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better the man live in a box than the children....
GlennSacks.com » Blog Archive » Family Attorney Marsha Freeman: 'The System is Broken'
John Nelson went from six-figure-earning software exectutive to unemployed overnight. But his $2,200 child support payment didn't change that quickly. It took a year for him to get a hearing, and when he finally did, the judge increased his obligation. By that time he had gotten a job as a science teacher, but the newly-upped child support obligation meant that he took home a grand total of $58 per week. Read about it here (WFTV, 11/9/09).
The judge, Julian Piggotte's attitude was "you can afford it; figure it out." Then she discovered that she had a conflict of interest in Nelson's case and withdrew.
His ex-wife sees the situation this way:
"Our lives go on. The kids still have lunches, they still go to school, and they still have field trips."
That's true. And if she and John were still together, the kids would need to be fed and go to school, but their standard of living would drop along with that of their parents. That's what happens when parents lose their jobs - parents and children live on less. They all manage the best they can. It's one of the sometimes-harsh realities of daily life.
Only if the parents are divorced does the concept arise that the children's lives must in no way change due to a parent's loss of income. It's as if Judge Piggotte lives in a fantasy world in which children must and do remain unaffected when their father loses his job. Indeed, it's the same fantasy world in which an adult can live on $58 per week.
Nelson's case is like countless others these days. Some 80% of job losses have been suffered by men in the last year or so. A lot of those guys are fathers, some of them divorced. That means they have to file for a modification of their support orders
It's another strange aspect of the whole matter that, if Nelson's wife had wanted a temporary restraining order against him, she could have gotten a hearing and had an order issued in a matter of hours. But when he loses his job and needs to reduce his child support to reflect what he can actually pay, it takes over a year.
Thoughts?
Further evidence that the Child Support system is broken?
better the man live in a box than the children....
Spending too much time in the "box" is what caused all of his trouble in the first place!!!![]()
men should be more careful with their sperm.
men should be more careful with their sperm.
In that case, women should keep their legs closed more often. See how it goes both ways?
men should be more careful with their sperm.
Men should be more careful who they marry.
How many men have been lied to by women who say their on the pill only to find out later that she was a lying bitch?
men should be more careful with their sperm.
Men should be more careful who they marry.
How many men have been lied to by women who say their on the pill only to find out later that she was a lying bitch?
omg its never the idiot man's fault for not controlling his sperm now is it.....do you really trust another human that you just met at a bar or whatever to decide your fate? really skull? i really didnt take you for being that gulliable?????
men should be more careful with their sperm.
Men should be more careful who they marry.
How many men have been lied to by women who say their on the pill only to find out later that she was a lying bitch?
men should be more careful with their sperm.
Men should be more careful who they marry.
How many men have been lied to by women who say their on the pill only to find out later that she was a lying bitch?
Fuck that. The kids are his, he can figure it out. I'm raising 4 (it doesn't stop when they turn 18) and the pittance I get in child support is a joke. Heat alone is $200 a month....so 2/3 of that is theirs, and 1/2 of that should by rights be his. Add that to their portion of the rent, and guess what? I don't get anywhere near what I spend on them.
And that's just the second set. The first set, I've receive a grand total (over 24 years) of $5,200. Woo fucking hoo. We spent that much on one broken arm, 13 years ago.
If you're heating the house when you're there alone. a kid in the house does not raise your heating bill. if you have a phone in your house having a kid does not raise your phone bill or your cable bill etc.
so if you need a 3 bedroom apartment instead of a one the only consideration there would be half the difference in rent between a one and 3 bedroom.
if you're kids are 18 and not in college, they are considered adults and should be supporting themselves or at least paying you room and board.
And I'm sure the kids father spends money on them as well. And how did you collect child support for 24 years?
And there is no way you only received 216 dollars a year for child support. that's what your figures work out to.
men should be more careful with their sperm.
Men should be more careful who they marry.
How many men have been lied to by women who say their on the pill only to find out later that she was a lying bitch?
men should be more careful with their sperm.
Men should be more careful who they marry.
How many men have been lied to by women who say their on the pill only to find out later that she was a lying bitch?
LMAO!! You are such an asshole...
Actually, my ex husband, and baby daddy, knew I was not on the pill, and after I would put the fucking condoms on him, he was pulling the damn things off. It took a few days to figure it out, but when one of the things ended up in the corner of the room, I knew what had happened. It wasn't from ME accidentally pulling them off vaginally during sex, either. HE was purposefully doing it.
I actually had the positive pregnancy test still in my hand, when he decided we would get married. Talk about power and control. Sheesh. Men can be bitches too, it seems!! A couple weeks before this, he had bought a brand new ford ranger pickup single cab truck. He was a selfish little fucker...
I am so glad he died. Dick. We don't miss him, around here. =)
True men can deceive also! Most men are much more polite and well manner early in the relationship and then change (but we usually change well before we get married). Women on the other hand usually change course after the ring is on the finger.
GlennSacks.com » Blog Archive » Family Attorney Marsha Freeman: 'The System is Broken'
John Nelson went from six-figure-earning software exectutive to unemployed overnight. But his $2,200 child support payment didn't change that quickly. It took a year for him to get a hearing, and when he finally did, the judge increased his obligation. By that time he had gotten a job as a science teacher, but the newly-upped child support obligation meant that he took home a grand total of $58 per week. Read about it here (WFTV, 11/9/09).
The judge, Julian Piggotte's attitude was "you can afford it; figure it out." Then she discovered that she had a conflict of interest in Nelson's case and withdrew.
His ex-wife sees the situation this way:
"Our lives go on. The kids still have lunches, they still go to school, and they still have field trips."
That's true. And if she and John were still together, the kids would need to be fed and go to school, but their standard of living would drop along with that of their parents. That's what happens when parents lose their jobs - parents and children live on less. They all manage the best they can. It's one of the sometimes-harsh realities of daily life.
Only if the parents are divorced does the concept arise that the children's lives must in no way change due to a parent's loss of income. It's as if Judge Piggotte lives in a fantasy world in which children must and do remain unaffected when their father loses his job. Indeed, it's the same fantasy world in which an adult can live on $58 per week.
Nelson's case is like countless others these days. Some 80% of job losses have been suffered by men in the last year or so. A lot of those guys are fathers, some of them divorced. That means they have to file for a modification of their support orders
It's another strange aspect of the whole matter that, if Nelson's wife had wanted a temporary restraining order against him, she could have gotten a hearing and had an order issued in a matter of hours. But when he loses his job and needs to reduce his child support to reflect what he can actually pay, it takes over a year.
Thoughts?
Further evidence that the Child Support system is broken?
GlennSacks.com » Blog Archive » Family Attorney Marsha Freeman: 'The System is Broken'
John Nelson went from six-figure-earning software exectutive to unemployed overnight. But his $2,200 child support payment didn't change that quickly. It took a year for him to get a hearing, and when he finally did, the judge increased his obligation. By that time he had gotten a job as a science teacher, but the newly-upped child support obligation meant that he took home a grand total of $58 per week. Read about it here (WFTV, 11/9/09).
The judge, Julian Piggotte's attitude was "you can afford it; figure it out." Then she discovered that she had a conflict of interest in Nelson's case and withdrew.
His ex-wife sees the situation this way:
"Our lives go on. The kids still have lunches, they still go to school, and they still have field trips."
That's true. And if she and John were still together, the kids would need to be fed and go to school, but their standard of living would drop along with that of their parents. That's what happens when parents lose their jobs - parents and children live on less. They all manage the best they can. It's one of the sometimes-harsh realities of daily life.
Only if the parents are divorced does the concept arise that the children's lives must in no way change due to a parent's loss of income. It's as if Judge Piggotte lives in a fantasy world in which children must and do remain unaffected when their father loses his job. Indeed, it's the same fantasy world in which an adult can live on $58 per week.
Nelson's case is like countless others these days. Some 80% of job losses have been suffered by men in the last year or so. A lot of those guys are fathers, some of them divorced. That means they have to file for a modification of their support orders
It's another strange aspect of the whole matter that, if Nelson's wife had wanted a temporary restraining order against him, she could have gotten a hearing and had an order issued in a matter of hours. But when he loses his job and needs to reduce his child support to reflect what he can actually pay, it takes over a year.
Thoughts?
Further evidence that the Child Support system is broken?
They can't leave you with 50 bucks no matter how many kids you have. Ridiculous.