John Locke on Stand Your Ground

Wrong answer Trayvon incited the ASSAULT. Mr Zimmerman was protecting his neighborhood from someone he didn't recognize.

*TRY AGAIN*
Residents of a neighborhood, have no legal authority to police who comes in to (and out of) their block.

You protect things from a threat, a threat is a crime, crime is breaking the law and Martin wasn't breaking any laws.

And if he's not breaking any laws, Zimmerman can go fuck himself!
 
Before SYG changed Florida's self-defense laws in 2006 - Zimmerman would have been convicted - because he would have been required to do everything possible, including retreating, before attempting the use of deadly force. Zimmerman had multiple opportunities to retreat.

Trayvon Martin perceived Zimmerman as a threat - and Martin had every right to stand HIS ground.
 
1. He got out of his truck to check where he was
2. He want back to or nearly to his truck
3. Trayvon came back and attacked
4. Trayvon was on top of him

Why are people so dishonest?
Go check where the "fuckin coon" was.

That right there shows he's a fuckin racist with hostile intent.
 
You believe, let me get this straight, you believe physical violence is an adequate response to..............staring?

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Bravo! Just when I thought the populace couldn't get more stupid, here's this guy to prove me wrong.

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That's what you hope I believe, it wasn't what I said.

You got comprehension issues?
 
]Before SYG changed Florida's self-defense laws in 2006 - Zimmerman would have been convicted[/B] - because he would have been required to do everything possible, including retreating, before attempting the use of deadly force. Zimmerman had multiple opportunities to retreat.

Trayvon Martin perceived Zimmerman as a threat - and Martin had every right to stand HIS ground.

Not necessarily. We would never know for sure but self defense with a deadly force occurred at the point when Z was not able to retreat, so whatever happened before is actually irrelevant with SYG or without it.
 
Wrong answer Trayvon incited the ASSAULT. Mr Zimmerman was protecting his neighborhood from someone he didn't recognize.

*TRY AGAIN*
Residents of a neighborhood, have no legal authority to police who comes in to (and out of) their block.

You protect things from a threat, a threat is a crime, crime is breaking the law and Martin wasn't breaking any laws.

And if he's not breaking any laws, Zimmerman can go fuck himself!

who told you this BS?

of course residents have the right to police in their gated community. especially since that is not policing but calling 911 :cuckoo:
 
Wrong answer Trayvon incited the ASSAULT. Mr Zimmerman was protecting his neighborhood from someone he didn't recognize.

*TRY AGAIN*
Residents of a neighborhood, have no legal authority to police who comes in to (and out of) their block.

You protect things from a threat, a threat is a crime, crime is breaking the law and Martin wasn't breaking any laws.

And if he's not breaking any laws, Zimmerman can go fuck himself!
Yes they DO...Here in Florida? Neighborhood WATCHES are very popular and supported by LE officials.

Try again...
 
Not necessarily. We would never know for sure but self defense with a deadly force occurred at the point when Z was not able to retreat, so whatever happened before is actually irrelevant with SYG or without it.
You can only used deadly force, when you, yourself are threatened with deadly force.
 
Not necessarily. We would never know for sure but self defense with a deadly force occurred at the point when Z was not able to retreat, so whatever happened before is actually irrelevant with SYG or without it.
You can only used deadly force, when you, yourself are threatened with deadly force.
And what LAW are you reading? Varies from STATE to STATE doesn't it? Remember the 9th aqnd 10th Amendments? *WE* have the power to make our own laws...imagine that sport...:eusa_whistle:
 
]Before SYG changed Florida's self-defense laws in 2006 - Zimmerman would have been convicted[/B] - because he would have been required to do everything possible, including retreating, before attempting the use of deadly force. Zimmerman had multiple opportunities to retreat.

Trayvon Martin perceived Zimmerman as a threat - and Martin had every right to stand HIS ground.

Not necessarily. We would never know for sure but self defense with a deadly force occurred at the point when Z was not able to retreat, so whatever happened before is actually irrelevant with SYG or without it.

As lead police investigator, Chris Serino, generally stated: If Zimmerman had stayed in his truck and/or told Martin who he was and why he was concerned - nothing would have happened.

In other words, Zimmerman did NOTHING to diffuse the situation - and EVERYTHING to aggravate/instigate it.
 
The fact that Trayvon walked back towards Zimmerman and attacked him makes you trayvonites wrong.
If someone was following me with a gun, I'd go back and shove the gun up his ass!

you are an idiot.
you would get killed by that gun almost 100%

actually if TM knew that GZ had a gun he would have been more reasonable, because the law of self-preservation is generally followed by everybody.

It is exactly because he never expected a cracker to be armed did he decide to teach him a lesson
 
]Before SYG changed Florida's self-defense laws in 2006 - Zimmerman would have been convicted[/B] - because he would have been required to do everything possible, including retreating, before attempting the use of deadly force. Zimmerman had multiple opportunities to retreat.

Trayvon Martin perceived Zimmerman as a threat - and Martin had every right to stand HIS ground.

Not necessarily. We would never know for sure but self defense with a deadly force occurred at the point when Z was not able to retreat, so whatever happened before is actually irrelevant with SYG or without it.

As lead police investigator, Chris Serino, generally stated: If Zimmerman had stayed in his truck and/or told Martin who he was and why he was concerned - nothing would have happened. Zimmerman did NOTHING to diffuse the situation - and EVERYTHING to instigate it.

it does not matter.

at the point he used a deadly force for self defense he did not have the obligation to retreat since it was impossible
 
Not necessarily. We would never know for sure but self defense with a deadly force occurred at the point when Z was not able to retreat, so whatever happened before is actually irrelevant with SYG or without it.
You can only used deadly force, when you, yourself are threatened with deadly force.

nope. when you fear that you may suffer a great bodily harm - and are not able to retreat.

in some situations one does not even have to be in physical contact with an attacker.
 
Not necessarily. We would never know for sure but self defense with a deadly force occurred at the point when Z was not able to retreat, so whatever happened before is actually irrelevant with SYG or without it.

As lead police investigator, Chris Serino, generally stated: If Zimmerman had stayed in his truck and/or told Martin who he was and why he was concerned - nothing would have happened. Zimmerman did NOTHING to diffuse the situation - and EVERYTHING to instigate it.

it does not matter.

at the point he used a deadly force for self defense he did not have the obligation to retreat since it was impossible

If Martin really did confront him, why didn't Zimmerman simply tell Trayvon who he was?
 
that's irrelevant.

SYG was not used in the trial.

nobody was stalking anybody, but even if he was it's irrelevant
No it's not!

I love how the right is always talking about patriotism, but that's all it is............talk! Because they certainly don't practice what they preach.

"Presuming someone's guilt" and treating someone who wasn't breaking the law, like they were, is not an American value. George might as well have told Martin, "Your papers are not in order!" Because that kind of shit, ain't supposed to be happening in this country.
 

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