Judicial Watch Sues over California Law Requiring Presidential Candidates to Submit Tax Returns

[Cellblock2429]

I think the Trump supporters are afraid of what they will find out.

You mean the stuff in there that Obama's IRS couldn't find?

My God, the dumbass in you is terminal!

We don't think there's anything illegal in his taxes, but there will be a lot of information the public needs to know. Trump has been borrowing heavily from the Russians and the Saudis. Trump Hotel Toronto was financed by the Saudi's and the building was sold to a Russian born investor. The Trump Corporation was managing the facility on behalf of the Russian investor when the owner filed for bankruptcy in 2016.

American banks stopped lending to Trump after his four casino bankruptcies in the 1990's. Who Trump owes money to at this point is important, as are the sources of his income, and what his true net worth is as well. Especially considering that Trump is now selling nuclear technologies to the Saudi's, and is lifting sanctions against Russian oligarchs.

I strongly believe that the financial statemens will reveal that Trump isn't worth the billions he claims, and that his net worth is, as Deutches Banke has claims, closer to $300 million, which is what Fred left him in the first place.

/—-/ Too bad you’ll never see them.

 

[danielpalos]

Depends on how many States make that political decision.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Depends on how many States make that political decision.

/—-/ Well he could release 1970 to 1975 returns to meet the qualifications.

 

[rightwinger]

Show us your returns!

 

[bripat9643]

Doesn't matter.

What DOES matter is the Constitution, and statutory compliance with same.

And that is precisely what the State is doing, isn't it? Creating a STATUTE, making it a legal requirement for everyone running... a statutory requirement??

No. The State created a statute that will ultimately found to be NON-compliant with the US Constitution. Thus, the upcoming court-fight.

Which specific part of the US Constitution is it non-compliant with?

Right to Privacy: Constitutional Rights & Privacy Laws

There is no right to privacy in a public office. Oversight requires it.

wrong.

 

[bripat9643]

I think the Trump supporters are afraid of what they will find out.

You mean the stuff in there that Obama's IRS couldn't find?

My God, the dumbass in you is terminal!

We don't think there's anything illegal in his taxes, but there will be a lot of information the public needs to know. Trump has been borrowing heavily from the Russians and the Saudis. Trump Hotel Toronto was financed by the Saudi's and the building was sold to a Russian born investor. The Trump Corporation was managing the facility on behalf of the Russian investor when the owner filed for bankruptcy in 2016.

American banks stopped lending to Trump after his four casino bankruptcies in the 1990's. Who Trump owes money to at this point is important, as are the sources of his income, and what his true net worth is as well. Especially considering that Trump is now selling nuclear technologies to the Saudi's, and is lifting sanctions against Russian oligarchs.

I strongly believe that the financial statemens will reveal that Trump isn't worth the billions he claims, and that his net worth is, as Deutches Banke has claims, closer to $300 million, which is what Fred left him in the first place.

And you know all this how?

 

[Care4all]

the way to get around having to show your tax returns is to sue Congress - fuck the voters


Analysts say most Americans want to see Trump's tax returns

Doesn't matter.

What DOES matter is the Constitution, and statutory compliance with same.

And that is precisely what the State is doing, isn't it? Creating a STATUTE, making it a legal requirement for everyone running... a statutory requirement??

/——-/ State law doesn’t override Federal law, otherwise Blue States could reinstate slavery.

There is no federal law preventing states from vetting their candidates??

 

[pknopp]

the way to get around having to show your tax returns is to sue Congress - fuck the voters


Analysts say most Americans want to see Trump's tax returns

Doesn't matter.

What DOES matter is the Constitution, and statutory compliance with same.

And that is precisely what the State is doing, isn't it? Creating a STATUTE, making it a legal requirement for everyone running... a statutory requirement??

/——-/ State law doesn’t override Federal law, otherwise Blue States could reinstate slavery.

There is no federal law preventing states from vetting their candidates??

Right to privacy.

 

[OKTexas]

I think the Trump supporters are afraid of what they will find out.

You mean the stuff in there that Obama's IRS couldn't find?

My God, the dumbass in you is terminal!

We don't think there's anything illegal in his taxes, but there will be a lot of information the public needs to know. Trump has been borrowing heavily from the Russians and the Saudis. Trump Hotel Toronto was financed by the Saudi's and the building was sold to a Russian born investor. The Trump Corporation was managing the facility on behalf of the Russian investor when the owner filed for bankruptcy in 2016.

American banks stopped lending to Trump after his four casino bankruptcies in the 1990's. Who Trump owes money to at this point is important, as are the sources of his income, and what his true net worth is as well. Especially considering that Trump is now selling nuclear technologies to the Saudi's, and is lifting sanctions against Russian oligarchs.

I strongly believe that the financial statemens will reveal that Trump isn't worth the billions he claims, and that his net worth is, as Deutches Banke has claims, closer to $300 million, which is what Fred left him in the first place.

God you're clueless how corporate debt works, it doesn't show up on an individual tax return, it would be on the corporate filings. An individual return is a snapshot for that year alone and doesn't show net worth.

.

 

[OKTexas]

the way to get around having to show your tax returns is to sue Congress - fuck the voters


Analysts say most Americans want to see Trump's tax returns

Doesn't matter.

What DOES matter is the Constitution, and statutory compliance with same.

And that is precisely what the State is doing, isn't it? Creating a STATUTE, making it a legal requirement for everyone running... a statutory requirement??

/——-/ State law doesn’t override Federal law, otherwise Blue States could reinstate slavery.

There is no federal law preventing states from vetting their candidates??

Federal law, no, supreme court ruling, yes. See post #270.

.

 

[danielpalos]

And that is precisely what the State is doing, isn't it? Creating a STATUTE, making it a legal requirement for everyone running... a statutory requirement??

No. The State created a statute that will ultimately found to be NON-compliant with the US Constitution. Thus, the upcoming court-fight.

Which specific part of the US Constitution is it non-compliant with?

Right to Privacy: Constitutional Rights & Privacy Laws

There is no right to privacy in a public office. Oversight requires it.

wrong.

lol. you are not Simon.

 

[Issa]

Away from the legality of this...why does it bother you that a candidate gets screened before he or she gets hold of your faith and the.countrys faith ?

The only point of this law is to screen out Republicans who have never held elective office.

I'm talking in general...why are you against vetting politicians ? Why are you against vetting trump even more to see if he is a corrupt or not ?

I'm against poking into people's personal lives. Aren't you? You idiots screamed like hell over the Monica Lewinski scandal even though Clinton signed the law that made previous sexual misconduct valid evidence in sex crimes cases.

Clinton who ? I'm not a pro Clinton. I think everyone that run the country needs to be vetted thoroughly, if he or she doesnt want to that means they hiding something. In trumps case he promised to release his taxes numerous times....and a man is his word.

It would make it impossible for any rich Business man from running for election. And we need Rich Business men in Office to fix this damn country from the Professional Politicians.

Like trump? He has been hiring and firing from the swamp. And he has been with the swamp for years.

 

[Issa]

Away from the legality of this...why does it bother you that a candidate gets screened before he or she gets hold of your faith and the.countrys faith ?

The only point of this law is to screen out Republicans who have never held elective office.

I'm talking in general...why are you against vetting politicians ? Why are you against vetting trump even more to see if he is a corrupt or not ?

I'm against poking into people's personal lives. Aren't you? You idiots screamed like hell over the Monica Lewinski scandal even though Clinton signed the law that made previous sexual misconduct valid evidence in sex crimes cases.

Clinton who ? I'm not a pro Clinton. I think everyone that run the country needs to be vetted thoroughly, if he or she doesnt want to that means they hiding something. In trumps case he promised to release his taxes numerous times....and a man is his word.

So no one is entitled to privacy of any kind? I shudder at the kind of country you want us to become. Fortunately the constitution differs from what you believe.

You seem not to like transparency. You have no privacy in this country they know every little thing about you, they sexually harass you when you go through airports, they listen to your calls, read your emails, and they can fire for saying something offensive on social media. And they take your money and spend it like there is no tomorrow.

 

[bripat9643]

The only point of this law is to screen out Republicans who have never held elective office.

I'm talking in general...why are you against vetting politicians ? Why are you against vetting trump even more to see if he is a corrupt or not ?

I'm against poking into people's personal lives. Aren't you? You idiots screamed like hell over the Monica Lewinski scandal even though Clinton signed the law that made previous sexual misconduct valid evidence in sex crimes cases.

Clinton who ? I'm not a pro Clinton. I think everyone that run the country needs to be vetted thoroughly, if he or she doesnt want to that means they hiding something. In trumps case he promised to release his taxes numerous times....and a man is his word.

So no one is entitled to privacy of any kind? I shudder at the kind of country you want us to become. Fortunately the constitution differs from what you believe.

You seem not to like transparency. You have no privacy in this country they know every little thing about you, they sexually harass you when you go through airports, they listen to your calls, read your emails, and they can fire for saying something offensive on social media. And they take your money and spend it like there is no tomorrow.

Are you saying you support all those things? I certainly don't. Privacy is the opposite of transparency. So on a personal level, I oppose it. I believe government should be transparent- like turning over all the text messages between Peter Strozk and Lisa Page.

 

[Issa]

I'm talking in general...why are you against vetting politicians ? Why are you against vetting trump even more to see if he is a corrupt or not ?

I'm against poking into people's personal lives. Aren't you? You idiots screamed like hell over the Monica Lewinski scandal even though Clinton signed the law that made previous sexual misconduct valid evidence in sex crimes cases.

Clinton who ? I'm not a pro Clinton. I think everyone that run the country needs to be vetted thoroughly, if he or she doesnt want to that means they hiding something. In trumps case he promised to release his taxes numerous times....and a man is his word.

So no one is entitled to privacy of any kind? I shudder at the kind of country you want us to become. Fortunately the constitution differs from what you believe.

You seem not to like transparency. You have no privacy in this country they know every little thing about you, they sexually harass you when you go through airports, they listen to your calls, read your emails, and they can fire for saying something offensive on social media. And they take your money and spend it like there is no tomorrow.

Are you saying you support all those things? I certainly don't. Privacy is the opposite of transparency. So on a personal level, I oppose it. I believe government should be transparent- like turning over all the text messages between Peter Strozk and Lisa Page.

How about all the meeting transcripts between trumps campaign and Russia? Or tax returns so we can make sure he is not a crook more than he is.

 

[Cellblock2429]

the way to get around having to show your tax returns is to sue Congress - fuck the voters


Analysts say most Americans want to see Trump's tax returns

Doesn't matter.

What DOES matter is the Constitution, and statutory compliance with same.

And that is precisely what the State is doing, isn't it? Creating a STATUTE, making it a legal requirement for everyone running... a statutory requirement??

/——-/ State law doesn’t override Federal law, otherwise Blue States could reinstate slavery.

There is no federal law preventing states from vetting their candidates??

/—-/ It’s not their job to Bette candidates. If so then no Blue State would ever let a strong Republican on a ballot. They can require signatures but little else,

 

[Dragonlady]

I think the Trump supporters are afraid of what they will find out.

You mean the stuff in there that Obama's IRS couldn't find?

My God, the dumbass in you is terminal!

We don't think there's anything illegal in his taxes, but there will be a lot of information the public needs to know. Trump has been borrowing heavily from the Russians and the Saudis. Trump Hotel Toronto was financed by the Saudi's and the building was sold to a Russian born investor. The Trump Corporation was managing the facility on behalf of the Russian investor when the owner filed for bankruptcy in 2016.

American banks stopped lending to Trump after his four casino bankruptcies in the 1990's. Who Trump owes money to at this point is important, as are the sources of his income, and what his true net worth is as well. Especially considering that Trump is now selling nuclear technologies to the Saudi's, and is lifting sanctions against Russian oligarchs.

I strongly believe that the financial statemens will reveal that Trump isn't worth the billions he claims, and that his net worth is, as Deutches Banke has claims, closer to $300 million, which is what Fred left him in the first place.

God you're clueless how corporate debt works, it doesn't show up on an individual tax return, it would be on the corporate filings. An individual return is a snapshot for that year alone and doesn't show net worth.

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As a former bank manager and a corporate law clerk, I am far more conservsant with how corporate debt works than you are Bucko. More importantly, I am also aware of how corporations are structured for high end commercial real estate developers, because I've in charge of maintaining the corporate records for a large multi-national construction company, with over 2000 subsidiary companies, some 200 of which were active at any time. I've also been the manager of the bank with a lead financial stake in a large scale development, and worked for the developer as the law clerk drafting and registering development agreements, debentures, and mortgages. There is no aspect of commercial development that I haven't worked in either as a banker or a law clerk. It was my high level of banking experience that got me my first legal job in a corporate/commerical/real estate law office.

The sources of income are detailed on the tax return, as are the losses he claims. And Trump's net worth will be exposed, which is the most important thing. Has he been lying to the American people about his wealth and his success? Or is he just a lying conman?

 

[Care4all]

It is Trump who has changed the standard for presidential candidates, by denying us access to his tax returns, that ALL OTHER CANDIDATES have given.

Voluntarily....started under Nixon.

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ok. then WHY did he decide to break that standard, that trend of doing such? Why did he think he was special, and should not follow the trend?

Sunshine, is a good thing, and not a bad thing, unless you are Trump, it seems?

Why even take his side on this....? I do not understand you guys when it comes to this....??

Speaking of standards, we always had the standard of using the requirements outlined in the US Constitution to become President without question.

Trump showing his tax returns doesn't do him any good. It may only do him harm which is why Democrats want it. It has nothing to do with him being President. Democrats are looking for ways to discredit him as if they haven't tried that enough already.

If you were walking down a street and approached by a man who said he was going to beat you and take your money, would you go find a stick for him to beat you with???

How could showing his tax returns DO HIM HARM??? Is he crooked? Shouldn't we have been able to know this before he was elected?

We got to know what all the other candidate's tax returns contained... it's not fair to all of them, if he and he alone, gets to hide them from us... and get away with it... lies and all...

I do not understand WHY you can not support all of us, seeing all of the candidate's returns....

I'm certain before Trump, you supported us seeing candidate's tax returns....

The more of something, in this case income, the more likely a mistake is made with it. And you liberals will declare every mistake a gross violation of the law even if it's just a mistake.

People make mistakes all the time, that's a fact of life. Those are accepted. It would be tax fraud only if the mistake was clearly not something he or his accountants could be mistaken about...

 

[Dragonlady]

I think the Trump supporters are afraid of what they will find out.

You mean the stuff in there that Obama's IRS couldn't find?

My God, the dumbass in you is terminal!

We don't think there's anything illegal in his taxes, but there will be a lot of information the public needs to know. Trump has been borrowing heavily from the Russians and the Saudis. Trump Hotel Toronto was financed by the Saudi's and the building was sold to a Russian born investor. The Trump Corporation was managing the facility on behalf of the Russian investor when the owner filed for bankruptcy in 2016.

American banks stopped lending to Trump after his four casino bankruptcies in the 1990's. Who Trump owes money to at this point is important, as are the sources of his income, and what his true net worth is as well. Especially considering that Trump is now selling nuclear technologies to the Saudi's, and is lifting sanctions against Russian oligarchs.

I strongly believe that the financial statemens will reveal that Trump isn't worth the billions he claims, and that his net worth is, as Deutches Banke has claims, closer to $300 million, which is what Fred left him in the first place.

And you know all this how?

A forty year career in banking, finance and law. As a junior banker, I had to learn to do complex analysis of financial statements and tax return for large scale borrowers, because the manager delegated that work to me.

 

[bripat9643]

I think the Trump supporters are afraid of what they will find out.

You mean the stuff in there that Obama's IRS couldn't find?

My God, the dumbass in you is terminal!

We don't think there's anything illegal in his taxes, but there will be a lot of information the public needs to know. Trump has been borrowing heavily from the Russians and the Saudis. Trump Hotel Toronto was financed by the Saudi's and the building was sold to a Russian born investor. The Trump Corporation was managing the facility on behalf of the Russian investor when the owner filed for bankruptcy in 2016.

American banks stopped lending to Trump after his four casino bankruptcies in the 1990's. Who Trump owes money to at this point is important, as are the sources of his income, and what his true net worth is as well. Especially considering that Trump is now selling nuclear technologies to the Saudi's, and is lifting sanctions against Russian oligarchs.

I strongly believe that the financial statemens will reveal that Trump isn't worth the billions he claims, and that his net worth is, as Deutches Banke has claims, closer to $300 million, which is what Fred left him in the first place.

And you know all this how?

A forty year career in banking, finance and law.

In other words, you don't know any of that. You're regurgitating leftwing conspiracy theories.