Kansas will swear in its 1st 2 LGBT lawmakers, will end discrimination against these kinds of folks!

[BasicHumanUnit]

How are they flourishing?
Just the other day on this board some conservative whined about churches all over the country closing because people aren't going.
Latest polls show that
1. most American have no problem with homosexual rights
2. more and more people are dismissing religion
3. the percent of non religious affiliated in the USA is growing
WHere is the flourishing?

I think you misinterpreted

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

What rights are they getting that they didn’t already have?

How old are you, son?

at one time gays were arrested and jailed.
beaten
killed
discriminated against

They may have gained acceptance 20 years ago and the persecution stopped (mostly) but they still didn't have the right to marry until recently.

So having gays elected in a conservative state is a good thing.

They can marry anything they want.
Legal marriage, however, is a privilege. You don’t have a right to other people’s money or other people’s children.

"You don’t have a right to other people’s money or other people’s children"

I have no idea what you are babbling on about

Who wants whos' money?
or children?

how do gays want YOUR money or YOUR children?

kindly explain this lunacy and please try to use actual facts and examples and NOT just emotional fears and irrational beliefs.

Legal marriage provides tax breaks. These breaks are compensated by the taxpayers. That’s my money subsiding homos in the name of their personal, irrelevant proclivity.
The point in the marriage tax benefits is too offset burdens of child rearing. Homos can’t proceate so no need for the subsidies.
Contrived homo ‘families’ involve the offspring of at least one individual not in the homo couple. This denies a human child the natural right to be raised by their actual parents and contributes to social demise rooted in unstructured families.
Legal homo marriage gives homo couples equal opportunity to the privilege of adoption which would lead to kid being raised devoid of a parent gender, contributing to social demise.

 

[anynameyouwish]

What rights are they getting that they didn’t already have?

How old are you, son?

at one time gays were arrested and jailed.
beaten
killed
discriminated against

They may have gained acceptance 20 years ago and the persecution stopped (mostly) but they still didn't have the right to marry until recently.

So having gays elected in a conservative state is a good thing.

They can marry anything they want.
Legal marriage, however, is a privilege. You don’t have a right to other people’s money or other people’s children.

"You don’t have a right to other people’s money or other people’s children"

I have no idea what you are babbling on about

Who wants whos' money?
or children?

how do gays want YOUR money or YOUR children?

kindly explain this lunacy and please try to use actual facts and examples and NOT just emotional fears and irrational beliefs.

Legal marriage provides tax breaks. These breaks are compensated by the taxpayers. That’s my money subsiding homos in the name of their personal, irrelevant proclivity.
The point in the marriage tax benefits is too offset burdens of child rearing. Homos can’t proceate so no need for the subsidies.
Contrived homo ‘families’ involve the offspring of at least one individual not in the homo couple. This denies a human child the natural right to be raised by their actual parents and contributes to social demise rooted in unstructured families.
Legal homo marriage gives homo couples equal opportunity to the privilege of adoption which would lead to kid being raised devoid of a parent gender, contributing to social demise.

"Legal marriage provides tax breaks. These breaks are compensated by the taxpayers. That’s my money subsiding homos in the name of their personal, irrelevant proclivity."



Homosexuals don't work?

Are you sure about that?

They don't pay taxes?

Are you certain?

So you are saying that you are a socialist?
You want money from gays and single people and people without children to pay for YOUR kids? Perhaps you should only have the number of kids you can afford?

Why should OTHER people pay for YOUR family?

You have NO RIGHT TO OTHER PEOPLES MONEY! (somebody just recently told me that. Do you think he was right?


conservative male makes 70 k per year
Has wife and 3 rotten kids
Gets tax breaks on his family

pays 20 k in taxes


Gay man makes 70K per year
isn't married
no kids
doesn't get tax breaks

pays $30k in taxes.


Get it?

You SHOUT "GAYS HAVE NO RIGHT TO MY MONEY!!!@!!!@!@!@#$@?bgl cvn4g82hilfg vb0qw23nxcvghj sfyc"

Then you DEMAND "I want THEIR MONEY FOR MYSELF!!!!!!!

This kinda makes you a bit of a selfish socialist conservative hypocrite.

 

[Sunni Man]

at one time gays were arrested and jailed.

Hopefully those days will return soon. ...

 

[harmonica]

What rights are they getting that they didn’t already have?

How old are you, son?

at one time gays were arrested and jailed.
beaten
killed
discriminated against

They may have gained acceptance 20 years ago and the persecution stopped (mostly) but they still didn't have the right to marry until recently.

So having gays elected in a conservative state is a good thing.

those were always against the law
lot's of people get harassed/discriminated against:
fat people
short people
dumb people
etc etc

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

What rights are they getting that they didn’t already have?

How old are you, son?

at one time gays were arrested and jailed.
beaten
killed
discriminated against

They may have gained acceptance 20 years ago and the persecution stopped (mostly) but they still didn't have the right to marry until recently.

So having gays elected in a conservative state is a good thing.

They can marry anything they want.
Legal marriage, however, is a privilege. You don’t have a right to other people’s money or other people’s children.

"You don’t have a right to other people’s money or other people’s children"

I have no idea what you are babbling on about

Who wants whos' money?
or children?

how do gays want YOUR money or YOUR children?

kindly explain this lunacy and please try to use actual facts and examples and NOT just emotional fears and irrational beliefs.

Legal marriage provides tax breaks. These breaks are compensated by the taxpayers. That’s my money subsiding homos in the name of their personal, irrelevant proclivity.
The point in the marriage tax benefits is too offset burdens of child rearing. Homos can’t proceate so no need for the subsidies.
Contrived homo ‘families’ involve the offspring of at least one individual not in the homo couple. This denies a human child the natural right to be raised by their actual parents and contributes to social demise rooted in unstructured families.
Legal homo marriage gives homo couples equal opportunity to the privilege of adoption which would lead to kid being raised devoid of a parent gender, contributing to social demise.

"Legal marriage provides tax breaks. These breaks are compensated by the taxpayers. That’s my money subsiding homos in the name of their personal, irrelevant proclivity."



Homosexuals don't work?

Are you sure about that?

They don't pay taxes?

Are you certain?

So you are saying that you are a socialist?
You want money from gays and single people and people without children to pay for YOUR kids? Perhaps you should only have the number of kids you can afford?

Why should OTHER people pay for YOUR family?

You have NO RIGHT TO OTHER PEOPLES MONEY! (somebody just recently told me that. Do you think he was right?


conservative male makes 70 k per year
Has wife and 3 rotten kids
Gets tax breaks on his family

pays 20 k in taxes


Gay man makes 70K per year
isn't married
no kids
doesn't get tax breaks

pays $30k in taxes.


Get it?

You SHOUT "GAYS HAVE NO RIGHT TO MY MONEY!!!@!!!@!@!@#$@?bgl cvn4g82hilfg vb0qw23nxcvghj sfyc"

Then you DEMAND "I want THEIR MONEY FOR MYSELF!!!!!!!

This kinda makes you a bit of a selfish socialist conservative hypocrite.

I made a reasoned and empirically based case and you can’t seem to get it. Once you figure it out and respond pointedly, I’ll respond appropriately.

 

[anynameyouwish]

How old are you, son?

at one time gays were arrested and jailed.
beaten
killed
discriminated against

They may have gained acceptance 20 years ago and the persecution stopped (mostly) but they still didn't have the right to marry until recently.

So having gays elected in a conservative state is a good thing.

They can marry anything they want.
Legal marriage, however, is a privilege. You don’t have a right to other people’s money or other people’s children.

"You don’t have a right to other people’s money or other people’s children"

I have no idea what you are babbling on about

Who wants whos' money?
or children?

how do gays want YOUR money or YOUR children?

kindly explain this lunacy and please try to use actual facts and examples and NOT just emotional fears and irrational beliefs.

Legal marriage provides tax breaks. These breaks are compensated by the taxpayers. That’s my money subsiding homos in the name of their personal, irrelevant proclivity.
The point in the marriage tax benefits is too offset burdens of child rearing. Homos can’t proceate so no need for the subsidies.
Contrived homo ‘families’ involve the offspring of at least one individual not in the homo couple. This denies a human child the natural right to be raised by their actual parents and contributes to social demise rooted in unstructured families.
Legal homo marriage gives homo couples equal opportunity to the privilege of adoption which would lead to kid being raised devoid of a parent gender, contributing to social demise.

"Legal marriage provides tax breaks. These breaks are compensated by the taxpayers. That’s my money subsiding homos in the name of their personal, irrelevant proclivity."



Homosexuals don't work?

Are you sure about that?

They don't pay taxes?

Are you certain?

So you are saying that you are a socialist?
You want money from gays and single people and people without children to pay for YOUR kids? Perhaps you should only have the number of kids you can afford?

Why should OTHER people pay for YOUR family?

You have NO RIGHT TO OTHER PEOPLES MONEY! (somebody just recently told me that. Do you think he was right?


conservative male makes 70 k per year
Has wife and 3 rotten kids
Gets tax breaks on his family

pays 20 k in taxes


Gay man makes 70K per year
isn't married
no kids
doesn't get tax breaks

pays $30k in taxes.


Get it?

You SHOUT "GAYS HAVE NO RIGHT TO MY MONEY!!!@!!!@!@!@#$@?bgl cvn4g82hilfg vb0qw23nxcvghj sfyc"

Then you DEMAND "I want THEIR MONEY FOR MYSELF!!!!!!!

This kinda makes you a bit of a selfish socialist conservative hypocrite.

I made a reasoned and empirically based case and you can’t seem to get it. Once you figure it out and respond pointedly, I’ll respond appropriately.

I countered with logic and rational though and it pissed you off. You DEMAND to be righth no matter how wrong you are.

YOU SAID "gays are not entitled to my money":

Then YOU SAID "i want the money of gays (in taxes)"

If you don't own the hypocrisy then getting huffy and stomping off doesn't make you the winner. It makes you the person who wasn't decent enough to debate rationally.


I have NO DOUBT which person you are!

 

[anynameyouwish]

at one time gays were arrested and jailed.

Hopefully those days will return soon. ...

Could we get a few conservatives to reply to this comment that this post doesn't exist because NO CONSERVATIVE would ever want to jail gays?
please?

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

They can marry anything they want.
Legal marriage, however, is a privilege. You don’t have a right to other people’s money or other people’s children.

"You don’t have a right to other people’s money or other people’s children"

I have no idea what you are babbling on about

Who wants whos' money?
or children?

how do gays want YOUR money or YOUR children?

kindly explain this lunacy and please try to use actual facts and examples and NOT just emotional fears and irrational beliefs.

Legal marriage provides tax breaks. These breaks are compensated by the taxpayers. That’s my money subsiding homos in the name of their personal, irrelevant proclivity.
The point in the marriage tax benefits is too offset burdens of child rearing. Homos can’t proceate so no need for the subsidies.
Contrived homo ‘families’ involve the offspring of at least one individual not in the homo couple. This denies a human child the natural right to be raised by their actual parents and contributes to social demise rooted in unstructured families.
Legal homo marriage gives homo couples equal opportunity to the privilege of adoption which would lead to kid being raised devoid of a parent gender, contributing to social demise.

"Legal marriage provides tax breaks. These breaks are compensated by the taxpayers. That’s my money subsiding homos in the name of their personal, irrelevant proclivity."



Homosexuals don't work?

Are you sure about that?

They don't pay taxes?

Are you certain?

So you are saying that you are a socialist?
You want money from gays and single people and people without children to pay for YOUR kids? Perhaps you should only have the number of kids you can afford?

Why should OTHER people pay for YOUR family?

You have NO RIGHT TO OTHER PEOPLES MONEY! (somebody just recently told me that. Do you think he was right?


conservative male makes 70 k per year
Has wife and 3 rotten kids
Gets tax breaks on his family

pays 20 k in taxes


Gay man makes 70K per year
isn't married
no kids
doesn't get tax breaks

pays $30k in taxes.


Get it?

You SHOUT "GAYS HAVE NO RIGHT TO MY MONEY!!!@!!!@!@!@#$@?bgl cvn4g82hilfg vb0qw23nxcvghj sfyc"

Then you DEMAND "I want THEIR MONEY FOR MYSELF!!!!!!!

This kinda makes you a bit of a selfish socialist conservative hypocrite.

I made a reasoned and empirically based case and you can’t seem to get it. Once you figure it out and respond pointedly, I’ll respond appropriately.

I countered with logic and rational though and it pissed you off. You DEMAND to be righth no matter how wrong you are.

YOU SAID "gays are not entitled to my money":

Then YOU SAID "i want the money of gays (in taxes)"

If you don't own the hypocrisy then getting huffy and stomping off doesn't make you the winner. It makes you the person who wasn't decent enough to debate rationally.


I have NO DOUBT which person you are!

You haven’t addressed my points.

 

[Silhouette]

i'm proud to be an American, where at least i know i'm free...to be gay!

Kansas sees LGBT milestones, yet big change may come slowly

You are confusing sexual behavior as an identity or social class. Quit trying to use your perversions to get special privileges.

 

[Claudette]

As long as they can do the job no one should give a shit about their life style.

I sure don't.

 

[theHawk]

i'm proud to be an American, where at least i know i'm free...to be gay!

Kansas sees LGBT milestones, yet big change may come slowly

Exactly what “discrimination” was going on?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

What gays want is an end to gender based intimate partner selection. They have not figured out how to do this. They think that social pressure will eventually work.

 

[Skylar]

Legal marriage provides tax breaks. These breaks are compensated by the taxpayers. That’s my money subsiding homos in the name of their personal, irrelevant proclivity.
The point in the marriage tax benefits is too offset burdens of child rearing. Homos can’t proceate so no need for the subsidies.
Contrived homo ‘families’ involve the offspring of at least one individual not in the homo couple. This denies a human child the natural right to be raised by their actual parents and contributes to social demise rooted in unstructured families.
Legal homo marriage gives homo couples equal opportunity to the privilege of adoption which would lead to kid being raised devoid of a parent gender, contributing to social demise.

Marriage is not, nor can be, predicated on procreation or the willingness to have kids. Says who?

Says the Supreme Court. The body granted the adjudicate issues that fall under the constitution.

Nor is anyone required to have kids or be able to have them in order to get married. Not anyone in any state. In fact, there are marriages that are predicated on the participants NEVER have children. Nixing your entire argument in practice as well as in the law.

Single parenthood being legal toasts your entire 'child's natural right to be raised by their 'actual' parents' nonsense. As does any artificial insemination or adoption. Eliminating it from any rational review of the issue.

Your 'social demise' silliness is baseless nonsense backed by nothing. And thus irrelevant to any rational review of the same sex marriage.

 

[Skylar]

What gays want is an end to gender based intimate partner selection. They have not figured out how to do this. They think that social pressure will eventually work.

I know many gay folks. I've never heard any of them insist that what they want is the end to gender based intimate partner selection.

Are you sure you're not just talking for yourself, *pretending* you speak for gays?

 

[Silhouette]

I know many gay folks. I've never heard any of them insist that what they want is the end to gender based intimate partner selection.

Are you sure you're not just talking for yourself, *pretending* you speak for gays?

How many necrophilia folk do you know? Bulimia folk? OCD folk? Polygamy folk? Cleptomania folk? Hoarder folk?

Where are their special rights & privileges?

 

[Skylar]

I know many gay folks. I've never heard any of them insist that what they want is the end to gender based intimate partner selection.

Are you sure you're not just talking for yourself, *pretending* you speak for gays?

How many necrophilia folk do you know? Bulimia folk? OCD folk? Polygamy folk? Cleptomania folk? Hoarder folk?

Where are their special rights & privileges?

What do Bulimics or Kleptomanicas have to do with the silly claim that gays want 'the end to gender based intimate partner selection'?

You're raising 'whataboutry' to a bit of an art form, Sil.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Legal marriage provides tax breaks. These breaks are compensated by the taxpayers. That’s my money subsiding homos in the name of their personal, irrelevant proclivity.
The point in the marriage tax benefits is too offset burdens of child rearing. Homos can’t proceate so no need for the subsidies.
Contrived homo ‘families’ involve the offspring of at least one individual not in the homo couple. This denies a human child the natural right to be raised by their actual parents and contributes to social demise rooted in unstructured families.
Legal homo marriage gives homo couples equal opportunity to the privilege of adoption which would lead to kid being raised devoid of a parent gender, contributing to social demise.

Marriage is not, nor can be, predicated on procreation or the willingness to have kids. Says who?

Says the Supreme Court. The body granted the adjudicate issues that fall under the constitution.

Nor is anyone required to have kids or be able to have them in order to get married. Not anyone in any state. In fact, there are marriages that are predicated on the participants NEVER have children. Nixing your entire argument in practice as well as in the law.

Single parenthood being legal toasts your entire 'child's natural right to be raised by their 'actual' parents' nonsense. As does any artificial insemination or adoption. Eliminating it from any rational review of the issue.

Your 'social demise' silliness is baseless nonsense backed by nothing. And thus irrelevant to any rational review of the same sex marriage.

Legal marriage was created to protect children and contribute to society. Unfortunately, its creators didn’t think they’d have to explain that and didn’t provide that stipulation. Like the guy who created latex gloves didn’t think he’d have to explain that they aren’t synthetic cow udders.
Unstructured families are at the root of social demise, especially among blacks where its prevalence is 75%. The data is empirical.