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You sound like a commie.Gen. GreedHead GrantAfter lying about an African American Congresswoman, John Kelly called the pro- slavery man in charge of trying to break up the USA an "honorable man".
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The South had slavery, the North had sweatshops.
Decade After Decadent Decade, Generation After Degenerate GenerationIf you are judging Lee by the standards of today he's not if you are judging him by the standards of the time he lived in he is. Trying to judge people who lived 150 to 200 years ago by todays standards is pretty dumb.
Self-Righteous Snob-Mob Scumracism is not exclusively southern. much the northeast is racist. philly and bawztun are racist as shit.
Being racist and fighting a civil war in defense of it are really not the same. The South was fierce about their supremacy.
What sparks a war is rarely what the war is actually about.
The vast majority of the South were not fighting for slaves or racism.
Let me guess, the war was about an industrial economy v. agrarian? Thomas Pynchon made fun of that historical ? very well.
War was about a lot of things. Mostly nationalism imo opinion. On both sides.
Or do you believe that hundreds of thousands of northern whites were willing to die for the black man?
Each side, in fact different sides, were fighting for differing reasons. The South fired on Fort Sumter, so the men in the North were inflamed. Not just by Lincoln, by many Northern politicians. Slavery WAS an issue, Northern employers made sure to harp on the freedom of underpaid, overworked, WAGE SLAVES with no safety protections, read Mill Child one day. .
There is nothing outlandish about my father serving in WWII..
Other than the fact that he didn't, and you're just making this shit up so you can lend yourself much-needed credibility that doesn't exist on the facts. What a fucking loser. Imagine being so insecure you have to invent given circumstances just to make your argument credible. What a disappointment.
Because people like you, are using this shit to wage the Culture War TODAY.
The history I learned in a norther public school was that Lee was a national war hero, who fought for his home state and lost.
Not sure what you are referring to, but I am comfortable assuming you are lying.
ANd my point about you doing all you can to avoid serious and honest discuss stands.
You're losing focus. My judgement of that one post was that is was incredibly idiotic.
Your judgment is bullshit. You have poor judgment. After all, you support a Russian puppet. That's the worst fuckin' judgment since you supported invading Iraq.
Slavery was not Lee's motivation, that was clear.
Of fucking course it was! How do you think he became a rich man? By exploiting free labor (aka slavery).
You lefties care. THat's why you keep insisting that the Civil War was about nothing BUT slavery..
Everything about the Civil War has slavery as the common denominator.
States' Rights...to own slaves
The economics...of slave-based economies
Fact is that without free labor, most all those plantation owners in the South wouldn't have been rich (Including Lee). So it was in their economic interests to preserve slavery because that's how they got their wealth. They were also a bunch of overt racists too who thought black people were born to be chattel. Many Conservatives still hold that view today. Like the owner of the Houston Texans who referred to his players as "inmates".
So that you can vilify them, and thus any of their descendants that are not wallowing in guilt.
My point did not require additional credibility beyond the fact that your hatred of the Confederacy is WAY out of proportion for something that happened before your grandfather was born.You are pretending outrage over this to justify what a dick you are to those who disagree with you on this historical issue.
Pretty much all of it. You are a liar and an anti-American asshole.
You dishonest idiocy is noted, and dismissed.My point stands.The history I learned in a norther public school was that Lee was a national war hero, who fought for his home state and lost.
The point was about your hatred being way too strong for something that happened before your grandfather was born.
You are the divisive one here, spreading hatred and trying to turn Americans against each other.
It is absurd for you to pretend that it is not believable that my father served in WWII.
Your hysterics and overly dramatic assertions aside, all you are doing it making excuses for your inability to make any point, without basing it on some form of logical fallacy.Also, you are an asshole. FUck you.
/——/ you aren’t well read. Believe what you want but here is some data. I doubt you’ll do more than scan it. Plantation owners were land rich but not necessarily cash rich. Their problem was the lack of a labor force that slavery solved: Measuring Worth - Measuring the Value of a SlaveLee was an honorable man born on the wrong side of history. He was a slave owner, but he was admittedly against abusing slaves. He in fact freed all the slaves he inherited from his father-in-law. While he wasn’t against slavery he was an ideology in favor of it.
Slavery is how he maintained and grew his wealth. You get rich real quick when you don't have to pay labor. Whether or not he was a racist doesn't matter; he exploited slaves in order to enrich himself personally.
No honor there.
So, you got anything to support your claim that he was motivated by money in his decision to turn down command of the Union army and instead take command of the Army of Virginia?
Nothing in your post supported your claim.
Trump won based on his Trade and Immigration policies.
Wanting better jobs and wages is a pretty normal voter interest.
That this offends you, is just you being an asshole.So, fuck off and die, piece of shit.
Slavery was not Lee's motivation, that was clear.
Of fucking course it was! How do you think he became a rich man? By exploiting free labor (aka slavery).
So, you got anything to support your claim that he was motivated by money in his decision to turn down command of the Union army and instead take command of the Army of Virginia?
lol!!!
That was a joke, I know that supporting your arguments is not for you. YOu are just a partisan hack who just says shit.
/——/ you aren’t well read. Believe what you want but here is some data. I doubt you’ll do more than scan it. Plantation owners were land rich but not necessarily cash rich. Their problem was the lack of a labor force that slavery solved: Measuring Worth - Measuring the Value of a Slave
/——/ Yeah those rich Democrat slave owners were greedy alright./——/ you aren’t well read. Believe what you want but here is some data. I doubt you’ll do more than scan it. Plantation owners were land rich but not necessarily cash rich. Their problem was the lack of a labor force that slavery solved: Measuring Worth - Measuring the Value of a Slave
But they were rich, and not paying slaves a wage meant you got to keep more of that wealth. That's why Lee became a traitor...his personal wealth was more important to him than the unity of the country.
By the pseudocons' own standards, Lee was a terrorist.
/——/ Yeah those rich Democrat slave owners were greedy alright./——/ you aren’t well read. Believe what you want but here is some data. I doubt you’ll do more than scan it. Plantation owners were land rich but not necessarily cash rich. Their problem was the lack of a labor force that slavery solved: Measuring Worth - Measuring the Value of a Slave
But they were rich, and not paying slaves a wage meant you got to keep more of that wealth. That's why Lee became a traitor...his personal wealth was more important to him than the unity of the country.
