 

[BulletProof]

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The Bible teaches neither eternal Hell or unconditional love. But, thank you for pointing out the absurdity of popular Evangelical belief.

 

[danielpalos]

Some claim Jesus the Christ neglected to apply for the proper preacher's license. And, was "convicted of practicing without a license."

 

[hobelim]

Some claim Jesus the Christ neglected to apply for the proper preacher's license. And, was "convicted of practicing without a license."

thats pretty much true. He was revealing the secrets of the law openly against the tradition of keeping the teaching secret, only for the officially initiated, and hidden from the general population.

Thats why they said, "where did he get this teaching?", "who gave you the authority", not because it was unknown but because it was supposed to be kept secret, especially from "sinners" like Jesus.


When these men have undergone, with blamelessness of conduct, a two year preparation in the fundamentals of the community, they shall be segregated as especially sacred among the formal members of the community. Any knowledge which the expositor of the law may posses but which may have to remain arcane to the ordinary layman, he shall not keep hidden from them; for in their case there need be no fear that it might induce apostasy.



"No one is to engage in discussion or disputation with men of ill repute; and in the company of froward men everyone is to abstain from talk about (keep hidden) the meaning of the Law [Torah]."





Dead sea scrolls, Manual of Discipline

 

[Picaro]

Some claim Jesus the Christ neglected to apply for the proper preacher's license. And, was "convicted of practicing without a license."

thats pretty much true. He was revealing the secrets of the law openly against the tradition of keeping the teaching secret, only for the officially initiated, and hidden from the general population.

Thats why they said, "where did he get this teaching?", "who gave you the authority", not because it was unknown but because it was supposed to be kept secret, especially from "sinners" like Jesus.


When these men have undergone, with blamelessness of conduct, a two year preparation in the fundamentals of the community, they shall be segregated as especially sacred among the formal members of the community. Any knowledge which the expositor of the law may posses but which may have to remain arcane to the ordinary layman, he shall not keep hidden from them; for in their case there need be no fear that it might induce apostasy.



"No one is to engage in discussion or disputation with men of ill repute; and in the company of froward men everyone is to abstain from talk about (keep hidden) the meaning of the Law [Torah]."





Dead sea scrolls, Manual of Discipline

Kudos for knowing that most Jewish theology was kept a secret from the public, and transmitted orally between priests and acolytes up to those times. Few people seem to know that, and think there the Jewish versions of bible all over the place and anybody could just buy one or something. they had to change a lot after the fall of the Second Temple, and to compete with Christianity later.

Owning Bibles was also rare up until the invention of the printing press as well because of the high expense of even the cheapest copies.

 

[Windparadox]

Well I don't really question that. I don't think God is going to like some of the religions humans set up in his name. I'm skipping those.

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Just so ya know, it shouldn't be taken literally. It's more humorously "ironic" than a religious axiom.

 

[Taz]

People who get nailed to wood in a diaper always offend my sense of decorum.

 

[Skull Pilot]

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The Bible teaches neither eternal Hell or unconditional love. But, thank you for pointing out the absurdity of popular Evangelical belief.

FYI you quoted that wrong
I did not post that

 

[BulletProof]

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The Bible teaches neither eternal Hell or unconditional love. But, thank you for pointing out the absurdity of popular Evangelical belief.

FYI you quoted that wrong
I did not post that

Sorry, I hate this forum's quoting system.

 

[RWNJ]

A while ago, it was OK to say God, but not Jesus.

Of course now, even God is frowned up. But it seems the name Jesus really riles people up. Many of those that are not believers of particularly the Christian faith seem to want to mock it and be sacrilegious

You see it everywhere, with celebrities, in music.

So, why do you think particularly Jesus, and Christianity in general, gets people so worked up?

It is quite simple. Gods word convicts people of their sin. They are faced with the fact that they are not good enough in Gods eyes. That no matter what they do they can never make it to heaven on their own. They can't stand this. So they lash out. Their sinful pride will not allow then to accept Gods truth. So they hate Him. And because they hate Him, they hate Christians also. They love their sin more than they love God. That is why they will never repent.

 

[Bonzi]

People who get nailed to wood in a diaper always offend my sense of decorum.

Do you believe in being kind?

 

[Taz]

People who get nailed to wood in a diaper always offend my sense of decorum.

Do you believe in being kind?

When appropriate, yes.

 

[Bonzi]

People who get nailed to wood in a diaper always offend my sense of decorum.

Do you believe in being kind?

When appropriate, yes.

Trying to purposefully offend people for no reason ....

 

[Taz]

People who get nailed to wood in a diaper always offend my sense of decorum.

Do you believe in being kind?

When appropriate, yes.

Trying to purposefully offend people for no reason ....

Jesus was nailed to wood in a diaper. The truth offends you?

 

[hobelim]

People who get nailed to wood in a diaper always offend my sense of decorum.

Do you believe in being kind?

When appropriate, yes.

Trying to purposefully offend people for no reason ....

Jesus was nailed to wood in a diaper. The truth offends you?

The truth is that he was crucified completely naked.

Remember? they gambled over who would get his clothes.

You really need to come up with some new material..