Jewish Donors Warn Obama on Israel

[Gadawg73]

By LAURA MECKLER
Jewish donors and fund-raisers are warning the Obama re-election campaign that the president is at risk of losing financial support because of concerns about his handling of Israel.

The complaints began early in President Barack Obama's term, centered on a perception that Mr. Obama has been too tough on Israel.

Some Jewish donors say Mr. Obama has pushed Israeli leaders too hard to halt construction of housing settlements in disputed territory, a longstanding element of U.S. policy. Some also worry that Mr. Obama is putting more pressure on the Israelis than the Palestinians to enter peace negotiations, and say they are disappointed Mr. Obama has not visited Israel yet.

One top Democratic fund-raiser, Miami developer Michael Adler, said he urged Obama campaign manager Jim Messina to be "extremely proactive" in countering the perception in the Jewish community that Mr. Obama is too critical of Israel.

Jewish Donors Warn Obama on Israel - WSJ.com

Israel is an intrigal part of our strategic and yes, national security.
Obama is being foolish once again. He has interfered in the affairs of a soveriegn nation.
Obama and his people lack the understanding of one inescapable fact. That is, most of the Arab world refuses to recognize Israel's right to exist.
Should Israel surrender territories to pre-1967, Israel would be ,in the opinion of Israeli PM Netanyahu, "Indefensible".
I find it remarkable that no other Arab nation has extended a hand to the Palestinains and offered them a home in one of their countries. Nor do the rich Arab oil producing countries offer the Palestinians and financial assistance. Hmmmm.
I believe this is a result of racial or cultural bigotry on the part of Arabs toward Palestinians.

Arabs and Persians treat Palestinians like southern red necks treat blacks. The Palestinians are the N of the Arab world.
They do not want them. You hit it right on the nail.

 

[Uncensored2008]

even white rats learn.

But you'll vote to reelect Obama, showing that you don't learn.

 

[Sunni Man]

How is the terrorist state of Israel vital to our national security?

Strategically, Israel has done zero for America.

In reality, Israel is the root cause of the U.S. problems in the ME

Again, Israel is not our 51st.

And we need to distance ourselves from this racist apartheid nation.

 

[Gadawg73]

How is the terrorist state of Israel vital to our national security?

Strategically, Israel has done zero for America.

In reality, Israel is the root cause of the U.S. problems in the ME

Again, Israel is not our 51st.

And we need to distance ourselves from this racist apartheid nation.

Read my post.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Better then being used by your parents as a walking bomb don't you think?

The Palestinians stopped suicide bombing years ago.

You need to update your propaganda.

List of Palestinian suicide attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The first source I found showed one from April 2008, that's a little too recent for me to say it's stopped.

Israeli Deaths
2002 237
2003 146
2004 97
2005 33
2006 15
2007 3
2008 1

Childrens deaths
2006
Israeli 2
Palestinian 139

2007
Israeli 1
Palestinian 68

2008
Israeli 4
Palestinian 160

2009
Israeli 1
Palestinian 295

2010
Israeli 0
Palestinian 15

2011
Israeli 0
Palestinian 6

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Chris Whitman, a US citizens studying at Hebrew University, was filming mass protests that take place every Friday in opposition to illegal Israeli land confiscations. Last Friday's demonstration were larger than normal due to annual remembrances of the 1948 Palestinian exodus, al Nakba.

"The 1948 Palestinian exodus (Arabic: الهجرة الفلسطينية*, al-Hijra al-Filasṭīnīya), also known as Nakba (Arabic: النكبة*, an-Nakbah), meaning the 'disaster', 'catastrophe', or "cataclysm",[1] occurred when approximately 725,000 Palestinian Arabs left, fled or were expelled from their homes, during the 1948 Arab-Israeli War and the Civil War that preceded it.[2]

"The exact number of actual refugees is a matter of dispute, depending upon the source. [3]

"Although some authors, such as Ilan Pappé, describe this exodus a forced deportation or ethnic cleansing,[4][3] others see it from a different perspective. Mark Tessler, in his History of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, says, 'The reasons for this mass exodus....were and to some extent remain the subject of fundamental disagreement between Arabs and Israelis.'

"He uses the words of UN mediator Bernadotte, who said that the Palestinians became refugees 'in response to 'the hazards and strategy of the armed conflict' swirling around them.'"[5]"

Israeli Troops Shoot U.S. Student in Head with High-Velocity Tear Gas Canister

This so-called "Nakba" or "mass exodus" of 700,000 arabs which is falsely depicted as "ethnic cleansing" or with other derogatory propaganda terms today.....was simply the result of a year-long war between the Arabs and the Israelis....a war started by the Arabs....and won by the Israelis....

In 1947, the British government withdrew from the Mandate of Palestine, stating it was unable to arrive at a solution acceptable to both Arabs and Jews.[68] The newly created United Nations approved the Partition Plan for Palestine (United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181) on November 29, 1947, which sought to divide the country into two states—one Arab and one Jewish. Jerusalem was to be designated an international city—a corpus separatum—administered by the UN.[69]

The Jewish community accepted the plan,[70] but the Arab League and Arab Higher Committee rejected it.[71] On December 1, 1947, the Arab Higher Committee proclaimed a three-day strike, and Arab bands began attacking Jewish targets.[72] Jews were initially on the defensive as civil war broke out, but they gradually moved onto the offensive.[73] The Palestinian Arab economy collapsed and 250,000 Palestinian-Arabs fled or were expelled.[74]

On May 14, 1948, the day before the expiration of the British Mandate, the Jewish Agency proclaimed independence, naming the country Israel.[75] The following day, the armies of four Arab countries—Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq—attacked Israel, launching the 1948 Arab–Israeli War;[76][77] Saudi Arabia sent a military contingent to operate under Egyptian command; Yemen declared war but did not take military action.[78] After a year of fighting, a ceasefire was declared and temporary borders, known as the Green Line, were established.[79] Jordan annexed what became known as the West Bank and East Jerusalem, and Egypt took control of the Gaza Strip. About 700,000 Palestinian refugees were expelled or fled the country during the conflict.

Israel was accepted as a member of the United Nations by majority vote on May 11, 1949.[

Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Al Nakba was a culmination of a settler process whose original aim has not changed in over a hundred years, namely to transfer the indigenous Arabs of Palestine and replace them with Zionist Jews from other countries.

In December of 1947, Palestinians comprised two-thirds of the population (down from 90% at the beginning of the British Mandate in 1923)

"At the beginning of the cleansing operations, Palestinians (also) owned about 97% of the land. As a result of the ethnic cleansing operations, 531 Palestinian villages were erased; more than 86% of the indigenous Palestinian population was destroyed, expelled, or became displaced.

"Thus only 14-15% of the indigenous Palestinian population (about 130,000 * 150,000) remained in their homeland, while the rest became displaced and homeless refugees."

Khalil Nakhleh: Al Nakba of 1948

At the very least you should ask what moral authority the British or the UN had to impose a Jewish state upon a people that was two-thirds non-Jewish in 1947.

War's a bitch doncha know...

In your referenced article the guy is writing the typical sob story about the arab version of "al nakba"....he very conveniently danced around the most important fact....that of the Arab-Israeli WAR.....a civil WAR begun by the Arabs who chose physical conflict over settling matters peaceably around the establishment of two states recommended by the UN.....WAR always results in displacement and territorial control.....if you ask me someone who leaves out such a pertinent fact with regard to "al nakba" is not exactly an unbiased writer....and i would say that he's attempting to warp and rewrite history....

During the 1948 Palestine War, an estimated 700,000 Palestinians were expelled or fled, and hundreds of Palestinian villages were depopulated and destroyed.[2][3] The vast majority of Palestinian refugees, both those outside the 1949 armistice lines at the war's conclusion and those internally displaced, were barred by the newly declared state of Israel from returning to their homes or reclaiming their property.[2][3]

Nakba Day - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The 1948 Arab–Israeli War, known by Israelis as the War of Independence (Hebrew: מלחמת העצמאות or מלחמת הקוממיות*, Milkhemet Ha'atzma'ut or Milkhemet Hakomemmiyut) or War of Liberation (Hebrew: מלחמת השחרור*, Milkhemet Hashikhrur) – was the first in a series of wars fought between the State of Israel and its Arab neighbours in the long-running Arab-Israeli conflict.

The war commenced upon the termination of the British Mandate of Palestine and the Israeli declaration of independence on 15 May 1948, following a period of civil war in 1947–1948. The fighting took place mostly on the former territory of the British Mandate and for a short time also in the Sinai Peninsula and southern Lebanon.[11] Much of what Arabs refer to as The Catastrophe (Arabic: النكبة*, al-Nakba) occurred amidst this war.

1948 Arab

 

[Mr. Shaman]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT-ziPKg6yE]YouTube - ‪Refuseniks and Israeli Soldiers speak out 1/4‬‏[/ame]​

 

[P F Tinmore]

This so-called "Nakba" or "mass exodus" of 700,000 arabs which is falsely depicted as "ethnic cleansing" or with other derogatory propaganda terms today.....was simply the result of a year-long war between the Arabs and the Israelis....a war started by the Arabs....and won by the Israelis....

Al Nakba was a culmination of a settler process whose original aim has not changed in over a hundred years, namely to transfer the indigenous Arabs of Palestine and replace them with Zionist Jews from other countries.

In December of 1947, Palestinians comprised two-thirds of the population (down from 90% at the beginning of the British Mandate in 1923)

"At the beginning of the cleansing operations, Palestinians (also) owned about 97% of the land. As a result of the ethnic cleansing operations, 531 Palestinian villages were erased; more than 86% of the indigenous Palestinian population was destroyed, expelled, or became displaced.

"Thus only 14-15% of the indigenous Palestinian population (about 130,000 * 150,000) remained in their homeland, while the rest became displaced and homeless refugees."

Khalil Nakhleh: Al Nakba of 1948

At the very least you should ask what moral authority the British or the UN had to impose a Jewish state upon a people that was two-thirds non-Jewish in 1947.

War's a bitch doncha know...

In your referenced article the guy is writing the typical sob story about the arab version of "al nakba"....he very conveniently danced around the most important fact....that of the Arab-Israeli WAR.....a civil WAR begun by the Arabs who chose physical conflict over settling matters peaceably around the establishment of two states recommended by the UN.....WAR always results in displacement and territorial control.....if you ask me someone who leaves out such a pertinent fact with regard to "al nakba" is not exactly an unbiased writer....and i would say that he's attempting to warp and rewrite history....

During the 1948 Palestine War, an estimated 700,000 Palestinians were expelled or fled, and hundreds of Palestinian villages were depopulated and destroyed.[2][3] The vast majority of Palestinian refugees, both those outside the 1949 armistice lines at the war's conclusion and those internally displaced, were barred by the newly declared state of Israel from returning to their homes or reclaiming their property.[2][3]

Nakba Day - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The 1948 Arab–Israeli War, known by Israelis as the War of Independence (Hebrew: מלחמת העצמאות or מלחמת הקוממיות*, Milkhemet Ha'atzma'ut or Milkhemet Hakomemmiyut) or War of Liberation (Hebrew: מלחמת השחרור*, Milkhemet Hashikhrur) – was the first in a series of wars fought between the State of Israel and its Arab neighbours in the long-running Arab-Israeli conflict.

The war commenced upon the termination of the British Mandate of Palestine and the Israeli declaration of independence on 15 May 1948, following a period of civil war in 1947–1948. The fighting took place mostly on the former territory of the British Mandate and for a short time also in the Sinai Peninsula and southern Lebanon.[11] Much of what Arabs refer to as The Catastrophe (Arabic: النكبة*, al-Nakba) occurred amidst this war.

1948 Arab

...a civil WAR begun by the Arabs who chose physical conflict over settling matters peaceably...

The term civil war was first coined by an Israeli. It was not a civil war. It was not Palestinian V Palestinian. It was Palestinian V foreigners who went to Palestine with the stated goal of taking over their country. The foreigners were the aggressors.

 

[Dr.Drock]

The Palestinians stopped suicide bombing years ago.

You need to update your propaganda.

List of Palestinian suicide attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The first source I found showed one from April 2008, that's a little too recent for me to say it's stopped.

Israeli Deaths
2002 237
2003 146
2004 97
2005 33
2006 15
2007 3
2008 1

Childrens deaths
2006
Israeli 2
Palestinian 139

2007
Israeli 1
Palestinian 68

2008
Israeli 4
Palestinian 160

2009
Israeli 1
Palestinian 295

2010
Israeli 0
Palestinian 15

2011
Israeli 0
Palestinian 6

I agree, Israel is responsible for killing more innocent people by far than the other side. But i don't think it's because the other side is morally better, they just aren't armed with our tax dollars and tax dollar paid for weapons.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

The term civil war was first coined by an Israeli. It was not a civil war. It was not Palestinian V Palestinian. It was Palestinian V foreigners who went to Palestine with the stated goal of taking over their country. The foreigners were the aggressors.

jews and arabs had been co-habiting in the area for years and years....other foreign jews came home to the land of their forefathers and the land of their religious history after the holocaust....with the permission of the United Nations after WWII....these were people seeking a safe home after being slaughtered by the millions in Europe.....i would hardly call them "aggressors"....

 

[Uncensored2008]

Israeli Deaths
2002 237
2003 146
2004 97
2005 33
2006 15
2007 3
2008 1

Childrens deaths
2006
Israeli 2
Palestinian 139

2007
Israeli 1
Palestinian 68

2008
Israeli 4
Palestinian 160

2009
Israeli 1
Palestinian 295

2010
Israeli 0
Palestinian 15

2011
Israeli 0
Palestinian 6

Source: Al Qaeda....

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israeli Deaths
2002 237
2003 146
2004 97
2005 33
2006 15
2007 3
2008 1

Childrens deaths
2006
Israeli 2
Palestinian 139

2007
Israeli 1
Palestinian 68

2008
Israeli 4
Palestinian 160

2009
Israeli 1
Palestinian 295

2010
Israeli 0
Palestinian 15

2011
Israeli 0
Palestinian 6

Source: Al Qaeda....

Sorry

Remember These Children

Sources: Every effort has been made to obtain accurate, verifiable data for this publication by comparing reports from a number of major news agencies, national and local media, human rights organizations and official sources, including:
Addameer: Prisoner’s Rights and Support Group
B’Tselem: the Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories
Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Jerusalem Media and Communications Center
LAW: the Palestinian Society for the Protection of Human Rights and the Environment
Palestinian Center for Human Rights
Palestinian State Information Service

 

[Mr. Shaman]

List of Palestinian suicide attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The first source I found showed one from April 2008, that's a little too recent for me to say it's stopped.

Israeli Deaths
2002 237
2003 146
2004 97
2005 33
2006 15
2007 3
2008 1

Childrens deaths
2006
Israeli 2
Palestinian 139

2007
Israeli 1
Palestinian 68

2008
Israeli 4
Palestinian 160

2009
Israeli 1
Palestinian 295

2010
Israeli 0
Palestinian 15

2011
Israeli 0
Palestinian 6

I agree, Israel is responsible for killing more innocent people by far than the other side. But i don't think it's because the other side is morally better, they just aren't armed with our tax dollars and tax dollar paid for weapons.

No doubt.....just the way it was originally-designed.....​

"The outbreak of World War I in 1914 and the Ottoman Empire’s alliance with Germany gave Britain and other imperial powers new opportunities to help themselves to the region’s riches. Britain and Russia reached a new agreement in 1915, dividing up Iran and Turkey. Britain and France likewise made plans to divvy up much of the Middle East between them once the war was won.

At the same time, Britain encouraged Arab revolts against the Ottoman Empire with the promise that victory would lead to a united Arab nation, reaching from the Red Sea to the Persian Gulf. And in November 1917, British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour wrote to the Zionist leader Lord Rothschild promising British government support for "the establishment in Palestine of a National Home for the Jewish People." (The Zionist movement, which originated in Europe, sought creation of a Jewish state.)

The British government had promised the same country to two nations.

At the war’s end, private interests hopeful of exploiting the region’s oil urged their governments to ignore war-time promises to Arab leaders. A variety of small, divided Arab states would be much easier to maneuver into oil deals than a large, independent Arab republic. The European powers agreed. France assumed control of Syria and Lebanon. Britain took Palestine and Mesopotamia. London granted local control to kings and sheiks favorable to British interests. These arrangements were ratified by the League of Nations; Britain’s Palestinian colony was officially a League "Mandate."

The Western World's Oil-Colony​

 

[Sunni Man]

The term civil war was first coined by an Israeli. It was not a civil war. It was not Palestinian V Palestinian. It was Palestinian V foreigners who went to Palestine with the stated goal of taking over their country. The foreigners were the aggressors.

jews and arabs had been co-habiting in the area for years and years....other foreign jews came home to the land of their forefathers and the land of their religious history after the holocaust....with the permission of the United Nations after WWII....these were people seeking a safe home after being slaughtered by the millions in Europe.....i would hardly call them "aggressors"....

After being brutalized by the Nazis in europe.

The Jewish people took on the personality of their former persecutors

So that now the entire nation of Israel is mentally debilitated by the Stockholm Syndrome.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

The term civil war was first coined by an Israeli. It was not a civil war. It was not Palestinian V Palestinian. It was Palestinian V foreigners who went to Palestine with the stated goal of taking over their country. The foreigners were the aggressors.

jews and arabs had been co-habiting in the area for years and years....other foreign jews came home to the land of their forefathers and the land of their religious history after the holocaust....with the permission of the United Nations after WWII....these were people seeking a safe home after being slaughtered by the millions in Europe.....i would hardly call them "aggressors"....

After being brutalized by the Nazis in europe.

The Jewish people took on the personality of their former persecutors

So that now the entire nation of Israel is mentally debilitated by the Stockholm Syndrome.

you don't have to prove it over and over again....we already know you hate jews....and that you are a racial/religious bigot....

 

[WillowTree]

jews and arabs had been co-habiting in the area for years and years....other foreign jews came home to the land of their forefathers and the land of their religious history after the holocaust....with the permission of the United Nations after WWII....these were people seeking a safe home after being slaughtered by the millions in Europe.....i would hardly call them "aggressors"....

After being brutalized by the Nazis in europe.

The Jewish people took on the personality of their former persecutors

So that now the entire nation of Israel is mentally debilitated by the Stockholm Syndrome.

you don't have to prove it over and over again....we already know you hate jews....and that you are a racial/religious bigot....

Not to mention a fucking idiot!

 

[Contessa_Sharra]

By LAURA MECKLER
Jewish donors and fund-raisers are warning the Obama re-election campaign that the president is at risk of losing financial support because of concerns about his handling of Israel.

The complaints began early in President Barack Obama's term, centered on a perception that Mr. Obama has been too tough on Israel.

Some Jewish donors say Mr. Obama has pushed Israeli leaders too hard to halt construction of housing settlements in disputed territory, a longstanding element of U.S. policy. Some also worry that Mr. Obama is putting more pressure on the Israelis than the Palestinians to enter peace negotiations, and say they are disappointed Mr. Obama has not visited Israel yet.

One top Democratic fund-raiser, Miami developer Michael Adler, said he urged Obama campaign manager Jim Messina to be "extremely proactive" in countering the perception in the Jewish community that Mr. Obama is too critical of Israel.

Jewish Donors Warn Obama on Israel - WSJ.com

The settlers get to STEAL other people's land and homes, on US Gov teat, but US Gov is OK with people in the US being homeless ---GO FIGURE!!!

 

[daveman]

By LAURA MECKLER
Jewish donors and fund-raisers are warning the Obama re-election campaign that the president is at risk of losing financial support because of concerns about his handling of Israel.

The complaints began early in President Barack Obama's term, centered on a perception that Mr. Obama has been too tough on Israel.

Some Jewish donors say Mr. Obama has pushed Israeli leaders too hard to halt construction of housing settlements in disputed territory, a longstanding element of U.S. policy. Some also worry that Mr. Obama is putting more pressure on the Israelis than the Palestinians to enter peace negotiations, and say they are disappointed Mr. Obama has not visited Israel yet.

One top Democratic fund-raiser, Miami developer Michael Adler, said he urged Obama campaign manager Jim Messina to be "extremely proactive" in countering the perception in the Jewish community that Mr. Obama is too critical of Israel.

Jewish Donors Warn Obama on Israel - WSJ.com

The settlers get to STEAL other people's land and homes, on US Gov teat, but US Gov is OK with people in the US being homeless ---GO FIGURE!!!

How many homeless people have you taken in?

 

[American Cowboy]

By LAURA MECKLER
Jewish donors and fund-raisers are warning the Obama re-election campaign that the president is at risk of losing financial support because of concerns about his handling of Israel.

The complaints began early in President Barack Obama's term, centered on a perception that Mr. Obama has been too tough on Israel.

Some Jewish donors say Mr. Obama has pushed Israeli leaders too hard to halt construction of housing settlements in disputed territory, a longstanding element of U.S. policy. Some also worry that Mr. Obama is putting more pressure on the Israelis than the Palestinians to enter peace negotiations, and say they are disappointed Mr. Obama has not visited Israel yet.

One top Democratic fund-raiser, Miami developer Michael Adler, said he urged Obama campaign manager Jim Messina to be "extremely proactive" in countering the perception in the Jewish community that Mr. Obama is too critical of Israel.

Jewish Donors Warn Obama on Israel - WSJ.com

The settlers get to STEAL other people's land and homes, on US Gov teat, but US Gov is OK with people in the US being homeless ---GO FIGURE!!!

OK So you are on Team Hamas.

 

[P F Tinmore]

By LAURA MECKLER
Jewish donors and fund-raisers are warning the Obama re-election campaign that the president is at risk of losing financial support because of concerns about his handling of Israel.

The complaints began early in President Barack Obama's term, centered on a perception that Mr. Obama has been too tough on Israel.

Some Jewish donors say Mr. Obama has pushed Israeli leaders too hard to halt construction of housing settlements in disputed territory, a longstanding element of U.S. policy. Some also worry that Mr. Obama is putting more pressure on the Israelis than the Palestinians to enter peace negotiations, and say they are disappointed Mr. Obama has not visited Israel yet.

One top Democratic fund-raiser, Miami developer Michael Adler, said he urged Obama campaign manager Jim Messina to be "extremely proactive" in countering the perception in the Jewish community that Mr. Obama is too critical of Israel.

Jewish Donors Warn Obama on Israel - WSJ.com

The settlers get to STEAL other people's land and homes, on US Gov teat, but US Gov is OK with people in the US being homeless ---GO FIGURE!!!

How many homeless people have you taken in?

About a dozen or so. I haven't been counting.