Zone1 Jon Stewart questions the transgender protections in Arkansas

[martybegan]

Considering which of our ideas of treatment are in line with that of the prevailing medical community, I'll leave you to sus out which one of us is being dismissed by society at large.

the prevailing medical community once thought the body consisted of 4 "elements".

Your usual appeal to supposed authority is just that.

 

[Curried Goats]

the prevailing medical community once thought the body consisted of 4 "elements".

How long ago?

Your usual appeal to supposed authority is just that.

I appeal to evidence, occasionally that comes from people in authority. It's only a fallacy if my arguments rests on them being an authority rather than the evidence they're presenting. On the other hand you produce absolutely no evidence, from an authority on the matter or otherwise.

 

[martybegan]

How long ago?

I appeal to evidence, occasionally that comes from people in authority. It's only a fallacy if my arguments rests on them being an authority rather than the evidence they're presenting. On the other hand you produce absolutely no evidence, from an authority on the matter or otherwise.

I base my views on reality, not pseudo-science.

 

[Curried Goats]

I base my views on reality, not pseudo-science.

A reality you can't seem to demonstrate with objective proof.

 

[martybegan]

A reality you can't seem to demonstrate with objective proof.

Some things don't need to be figured out by so called experts.

 

[Curried Goats]

Some things don't need to be figured out by so called experts.

True. Anyone can make objective observations and demonstrate them to others. It's telling that you can't.

 

[martybegan]

True. Anyone can make objective observations and demonstrate them to others. It's telling that you can't.

The people who know this whole craze is wrong don't need dubious studies to tell them it's wrong.

 

[Curried Goats]

The people who know this whole craze is wrong don't need dubious studies to tell them it's wrong.

Why aren't they sharing this knowledge to help improve trans care?

 

[martybegan]

Why aren't they sharing this knowledge to help improve trans care?

Because "trans care" to people like you means just let the kids get what they think they want. Meanwhile we don't just hand them car keys at 12 because they want to drive.

 

[Curried Goats]

Because "trans care" to people like you means just let the kids get what they think they want. Meanwhile we don't just hand them car keys at 12 because they want to drive.

Again, the 98% success rate of diagnosis, at least in the Netherlands, seems to counter your specious claims.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Questions for the Democrats on here:

Should children who are transgendered, and also Intellectually Disabled - formerly known as "mentally retarded" be denied transgender care, such as hormones and surgery?

Don't say that it doesn't happen. I'm a teacher and I know of two specific students in one junior high school who are ID and identify as a different gender from their biological sex.

 

[Curried Goats]

Questions for the Democrats on here:

Should children who are transgendered, and also Intellectually Disabled - formerly known as "mentally retarded" be denied transgender care, such as hormones and surgery?

Don't say that it doesn't happen. I'm a teacher and I know of two specific students in one junior high school who are ID and identify as a different gender from their biological sex.

I say no but I can see how it would be harder to properly diagnose. Fortunately we have MRIs that are contributing to identifying and treating trans patients.

 

[martybegan]

Again, the 98% success rate of diagnosis, at least in the Netherlands, seems to counter your specious claims.

In other news the chocolate ration has been increased from 30 grams to 25 grams.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I say no but I can see how it would be harder to properly diagnose. Fortunately we have MRIs that are contributing to identifying and treating trans patients.

Oh my GAWD!

You democrats are becoming a parody of yourselves.

I want to but I know that you're very serious about doing that to some poor retarded child. So it's no laughing matter.

You're hoping to take a kid like this:



but younger, who is in the hospital for tonsils or whatnot, stick his their head in an MRI and tell the parents, "Yep, he's - sorry - she is trans alright. Do we start the hormones and schedule surgery now, or would you rather wait and let CPS get involved? We're talking science here, you redneck bastards!"

 

[Curried Goats]

In other news the chocolate ration has been increased from 30 grams to 25 grams.

Do you have a reply relevant to the topic or have you run out of room?

 

[martybegan]

Do you have a reply relevant to the topic or have you run out of room?

Do you have anything besides appeals to supposed authorities and pseudo science drivel?

 

[Curried Goats]

Oh my GAWD!

You democrats are becoming a parody of yourselves.

I want to but I know that you're very serious about doing that to some poor retarded child. So it's no laughing matter.

You're hoping to take a kid like this:



but younger, who is in the hospital for tonsils or whatnot, stick his their head in an MRI and tell the parents, "Yep, he's - sorry - she is trans alright. Do we start the hormones and schedule surgery now, or would you rather wait and let CPS get involved? We're talking science here, you redneck bastards!"

I'm on the other hand don't have to pretend you're serious.

 

[Curried Goats]

Do you have anything besides appeals to supposed authorities and pseudo science drivel?

I posted the link to an article the explains the findings and has a link to the study itself, if you could refute it with anything other than empty rhetoric you would have.

 

[martybegan]

I posted the link to an article the explains the findings and has a link to the study itself, if you could refute it with anything other than empty rhetoric you would have.

A link to pseudo-science junk.

 

[Curried Goats]

A link to pseudo-science junk.

So you claim..... without evidence.