Zone1 Jon Stewart questions the transgender protections in Arkansas

[martybegan]

Where are we losing? In your fantasy game? Gender affirming care is the standard for treating gender dysphoria.

Always with the "gender affirming care" trope. And again, the whole issue is many of these cases aren't true gender dysphoria but pushed on solutions to other mental issues, combined with fetishism and peer pressure.

The best outcome always involves not drugging or mutilating a person, especially when it comes to children.

 

[Curried Goats]

Always with the "gender affirming care" trope. And again, the whole issue is many of these cases aren't true gender dysphoria but pushed on solutions to other mental issues, combined with fetishism and peer pressure.

Not by any evidence you've presented.

The best outcome always involves not drugging or mutilating a person, especially when it comes to children.

The best outcome according to your fantasy role playing group?

 

[martybegan]

Not by any evidence you've presented.

The best outcome according to your fantasy role playing group?

The only "evidence" you present is social engineering flummery.

The best outcome based on reality. The simple fact is you can't give these people what their mind wants, only a freakish approximation.

 

[Curried Goats]

The only "evidence" you present is social engineering flummery.

The best outcome based on reality. The simple fact is you can't give these people what their mind wants, only a freakish approximation.

Not this reality and not by any measurement you've presented.

 

[martybegan]

Not this reality and not by any measurement you've presented.

Some things are so obvious that only doctrinal fanatics can't see it, or will not see it.

 

[Curried Goats]

Some things are so obvious that only doctrinal fanatics can't see it, or will not see it.

The only people who repeat that line are those without an argument. Things that are more obvious should be that much easier to prove, objectively.

 

[martybegan]

The only people who repeat that line are those without an argument. Things that are more obvious should be that much easier to prove, objectively.

We are not discussing a rational topic, so normal rules don't apply. Sorry, but anyone who supports surgery or pumping chemicals into kids due to this is a monster.

 

[Curried Goats]

We are not discussing a rational topic, so normal rules don't apply. Sorry, but anyone who supports surgery or pumping chemicals into kids due to this is a monster.

Calling people monsters isn't a rational argument and rationality is how you defeat ignorance and irrationality. If you cared about these children you'd support whatever care produced the best results.

 

[martybegan]

Calling people monsters isn't a rational argument and rationality is how you defeat ignorance and irrationality. If you cared about these children you'd support whatever care produced the best results.

The whole transgender craze isn't rational to start with.

This isn't about caring for your side, it's about getting your ideological jollies on the backs of mentally and emotionally disturbed children.

It's about not being able to question SJW dogma like automatic hormones and surgeries for possible gender dysphoria.

It's about lumping in fetishes with actual mental issues, and not caring who it hurts as long as it "sticks it to the Jeebus freaks"

It's about the strange obsession ADULT SJW's have with the sex lives of kids.

 

[Curried Goats]

The whole transgender craze isn't rational to start with.

Then prove it.

This isn't about caring for your side, it's about getting your ideological jollies on the backs of mentally and emotionally disturbed children.

That's just another accusation.

It's about not being able to question SJW dogma like automatic hormones and surgeries for possible gender dysphoria.

Feel free to question it. That's not what you want to do. You want to dismiss it.

It's about lumping in fetishes with actual mental issues, and not caring who it hurts as long as it "sticks it to the Jeebus freaks"

You have almost no chance of convincing anyone that you care more about child care than those who devoted their lives to providing that care.

It's about the strange obsession ADULT SJW's have with the sex lives of kids.

Gender dysphoria has nothing to do with sexual activity. Trans people can be straight, gay, bi or anywhere in between just like everyone else.

 

[martybegan]

Then prove it.

That's just another accusation.

Feel free to question it. That's not what you want to do. You want to dismiss it.

You have almost no chance of convincing anyone that you care more about child care than those who devoted their lives to providing that care.

Gender dysphoria has nothing to do with sexual activity. Trans people can be straight, gay, bi or anywhere in between just like everyone else.

It doesn't matter to you, because you aren't about trying to understand, you just take your SJW marching orders and go with it.

Devotion doesn't equal competence, or righteousness. It's just another flavor of appealing to authority, which seems to be the only play in your book.

This whole thing is about sex, and more disturbingly, the sex lives of children.

 

[Curried Goats]

It doesn't matter to you, because you aren't about trying to understand, you just take your SJW marching orders and go with it.

Devotion doesn't equal competence, or righteousness. It's just another flavor of appealing to authority, which seems to be the only play in your book.

This whole thing is about sex, and more disturbingly, the sex lives of children.

So you say.

 

[martybegan]

So you say.

Yes. All you have is social construct studies that pass themselves off as science, which is crazy.

 

[Curried Goats]

Yes. All you have is social construct studies that pass themselves off as science, which is crazy.

That sentence certainly is.

 

[martybegan]

That sentence certainly is.

It's reality, something you ignore due to your politics. which is typical for those on the hard left.

It's why SJW's are causing democrats to get pummeled this election cycle. People are finally seeing through the bull.

 

[Curried Goats]

It's reality, something you ignore due to your politics. which is typical for those on the hard left.

You mean the reality where gender affirming care is the standard?

It's why SJW's are causing democrats to get pummeled this election cycle. People are finally seeing through the bull.

Sure they are.

 

[martybegan]

You mean the reality where gender affirming care is the standard?

Sure they are.

That is being challenged by more and more people. and you keep lumping letting a kid dress differently and tuck with pumping them full of chemicals and mutilating them under the orwellian term "gender affirming care"

It just shows leftists can't be truthful about what they are supporting, they have to cover it up in banal generalized terms with floating definitions.

 

[Curried Goats]

That is being challenged by more and more people. and you keep lumping letting a kid dress differently and tuck with pumping them full of chemicals and mutilating them under the orwellian term "gender affirming care"

It just shows leftists can't be truthful about what they are supporting, they have to cover it up in banal generalized terms with floating definitions.

It's not being challenged by people who matter.

 

[martybegan]

It's not being challenged by people who matter.

The "people who matter" are either too young to understand what the long term consequences are (the kids), or being fooled/pressured into accepting the situation by those with an agenda.

 

[Curried Goats]

The "people who matter" are either too young to understand what the long term consequences are (the kids), or being fooled/pressured into accepting the situation by those with an agenda.

You know those teenagers can speak for themselves and they aren't on your side.