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Who are those affected?
People on SNAP and TANF and the like, for the most part, no doubt.
If true, that will impact a maximum of 6% of the White population in the US...
If true, that will impact a maximum of 28% of the Black population in the US...
The Pubs have long-since done this math...
Other than the occasional "local" mathematical aberration... it doesn't really impact the Pubs at the polls all that much, from the 30,000-foot nationwide perspective...
NO you are wrong!
"primarily because the penalty for not having insurance would be eliminated."
Do you understand?
These are people that bought insurance ONLY because they didn't want to pay the penalty for not having it!
So naturally they go ahead pay the insurance premium so they WON"T be tAXED for NOT having insurance!
What a screwed up system! Again 18 million people under 34 making over $50,000 didn't use their employers' health plan! Why because they saw no need to throw money out when they didn't have any bad experiences.
Remember Employer plans don't have "pre-existing conditions" clauses so any time any time that 18 million under 34 could sign up at the first sign of illness! Until then they didn't need their employers plan.
18 million were under 34 years, make over $50,000 and didn't WANT or need employers' health programs! Over half of them (9.7 million) in households with incomes that exceed $75,000 annually. -
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
Who are those affected?
People on SNAP and TANF and the like, for the most part, no doubt.
If true, that will impact a maximum of 6% of the White population in the US...
If true, that will impact a maximum of 28% of the Black population in the US...
The Pubs have long-since done this math...
Other than the occasional "local" mathematical aberration... it doesn't really impact the Pubs at the polls all that much, from the 30,000-foot nationwide perspective...
NO you are wrong!
"primarily because the penalty for not having insurance would be eliminated."
Do you understand?
These are people that bought insurance ONLY because they didn't want to pay the penalty for not having it!
So naturally they go ahead pay the insurance premium so they WON"T be tAXED for NOT having insurance!
What a screwed up system! Again 18 million people under 34 making over $50,000 didn't use their employers' health plan! Why because they saw no need to throw money out when they didn't have any bad experiences.
Remember Employer plans don't have "pre-existing conditions" clauses so any time any time that 18 million under 34 could sign up at the first sign of illness! Until then they didn't need their employers plan.
18 million were under 34 years, make over $50,000 and didn't WANT or need employers' health programs! Over half of them (9.7 million) in households with incomes that exceed $75,000 annually. -
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
Sorry! That part is not true.
Employees can only sign up during open enrollment periods unless they have a qualifying event. Getting sick is not one of them. Also, pre-existing conditions apply if you have not had continuous coverage.
I worked as benefits instructor for AT&T and that is the way every benefit I have had since works.
Who pays for those 22 million people to get care? The people that are paying for those 22 million people cannot possibly afford that. So they are bankrupt now…Nice try, but not even close to true. The majority of the 22 million would be people who no longer qualify for Medicad and can't afford private insurance... Also, older people who don't yet qualify for Medicare who's premiums will go up as a result of young people dropping out. On top of all this, people are still going to get sick and people are still going to get in accidents. They will still go to the hospital and need care. The more uninsured that do this the higher the medical care costs are going to get, which will in turn raise costs all around. Yes a shit storm is coming.Don't confuse the issue!
The 22 million are people that bought insurance because they didn't want to pay a penalty!
NOT because they needed insurance, but because they were going to be penalized!
primarily because the penalty for not having insurance would be eliminated.
If you honestly think that getting millions of people off insurance is going to be a good thing because it saves a few bucks, then I suggest you reevaluate your thinking...
Well you guys have been trying to polish a turd for years now… It's called Obama care.Hilarious watching you fools try to polish a turd.
Trumpcare is dead on arrival and you now own it.
Most pay for themselves, hopefully we can get more people in the market and bring prices down. The ones that can pay are taken care of throw medicaid. Thinking that it's a good thing to take millions out of the health insurance market makes no senseWho pays for those 22 million people to get care? The people that are paying for those 22 million people cannot possibly afford that. So they are bankrupt now…Nice try, but not even close to true. The majority of the 22 million would be people who no longer qualify for Medicad and can't afford private insurance... Also, older people who don't yet qualify for Medicare who's premiums will go up as a result of young people dropping out. On top of all this, people are still going to get sick and people are still going to get in accidents. They will still go to the hospital and need care. The more uninsured that do this the higher the medical care costs are going to get, which will in turn raise costs all around. Yes a shit storm is coming.Don't confuse the issue!
The 22 million are people that bought insurance because they didn't want to pay a penalty!
NOT because they needed insurance, but because they were going to be penalized!
primarily because the penalty for not having insurance would be eliminated.
If you honestly think that getting millions of people off insurance is going to be a good thing because it saves a few bucks, then I suggest you reevaluate your thinking...
What's really stupid is forcing millions into socialized medicine thinking that's a good thing…Most pay for themselves, hopefully we can get more people in the market and bring prices down. The ones that can pay are taken care of throw medicaid. Thinking that it's a good thing to take millions out of the health insurance market makes no senseWho pays for those 22 million people to get care? The people that are paying for those 22 million people cannot possibly afford that. So they are bankrupt now…Nice try, but not even close to true. The majority of the 22 million would be people who no longer qualify for Medicad and can't afford private insurance... Also, older people who don't yet qualify for Medicare who's premiums will go up as a result of young people dropping out. On top of all this, people are still going to get sick and people are still going to get in accidents. They will still go to the hospital and need care. The more uninsured that do this the higher the medical care costs are going to get, which will in turn raise costs all around. Yes a shit storm is coming.Don't confuse the issue!
The 22 million are people that bought insurance because they didn't want to pay a penalty!
NOT because they needed insurance, but because they were going to be penalized!
primarily because the penalty for not having insurance would be eliminated.
If you honestly think that getting millions of people off insurance is going to be a good thing because it saves a few bucks, then I suggest you reevaluate your thinking...
Why is it bad?What's really stupid is forcing millions into socialized medicine thinking that's a good thing…Most pay for themselves, hopefully we can get more people in the market and bring prices down. The ones that can pay are taken care of throw medicaid. Thinking that it's a good thing to take millions out of the health insurance market makes no senseWho pays for those 22 million people to get care? The people that are paying for those 22 million people cannot possibly afford that. So they are bankrupt now…Nice try, but not even close to true. The majority of the 22 million would be people who no longer qualify for Medicad and can't afford private insurance... Also, older people who don't yet qualify for Medicare who's premiums will go up as a result of young people dropping out. On top of all this, people are still going to get sick and people are still going to get in accidents. They will still go to the hospital and need care. The more uninsured that do this the higher the medical care costs are going to get, which will in turn raise costs all around. Yes a shit storm is coming.Don't confuse the issue!
The 22 million are people that bought insurance because they didn't want to pay a penalty!
NOT because they needed insurance, but because they were going to be penalized!
primarily because the penalty for not having insurance would be eliminated.
If you honestly think that getting millions of people off insurance is going to be a good thing because it saves a few bucks, then I suggest you reevaluate your thinking...
Because millions want nothing to do with it and will never use it. It's a freedom thing you may not understandWhy is it bad?What's really stupid is forcing millions into socialized medicine thinking that's a good thing…Most pay for themselves, hopefully we can get more people in the market and bring prices down. The ones that can pay are taken care of throw medicaid. Thinking that it's a good thing to take millions out of the health insurance market makes no senseWho pays for those 22 million people to get care? The people that are paying for those 22 million people cannot possibly afford that. So they are bankrupt now…Nice try, but not even close to true. The majority of the 22 million would be people who no longer qualify for Medicad and can't afford private insurance... Also, older people who don't yet qualify for Medicare who's premiums will go up as a result of young people dropping out. On top of all this, people are still going to get sick and people are still going to get in accidents. They will still go to the hospital and need care. The more uninsured that do this the higher the medical care costs are going to get, which will in turn raise costs all around. Yes a shit storm is coming.Don't confuse the issue!
The 22 million are people that bought insurance because they didn't want to pay a penalty!
NOT because they needed insurance, but because they were going to be penalized!
primarily because the penalty for not having insurance would be eliminated.
If you honestly think that getting millions of people off insurance is going to be a good thing because it saves a few bucks, then I suggest you reevaluate your thinking...
Don't confuse the issue!
The 22 million are people that bought insurance because they didn't want to pay a penalty!
NOT because they needed insurance, but because they were going to be penalized!
primarily because the penalty for not having insurance would be eliminated.
Who are those affected?
People on SNAP and TANF and the like, for the most part, no doubt.
If true, that will impact a maximum of 6% of the White population in the US...
If true, that will impact a maximum of 28% of the Black population in the US...
The Pubs have long-since done this math...
Other than the occasional "local" mathematical aberration... it doesn't really impact the Pubs at the polls all that much, from the 30,000-foot nationwide perspective...
NO you are wrong!
"primarily because the penalty for not having insurance would be eliminated."
Do you understand?
These are people that bought insurance ONLY because they didn't want to pay the penalty for not having it!
So naturally they go ahead pay the insurance premium so they WON"T be tAXED for NOT having insurance!
What a screwed up system! Again 18 million people under 34 making over $50,000 didn't use their employers' health plan! Why because they saw no need to throw money out when they didn't have any bad experiences.
Remember Employer plans don't have "pre-existing conditions" clauses so any time any time that 18 million under 34 could sign up at the first sign of illness! Until then they didn't need their employers plan.
18 million were under 34 years, make over $50,000 and didn't WANT or need employers' health programs! Over half of them (9.7 million) in households with incomes that exceed $75,000 annually. -
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
Sorry! That part is not true.
Employees can only sign up during open enrollment periods unless they have a qualifying event. Getting sick is not one of them. Also, pre-existing conditions apply if you have not had continuous coverage.
I worked as benefits instructor for AT&T and that is the way every benefit I have had since works.
And THAT was at AT&T. Can you say with 100% certainty that is the way it is for ALL employer health plans?
I certainly wouldn't!
Most pay for themselves, hopefully we can get more people in the market and bring prices down. The ones that can pay are taken care of throw medicaid. Thinking that it's a good thing to take millions out of the health insurance market makes no senseWho pays for those 22 million people to get care? The people that are paying for those 22 million people cannot possibly afford that. So they are bankrupt now…Nice try, but not even close to true. The majority of the 22 million would be people who no longer qualify for Medicad and can't afford private insurance... Also, older people who don't yet qualify for Medicare who's premiums will go up as a result of young people dropping out. On top of all this, people are still going to get sick and people are still going to get in accidents. They will still go to the hospital and need care. The more uninsured that do this the higher the medical care costs are going to get, which will in turn raise costs all around. Yes a shit storm is coming.Don't confuse the issue!
The 22 million are people that bought insurance because they didn't want to pay a penalty!
NOT because they needed insurance, but because they were going to be penalized!
primarily because the penalty for not having insurance would be eliminated.
If you honestly think that getting millions of people off insurance is going to be a good thing because it saves a few bucks, then I suggest you reevaluate your thinking...
The fact is that low income people will lose their coverage. How do we know this? The Senate plan will get rid of all of the taxes yet will reduce the deficit. The only way that can happen is if people are forced out of their coverage and cannot use the subsidies. Also the increase after 2018 in the number of people who lose insurance proves that this is not people who didn't want insurance.
Who are those affected?
People on SNAP and TANF and the like, for the most part, no doubt.
If true, that will impact a maximum of 6% of the White population in the US...
If true, that will impact a maximum of 28% of the Black population in the US...
The Pubs have long-since done this math...
Other than the occasional "local" mathematical aberration... it doesn't really impact the Pubs at the polls all that much, from the 30,000-foot nationwide perspective...
NO you are wrong!
"primarily because the penalty for not having insurance would be eliminated."
Do you understand?
These are people that bought insurance ONLY because they didn't want to pay the penalty for not having it!
So naturally they go ahead pay the insurance premium so they WON"T be tAXED for NOT having insurance!
What a screwed up system! Again 18 million people under 34 making over $50,000 didn't use their employers' health plan! Why because they saw no need to throw money out when they didn't have any bad experiences.
Remember Employer plans don't have "pre-existing conditions" clauses so any time any time that 18 million under 34 could sign up at the first sign of illness! Until then they didn't need their employers plan.
18 million were under 34 years, make over $50,000 and didn't WANT or need employers' health programs! Over half of them (9.7 million) in households with incomes that exceed $75,000 annually. -
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
Sorry! That part is not true.
Employees can only sign up during open enrollment periods unless they have a qualifying event. Getting sick is not one of them. Also, pre-existing conditions apply if you have not had continuous coverage.
I worked as benefits instructor for AT&T and that is the way every benefit I have had since works.
And THAT was at AT&T. Can you say with 100% certainty that is the way it is for ALL employer health plans?
I certainly wouldn't!
Reading comprehension failure strikes again!
As far as pre-existing conditions, I said that is the way it has worked ever since. That includes 8 different employers for me and another dozen or so for my wife and children..
As to the open enrollment requirement, that is a federal law that has been in place for decades. You can't just get sick in March and sign up for benefits if your open enrollment is for the next calendar year the following December. Until then, you have no coverage. Obamacare was the same way.
The only exception to the requirement to enroll during the open enrollment period is that you have a qualifying event, such as having a child, getting married, someone dies, etc.
Not worried. The United States will have a national poll on this issue in November 2018.So the MSM/Democrats have been crying about 22 million will become UNINSURED!!
OH WOE!!! CBS/ABC/NBC all lead on the CBO findings "22 million will be UNINSURED!
ONLY Fox gave a fair assessment:"While 22 million will be uninsured the FEDERAL DEFICIT WOULD BE REDUCED BY $321 BILLION!!!!
DID THE MSM LEAD WITH THAT? OF COURSE NOT! BIASED NEWS PRESENTING ONLY
WHAT THEY PERCEIVED AS THE "BAD NEWS" 22 MILLION WILL BE UNINSURED!
The Congressional Budget Office and the staff of the Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) have completed an estimate of the direct spending and revenue effects of the Better Care Reconciliation Act of 2017, a CBO and JCT estimate that enacting this legislation would reduce the cumulative federal deficit over the 2017-2026 period by $321 billion. That amount is $202 billion more than the estimated net savings for the version of H.R. 1628 that was passed by the House of Representatives.
CBO and JCT estimate that, in 2018, 15 million more people would be uninsured under this legislation than under current law—primarily because the penalty for not having insurance would be eliminated.
The increase in the number of uninsured people relative to the number projected under current law would reach 19 million in 2020 and 22 million in 2026.
H.R. 1628, Better Care Reconciliation Act of 2017
"primarily because the penalty for not having insurance"
BUT WAIT! WHY WON'T THEY BE INSURED?
Because they WON"T BE PENALIZED for not having insurance!
REALLY!
They won't be penalized i.e. forced to buy something they may not NEED!!!!
Again folks THERE NEVER WERE 46 million people that were legal citizens, that KNEW about Medicaid qualifications and that WANTE health insurance! IT WAS A FABRICATION!!!
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